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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 20, 2016 23:03:43 GMT
He says he would rather go to Swansea, for fuck sake stoke To be fair samba this post implies that you've read a quote from him saying as much, its pretty easy to see why people are questioning you on it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2016 23:04:57 GMT
You've shit the bed samba. We all do it, just acknowledge it and we can all move on....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2016 23:05:31 GMT
For anyone interested, sorry if already posted on the thread.
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 20, 2016 23:06:31 GMT
He's impressed me recently, but I'm a bit bothered about the lack of a real dominant, physical player in the middle.
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Post by daibando on Jul 20, 2016 23:07:08 GMT
Joe Allen has been superb over the last 12 months. As a Welshman I never really rated him but he has been a transformed player.
Some of his displays for club and country have been excellent. He will be a superb buy for you
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Post by burge2u on Jul 20, 2016 23:08:18 GMT
His height will be invaluable at set peices and corners Don't mention corners, ........ people will want them filled in |
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Post by jezzascfc on Jul 20, 2016 23:10:03 GMT
Until tonight I wasn't aware that so many of us Stokies wanted the club to sign a "Dolph Lundgren-a-like" to patrol the central midfield.
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Post by Gods on Jul 20, 2016 23:10:52 GMT
80 mill? I'll believe it when I see it You might not see it, but it is there if Hughes wants it and can get his targets. Believe me when I say, we are shopping in a different pond now, these deals take time and will cost a lot of money. Yes, my only concern is that it appears to be a pond without any fish in it right now, but hopefully that will soon change  |
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Post by samba :) on Jul 20, 2016 23:11:54 GMT
He says he would rather go to Swansea, for fuck sake stoke To be fair samba this post implies that you've read a quote from him saying as much, its pretty easy to see why people are questioning you on it. yes i concede your point  |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 20, 2016 23:16:32 GMT
sureeee i would do that because??? Fuck knows. Anyone would think you don't want Stoke to sign a quality International footballer, with massive Premier League experience. Oh fuck off. Tell me you've not just been pulling my chain. Shit I've had too much holiday beer. I'm off to bed. |
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Post by ryan4england on Jul 20, 2016 23:28:21 GMT
If Hughes has 80 million to spend he has got no excuse but to end the window with a rock solid defence
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Post by senojbor on Jul 20, 2016 23:41:55 GMT
Cracking player. 10 times better than Henderson
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Post by Foster on Jul 20, 2016 23:57:36 GMT
Can someone confirm his position? Is it cdm like Whelan?
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Post by stockportstokie on Jul 21, 2016 0:45:45 GMT
Ki is elite at certain things and shite at others. He's the best passer of the ball in the PL imo. Lot's of people being utter hypocrites here. At least 90% of this forum would've classed Allen as utter shit before this news broke. Wait... Erm..... Best passer in the Prem... What the Scottish Prem? He's not the best passer in the fucking Prem I mean come on. It's an opinion and I stand by it. Other areas of his game is lacking but his passing is absurdly good. I suppose you only watch him twice a season which is fine but doesn't put you in a great position to judge a player. If you're sad enough have a scout on youtube for his range of passing or take heed from stats which season on season proves he's the most efficient passer in the league. I'm not wrong on this one, he isn't an elite player but his passing is off its head. |
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Post by pottarius on Jul 21, 2016 0:48:32 GMT
Can someone confirm his position? Is it cdm like Whelan? I must admit I'm not 100% he's a like for like I can see him linking well with Imbula and Whelan (or his direct replacement perhaps) in a central 3 but this means either Bojan or Diouf/Saido miss out on a start. If we play with someone just behind the striker then either Bojan/Imbula would most likely be benched as we'd need 2 fairly rigorous players in the middle to do the graft for the team. Either way it seems Bojan in particular will really need to catch Hughes eye to get regular starts & I still think we'll be after someone like Lemina even if Allen agrees terms |
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Post by stockportstokie on Jul 21, 2016 0:50:23 GMT
Can someone confirm his position? Is it cdm like Whelan? He's a terrier type, far more mobile than Whelan. He's not a box to box but he can get up & down, receive the ball and lay it off again. He's not as lightweight as people might think either, look at that fucking henchness underneath the jersey.  |
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Post by Northy on Jul 21, 2016 1:38:32 GMT
For those who want a destroyer, that is clearly not what Hughes wants in players these days. He wants players who are comfortable on the ball, who can pass and move, retain possession (ball shirkulashun, as Bossie said!) and feed the attacking midfielders. The days of Mick Kennedy and Stigger Foley are long gone. Allen will fit in well with the style of play Hughes is orchestrating. He can cover ground and win the ball as well, he just isn't going to take someone's leg off at the knee in the process! So expect a few more 4-0 defeats? |
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Post by oakiestokie on Jul 21, 2016 3:26:05 GMT
Great signing... Whelan upgrade complete. Well have a good set of terriers in the middle next season. Excited for this!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 4:44:35 GMT
Wait... Erm..... Best passer in the Prem... What the Scottish Prem? He's not the best passer in the fucking Prem I mean come on. It's an opinion and I stand by it. Other areas of his game is lacking but his passing is absurdly good. I suppose you only watch him twice a season which is fine but doesn't put you in a great position to judge a player. If you're sad enough have a scout on youtube for his range of passing or take heed from stats which season on season proves he's the most efficient passer in the league. I'm not wrong on this one, he isn't an elite player but his passing is off its head. I respect your opinion but I don't think the best passer in the Prem plays for Swansea. by the way, it's not sad to watch YouTube clips of players when we get connected with them, it's called having an interest. I don't need YouTube to know that Ozil and co are better passers. |
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Jul 21, 2016 5:27:44 GMT
Joe Allen has been superb over the last 12 months. As a Welshman I never really rated him but he has been a transformed player. Some of his displays for club and country have been excellent. He will be a superb buy for you You reckon? Not being argumentative but he was ok in the Euros with Ramsey by his side but I didn't think he did much for Liverpool this season. I actually think he'll be a good buy for Stoke but it's nowt to do with the last 12 months, it's his time before Liverpool when he was playing every game and getting the minutes that I think is the good measure. |
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Post by birchesheadstokie on Jul 21, 2016 5:52:46 GMT
I think this is a deffo smokescreen, I think Allen will wait it out till January so he can go Swansea ,or swans match our bid and klopp owes us one , maybe this is to force Lemina's hand into making a decision .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 5:58:16 GMT
Latest from Peter Coates.
