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Post by jeycov on Jul 21, 2016 7:27:32 GMT
Surely we need a replacement for Affelay and Ireland ?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 21, 2016 7:29:33 GMT
Surely we need a replacement for Affelay and Ireland ? We've got Bojan, Adam, Shaqiri, Imbula, Shenton and Arnie who can all play behind the striker. Plus the option of going 4-4-2. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 7:53:11 GMT
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Post by nutterpotter on Jul 21, 2016 8:16:55 GMT
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jul 21, 2016 8:16:57 GMT
It addresses all of our concerns. People want competition or a replacement for Whelan and Allen provides exactly that. They are very similar types of player I can't see how this signing addresses all our concerns. Generally speaking our concerns seems to be at centre half, full back, out wide, back-up goalkeeper and up front. Joe Allen's a decent player but he can't play all those positions at once. He gives us another option without whelan but I expect them to play more games together injuries permitting , we still need the strength pace and drive that the side has been lacking , maybe imbula further forward can help with that but where does that leave Bojan ? and to get the best out of Shaquiri he possibly needs to be in a free role |
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Post by cousindupree on Jul 21, 2016 8:36:33 GMT
Would be a great addition to the squad just what we need. Under Klopp his form for both Liverpool and Wales has been spectacular, he even made the 'team of the tournament' at the Euros. Which all makes it a bit baffling why Liverpool are getting rid.
As for the Swansea connection, players tend to head back to their roots later in their careers. At 26 that's not the case with Allen and tbh Swansea is a bit of a footballing backwater compared to the North West. Also I guess the missus would have a say, anyone know where she is from?
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Post by mrred on Jul 21, 2016 8:44:20 GMT
Never thought I'd see the day I'd see excitement about Joe Allen signing, least of all for us. However he's been excellent under Klopp and in the Euro's, one of the stand out players in fact. I just hope this actually comes off and were not just chasing another shadow in typical Stoke fashion.
We're signing fucking Pirlo!
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Post by stokecitytalke on Jul 21, 2016 8:44:23 GMT
Would be a great addition to the squad just what we need. Under Klopp his form for both Liverpool and Wales has been spectacular, he even made the 'team of the tournament' at the Euros. Which all makes it a bit baffling why Liverpool are getting rid. As for the Swansea connection, players tend to head back to their roots later in their careers. At 26 that's not the case with Allen and tbh Swansea is a bit of a footballing backwater compared to the North West. Also I guess the missus would have a say, anyone know where she is from? "Allen is married to Lacey, and they have a son. Inspired by her involvement in animal welfare, he adopts hens to save them when they can no longer lay eggs" Wikipedia I don't know where his wife comes from, but perhaps we should find some hens for him to adopt! |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 21, 2016 8:44:28 GMT
Would be a great addition to the squad just what we need. Under Klopp his form for both Liverpool and Wales has been spectacular, he even made the 'team of the tournament' at the Euros. Which all makes it a bit baffling why Liverpool are getting rid. As for the Swansea connection, players tend to head back to their roots later in their careers. At 26 that's not the case with Allen and tbh Swansea is a bit of a footballing backwater compared to the North West. Also I guess the missus would have a say, anyone know where she is from? Allen is a Swansea fan though. It's a bit like someone bidding £13m for you but knowing the club you love, to us Stoke, were also interested thus making the decision more difficult. I don't blame him for waiting and seeing if Swansea come in for him because I would do exactly the same in his position. |
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jul 21, 2016 8:51:04 GMT
Surely we need a replacement for Affelay and Ireland ? We've got Bojan, Adam, Shaqiri, Imbula, Shenton and Arnie who can all play behind the striker. Plus the option of going 4-4-2. Little evidence Arnie, Imbula or Shentin can play there effectively and only flashes from Shaq. But our midfield problems are elsewhere. Whelan is too slow, adds little offensively and generally slows us down. We only have him, Imbula and Charlie for the 2 central midfield places so need at least one to come in assuming Cameron can fill in. Allen seems a good fit for another central midfielder playing right and Imbula left with Shaq or Bojan in front |
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 21, 2016 8:51:25 GMT
Never been a big fan but I've only really paid any attention to him when he's played against us. My most recent memories of him are when I was glad to see him in Liverpool's starting 11 when we were playing them. Hopefully he's a lot better than I've given him credit for. He was excellent against us in the home leg I thought. Yeah, I'd forgotten that. Overall he just gives me the impression of a player who is technical excellent and very intelligent but has a tendency to drift in and out of games. I was hoping that we were looking for a Nzonzi type, maybe someone with more bite and aggression. I don't think he'd be the worst signing but he's not quite what I think we need. |
