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Post by ryan4england on Jun 4, 2016 14:30:03 GMT
maybe it's ridiculous to you, but maybe it would be more ridiculous for me to bothered what you think? imo an injury to Arnautovic and we'd of easily been in the bottom third, we couldn't score, we could'nt defend. For most of the season the only thing we were decent at was passing a ball to each other, slowly. What do I want? heres another ridiculous few comments for you to digest 1) A team that looks like they give a shit 2) A defence that can defend 3) an attack that gets goals 4) A manager that will change it if it's clearly not working 5) a shit start living up to the theory that it's for the benefit of a strong end to the season, not 4 consecutive 4-0 defeats 6) To sign players that Roy Keane would call players that can play a mans game 7) Strong home form (Again) or even any home form 8) being clued up enough to break down teams instead of being clueless because they dont attack us so we can play the counter Shall I go on? I see you mentioned Roy Keane there, possibly as bad a manager you can imagine. A fantastic player though, a winner that knows steel & comittment is as important as flair. His interview with sky the other day was refreshing
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Post by ryan4england on Jun 4, 2016 14:33:45 GMT
Ryan you did miss the big one Finishing 9th three years on the spin better than ever In our history for three successive years . Ok there are hits and misses but in the round there is an improvement . However I do agree there are some ares of concern which need addressing . 9th? , it's 9th ffs it's a decent campaign it's hardly epic. It says we held our own, that's it.
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Post by ryan4england on Jun 4, 2016 14:38:54 GMT
maybe it's ridiculous to you, but maybe it would be more ridiculous for me to bothered what you think? imo an injury to Arnautovic and we'd of easily been in the bottom third, we couldn't score, we could'nt defend. For most of the season the only thing we were decent at was passing a ball to each other, slowly. What do I want? heres another ridiculous few comments for you to digest 1) A team that looks like they give a shit 2) A defence that can defend 3) an attack that gets goals 4) A manager that will change it if it's clearly not working 5) a shit start living up to the theory that it's for the benefit of a strong end to the season, not 4 consecutive 4-0 defeats 6) To sign players that Roy Keane would call players that can play a mans game 7) Strong home form (Again) or even any home form 8) being clued up enough to break down teams instead of being clueless because they dont attack us so we can play the counter Shall I go on? I see you mentioned Roy Keane there, possibly as bad a manager you can imagine. really, he flew sunderland up to promotion. His standards are high I'd expect he would do a good job at a top club with top players more than a lower club because he expects the players to performas well as he and his man utd teams did. He wouldn't be making excuses for players thats for certain, more are needed like this imo
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2016 14:40:25 GMT
Ryan you did miss the big one Finishing 9th three years on the spin better than ever In our history for three successive years . Ok there are hits and misses but in the round there is an improvement . However I do agree there are some ares of concern which need addressing . 9th? , it's 9th ffs it's a decent campaign it's hardly epic. It says we held our own, that's it. You sound like a right spoilt brat, from where we were not so long ago, finishing 9th in the premier league 3 years in a row is a great achievement.
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Post by ryan4england on Jun 4, 2016 14:47:23 GMT
9th? , it's 9th ffs it's a decent campaign it's hardly epic. It says we held our own, that's it. You sound like a right spoilt brat, from where we were not so long ago, finishing 9th in the premier league 3 years in a row is a great achievement. that's bollocks, we had the squad this season to do better according to near enough everybody, the manager didn't get the best out of his squad. Winners arn't happy with mediocre, mediocre is happy with mediocre. We were lapping it up at the start of the season saying we had more champions league medals than arsenal etc, now people just accept 4 4-0 spankings., if that had of happened under Pulis he'd of been crucified. If Hughes had used the squad to it's full potential, been good at set-pieces (or even practising them would be a start) and not ignoring them we would of finished higher. It should be classed as negligence Only complacency has you ignoring areas of play that win & lose you points. What do you think of his transfer buisness so far?
