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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 20:53:23 GMT
Agree completely Big John - complete submission to the project wasn't far off and we've had a lucky escape IMO. I don't think the Euro will survive 10yrs btw, eventually going tits-up with the toxic debt (essentially DB) it's carrying. The EU has been parking it's time-bombs up the track for years - some of them are due to go off, Brexit was one of them!! There could well be some similar ones a bit further up that track .
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 20:55:20 GMT
Would that be I.T . buisiness ....if I may be so bold as to ask ? Manufacturing. Ah ....I was just curious , that's a broad spectrum isn't it ?
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Post by liquidlen on May 4, 2017 20:59:22 GMT
Ah ....I was just curious , that's a broad spectrum isn't it ? Plastic components, nothing glamorous
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 21:00:50 GMT
Ah ....I was just curious , that's a broad spectrum isn't it ? Plastic components, nothing glamorous Ok
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Post by capto on May 4, 2017 21:37:13 GMT
I'm no europhile. I want the UK to stay within the union because of the economic downturn that surely awaits us if we lose access to the single market. We could possibly see a total meltdown in the UK financial services sector and that would be an unmitigated disaster. The EU is far from perfect, in fact it is relatively flawed but I worry about losing single market access as much of my business is done there. I suggest you re-plan your business quick instead of crossing your fingers and hoping it goes away i was listening to radio 4 the other week and the guy who's running Tate and Lyle said any sensible run business has already planned ahead regardless of their stance on the vote hes relishing a hard Brexit by the way and his words were he's more excited by the chance to trade with the world without the shackles than he was when his first child was born he says there are a few firms still in denial and that by doing this they will be the ones to blame for their business failure Tate and Lyle deal in sugar - not produced in EU so they pay more in tariffs to import and then export - companies in same situation will be happy with brexit for same reason eg JCB - but companies who do a lot of business with EU will not.
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Post by crapslinger on May 4, 2017 22:01:54 GMT
Ah ....I was just curious , that's a broad spectrum isn't it ? Plastic components, nothing glamorous Dildos ************** makes plastic dicks
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Post by liquidlen on May 4, 2017 22:03:36 GMT
I suggest you re-plan your business quick instead of crossing your fingers and hoping it goes away i was listening to radio 4 the other week and the guy who's running Tate and Lyle said any sensible run business has already planned ahead regardless of their stance on the vote hes relishing a hard Brexit by the way and his words were he's more excited by the chance to trade with the world without the shackles than he was when his first child was born he says there are a few firms still in denial and that by doing this they will be the ones to blame for their business failure Tate and Lyle deal in sugar - not produced in EU so they pay more in tariffs to import and then export - companies in same situation will be happy with brexit for same reason eg JCB - but companies who do a lot of business with EU will not. Exactly. I get called a europhile for wanting to remain when the reality is i'm finding the trade tough enough as it is, just to keep our operation profitable and paying my staff. Europe is our biggest market and it's the same for hundreds of thousands of other SME's up and down the UK. This Brexit is going to hurt our economy in a way that many people just don't understand or even contemplate if they're not running a business or trading directly within the EU. It worries me to bits and now i'm getting told to re-plan otherwise i'm an idiot by a Brexiteer. When you finance plant for the European market, market your products in several European languages through a EU-wide reseller network, you can't just opt out of 12 years hard graft and re-tool for a whole new customer base in Russia or Africa. Think on.
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Post by numpty40 on May 4, 2017 22:06:18 GMT
I suggest you re-plan your business quick instead of crossing your fingers and hoping it goes away i was listening to radio 4 the other week and the guy who's running Tate and Lyle said any sensible run business has already planned ahead regardless of their stance on the vote hes relishing a hard Brexit by the way and his words were he's more excited by the chance to trade with the world without the shackles than he was when his first child was born he says there are a few firms still in denial and that by doing this they will be the ones to blame for their business failure Re-plan my business? I can't make my continental customers magically re-appear in the UK. What do you suggest I do? Get your arse in gear and take advantage of the exchange rate instead of moaning your arse off on here 24 hours a day about Brexit
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 22:08:28 GMT
Plastic components, nothing glamorous Dildos ************** makes plastic dicks That's purely speculation Carps , I'm happy with plastic components .....
