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Post by jezzascfc on Jul 22, 2016 14:56:20 GMT
There's seems some strange notion on here that we can force players to sign for us - they have their own free will, they are not indentured servants!
All we can do is bid an amount that a selling club accepts and then try to persuade a player to come to Stoke based on the wages offered, the potential the club has for progress, its facilities, ownership structure and support, and the relationship he may have with the manager. It is this last one that may be our trump card - Hughes will connect far better with him than Guidolin, and may help sway the deal our way.
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Post by alster on Jul 22, 2016 14:58:15 GMT
I'm originally from Longton so I know exactly what you mean. Me too! And look how far away I have escaped to! LOL It's good being close enough to get to all the home games but wouldn't choose to live and bring kids up there. |
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Post by Nigel Farage on Jul 22, 2016 14:59:11 GMT
Likewise, he's played for Swansea before and maybe he'd rather try something different. If his perception is that we're a better club with better prospects then he may opt to play for us. Having played for them before he'll know what they're about and may not see it as a challenge. If he see's that we're more ambitious that may tempt him.
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Post by homer32 on Jul 22, 2016 15:02:15 GMT
A Welsh wife, one child who hasn't started school. Stoke over Swansea not an easy sell for the family. In one very important aspect we're far more Welsh than them though. He may feel that the chairman is buying him for Swansea, and the manager at Stoke. Might be crucial. Opt for Stoke and he wouldn't have to move his wife, kid, goats, shetland ponies, dogs and chickens from the family home. (Yes, I've done a little research).   Thanks for that I think his missus will have a big say and he will go to Swansea. Hope I'm wrong as he would be a good signing but hey ho move on. |
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Post by alster on Jul 22, 2016 15:03:11 GMT
There's seems some strange notion on here that we can force players to sign for us - they have their own free will, they are not indentured servants! All we can do is bid an amount that a selling club accepts and then try to persuade a player to come to Stoke based on the wages offered, the potential the club has for progress, its facilities, ownership structure and support, and the relationship he may have with the manager. It is this last one that may be our trump card - Hughes will connect far better with him than Guidolin, and may help sway the deal our way. If Swans offer matches ours I think we can forget it. I'm not even from there but I can see the attraction really nice area great for kids and families. |
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 22, 2016 15:14:02 GMT
There's seems some strange notion on here that we can force players to sign for us - they have their own free will, they are not indentured servants! All we can do is bid an amount that a selling club accepts and then try to persuade a player to come to Stoke based on the wages offered, the potential the club has for progress, its facilities, ownership structure and support, and the relationship he may have with the manager. It is this last one that may be our trump card - Hughes will connect far better with him than Guidolin, and may help sway the deal our way. If Swans offer matches ours I think we can forget it. I'm not even from there but I can see the attraction really nice area great for kids and families. So is cheshire in the footballers belt where he probably live now and wont have to move from if he signed for us? |
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Post by werrington on Jul 22, 2016 15:17:04 GMT
If Swans offer matches ours I think we can forget it. I'm not even from there but I can see the attraction really nice area great for kids and families. So is cheshire in the footballers belt where he probably live now and wont have to move from if he signed for us? The majority of Liverpool/Everton players live in Formby/Southport and the Wirrall areas Not saying he does also ...I'm just stating a fact |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jul 22, 2016 15:20:00 GMT
Would he have to move if he came here ? Charlie lives in Blackpool doesn't he ? Mersey area isn't too far SJW lives on the Wirral
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 22, 2016 15:20:03 GMT
So is cheshire in the footballers belt where he probably live now and wont have to move from if he signed for us? The majority of Liverpool/Everton players live in Formby/Southport and the Wirrall areas Not saying he does also ...I'm just stating a fact He lives in Chester. |
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Post by themistocles on Jul 22, 2016 15:26:20 GMT
There's seems some strange notion on here that we can force players to sign for us - they have their own free will, they are not indentured servants! All we can do is bid an amount that a selling club accepts and then try to persuade a player to come to Stoke based on the wages offered, the potential the club has for progress, its facilities, ownership structure and support, and the relationship he may have with the manager. It is this last one that may be our trump card - Hughes will connect far better with him than Guidolin, and may help sway the deal our way. You can't force players to join, of course you can't, but a big part of the transfer teams job is to sell the club in different ways so the player wants to join our club first and foremost... this hasn't been achieved this window with a number of targets. |
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Post by Beardy200 on Jul 22, 2016 15:28:41 GMT
There's seems some strange notion on here that we can force players to sign for us - they have their own free will, they are not indentured servants! All we can do is bid an amount that a selling club accepts and then try to persuade a player to come to Stoke based on the wages offered, the potential the club has for progress, its facilities, ownership structure and support, and the relationship he may have with the manager. It is this last one that may be our trump card - Hughes will connect far better with him than Guidolin, and may help sway the deal our way. You can't force players to join, of course you can't, but a big part of the transfer teams job is to sell the club in different ways so the player wants to join our club first and foremost... this hasn't been achieved this window with a number of targets. Yet |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 22, 2016 15:42:38 GMT
There's seems some strange notion on here that we can force players to sign for us - they have their own free will, they are not indentured servants! All we can do is bid an amount that a selling club accepts and then try to persuade a player to come to Stoke based on the wages offered, the potential the club has for progress, its facilities, ownership structure and support, and the relationship he may have with the manager. It is this last one that may be our trump card - Hughes will connect far better with him than Guidolin, and may help sway the deal our way. You can't force players to join, of course you can't, but a big part of the transfer teams job is to sell the club in different ways so the player wants to join our club first and foremost... this hasn't been achieved this window with a number of targets. There's over a month of the window left. Targets we thought we'd lost out on this time last year were Stoke players by 1st September. |
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Post by superheroantonius on Jul 22, 2016 15:45:11 GMT
The gower peninsula has the most beautiful coastline in the British Isles rivalled only by Cornwall.