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Post by that's our Ric on Jul 21, 2016 8:56:28 GMT
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 21, 2016 8:59:16 GMT
Am I the only one thinking Allen could do the defensive role + add a lot of creativity to the role as well? More pace than Glen to cover more space and he really seems to have a good engine too. Really hope he will sign! Would much rather have Allen than Henderson to be honest!  |
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Post by alster on Jul 21, 2016 9:03:00 GMT
He was excellent against us in the home leg I thought. Yeah, I'd forgotten that. Overall he just gives me the impression of a player who is technical excellent and very intelligent but has a tendency to drift in and out of games. I was hoping that we were looking for a Nzonzi type, maybe someone with more bite and aggression. I don't think he'd be the worst signing but he's not quite what I think we need. I know what you mean, its a good solid signing albeit a quite expensive one but not that exciting. Of their players, personally I'd have prefered Emre Can don't know if he'd be attainable but I thought he was the best player on the pitch in our home leg of the semi. |
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Post by alster on Jul 21, 2016 9:04:21 GMT
Am I the only one thinking Allen could do the defensive role + add a lot of creativity to the role as well? More pace than Glen to cover more space and he really seems to have a good engine too. Really hope he will sign! Would much rather have Allen than Henderson to be honest! I'd rather sign a mangy dog than Henderson. He's a proper headless chicken. |
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Post by snig on Jul 21, 2016 9:07:59 GMT
If Allen signs which roll would he play . Whelan Allen and imbula behind striker ? Or is Allen whelans upgrade?
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Post by ElworthPotter on Jul 21, 2016 9:10:20 GMT
This would be a cracking signing. Looked like he was losing his way a bit but has been brilliant for the last 6-9 months. Just because a player maybe isn't quite good enough to meet the expectations of Liverpool or other "big" clubs' fans doesn't mean they can;t be very good for us. Glen Johnson proved that last season and hope Allen can if he signs.
Could partner Whelan or Imbula if either was missing for a period imo. My biggest doubt is I reckon this bid might prompt Swansea into action and sounds like he'd prefer a move back there
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Jul 21, 2016 9:15:01 GMT
A midfield platter of Allen, Imbula, Whelan, Affelay and Adam to sit in behind Bojan or whoever would provide incredible depth for a mid-table club like us.
Also opens up the option of utilizing more of a 4-3-3 with that group as well. Decent, that.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jul 21, 2016 9:19:00 GMT
This would be a cracking signing. Looked like he was losing his way a bit but has been brilliant for the last 6-9 months. Just because a player maybe isn't quite good enough to meet the expectations of Liverpool or other "big" clubs' fans doesn't mean they can;t be very good for us. Glen Johnson proved that last season and hope Allen can if he signs. Could partner Whelan or Imbula if either was missing for a period imo. My biggest doubt is I reckon this bid might prompt Swansea into action and sounds like he'd prefer a move back there I did post over a year ago that I wouldn't have been too thrilled with his sigining but he seemed to flourish when Rodgers left. Am I the only one that thinks £13 million is fine in this mad world we live in? If he's waiting for Swansea to come in for him then fair enough, he'll hopefully make his mind up soon. I'm sure Sparky as manager will have an influence. |
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Post by nott1 on Jul 21, 2016 9:19:24 GMT
Liverpool accept £13m Joe Allen offer from Stoke City - Sky sources
By Andy Charles
Last Updated: 21/07/16 8:25am
Stoke's bid for Joe Allen has been accepted
Stoke's bid for Joe Allen has been accepted
Stoke City have agreed a £13m fee for Liverpool midfielder Joe Allen, Sky sources understand.
Allen has been at Liverpool since 2012 but was in and out of Jurgen Klopp's first team after the German took over from Brendan Rodgers in October, 2015.
Allen made the majority of his appearances off the bench and ended the season, which was partially affected by injury, with only eight Premier League starts.
The former Swansea midfielder is out of contract at the end of the 2016-17 season and Klopp said last week he was looking into Allen's position at the club, where there is plenty of competition for a midfield place.
The German would not comment on the Stoke offer after his side's 2-0 win over Huddersfield on Wednesday, saying: "We cannot comment because we couldn't do anything else all day so we shouldn't start with this.
"I feel good (about Joe). I like the guy and I really think he is a wonderful football player. I knew this before the European Championships, I saw it during the Euros and I know it now.
"I have said all I can say about this. It is all about respecting contracts, negotiating or not - whatever - and making a transfer or not."
