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Post by liquidlen on May 5, 2017 6:44:16 GMT
I simply love your vision for the future of England. Thanks for the tips MATE Well if you can't look beyond the tip of your nose A career in window cleaning awaits...
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Post by bathstoke on May 5, 2017 7:01:52 GMT
I suggest you re-plan your business quick instead of crossing your fingers and hoping it goes away i was listening to radio 4 the other week and the guy who's running Tate and Lyle said any sensible run business has already planned ahead regardless of their stance on the vote hes relishing a hard Brexit by the way and his words were he's more excited by the chance to trade with the world without the shackles than he was when his first child was born ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif) he says there are a few firms still in denial and that by doing this they will be the ones to blame for their business failure Tate and Lyle deal in sugar Oooh, White Gold! It's not 1740
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Post by liquidlen on May 5, 2017 7:05:42 GMT
Tate and Lyle deal in sugar Oooh, White Gold! It's not 1740 I think that's the target date for these bloody Brexiteers. A bit of slavery would come in handy too
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 7:05:44 GMT
Well if you can't look beyond the tip of your nose A career in window cleaning awaits... Joking aside it's obvious we are going to have this phoney war for quite some time but, be in no doubt deals will be struck in the end for the sake of the uk and the other 27's businesses The aggression and threats are all because they see small groups in the uk wobbling already and are trying to turn around the result. They also see other countries chomping at the bit to leave If we stick to our guns they will eventually sit and get deals done that is good for both parties
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Post by liquidlen on May 5, 2017 7:07:41 GMT
A career in window cleaning awaits... Joking aside it's obvious we are going to have this phoney war for quite some time but, be in no doubt deals will be struck in the end for the sake of the uk and the other 27's businesses The aggression and threats are all because they see small groups in the uk wobbling already and are trying to turn around the result. They also see other countries chomping at the bit to leave If we stick to our guns they will eventually sit and get deals done that is good for both parties Lets hope so. The pre-amble to the negotiations haven't exactly got off to a flyer though.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 7:23:15 GMT
You're being ridiculous if you don't recognise that those at The EU desperately want The UK to suffer as a warning to any other dissident nations. It's not personal of course but it is the reality of the situation. They would sooner see UK children starve than see their beloved failed project disintegrate. I've no doubt they want the best deal for the EU, which by default means a shit deal for the UK. But it's vice versa as well. I've seen far more British people hoping for the collapse of the EU, than the other way round. The people whinging about the EU bullying need to man up. They voted for to leave the EU, and are now upset that the EU are not thinking in the UK's best interest. The equivalent of not renewing your season ticket at Stoke, then being shocked when they won't let you into the ground for the first game of next season. Stop whinging, grow a pair, and crack on with it. You're so indoctrinated it's scary. Just stop for a moment and have a real hard think about why you seem to believe a negotiation between two trading partners is some sort of zero-sum game. It may very well be your red-pill moment but I won't hold my breath.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 7:28:40 GMT
Joking aside it's obvious we are going to have this phoney war for quite some time but, be in no doubt deals will be struck in the end for the sake of the uk and the other 27's businesses The aggression and threats are all because they see small groups in the uk wobbling already and are trying to turn around the result. They also see other countries chomping at the bit to leave If we stick to our guns they will eventually sit and get deals done that is good for both parties Lets hope so. The pre-amble to the negotiations haven't exactly got off to a flyer though. That's the way of the game tho.
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Post by liquidlen on May 5, 2017 7:30:37 GMT
Lets hope so. The pre-amble to the negotiations haven't exactly got off to a flyer though. That's the way of the game tho. She'd better have a bloody ace up her sleeve...