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Post by liquidlen on May 4, 2017 22:15:10 GMT
Re-plan my business? I can't make my continental customers magically re-appear in the UK. What do you suggest I do? Get your arse in gear and take advantage of the exchange rate instead of moaning your arse off on here 24 hours a day about Brexit Some of our metallic component parts cross the channel three times before we can use them. And my arse is in gear; I was in Belgium this lunchtime and the first bite to eat I got was 5.30pm back at home. You clearly don't understand much about Euro trading.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 22:18:07 GMT
Get your arse in gear and take advantage of the exchange rate instead of moaning your arse off on here 24 hours a day about Brexit Some of our metallic component parts cross the channel three times before we can use them. And my arse is in gear; I was in Belgium this lunchtime and the first bite to eat I got was 5.30pm back at home. You clearly don't understand much about Euro trading. Euro star ?
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Post by crapslinger on May 4, 2017 22:23:12 GMT
Some of our metallic component parts cross the channel three times before we can use them. And my arse is in gear; I was in Belgium this lunchtime and the first bite to eat I got was 5.30pm back at home. You clearly don't understand much about Euro trading. Euro star ? Tardis
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 22:24:24 GMT
Tardis Didn't think of that
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 22:26:19 GMT
Get your arse in gear and take advantage of the exchange rate instead of moaning your arse off on here 24 hours a day about Brexit Some of our metallic component parts cross the channel three times before we can use them. And my arse is in gear; I was in Belgium this lunchtime and the first bite to eat I got was 5.30pm back at home. You clearly don't understand much about Euro trading. Your affairs are quite clearlr well organised though ? .....otherwise you couldn't spend so much time on here ?
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Post by numpty40 on May 4, 2017 22:27:38 GMT
Get your arse in gear and take advantage of the exchange rate instead of moaning your arse off on here 24 hours a day about Brexit Some of our metallic component parts cross the channel three times before we can use them. And my arse is in gear; I was in Belgium this lunchtime and the first bite to eat I got was 5.30pm back at home. You clearly don't understand much about Euro trading. You registered on this site 3 weeks ago and you've made 400 posts. Just thought your time could be better spent on your business considering how fucked you consider it to be
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 22:31:31 GMT
Some of our metallic component parts cross the channel three times before we can use them. And my arse is in gear; I was in Belgium this lunchtime and the first bite to eat I got was 5.30pm back at home. You clearly don't understand much about Euro trading. You registered on this site 3 weeks ago and you've made 400 posts. Just thought your time could be better spent on your business considering how fucked you consider it to be
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Post by crapslinger on May 4, 2017 22:32:41 GMT
Some of our metallic component parts cross the channel three times before we can use them. And my arse is in gear; I was in Belgium this lunchtime and the first bite to eat I got was 5.30pm back at home. You clearly don't understand much about Euro trading. You registered on this site 3 weeks ago and you've made 400 posts. Just thought your time could be better spent on your business considering how fucked you consider it to be when you have a tardis like ************** it gives you so much more down time to spend on the EE board of the Oatcake
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 22:35:04 GMT
You registered on this site 3 weeks ago and you've made 400 posts. Just thought your time could be better spent on your business considering how fucked you consider it to be when you have a tardis like ************** it gives you so much more down time to spend on the EE board of the Oatcake Don't knock it ....It's very handy when you have to nip over to Belgium at lunchtime .....you can be home for tea
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 22:37:58 GMT
You registered on this site 3 weeks ago and you've made 400 posts. Just thought your time could be better spent on your business considering how fucked you consider it to be when you have a tardis like ************** it gives you so much more down time to spend on the EE board of the Oatcake You aren't taking this thread seriously are you ?
