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Post by iamcliveclarke on Jul 21, 2016 16:23:51 GMT
Well Wijnaldum wants the move to Liverpool. Allen prefers Swansea. Not much we can do about that. It's not just him though, either we're incompetent or we're just unlucky, bids for Berahino and Allen have been placed, both are waiting for circumstances out of our control to decide if they come here, it seems like other teams get deals done quickly and we're not able to I don't think other team get things done any quicker, it's just that we know more about the Stoke targets as soon as there's a rumor. Just look at the Pogba saga |
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Post by StokieNath on Jul 21, 2016 16:24:30 GMT
Just to make this thread a little more interesting.
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 21, 2016 16:26:00 GMT
If we were any good at transfers we'd have found out where Allen was holidaying and Scholes would be there, emerging from the sea Ursula Andress-like, contract in hand, or donning a cunning disguise and interrupting a romantic evening meal with a cheery "rose for the lady please sign here?"
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 21, 2016 16:33:41 GMT
I hope we don't fuck this up lads. I hate Swansea enough as it is.Why? What have they done to you? |
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Post by liamo on Jul 21, 2016 16:35:36 GMT
We've bid what they want for Berahino, we're now just letting them dictate how it all plays out, every day he spends in Holland is a day he could be settling in here
We've had a bid accepted for Joe Allen and now we're waiting to see if Swansea want him and we'll happily be sloppy seconds if they don't
I know that's how it is sometimes, i just wish we'd toughen up a bit
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Post by miggo on Jul 21, 2016 16:39:14 GMT
We've bid what they want for Berahino, we're now just letting them dictate how it all plays out, every day he spends in Holland is a day he could be settling in here We've had a bid accepted for Joe Allen and now we're waiting to see if Swansea want him and we'll happily be sloppy seconds if they don't I know that's how it is sometimes, i just wish we'd toughen up a bit How do we do that you've admitted we can't do anything then suggested we toughen up, what are we supposed to do give them a 24 hr deadline and move on ? Football doesn't work that way. |
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Post by nutterpotter on Jul 21, 2016 16:41:31 GMT
We've bid what they want for Berahino, we're now just letting them dictate how it all plays out, every day he spends in Holland is a day he could be settling in here We've had a bid accepted for Joe Allen and now we're waiting to see if Swansea want him and we'll happily be sloppy seconds if they don't I know that's how it is sometimes, i just wish we'd toughen up a bit Well go on then. What can we do to speed it up |
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Post by liamo on Jul 21, 2016 16:42:55 GMT
We've bid what they want for Berahino, we're now just letting them dictate how it all plays out, every day he spends in Holland is a day he could be settling in here We've had a bid accepted for Joe Allen and now we're waiting to see if Swansea want him and we'll happily be sloppy seconds if they don't I know that's how it is sometimes, i just wish we'd toughen up a bit How do we do that you've admitted we can't do anything then suggested we toughen up, what are we supposed to do give them a 24 hr deadline and move on ? Football doesn't work that way. It appears to everywhere else, other teams are signing players while we're waiting for holidays to finish for a player to decide if he wants to come here instead of his hometown team |
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Post by liamo on Jul 21, 2016 16:45:21 GMT
We've bid what they want for Berahino, we're now just letting them dictate how it all plays out, every day he spends in Holland is a day he could be settling in here We've had a bid accepted for Joe Allen and now we're waiting to see if Swansea want him and we'll happily be sloppy seconds if they don't I know that's how it is sometimes, i just wish we'd toughen up a bit Well go on then. What can we do to speed it up I'm not in any position to know what goes down behind the scenes, it's not my job to get things done, all i can do is compare to other teams, other teams which need fewer reinforcements than we do are signing players while we twiddle our thumbs |
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Post by StokieNath on Jul 21, 2016 16:45:51 GMT
I hope we don't fuck this up lads. I hate Swansea enough as it is.Why? What have they done to you? I take it you've never met a Swansea fan then? |
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Post by captainmainwaring on Jul 21, 2016 16:46:32 GMT