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 5, 2017 8:12:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 8:13:05 GMT
I didn't accuse you of being a wind up merchant ....I asked you if you were ....a subtle difference , you earlier cast doubts upon my intellect .....let me tell you mate you do yourself no favours at all with some of the things you post on here ....don't ridicule others when you are clearly a little light on what's going on yourself ..and I mean that in the nicest possible way before you take offence No you don't 🤗 You are right of course ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/cj7bsBj2jOTuEAUVaPt5.gif)
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 5, 2017 8:17:14 GMT
Lets hope so. The pre-amble to the negotiations haven't exactly got off to a flyer though. That's the way of the game tho. No, it's not the "way of the game" though. Don't try and pretend we have no choice but to create a smoke screen of threats of walking away i.e. no deal is better than a bad deal. That was crap when Clucker came out with it as a 'no deal' = leaving on W.T.O. terms i.e. high tariffs on 50% of our exports!
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 8:21:12 GMT
Don't knock it ....It's very handy when you have to nip over to Belgium at lunchtime .....you can be home for tea ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif) I love Brussels ( please try to contribute to Jez's thread "Stoke City's greatest gardener".. ..it does help in his rehabilitation), particularly the St Catherine's Square area, although over the years the steps of the Church have incressingly become occupied by some 'undesirables' . Sadly many of the elder residents lament what has happened to their city in recent history. The EU conglomerate is a fascinitating somewhat state of the art, surreal bubble, providing a great cafe culture lifestyle for our leaders, but disassociated and isolated from old Brussels.....one old lady was actually in genuine tears at the demise of her city. And there was real fear of the Molenbeek area.This was confirmed by some employees of the EU, a few years back two members of the UK and Danish group said to me that they had lived their for over 10 years and had only got to know one Brusselonian. I've already posted on it John and I spoke to him about the allotment a few weeks ago .....I'm sure it will be very beneficial to him and I wish him well with it
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Post by Northy on May 5, 2017 8:21:24 GMT
Plastic components, nothing glamorous Dildos ![(question)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/XXiVCR8ugEQgztLfqFjy.gif) ************** makes plastic dicks and possibly butt plugs ?
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Post by Northy on May 5, 2017 8:23:44 GMT
I'm no europhile. I want the UK to stay within the union because of the economic downturn that surely awaits us if we lose access to the single market. We could possibly see a total meltdown in the UK financial services sector and that would be an unmitigated disaster. The EU is far from perfect, in fact it is relatively flawed but I worry about losing single market access as much of my business is done there. I suggest you re-plan your business quick instead of crossing your fingers and hoping it goes away i was listening to radio 4 the other week and the guy who's running Tate and Lyle said any sensible run business has already planned ahead regardless of their stance on the vote hes relishing a hard Brexit by the way and his words were he's more excited by the chance to trade with the world without the shackles than he was when his first child was born ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif) he says there are a few firms still in denial and that by doing this they will be the ones to blame for their business failure Tate and Lyle v British sugar, always a battle going on, British Sugar gets help from the EU farming policy, do Tate and Lyle produce in the comminwealth countries, as that could benefit them on leaving ?
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 9:06:15 GMT
That's the way of the game tho. No, it's not the "way of the game" though. Don't try and pretend we have no choice but to create a smoke screen of threats of walking away i.e. no deal is better than a bad deal. That was crap when Clucker came out with it as a 'no deal' = leaving on W.T.O. terms i.e. high tariffs on 50% of our exports! It is how it goes.....do you believe that juncker means we owe one large sum plucked from thin air one day then double that the next? And all the insults from them is all part of the game Do you slam that too by the way? Always starts by asking for the world and add a few threats to make you cave in At this point it's a game .... political media gurus have said the same....it's all bravado for a while yet
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 5, 2017 9:10:55 GMT
No, it's not the "way of the game" though. Don't try and pretend we have no choice but to create a smoke screen of threats of walking away i.e. no deal is better than a bad deal. That was crap when Clucker came out with it as a 'no deal' = leaving on W.T.O. terms i.e. high tariffs on 50% of our exports! It is how it goes.....do you believe that juncker means we owe one large sum plucked from thin air one day then double that the next? And all the insults from them is all part of the game Do you slam that too by the way? Always starts by asking for the world and add a few threats to make you cave in At this point it's a game .... political media gurus have said the same....it's all bravado for a while yet Every time, Juncker reads these Proboards and 'followyoudown' says there is no legality to their claim, Claude is so pissed off he doubles the amount! At this rate, we'll soon owe more than Greece!