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Post by essexstokey on May 4, 2017 22:48:31 GMT
Tate and Lyle deal in sugar - not produced in EU so they pay more in tariffs to import and then export - companies in same situation will be happy with brexit for same reason eg JCB - but companies who do a lot of business with EU will not. Exactly. I get called a europhile for wanting to remain when the reality is i'm finding the trade tough enough as it is, just to keep our operation profitable and paying my staff. Europe is our biggest market and it's the same for hundreds of thousands of other SME's up and down the UK. This Brexit is going to hurt our economy in a way that many people just don't understand or even contemplate if they're not running a business or trading directly within the EU. It worries me to bits and now i'm getting told to re-plan otherwise i'm an idiot by a Brexiteer. When you finance plant for the European market, market your products in several European languages through a EU-wide reseller network, you can't just opt out of 12 years hard graft and re-tool for a whole new customer base in Russia or Africa. Think on. The additional point is that the standards and measurements that are applied throughout Europe are the same and businesses work to this including workers rites etc. If we are outside of Europe, Europe can put invisible barriers up for example if you look on some goods you see a green dot this means that a products packaging can be disposed of in European bins companies have to pay for this and this results in goods becoming dearer and uncompetitive. Europe can also change standards of goods or specifications and outside we will not have any say. As an operations manager I understand both the complexity of European standard and health and safety requirements both at home and in Europe and understand that any barriers to trade can make us uncompetitive and price our businesses out of the market Because we have moved to a service economy those type of jobs can be easily transported anywhere because we have a smaller manufacturing base the raw materials will cost us more then the finished goods cost more to export making our remaining industry uncompetitive to go for other markets we need to pay increased transport costs and also cope with more competition from companies in a better position to trade this again will make us uncompetitive in these new markets I've just be accused of being a wind up merchant for posting on the labour vote thread that's the problem on here you show your knowledge of a subject and are attacked without people doing there research on topics then go into a hissy fit because they aren't getting there own way its time some people either put up or shut up as your ignorance is making you look idiotic Do your research before spouting off about something you know nothing about
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Post by numpty40 on May 4, 2017 23:05:01 GMT
Exactly. I get called a europhile for wanting to remain when the reality is i'm finding the trade tough enough as it is, just to keep our operation profitable and paying my staff. Europe is our biggest market and it's the same for hundreds of thousands of other SME's up and down the UK. This Brexit is going to hurt our economy in a way that many people just don't understand or even contemplate if they're not running a business or trading directly within the EU. It worries me to bits and now i'm getting told to re-plan otherwise i'm an idiot by a Brexiteer. When you finance plant for the European market, market your products in several European languages through a EU-wide reseller network, you can't just opt out of 12 years hard graft and re-tool for a whole new customer base in Russia or Africa. Think on. The additional point is that the standards and measurements that are applied throughout Europe are the same and businesses work to this including workers rites etc. If we are outside of Europe, Europe can put invisible barriers up for example if you look on some goods you see a green dot this means that a products packaging can be disposed of in European bins companies have to pay for this and this results in goods becoming dearer and uncompetitive. Europe can also change standards of goods or specifications and outside we will not have any say. As an operations manager I understand both the complexity of European standard and health and safety requirements both at home and in Europe and understand that any barriers to trade can make us uncompetitive and price our businesses out of the market Because we have moved to a service economy those type of jobs can be easily transported anywhere because we have a smaller manufacturing base the raw materials will cost us more then the finished goods cost more to export making our remaining industry uncompetitive to go for other markets we need to pay increased transport costs and also cope with more competition from companies in a better position to trade this again will make us uncompetitive in these new markets I've just be accused of being a wind up merchant for posting on the labour vote thread that's the problem on here you show your knowledge of a subject and are attacked without people doing there research on topics then go into a hissy fit because they aren't getting there own way its time some people either put up or shut up as your ignorance is making you look idiotic Do your research before spouting off about something you know nothing about I think your first paragraph illustrates exactly why we voted for Brexit
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2017 23:06:33 GMT