"I can confirm I went to see the Liverpool chairman in person. I just shouted the words Joe and Allen, unzipped and thumped it down onto the table and asked him his thoughts on the proposal.
I think the word they use is "Speechless"."
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Post by chuffedstokie on Jul 21, 2016 6:19:25 GMT
Latest from Peter Coates. "I can confirm I went to see the Liverpool chairman in person. I just shouted the words Joe and Allen, unzipped and thumped it down onto the table and asked him his thoughts on the proposal. I think the word they use is "Speechless"." Tactical genius. |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jul 21, 2016 6:35:03 GMT
No doubt a good player who will suit the Hughes style , just not sure it addresses any of our current concerns so still a lot to spend . But if other players come in in the areas where we are weak a decent addition
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 21, 2016 6:51:16 GMT
Joe Allen has been superb over the last 12 months. As a Welshman I never really rated him but he has been a transformed player. Some of his displays for club and country have been excellent. He will be a superb buy for you You reckon? Not being argumentative but he was ok in the Euros with Ramsey by his side but I didn't think he did much for Liverpool this season. I actually think he'll be a good buy for Stoke but it's nowt to do with the last 12 months, it's his time before Liverpool when he was playing every game and getting the minutes that I think is the good measure. He was very good for Liverpool once Klopp arrived. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 21, 2016 6:56:56 GMT
Joe Allen has been superb over the last 12 months. As a Welshman I never really rated him but he has been a transformed player. Some of his displays for club and country have been excellent. He will be a superb buy for you You reckon? Not being argumentative but he was ok in the Euros with Ramsey by his side but I didn't think he did much for Liverpool this season. I actually think he'll be a good buy for Stoke but it's nowt to do with the last 12 months, it's his time before Liverpool when he was playing every game and getting the minutes that I think is the good measure. He was easily Liverpool best player in the fixtures v us this year. He was particularly impressive in the two cup ties. I wasn't impressed when he first went to Liverpool but as daibando says, he seems to have improved massively over the last 12 Months. He's clearly a very decent player and he would be a super signing for us. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 21, 2016 6:59:24 GMT
No doubt a good player who will suit the Hughes style , just not sure it addresses any of our current concerns so still a lot to spend . But if other players come in in the areas where we are weak a decent addition It addresses one of our main concerns. People want competition or a replacement for Whelan and Allen provides exactly that. They are very similar types of player |
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Post by charlesjefferson on Jul 21, 2016 7:04:49 GMT
No doubt a good player who will suit the Hughes style , just not sure it addresses any of our current concerns so still a lot to spend . But if other players come in in the areas where we are weak a decent addition People want competition or a replacement for Whelan and Allen provides exactly that. They are very similar types of player I can't see how this signing addresses all our concerns. Generally speaking our concerns seems to be at centre half, full back, out wide, back-up goalkeeper and up front. Joe Allen's a decent player but he can't play all those positions at once. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 21, 2016 7:08:41 GMT
It addresses all of our concerns. People want competition or a replacement for Whelan and Allen provides exactly that. They are very similar types of player I can't see how this signing addresses all our concerns. Generally speaking our concerns seems to be at centre half, full back, out wide, back-up goalkeeper and up front. Joe Allen's a decent player but he can't play all those positions at once. Very good. I should rephrase! |
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Post by Biblical on Jul 21, 2016 7:18:00 GMT
You reckon? Not being argumentative but he was ok in the Euros with Ramsey by his side but I didn't think he did much for Liverpool this season. I actually think he'll be a good buy for Stoke but it's nowt to do with the last 12 months, it's his time before Liverpool when he was playing every game and getting the minutes that I think is the good measure. He was very good for Liverpool once Klopp arrived. Under Klopp he was impressive and he carried that over into the Euro's. I think he's definitely got the tenacity required to play in Whelan's position, I think Whelan has been great and will continue to serve us well but I think Allen is the much fabled Whelan upgrade. |
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