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 5, 2017 9:19:09 GMT
No, it's not the "way of the game" though. Don't try and pretend we have no choice but to create a smoke screen of threats of walking away i.e. no deal is better than a bad deal. That was crap when Clucker came out with it as a 'no deal' = leaving on W.T.O. terms i.e. high tariffs on 50% of our exports! It is how it goes.....do you believe that juncker means we owe one large sum plucked from thin air one day then double that the next? And all the insults from them is all part of the game Do you slam that too by the way? Always starts by asking for the world and add a few threats to make you cave in At this point it's a game .... political media gurus have said the same....it's all bravado for a while yet You make an interesting point Mary that I've wanted to pick up on for a while but haven't had the time. I'd be genuinely interested to hear the Remainers response to this; Once a person puts themselves forward as a " politician", inevitably they are open ti abuse. Goes with the territory and us Brurs are good at inflicting the abuse/ criticism, irrespective of parties...Corbyn, Abbot, Osborne, Clegg, Farage, Cameron etc etc. Everyone gets their fair share. In the eyes of the Remainers it seems to me that the EU politicians are beyond criticism as INDIVIDUALS...they must be OK because they are the EU. Thus is the default position. Really it reflects their anonymity and remoteness from our electorate, their induvidual unnacountability, lack of any effective opposition and is actually an affront to true democracy
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Post by liquidlen on May 5, 2017 9:29:54 GMT
It is how it goes.....do you believe that juncker means we owe one large sum plucked from thin air one day then double that the next? And all the insults from them is all part of the game Do you slam that too by the way? Always starts by asking for the world and add a few threats to make you cave in At this point it's a game .... political media gurus have said the same....it's all bravado for a while yet Every time, Juncker reads these Proboards and 'followyoudown' says there is no legality to their claim, Claude is so pissed off he doubles the amount! At this rate, we'll soon owe more than Greece! The Maybot could always go to Quick Quid at 1295% APR
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on May 5, 2017 9:38:09 GMT
It is how it goes.....do you believe that juncker means we owe one large sum plucked from thin air one day then double that the next? And all the insults from them is all part of the game Do you slam that too by the way? Always starts by asking for the world and add a few threats to make you cave in At this point it's a game .... political media gurus have said the same....it's all bravado for a while yet You make an interesting point Mary that I've wanted to pick up on for a while but haven't had the time. I'd be genuinely interested to hear the Remainers response to this; Once a person puts themselves forward as a " politician", inevitably they are open ti abuse. Goes with the territory and us Brurs are good at inflicting the abuse/ criticism, irrespective of parties...Corbyn, Abbot, Osborne, Clegg, Farage, Cameron etc etc. Everyone gets their fair share. In the eyes of the Remainers it seems to me that the EU politicians are beyond criticism as INDIVIDUALS...they must be OK because they are the EU. Thus is the default position. Really it reflects their anonymity and remoteness from our electorate, their induvidual unnacountability, lack of any effective opposition and is actually an affront to true democracy EU politicians are probably as bad as UK politicians - we're just more interested in UK politicians, so we know more, and we see them warts and all. I'm sure a group of EU politicians is made up of roughly the same type of person as the UK politicians - plenty of cunts, knobs and arseholes, with the odd decent person thrown in for good measure.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 5, 2017 10:09:01 GMT
You make an interesting point Mary that I've wanted to pick up on for a while but haven't had the time. I'd be genuinely interested to hear the Remainers response to this; Once a person puts themselves forward as a " politician", inevitably they are open ti abuse. Goes with the territory and us Brurs are good at inflicting the abuse/ criticism, irrespective of parties...Corbyn, Abbot, Osborne, Clegg, Farage, Cameron etc etc. Everyone gets their fair share. In the eyes of the Remainers it seems to me that the EU politicians are beyond criticism as INDIVIDUALS...they must be OK because they are the EU. Thus is the default position. Really it reflects their anonymity and remoteness from our electorate, their induvidual unnacountability, lack of any effective opposition and is actually an affront to true democracy EU politicians are probably as bad as UK politicians - we're just more interested in UK politicians, so we know more, and we see them warts and all. I'm sure a group of EU politicians is made up of roughly the same type of person as the UK politicians - plenty of cunts, knobs and arseholes, with the odd decent person thrown in for good measure. Thats my point though Rip....infact I think that they are much much