We've bid what they want for Berahino, we're now just letting them dictate how it all plays out, every day he spends in Holland is a day he could be settling in here We've had a bid accepted for Joe Allen and now we're waiting to see if Swansea want him and we'll happily be sloppy seconds if they don't I know that's how it is sometimes, i just wish we'd toughen up a bit you've got no idea what's going on at the moment so you make things up. |
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Post by miggo on Jul 21, 2016 16:47:08 GMT
How do we do that you've admitted we can't do anything then suggested we toughen up, what are we supposed to do give them a 24 hr deadline and move on ? Football doesn't work that way. It appears to everywhere else, other teams are signing players while we're waiting for holidays to finish for a player to decide if he wants to come here instead of his hometown team No we're not west brom are playing hard ball and Allen is on holiday. Who do you want someone who was a top player in the euro's and deserves his break or a player who get relegated with Newcastle at twice the price. This site exhausts me at times. |
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 21, 2016 16:47:35 GMT
How do we do that you've admitted we can't do anything then suggested we toughen up, what are we supposed to do give them a 24 hr deadline and move on ? Football doesn't work that way. It appears to everywhere else, other teams are signing players while we're waiting for holidays to finish for a player to decide if he wants to come here instead of his hometown team So we should sign players who don't have an hometown team just incase the said team come in and rival us? Out of the box. |
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Post by liamo on Jul 21, 2016 16:54:03 GMT
It appears to everywhere else, other teams are signing players while we're waiting for holidays to finish for a player to decide if he wants to come here instead of his hometown team No we're not west brom are playing hard ball and Allen is on holiday. Who do you want someone who was a top player in the euro's and deserves his break or a player who get relegated with Newcastle at twice the price. This site exhausts me at times. I'd love it if Allen comes here and i hope he does, i also hope we've got our fingers in many more pies in case we wait it out and he ends up at Swansea |
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Post by liamo on Jul 21, 2016 17:00:56 GMT
It appears to everywhere else, other teams are signing players while we're waiting for holidays to finish for a player to decide if he wants to come here instead of his hometown team So we should sign players who don't have an hometown team just invade the said team come in and rival us? Out of the box. It's a pretty unique situation, it's not like a vale supporting footballer would choose to go their over us if we were in for said player, Swansea are of equal standing though, if we end up offering similar amounts to both player and club he will surely go there It's speculation for the most part though, i just hope we've got plenty or irons in the fire |
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 21, 2016 17:03:52 GMT
So we should sign players who don't have an hometown team just invade the said team come in and rival us? Out of the box. It's a pretty unique situation, it's not like a vale supporting footballer would choose to go their over us if we were in for said player, Swansea are of equal standing though, if we end up offering similar amounts to both player and club he will surely go there It's speculation for the most part though, i just hope we've got plenty or irons in the fire That's it though isn't it? It's very unique, don't think we should just give up because Swansea might come in for him. But it's easy to slag the transfer team off on this place. |
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Post by lordb on Jul 21, 2016 17:06:12 GMT
Is there any suggestion Swansea will match or beat our offer?
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Post by animal on Jul 21, 2016 17:39:29 GMT
Looking at the pics of Hughes talking and shaking hands with Allen at the end of a Euro game. I cannot believe he didn't ask him about how he would feel about joining Stoke. Allen must have said something positive or we would never have gone public with the bid. We just haven't got a clue what's going on behind the scenes
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Post by charlesjefferson on Jul 21, 2016 18:14:29 GMT
Maybe Francesco Guidolin (I honestly had to google 'swansea city manager' as i didn't know) doesn't want Joe Allen anyway? So maybe it's a moot point, like a cows opinion, it's moo.
Or is Guidolin one of those new fangled managers who let's other folk at the club buy players while he practises his press conferences and his tango fallaway reverse slip pivot?