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Post by blurtonboy on Jun 4, 2016 14:53:56 GMT
Not greet news a team below us pulling off a stunning coup and while one above us has a problem they have a pretty good record at managerial change It's going to be a very demanding summer and ferociously competitive league come August . Everton now a real problem for players in our market . Sorry to be a bit aggressive, but will you just Fuck Off.
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Post by ryan4england on Jun 4, 2016 14:57:17 GMT
16:45 onwards, class Keane Class! tell it like it is
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2016 14:58:28 GMT
Not greet news a team below us pulling off a stunning coup and while one above us has a problem they have a pretty good record at managerial change It's going to be a very demanding summer and ferociously competitive league come August . Everton now a real problem for players in our market . Sorry to be a bit aggressive, but will you just Fuck Off. A few people on here have wanted to say that I would imagine!.
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Post by thebet365 on Jun 4, 2016 15:09:16 GMT
You sound like a right spoilt brat, from where we were not so long ago, finishing 9th in the premier league 3 years in a row is a great achievement. that's bollocks, we had the squad this season to do better according to near enough everybody, the manager didn't get the best out of his squad. Winners arn't happy with mediocre, mediocre is happy with mediocre. We were lapping it up at the start of the season saying we had more champions league medals than arsenal etc, now people just accept 4 4-0 spankings., if that had of happened under Pulis he'd of been crucified. If Hughes had used the squad to it's full potential, been good at set-pieces (or even practising them would be a start) and not ignoring them we would of finished higher. It should be classed as negligence Only complacency has you ignoring areas of play that win & lose you points. What do you think of his transfer buisness so far? Hi Mr Cameron. Do us a favour, it's bad enough us having to listen to your remain campaign bullshit everyday, dunna start trying talk football it's just as bad in fact no its worse.
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Post by thehoof on Jun 4, 2016 15:14:28 GMT
While RK is a good manager, he has won nothing, the same as Hughes. In fact Southampton maintained 6th position, and didn't improve their final spot from the year before. I believe only 5 teams bettered their finish of season 14/15. It's not about complacency, but it is about the fact that the natural desire to continually improve, sometimes does involve a period of treading water. Southampton didn't even qualify out of the group stages in the Europa league, so I am not convinced that Koeman is actually a tactical superstar.
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Post by ryan4england on Jun 4, 2016 15:15:42 GMT
that's bollocks, we had the squad this season to do better according to near enough everybody, the manager didn't get the best out of his squad. Winners arn't happy with mediocre, mediocre is happy with mediocre. We were lapping it up at the start of the season saying we had more champions league medals than arsenal etc, now people just accept 4 4-0 spankings., if that had of happened under Pulis he'd of been crucified. If Hughes had used the squad to it's full potential, been good at set-pieces (or even practising them would be a start) and not ignoring them we would of finished higher. It should be classed as negligence Only complacency has you ignoring areas of play that win & lose you points. What do you think of his transfer buisness so far? Hi Mr Cameron. Do us a favour, it's bad enough us having to listen to your remain campaign bullshit everyday, dunna start trying talk football it's just as bad in fact no its worse. You know when you're speaking the truth theres no counter argument it's just snide remarks returned
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Post by werrington on Jun 4, 2016 16:47:07 GMT
Apologies...Bottom third is still a ridiculous comment. A simple question for you - what exactly do you want? maybe it's ridiculous to you, but maybe it would be more ridiculous for me to bothered what you think? imo an injury to Arnautovic and we'd of easily been in the bottom third, we couldn't score, we could'nt defend. For most of the season the only thing we were decent at was passing a ball to each other, slowly. What do I want? heres another ridiculous few comments for you to digest 1) A team that looks like they give a shit 2) A defence that can defend 3) an attack that gets goals 4) A manager that will change it if it's clearly not working 5) a shit start living up to the theory that it's for the benefit of a strong end to the season, not 4 consecutive 4-0 defeats 6) To sign players that Roy Keane would call players that can play a mans game 7) Strong home form (Again) or even any home form 8) being clued up enough to break down teams instead of being clueless because they dont attack us so we can play the counter Shall I go on? I think Barcelona is the team for you