I would be amazed if he turned down the chance to live there in a luxury beach front property with his young family
I doubt he's coming to Stoke but I don't blame MH for giving it a go.
Never say never but its unlikely.
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Post by stokie1130 on Jul 22, 2016 15:47:32 GMT
I really don't see in any way how it's stokes fault if Swansea do bid (as so far they have not and it's just a rumour) and he decides to go there. All the transfer team can do is bid for a player and then it's up to thw player and his agent to decide whether to accept the offer from us, or any other club that bids, I'm as frustrated as any other, but there's not a lot we can do about it, I'll he happy if he comes and also sado, so will have to see, as it stands there's been on official approach from Swansea and we have had a bit accepted so as I've just said, as it stands we are in the driving seat so let's all just chill out, grab a nice cold one and enjoy the weekend and the weather, all will come good
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jul 22, 2016 15:53:21 GMT
The Swansea link is irrelevant.
If we offer him a handsome enough pay packet he's coming here, end of.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 15:56:16 GMT
I really don't see in any way how it's stokes fault if Swansea do bid (as so far they have not and it's just a rumour) and he decides to go there. All the transfer team can do is bid for a player and then it's up to thw player and his agent to decide whether to accept the offer from us, or any other club that bids, I'm as frustrated as any other, but there's not a lot we can do about it, I'll he happy if he comes and also sado, so will have to see, as it stands there's been on official approach from Swansea and we have had a bit accepted so as I've just said, as it stands we are in the driving seat so let's all just chill out, grab a nice cold one and enjoy the weekend and the weather, all will come good This. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 16:00:02 GMT
I really don't see in any way how it's stokes fault if Swansea do bid (as so far they have not and it's just a rumour) and he decides to go there. All the transfer team can do is bid for a player and then it's up to thw player and his agent to decide whether to accept the offer from us, or any other club that bids, I'm as frustrated as any other, but there's not a lot we can do about it, I'll he happy if he comes and also sado, so will have to see, as it stands there's been on official approach from Swansea and we have had a bit accepted so as I've just said, as it stands we are in the driving seat so let's all just chill out, grab a nice cold one and enjoy the weekend and the weather, all will come good This. Glad you didn't put ......"well said" as I'm still trying to decipher his post  I think I agree with him tho |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 22, 2016 16:15:25 GMT
John Percy tweet - nothing new, but....
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 22, 2016 16:23:50 GMT
The majority of Liverpool/Everton players live in Formby/Southport and the Wirrall areas Not saying he does also ...I'm just stating a fact He lives in Chester. Winner fact ? 😉👍 |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 22, 2016 16:24:24 GMT
I find it odd that we have a recruitment department (a whole fucking department!) which is in some way absented from having 'selling the club' and getting deals done as part of its remit!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 16:25:22 GMT
He will go Swansea
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Post by burge2u on Jul 22, 2016 16:26:10 GMT
Would he have to move if he came here ? Charlie lives in Blackpool doesn't he ? Mersey area isn't too far SJW lives on the Wirral Robert Huth used to cycle from Alderley Edge to Clayton Wood and then do training ! |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jul 22, 2016 16:28:09 GMT
He's really not what we need in midfield. Hes still just a sideways passer and we have plenty of those already.
Im glad if he goes to Swansea
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 22, 2016 16:31:08 GMT
I find it odd that we have a recruitment department (a whole fucking department!) which is in some way absented from having 'selling the club' and getting deals done as part of its remit! Come on mate. This is a straw man argument in this case and you know it. |
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Post by thevoid on Jul 22, 2016 16:34:14 GMT
I've always been intrigued by the term 'midfield destroyer'.
What's he intending to 'destroy'.
It's football, not a cocaine deal.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 22, 2016 16:37:14 GMT
But we can offer him more money. I don't care what anyone says we're a much more attractive option than Swans. If Wilko had the choice of moving to Stoke or say Southampton, who would he pick? There'd be more chance of Soton picking 'Play Up Pompey' as their club anthem than wanting Wilko. |
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Post by thevoid on Jul 22, 2016 16:38:03 GMT
We can't force him to sign Nath. The self styled best recruitment team in the business can surely? Two for one at Dominos with a free side should nail it. |
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Post by djralphy2k9 on Jul 22, 2016 16:41:28 GMT
If Allen ends up at Swansea, will we go back in for Ki?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 16:47:14 GMT
What....a player wants to get back from holiday and consider his options instead of signing for Stoke within a day of having a fee accepted??? What a wanker
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 16:51:02 GMT
If Allen ends up at Swansea, will we go back in for Ki? I fear you're right |
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