Stoke boss Mark Hughes has been quiet in the transfer market so far this summer but midfield is an area of concern with Stephen Ireland (broken leg) and Ibrahim Affelay (cruciate ligament) already on the sidelines long-term.
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Ben Williams1
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cant they have Henderson instead of Allen
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Paul Anthanasius
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please dont sell him
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Dan Apparently
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Good luck Joe! Sad to see him go but it's unfair to keep him just as a squad player.
Hughes is a top manager so I'm sure he'll develop even more. Stoke fans, you'll love him. Hard working, gives everything and is extremely talented.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jul 21, 2016 9:20:38 GMT
Would be a great addition to the squad just what we need. Under Klopp his form for both Liverpool and Wales has been spectacular, he even made the 'team of the tournament' at the Euros. Which all makes it a bit baffling why Liverpool are getting rid. As for the Swansea connection, players tend to head back to their roots later in their careers. At 26 that's not the case with Allen and tbh Swansea is a bit of a footballing backwater compared to the North West. Also I guess the missus would have a say, anyone know where she is from? "Allen is married to Lacey, and they have a son. Inspired by her involvement in animal welfare, he adopts hens to save them when they can no longer lay eggs" Wikipedia I don't know where his wife comes from, but perhaps we should find some hens for him to adopt! Chicken and egg situation again then? |
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Post by ElworthPotter on Jul 21, 2016 9:25:03 GMT
This would be a cracking signing. Looked like he was losing his way a bit but has been brilliant for the last 6-9 months. Just because a player maybe isn't quite good enough to meet the expectations of Liverpool or other "big" clubs' fans doesn't mean they can;t be very good for us. Glen Johnson proved that last season and hope Allen can if he signs. Could partner Whelan or Imbula if either was missing for a period imo. My biggest doubt is I reckon this bid might prompt Swansea into action and sounds like he'd prefer a move back there I did post over a year ago that I wouldn't have been too thrilled with his sigining but he seemed to flourish when Rodgers left. Am I the only one that thinks £13 million is fine in this mad world we live in? If he's waiting for Swansea to come in for him then fair enough, he'll hopefully make his mind up soon. I'm sure Sparky as manager will have an influence. Yeah I agree. When you look at some of the fees knocking about at the moment £13 million for Allen is par for the course or maybe even good value. Sparky should have some influence like you say, but best to gget going before Swansea have a chance to come in, our lot are good at getting these things done quickly though, so no bother!  |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 21, 2016 9:28:28 GMT
We've got Bojan, Adam, Shaqiri, Imbula, Shenton and Arnie who can all play behind the striker. Plus the option of going 4-4-2. Little evidence Arnie, Imbula or Shentin can play there effectively and only flashes from Shaq. But our midfield problems are elsewhere. Whelan is too slow, adds little offensively and generally slows us down. We only have him, Imbula and Charlie for the 2 central midfield places so need at least one to come in assuming Cameron can fill in. Allen seems a good fit for another central midfielder playing right and Imbula left with Shaq or Bojan in front We'd only have to play any of those three there if the other five players we have to play there were all injured though wouldn't we? It's not Whelan's job to offer stuff offensively but someone more mobile for that role is an essential and Allen ticks that box for me. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 21, 2016 9:31:20 GMT
He was excellent against us in the home leg I thought. Yeah, I'd forgotten that. Overall he just gives me the impression of a player who is technical excellent and very intelligent but has a tendency to drift in and out of games. I was hoping that we were looking for a Nzonzi type, maybe someone with more bite and aggression. I don't think he'd be the worst signing but he's not quite what I think we need. I don't understand the idea he hasn't got bite and aggression. He's shown plenty of both in the last six months. He isn't the Brendan Rodgers golden boy sterile short passing machine anymore. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 21, 2016 9:40:25 GMT
Don't know how reliable this bloke is, but he says it's at the medical stage?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 21, 2016 9:40:56 GMT
Peter Harding @peterhardingdm · 11m11 minutes ago
Joe Allen is heading to Stoke City for a medical.
Fee is believed to be £13m.
Stoke remain interested in Robin van Persie also. #SCFC #LFC
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jul 21, 2016 9:41:38 GMT
I didn't know he was coming into the last year of his contract. I guess £13 million is as much as we should pay considering this.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 21, 2016 9:41:45 GMT
FM !!! beat me by seconds |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 21, 2016 9:42:37 GMT
Don't know how reliable this bloke is, but he says it's at the medical stage? He looks like a billy bullshitter unfortunately. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 21, 2016 9:45:25 GMT
Don't know how reliable this bloke is, but he says it's at the medical stage? He looks like a billy bullshitter unfortunately. Yeah. Does seem to be a bullshit account |
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