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Post by ryan4england on Jun 4, 2016 16:53:28 GMT
maybe it's ridiculous to you, but maybe it would be more ridiculous for me to bothered what you think? imo an injury to Arnautovic and we'd of easily been in the bottom third, we couldn't score, we could'nt defend. For most of the season the only thing we were decent at was passing a ball to each other, slowly. What do I want? heres another ridiculous few comments for you to digest 1) A team that looks like they give a shit 2) A defence that can defend 3) an attack that gets goals 4) A manager that will change it if it's clearly not working 5) a shit start living up to the theory that it's for the benefit of a strong end to the season, not 4 consecutive 4-0 defeats 6) To sign players that Roy Keane would call players that can play a mans game 7) Strong home form (Again) or even any home form 8) being clued up enough to break down teams instead of being clueless because they dont attack us so we can play the counter Shall I go on? I think Barcelona is the team for you I don't. Those above are the basics of a successful team, are we saying our crop and manager arn't able to do basics?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 4, 2016 21:53:41 GMT
Blurton boy sorro
Aggressive ????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Post by nutterpotter on Jun 4, 2016 21:54:34 GMT
Apparently Saints want Howe or Emery
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 4, 2016 22:00:20 GMT
Howe to Southampton is an interesting one he won't move from Bournemouth/ Poole area for all sorts of reasons so that's One of the few upward challenges he could take .
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Post by warringtonstokie on Jun 4, 2016 22:05:56 GMT
Southampton and Swansea have that scouting system where they already have a clear idea who they want their next manager to be
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Post by dutchstokie on Jun 4, 2016 22:13:24 GMT
I see you mentioned Roy Keane there, possibly as bad a manager you can imagine. A fantastic player though, a winner that knows steel & comittment is as important as flair. His interview with sky the other day was refreshing Dear oh dear Ryan - it says something about when you revere a player who intentionally goes out to injure a fellow professional player....and don't come back with 'untrue' as it's been well documented...and don't forget his appaling behaviour regarding one of his own players not having heart for the game- this when the player was carried from the field with a severe heart condition Oh- and leaving his own team in 2002 in the shot at the world cup Yeah - GREAT PLAYER !!!!!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 4, 2016 22:32:47 GMT
It does make you wonder if Koeman is prepared to leave Southampton for Everton, then what would Hughes have done if he had been offered the job?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 4, 2016 22:45:09 GMT
It does make you wonder if Koeman is prepared to leave Southampton for Everton, then what would Hughes have done if he had been offered the job? He'd have been daft to stay imo. With Kenwright in charge I can see the argument as to why someone like Koeman or Hughes would be better staying where they are despite Everton being a much better proposition. He could only take them so far. If this new bloke is as ambitious as it appears it's a no brainer isn't it? Everton are a pretty big club and should be up there as champions league challengers.
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Post by ryan4england on Jun 4, 2016 22:47:50 GMT
A fantastic player though, a winner that knows steel & comittment is as important as flair. His interview with sky the other day was refreshing Dear oh dear Ryan - it says something about when you revere a player who intentionally goes out to injure a fellow professional player....and don't come back with 'untrue' as it's been well documented...and don't forget his appaling behaviour regarding one of his own players not having heart for the game- this when the player was carried from the field with a severe heart condition Oh- and leaving his own team in 2002 in the shot at the world cup Yeah - GREAT PLAYER !!!!! Roy Keane was a great footballer 99.9% Of people will agree you're deluded if you think otherwise. He may of been an arsehole on a few occasions but who hasn't dropped a bollock or three in this life, don't tell me, you?