Exactly. I get called a europhile for wanting to remain when the reality is i'm finding the trade tough enough as it is, just to keep our operation profitable and paying my staff. Europe is our biggest market and it's the same for hundreds of thousands of other SME's up and down the UK. This Brexit is going to hurt our economy in a way that many people just don't understand or even contemplate if they're not running a business or trading directly within the EU. It worries me to bits and now i'm getting told to re-plan otherwise i'm an idiot by a Brexiteer. When you finance plant for the European market, market your products in several European languages through a EU-wide reseller network, you can't just opt out of 12 years hard graft and re-tool for a whole new customer base in Russia or Africa. Think on. The additional point is that the standards and measurements that are applied throughout Europe are the same and businesses work to this including workers rites etc. If we are outside of Europe, Europe can put invisible barriers up for example if you look on some goods you see a green dot this means that a products packaging can be disposed of in European bins companies have to pay for this and this results in goods becoming dearer and uncompetitive. Europe can also change standards of goods or specifications and outside we will not have any say. As an operations manager I understand both the complexity of European standard and health and safety requirements both at home and in Europe and understand that any barriers to trade can make us uncompetitive and price our businesses out of the market Because we have moved to a service economy those type of jobs can be easily transported anywhere because we have a smaller manufacturing base the raw materials will cost us more then the finished goods cost more to export making our remaining industry uncompetitive to go for other markets we need to pay increased transport costs and also cope with more competition from companies in a better position to trade this again will make us uncompetitive in these new markets I've just be accused of being a wind up merchant for posting on the labour vote thread that's the problem on here you show your knowledge of a subject and are attacked without people doing there research on topics then go into a hissy fit because they aren't getting there own way its time some people either put up or shut up as your ignorance is making you look idiotic Do your research before spouting off about something you know nothing about I didn't accuse you of being a wind up merchant ....I asked you if you were ....a subtle difference , you earlier cast doubts upon my intellect .....let me tell you mate you do yourself no favours at all with some of the things you post on here ....don't ridicule others when you are clearly a little light on what's going on yourself ..and I mean that in the nicest possible way before you take offence
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Post by liquidlen on May 5, 2017 2:26:06 GMT
Some of our metallic component parts cross the channel three times before we can use them. And my arse is in gear; I was in Belgium this lunchtime and the first bite to eat I got was 5.30pm back at home. You clearly don't understand much about Euro trading. You registered on this site 3 weeks ago and you've made 400 posts. Just thought your time could be better spent on your business considering how fucked you consider it to be Thankyou for your wonderful advice but I think you'd perhaps be better off minding your own business and not guessing about the state of someone else's. When I need advice from you Numpty, i'll ask for it. But thanks for your concern
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Post by liquidlen on May 5, 2017 2:30:54 GMT
Exactly. I get called a europhile for wanting to remain when the reality is i'm finding the trade tough enough as it is, just to keep our operation profitable and paying my staff. Europe is our biggest market and it's the same for hundreds of thousands of other SME's up and down the UK. This Brexit is going to hurt our economy in a way that many people just don't understand or even contemplate if they're not running a business or trading directly within the EU. It worries me to bits and now i'm getting told to re-plan otherwise i'm an idiot by a Brexiteer. When you finance plant for the European market, market your products in several European languages through a EU-wide reseller network, you can't just opt out of 12 years hard graft and re-tool for a whole new customer base in Russia or Africa. Think on. The additional point is that the standards and measurements that are applied throughout Europe are the same and businesses work to this including workers rites etc. If we are outside of Europe, Europe can put invisible barriers up for example if you look on some goods you see a green dot this means that a products packaging can be disposed of in European bins companies have to pay for this and this results in goods becoming dearer and uncompetitive. Europe can also change standards of goods or specifications and outside we will not have any say. As an operations manager I understand both the complexity of European standard and health and safety requirements both at home and in Europe and understand that any barriers to trade can make us uncompetitive and price our businesses out of the market Because we have moved to a service economy those type of jobs can be easily transported anywhere because we have a smaller manufacturing base the raw materials will cost us more then the finished goods cost more to export making our remaining industry uncompetitive to go for other markets we need to pay increased transport costs and also cope with more competition from companies in a better position to trade this again will make us uncompetitive in these new markets I've just be accused of being a wind up merchant for posting on the labour vote thread that's the problem on here you show your knowledge of a subject and are attacked without people doing there research on topics then go into a hissy fit because they aren't getting there own way its time some people either put up or shut up as your ignorance is making you look idiotic Do your research before spouting off about something you know nothing about There are quite a number of posters on this board who purport to having a degree of expertise on a number of subjects, but the reality is they have less than they'd like us to think - it's basic human insecurity. We all blag it a little bit if we are honest, it's all part of the fun.