worse than our lot, certainly do not have the interests of the UK at heart AND are unnacountable and beyond criticism in their self congratulatory bubble.And yet Remainers want to give away our birthright to them...I was looking for some defence in favour of this deceptive creation. I honestly believe that most people who are blindly and totally in favour of the EU ( in the UK) do not really know what is going on. I don't blame them for this, I think that they are right and have enough on, trying to get our lot to behave with leadership, justice, fairness etc, which most people want...why should they try to understand a system that's not even meant to be a political democracy as we understand it, but a bureaucratic administrative quango, beyond reproach in their mission for ever closer union, laughing at and despising the ordinary citizen. Still, better the devil you DON'T know, eh.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 10:09:47 GMT
It is how it goes.....do you believe that juncker means we owe one large sum plucked from thin air one day then double that the next? And all the insults from them is all part of the game Do you slam that too by the way? Always starts by asking for the world and add a few threats to make you cave in At this point it's a game .... political media gurus have said the same....it's all bravado for a while yet You make an interesting point Mary that I've wanted to pick up on for a while but haven't had the time. I'd be genuinely interested to hear the Remainers response to this; Once a person puts themselves forward as a " politician", inevitably they are open ti abuse. Goes with the territory and us Brurs are good at inflicting the abuse/ criticism, irrespective of parties...Corbyn, Abbot, Osborne, Clegg, Farage, Cameron etc etc. Everyone gets their fair share. In the eyes of the Remainers it seems to me that the EU politicians are beyond criticism as INDIVIDUALS...they must be OK because they are the EU. Thus is the default position. Really it reflects their anonymity and remoteness from our electorate, their induvidual unnacountability, lack of any effective opposition and is actually an affront to true democracy Brainwashing through universities and schools ? + media bias due to eu strong connection with large corporations
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 5, 2017 10:13:31 GMT
You make an interesting point Mary that I've wanted to pick up on for a while but haven't had the time. I'd be genuinely interested to hear the Remainers response to this; Once a person puts themselves forward as a " politician", inevitably they are open ti abuse. Goes with the territory and us Brurs are good at inflicting the abuse/ criticism, irrespective of parties...Corbyn, Abbot, Osborne, Clegg, Farage, Cameron etc etc. Everyone gets their fair share. In the eyes of the Remainers it seems to me that the EU politicians are beyond criticism as INDIVIDUALS...they must be OK because they are the EU. Thus is the default position. Really it reflects their anonymity and remoteness from our electorate, their induvidual unnacountability, lack of any effective opposition and is actually an affront to true democracy Brainwashing through universities and schools ? Absolutely, but even some of the young people whom I work with in several universities are actually beginning to question the system.Universities have deliberately and particuarly been targeted by EU funding ( no such thing) to gain collaboration in their mission.
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Post by essexstokey on May 5, 2017 10:38:54 GMT
Lloyd Blankfein said that his firm, Goldman Sachs, which employs 6,500 people in the UK, had "contingency plans" to move people depending on the outcome of the negotiations link
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 5, 2017 10:44:43 GMT
Lloyd Blankfein said that his firm, Goldman Sachs, which employs 6,500 people in the UK, had "contingency plans" to move people depending on the outcome of the negotiations linkThat's good planning...it is always good to have contingency plans
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 5, 2017 11:36:35 GMT
So here's proof positive that the EU don't want a deal. What was Tusk lecturing May about yesterday? Here's Juncker speaking this morning choosing to speak French because "English is losing it's importance in Europe" to a round of applause. BBC link
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 5, 2017 11:48:44 GMT
So here's proof positive that the EU don't want a deal. What was Tusk lecturing May about yesterday? Here's Juncker speaking this morning choosing to speak French because "English is losing it's importance in Europe" to a round of applause. BBC linkI agree Roger...I think that they realise that without our contribution the experiment towards a United States of Europe, cannot continue. The budget is Needed to fund their lifestyle and political aims, very little to do with enabling trade....they may as well try to A exhort money from us , via threats B Subvert Brexit C Try to destroy us/ send us to Coventry....at least they will gain some pleasure from this. They could try all the above or just one, but if there is one thing about the British spirit, there is a bit of stubbornness and defiance in the face of threats.