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 21, 2016 18:18:44 GMT
Maybe Francesco Guidolin (I honestly had to google 'swansea city manager' as i didn't know) doesn't want Joe Allen anyway? So maybe it's a moot point, like a cows opinion, it's moo. Or is Guidolin one of those new fangled managers who let's other folk at the club buy players while he practises his press conferences and his tango fallaway reverse slip pivot? I get the impression that Huw Jenkins is the main driver behind this. Guidolin may or may not have much of a say. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 21, 2016 18:21:05 GMT
All I've heard today regarding Swansea and new players is their one main target for the summer is a top class striker to replace Gomis. Maybe they don't wanna spend this kind of money on Allen + potentially more on a striker.
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Post by cymap on Jul 21, 2016 18:23:23 GMT
I think Swansea offered them £8m so don't think they will stump up. Just seen a little post on twitter suggesting Brenden Rogers maybe sniffing about.
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 21, 2016 18:25:22 GMT
I think Swansea offered them £8m so don't think they will stump up. Just seen a little post on twitter suggesting Brenden Rogers maybe sniffing about. I wouldn't see that as much of a career move. Celtic will be out of the Europa League by the time he gets back from holiday. |
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Post by cymap on Jul 21, 2016 18:28:08 GMT
I think Swansea offered them £8m so don't think they will stump up. Just seen a little post on twitter suggesting Brenden Rogers maybe sniffing about. I wouldn't see that as much of a career move. Celtic will be out of Europa League by the time he gets back from holiday. Yeah I thought similar myself. Celtic are a big club in a shit league tbh. I use the term big club loosely. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 21, 2016 18:29:18 GMT
Celtic haven't got a transfer budget of half of that money, let alone to spend on one player.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 18:43:19 GMT
I think Swansea offered them £8m so don't think they will stump up. Just seen a little post on twitter suggesting Brenden Rogers maybe sniffing about. Ha ha ha. Celtic couldnt pay more than 2 million for anyone right now! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 18:51:21 GMT
Plenty of time for Swansea to join in then Liverpool bid for Wijnaldum and he's had a medical the same day  It's like we've got a football manager filter on, "must be a long drawn out transfer saga, can not be completed before 50 pages on the oatcake are filled" How do you know when the bid went in mate? When did the negotiations between the two clubs start? At a quick glance, the Daily Mail (*spit*) had Liverpool and Tottenham linked with him well over two weeks ago, and Everton linked for well over 6 weeks... Just because we don't hear about these transfers until they hit the headlines in mainstream media doesn't mean that every other club doesn't have its own 'sagas' just like we seem to have every transfer window. For example the Leicester forum has threads on Michael Keane (started 18th June) and Wissam Ben Yedder (started 27th May), and their very own Joe Allen thread from a link made nearly a month ago (24th June). Every signing and negotiation will be different; for example the Bojan and Diouf transfers seemed to take forever for one reason or another, whilst Glen Johnson and Bardsley seemed to join within hours of a rumour gaining traction. There will be discussions with players and clubs that we're never aware of at the time (like the Ki bid for example) and others that stretch back over many months, a la Berahino; it is just scrutinzed to the nth degree on here because we are all Stokies just desperate for any news like the suckers we are and we never seem to learn to be patient despite it being like this every single transfer window |
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Post by mermaidsal on Jul 21, 2016 18:56:42 GMT
If we were any good at transfers we'd have found out where Allen was holidaying and Scholes would be there, emerging from the sea Ursula Andress-like, contract in hand, or donning a cunning disguise and interrupting a romantic evening meal with a cheery "rose for the lady please sign here?" And you know for sure he didn't??  |
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Post by mermaidsal on Jul 21, 2016 18:58:22 GMT
As for Joe Allen, bit overpriced at that money and I'm not sure how combative he really is, but on balance, good signing for me if it goes through.
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 21, 2016 19:06:39 GMT
If we were any good at transfers we'd have found out where Allen was holidaying and Scholes would be there, emerging from the sea Ursula Andress-like, contract in hand, or donning a cunning disguise and interrupting a romantic evening meal with a cheery "rose for the lady please sign here?" Have you heard scholes speak it would be more akin to wose than 🌹 |
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