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Post by liquidlen on May 5, 2017 2:39:01 GMT
Some of our metallic component parts cross the channel three times before we can use them. And my arse is in gear; I was in Belgium this lunchtime and the first bite to eat I got was 5.30pm back at home. You clearly don't understand much about Euro trading. Your affairs are quite clearlr well organised though ? .....otherwise you couldn't spend so much time on here ? Yes, of course i'm organised. And i'm enjoying the election chatter on here as well...there's plenty of time for both.
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Post by harryburrows on May 5, 2017 3:38:41 GMT
The additional point is that the standards and measurements that are applied throughout Europe are the same and businesses work to this including workers rites etc. If we are outside of Europe, Europe can put invisible barriers up for example if you look on some goods you see a green dot this means that a products packaging can be disposed of in European bins companies have to pay for this and this results in goods becoming dearer and uncompetitive. Europe can also change standards of goods or specifications and outside we will not have any say. As an operations manager I understand both the complexity of European standard and health and safety requirements both at home and in Europe and understand that any barriers to trade can make us uncompetitive and price our businesses out of the market Because we have moved to a service economy those type of jobs can be easily transported anywhere because we have a smaller manufacturing base the raw materials will cost us more then the finished goods cost more to export making our remaining industry uncompetitive to go for other markets we need to pay increased transport costs and also cope with more competition from companies in a better position to trade this again will make us uncompetitive in these new markets I've just be accused of being a wind up merchant for posting on the labour vote thread that's the problem on here you show your knowledge of a subject and are attacked without people doing there research on topics then go into a hissy fit because they aren't getting there own way its time some people either put up or shut up as your ignorance is making you look idiotic Do your research before spouting off about something you know nothing about I didn't accuse you of being a wind up merchant ....I asked you if you were ....a subtle difference , you earlier cast doubts upon my intellect .....let me tell you mate you do yourself no favours at all with some of the things you post on here ....don't ridicule others when you are clearly a little light on what's going on yourself ..and I mean that in the nicest possible way before you take offence No you don't 🤗
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 5:40:17 GMT
Ask Tate and Lyle mate I don't sell sugar. Oh well if your so insular you'll only do business with the eu and you're not interested in the rest of the world you'll have to cross your fingers and hope May gets a good deal ....which she'll only get if the country gets behind her Other than that you'll have to do what the pots and miners did......re-train and become a painter and decorator or a window cleaner
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 5, 2017 6:13:30 GMT
when you have a tardis like ************** it gives you so much more down time to spend on the EE board of the Oatcake Don't knock it ....It's very handy when you have to nip over to Belgium at lunchtime .....you can be home for tea I love Brussels ( please try to contribute to Jez's thread "Stoke City's greatest gardener".. ..it does help in his rehabilitation), particularly the St Catherine's Square area, although over the years the steps of the Church have incressingly become occupied by some 'undesirables' . Sadly many of the elder residents lament what has happened to their city in recent history. The EU conglomerate is a fascinitating somewhat state of the art, surreal bubble, providing a great cafe culture lifestyle for our leaders, but disassociated and isolated from old Brussels.....one old lady was actually in genuine tears at the demise of her city. And there was real fear of the Molenbeek area.This was confirmed by some employees of the EU, a few years back two members of the UK and Danish group said to me that they had lived their for over 10 years and had only got to know one Brusselonian.
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Post by liquidlen on May 5, 2017 6:18:40 GMT
I don't sell sugar. Oh well if your so insular you'll only do business with the eu and you're not interested in the rest of the world you'll have to cross your fingers and hope May gets a good deal ....which she'll only get if the country gets behind her Other than that you'll have to do what the pots and miners did......re-train and become a painter and decorator or a window cleaner I simply love your vision for the future of England. Thanks for the tips MATE
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 6:39:17 GMT
Oh well if your so insular you'll only do business with the eu and you're not interested in the rest of the world you'll have to cross your fingers and hope May gets a good deal ....which she'll only get if the country gets behind her Other than that you'll have to do what the pots and miners did......re-train and become a painter and decorator or a window cleaner I simply love your vision for the future of England. Thanks for the tips MATE Well if you can't look beyond the tip of your nose
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