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on May 5, 2017 11:57:36 GMT
So here's proof positive that the EU don't want a deal. What was Tusk lecturing May about yesterday? Here's Juncker speaking this morning choosing to speak French because "English is losing it's importance in Europe" to a round of applause. BBC linkIt is schoolboy nonsense and posturing. It is also another not so well hidden attempt to influence the French elections. It is not surprising that over the last few weeks that the idea of Frexit has grown amongst the voters that suddenly the pro-EU candidate changes tact and talks about guaranteeing "hard changes in the EU" for French interests. This is despite his earlier stance of treating Le Penn's similar stance earlier in the campaign with distain. Suddenly, despite polls looking like a good win for Macron, the EU are espousing the French language as a rising influence and 'stirring' up support for the French cause by speaking in French whilst intentionally dismissing English, purely because they want to remove the element of doubt that their 'Man' wins. Considering that English is the business language of the world it is so thinly veiled it is laughable. This will only serve to increase support for May during the voting and negotiations.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 5, 2017 12:01:06 GMT
So here's proof positive that the EU don't want a deal. What was Tusk lecturing May about yesterday? Here's Juncker speaking this morning choosing to speak French because "English is losing it's importance in Europe" to a round of applause. BBC linkI agree Roger...I think that they realise that without our contribution the experiment towards a United States of Europe, cannot continue. The budget is Needed to fund their lifestyle and political aims, very little to do with enabling trade....they may as well try to A exhort money from us , via threats B Subvert Brexit C Try to destroy us/ send us to Coventry....at least they will gain some pleasure from this. They could try all the above or just one, but if there is one thing about the British spirit, there is a bit if stubbornness and defiance in the face of threats. I find it all very inevitable. He grandstands with his sly posturing but no remainers on here or the press in Europe will admonish him. Tusk won't tell him to stop being "emotional". It's funny that all the signage behind him and the "State of the Union Address" (now where is that phrase used ![8-|](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/rY_vRFLA3mqqdMbEG4cF.gif) ) font on the podium is all in English.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 12:03:42 GMT
You are right of course ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/cj7bsBj2jOTuEAUVaPt5.gif) OI! What's going on here?......behave or go to the naughty corner
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 5, 2017 12:11:18 GMT
So here's proof positive that the EU don't want a deal. What was Tusk lecturing May about yesterday? Here's Juncker speaking this morning choosing to speak French because "English is losing it's importance in Europe" to a round of applause. BBC linkIt is schoolboy nonsense and posturing. It is also another not so well hidden attempt to influence the French elections. It is not surprising that over the last few weeks that the idea of Frexit has grown amongst the voters that suddenly the pro-EU candidate changes tact and talks about guaranteeing "hard changes in the EU" for French interests. This is despite his earlier stance of treating Le Penn's similar stance earlier in the campaign with distain. Suddenly, despite polls looking like a good win for Macron, the EU are espousing the French language as a rising influence and 'stirring' up support for the French cause by speaking in French whilst intentionally dismissing English, purely because they want to remove the element of doubt that their 'Man' wins. Considering that English is the business language of the world it is so thinly veiled it is laughable. This will only serve to increase support for May during the voting and negotiations. It is interesting that the EU as an institution do openly engage in supposedly independent Sovereign State election campaigns. Not neutrally but no one seems to comment on this??
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