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Post by ryan4england on Jun 4, 2016 23:00:20 GMT
Lmh would of been on his bike if Everton come in with a good offer, just like we shouldn't hold sentiment if a better manager was attainable, it's business
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Post by dutchstokie on Jun 4, 2016 23:28:08 GMT
Dear oh dear Ryan - it says something about when you revere a player who intentionally goes out to injure a fellow professional player....and don't come back with 'untrue' as it's been well documented...and don't forget his appaling behaviour regarding one of his own players not having heart for the game- this when the player was carried from the field with a severe heart condition Oh- and leaving his own team in 2002 in the shot at the world cup Yeah - GREAT PLAYER !!!!! Roy Keane was a great footballer 99.9% Of people will agree you're deluded if you think otherwise. He may of been an arsehole on a few occasions but who hasn't dropped a bollock or three in this life, don't tell me, you? Well I am happy to be the 0.1% . And regarding dropping bollocks in life, this is making mistakes in life and yes I have- happy to admit it. What Keane did was cynical and unprofessional. If that sits well with you then I will leave that with you. I know you will comment on this so fill your boots.....I can't be arsed anymore
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Post by ukcstokie on Jun 5, 2016 0:45:32 GMT
A thread filled with Benji and Tazi.
Well this will be supportive and positive about our club won't it?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jun 5, 2016 2:00:23 GMT
Ukc Your post actually has more negativity than any I've made on this thread .
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Post by ryan4england on Jun 5, 2016 4:37:09 GMT
A thread filled with Benji and Tazi.[bpr] Well this will be supportive and positive about our club won't it? Call it what you want I'm just pointing out why Hughes won't be leaving stoke for supposed bigger and better things anytime soon. He has aquired a steady ship & kept it steady, nothing more and nothing less or am I missing something? What warrants his links to other clubs exactly? 3 top 10 finishes for a mid table club? The fact the football is toothless at times and we have conceeded on average 2 goals a game since January proves Hughes has a lot to improve wether we finish top 10 or not, I think it could be worse but he could improve us more than he has done
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 5, 2016 7:29:14 GMT
It does make you wonder if Koeman is prepared to leave Southampton for Everton, then what would Hughes have done if he had been offered the job? He'd have been daft to stay imo. With Kenwright in charge I can see the argument as to why someone like Koeman or Hughes would be better staying where they are despite Everton being a much better proposition. He could only take them so far. If this new bloke is as ambitious as it appears it's a no brainer isn't it? Everton are a pretty big club and should be up there as champions league challengers. Yeah I wonder if we hadn't had such a poor start and end to the season, then would we be looking for a new manager right now?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 5, 2016 7:39:19 GMT
He'd have been daft to stay imo. With Kenwright in charge I can see the argument as to why someone like Koeman or Hughes would be better staying where they are despite Everton being a much better proposition. He could only take them so far. If this new bloke is as ambitious as it appears it's a no brainer isn't it? Everton are a pretty big club and should be up there as champions league challengers. Yeah I wonder if we hadn't had such a poor start and end to the season, then would we be looking for a new manager right now? Possibly but if I had to pick between Hughes or Koeman or indeed was offering daft sums to get a manager, I wouldn't go for Hughes. He'd be in the running but I'd just want someone that bit better, like Koeman.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 5, 2016 7:44:12 GMT
Yeah I wonder if we hadn't had such a poor start and end to the season, then would we be looking for a new manager right now? Possibly but if I had to pick between Hughes or Koeman or indeed was offering daft sums to get a manager, I wouldn't go for Hughes. He'd be in the running but I'd just want someone that bit better, like Koeman. That was kind of my point, with an extra couple of wins and a draw at the start of the season and a couple of extra wins at the end, instead of the terrible form we did show and we would have finished above Southampton. Which would possibly have created the perception that Hughes was at that level.
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Post by nutterpotter on Jun 5, 2016 7:45:43 GMT
Possibly but if I had to pick between Hughes or Koeman or indeed was offering daft sums to get a manager, I wouldn't go for Hughes. He'd be in the running but I'd just want someone that bit better, like Koeman. That was kind of my point, with an extra couple of wins and a draw at the start of the season and a couple of extra wins at the end, instead of the terrible form we did show and we would have finished above Southampton. Which would possibly have created the perception that Hughes was at that level. I think the fact that Hughes is British counts against him too. Not a 'sexy' enough name.
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