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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 10:51:22 GMT
He'll probably go back to Swansea and the Transfer Rod will just home in on someone else.
No bother.
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Post by arnie3010 on Jul 21, 2016 10:52:04 GMT
13m looks a little bit much for a player whose contract runs out next year
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Post by Foster on Jul 21, 2016 10:54:51 GMT
13m looks a little bit much for a player whose contract runs out next year Seemingly these discount prices don't exist anymore. Too much competition. See Saido. |
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 21, 2016 10:55:42 GMT
I watch a lot of Liverpool games, he is not a defensive midfielder in any way. He's more of a replacement for Adam in my eyes. He's not very popular with Liverpool fans either. Not true though is it? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 10:56:19 GMT
"Allen is married to Lacey, and they have a son. Inspired by her involvement in animal welfare, he adopts hens to save them when they can no longer lay eggs" Wikipedia I don't know where his wife comes from, but perhaps we should find some hens for him to adopt! The farm next to me has 3,000 free range hens. Every 11 months, because their laying rate drops well below an economic level, they are shipped out to be made into Wrights Pies (other brands are available) but a few are reprieved and go to local farms to live out their lives, each hen producing an egg every few days. So, if needs be, I'm sure I can persuade Robert the farmer to offer Joe Allen as many hens as needed to clinch the deal.  And the odd squirrel I'll bet |
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Post by tizzer on Jul 21, 2016 10:56:50 GMT
13m looks a little bit much for a player whose contract runs out next year Seemingly these discount prices don't exist anymore. Too much competition. See Saido. 15 million for Ibe and 25 million Wijnaldum shows how inflated prices are. |
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Post by arnie3010 on Jul 21, 2016 11:01:34 GMT
Seemingly these discount prices don't exist anymore. Too much competition. See Saido. 15 million for Ibe and 25 million Wijnaldum shows how inflated prices are. There is no competition for Allen except Swansea |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 21, 2016 11:02:02 GMT
There were loads of Liverpool fans last night saying they'd be sorry to see him go. And loads saying he's very average. Lot of money for that. In the current climate it really isn't. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 21, 2016 11:02:49 GMT
I watch a lot of Liverpool games, he is not a defensive midfielder in any way. He's more of a replacement for Adam in my eyes. He's not very popular with Liverpool fans either. Not true though is it? Its a valid opinion. He's never struck me as a defensive midfielder and any Liverpool fan I spoke to never seemed overly impressed. I don't think he's a bad player, as he showed in the Euros, but I'm not sure he's what we need. Personally I'd still love to see a player to fill the Zonz shaped hole and I don't think Allen is it. |
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 21, 2016 11:05:09 GMT
Its a valid opinion. He's never struck me as a defensive midfielder and any Liverpool fan I spoke to never seemed overly impressed. I don't think he's a bad player, as he showed in the Euros, but I'm not sure he's what we need. Personally I'd still love to see a player to fill the Zonz shaped hole and I don't think Allen is it. I get it, you dont rate him. I'm on about the last bit though. Why just make stuff up when it's clearly not true? |
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 21, 2016 11:06:17 GMT
15 million for Ibe and 25 million Wijnaldum shows how inflated prices are. There is no competition for Allen except Swansea Going off what? Because If we're going off just what papers print there's seville as well. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 21, 2016 11:06:44 GMT
15 million for Ibe and 25 million Wijnaldum shows how inflated prices are. There is no competition for Allen except Swansea claimed at least 6 were chasing him including Seville and a Russian club. Still think in this new climate , £13m is reasonable for him. With this money sloshing around, contractual status could be a bit of an irrelevance to the buyers. If you want the player, suppose you've got to pay it. |
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jul 21, 2016 11:07:01 GMT
Its a valid opinion. He's never struck me as a defensive midfielder and any Liverpool fan I spoke to never seemed overly impressed. I don't think he's a bad player, as he showed in the Euros, but I'm not sure he's what we need. Personally I'd still love to see a player to fill the Zonz shaped hole and I don't think Allen is it. If N'Zonzi was still with us he couldn't operate in a midfield two with Imbula, therefore we need a new Whelan asap. Whether that's Allen remains to be seen. |
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Post by Foster on Jul 21, 2016 11:07:38 GMT
15 million for Ibe and 25 million Wijnaldum shows how inflated prices are. There is no competition for Allen except Swansea But still competition either way. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 21, 2016 11:07:47 GMT
Its a valid opinion. He's never struck me as a defensive midfielder and any Liverpool fan I spoke to never seemed overly impressed. I don't think he's a bad player, as he showed in the Euros, but I'm not sure he's what we need. Personally I'd still love to see a player to fill the Zonz shaped hole and I don't think Allen is it. I get it, you dont rate him. I'm on about the last bit though. Why just make stuff up when it's clearly not true? That he's not popular at Liverpool? I honestly don't know but I recall plenty of Liverpool supporters I know who slated him during Rodger's time. |
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jul 21, 2016 11:08:20 GMT
There is no competition for Allen except Swansea claimed at least 6 were chasing him including Seville and a Russian club. Still think in this new climate , £13m is reasonable for him. With this money sloshing around, contractual status could be a bit of an irrelevance to the buyers. If you want the player, suppose you've got to pay it. Not bloody Seville again. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 21, 2016 11:09:05 GMT
Its a valid opinion. He's never struck me as a defensive midfielder and any Liverpool fan I spoke to never seemed overly impressed. I don't think he's a bad player, as he showed in the Euros, but I'm not sure he's what we need. Personally I'd still love to see a player to fill the Zonz shaped hole and I don't think Allen is it. That's the bit I don't get. For Liverpool since January and in the Euros he was playing a very Zonzi-esque role. He was winning the ball, he was dynamic, he ran round like a blue arsed fly. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 21, 2016 11:09:13 GMT
Its a valid opinion. He's never struck me as a defensive midfielder and any Liverpool fan I spoke to never seemed overly impressed. I don't think he's a bad player, as he showed in the Euros, but I'm not sure he's what we need. Personally I'd still love to see a player to fill the Zonz shaped hole and I don't think Allen is it. If N'Zonzi was still with us he couldn't operate in a midfield two with Imbula, therefore we need a new Whelan asap. Whether that's Allen remains to be seen. Imbula and Zonz with a Whelan behind them. Why wouldn't that work? |
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jul 21, 2016 11:11:37 GMT
If N'Zonzi was still with us he couldn't operate in a midfield two with Imbula, therefore we need a new Whelan asap. Whether that's Allen remains to be seen. Imbula and Zonz with a Whelan behind them. Why wouldn't that work? That's a 4-3-3 set up and Bojan wouldn't get a look in. |
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 21, 2016 11:12:14 GMT
I get it, you dont rate him. I'm on about the last bit though. Why just make stuff up when it's clearly not true? That he's not popular at Liverpool? I honestly don't know but I recall plenty of Liverpool supporters I know who slated him during Rodger's time. Do you not think it's a bold statement that 'Liverpool fans don't rate him'? Seeing as though the past 12 hours has pretty much confirmed otherwise. I know you're being contrary for the sake of it though, I can't be arsed with it. I bet you hope he proves you wrong? |
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Post by liamo on Jul 21, 2016 11:13:08 GMT
My hope for the future is that we can be linked with a player, bid, get bid accepted, medical and personal terms agreed all within 48 hours just once
How nice it must be for things to progress quickly and smoothly
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Post by badger on Jul 21, 2016 11:16:17 GMT
Klopp said Allen is on holiday and was expected back in on 26th July.
Unless he's cutting this short can't see owt happening till next week.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 21, 2016 11:17:42 GMT
Alan Nixon still thinks Swansea could have a say...
Alan Nixon @reluctantnicko
He is Jenkins first choice. Now he has to pay. Jenkins still in charge
Its decision time all round. Allen also very fond of Swansea.
Liverpool want money now. He goes for nothing in a year. But will come down to player. Could turn down Stoke deal. Then there's no deal. Bit to go on this one yet. But a live one.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 21, 2016 11:21:22 GMT
Imbula and Zonz with a Whelan behind them. Why wouldn't that work? That's a 4-3-3 set up and Bojan wouldn't get a look in. Given his form last season Bojan could well be a regular on the bench. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2016 11:21:59 GMT
Its a valid opinion. He's never struck me as a defensive midfielder and any Liverpool fan I spoke to never seemed overly impressed. I don't think he's a bad player, as he showed in the Euros, but I'm not sure he's what we need. Personally I'd still love to see a player to fill the Zonz shaped hole and I don't think Allen is it. That's the bit I don't get. For Liverpool since January and in the Euros he was playing a very Zonzi-esque role. He was winning the ball, he was dynamic, he ran round like a blue arsed fly. Indeed Rob but he hasn't been playing as a defensive mid under Klopp. He's won more challenges on the edge of the OPPOSITION box than any other player. www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/joe-allen-liverpool-should-keep-11136084 |
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 21, 2016 11:25:02 GMT
That he's not popular at Liverpool? I honestly don't know but I recall plenty of Liverpool supporters I know who slated him during Rodger's time. Do you not think it's a bold statement that 'Liverpool fans don't rate him'? Seeing as though the past 12 hours has pretty much confirmed otherwise. I know you're being contrary for the sake of it though, I can't be arsed with it. I bet you hope he proves you wrong? What are you on about? Contrary for the sake of it??!! I thought we were having a discussion???? Chill! |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 21, 2016 11:25:49 GMT
That's why I think he's flexible enough to do both Paul. He impressed as that kind of player under Klopp and as an energetic engine for Wales. He got Liverpool to part with the thick end of £15m as a deeper lying playmaker type. To me that says he has a diverse enough skillset to play either role. |
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 21, 2016 11:30:41 GMT
Do you not think it's a bold statement that 'Liverpool fans don't rate him'? Seeing as though the past 12 hours has pretty much confirmed otherwise. I know you're being contrary for the sake of it though, I can't be arsed with it. I bet you hope he proves you wrong? What are you on about? Contrary for the sake of it??!! I thought we were having a discussion???? Chill! What are we on about? We're on about the fact that Hackett said that he's not popular with Liverpool fans, a statement that you backed up. It's bollocks, I leave you to it. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 21, 2016 11:30:41 GMT
That's why I think he's flexible enough to do both Paul. He impressed as that kind of player under Klopp and as an energetic engine for Wales. He got Liverpool to part with the thick end of £15m as a deeper lying playmaker type. To me that says he has a diverse enough skillset to play either role. I'm prepared to accept that you firmly believe that he has the potential to fulfil that role Rob and he may very well do so but I just don't think we've seen any evidence of him playing that (very) specific role yet. People over the last 24 hours have been proclaiming he's the PERFECT replacement for Whelan, when in reality they haven't even seen Allen play that role. |
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Post by mrpickles on Jul 21, 2016 11:31:55 GMT
That's why I think he's flexible enough to do both Paul. He impressed as that kind of player under Klopp and as an energetic engine for Wales. He got Liverpool to part with the thick end of £15m as a deeper lying playmaker type. To me that says he has a diverse enough skillset to play either role. I'm starting to come around to this kind of thinking myself. I'd love for us to sign someone who has made a career out of sitting in front of the back four, but there just doesn't seem to be enough of them (who are good enough) to go around anymore. A Joe Allen type seems like the next logical step. |
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