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Post by sufolkstokie on Jul 26, 2016 8:48:11 GMT
Do some of you realise that for the vast majority of modern day footballers, this is a multi pound money making business and nothing else? IF he moves, even just for money, I don't get the hate towards him? If he stays,, that means we have increased his wages and if he goes he has increased his wages probably even more. Loyalty stops at the fans for most clubs and luckily for us, the Chairman which is very rare nowadays.
Anyways he has not gone yet
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 8:49:15 GMT
Because he is a greedy bastard. He's going to leave in order to be paid more money. If he leaves to a team playing European football, I'll accept it as that was what was stated at first. If not - he can get fucked. You can get fucked. He hasn't gone anywhere yet, but you already pulled the trigger. You were asked a simple question, why can't you wait till to see what happens before sticking the boot in? Because you are a brain-shy knob, that's why. You seem to be very upset. I will have my own opinion, you can have yours. If you don't like it - eat shit. |
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Post by Bowyer83 on Jul 26, 2016 8:49:16 GMT
Please tell me where Arnie has ever even hinted he wants to move to Everton? What is more disgraceful and petulant is you making comments on our top scorer of last season with no foundation of fact. Well it seems to be reported by a few media outlets now so if he does go then I stand by what I said,he was player of the season but this was mainly due to the injury crisis we had last year.I'm sure stoke have made him a reasonable offer as they also want him to stay,so to me it's about money and not football on this occasion What happens if we have another season of injuries and Arnie as gone? Who says we wouldn't need the same determination and attitude to help save our season. Letting him go imo would be a mistake, he is a game changer and on his day pure class. |
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Post by thebet365 on Jul 26, 2016 8:49:35 GMT
Please tell me where Arnie has ever even hinted he wants to move to Everton? What is more disgraceful and petulant is you making comments on our top scorer of last season with no foundation of fact. Well it seems to be reported by a few media outlets now so if he does go then I stand by what I said,he was player of the season but this was mainly due to the injury crisis we had last year.I'm sure stoke have made him a reasonable offer as they also want him to stay,so to me it's about money and not football on this occasion Every media outlet reporting it are just basing it on the original report from Austria. It's what papers/media do when sport is thin on the ground with news. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Jul 26, 2016 8:50:12 GMT
Far too many are jumping the gun at this point, he hasn't gone anywhere yet, and even if he does he doesn't deserve some of the bile and negativity I've seen from some posters on this thread. Well said |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 26, 2016 8:50:24 GMT
If, If, Fucking if. Stop living in a hypothetical world. We both know it's going to happen. You know nothing and I know nothing on the Arnie's future, that's what I do know. |
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Post by crownmeking on Jul 26, 2016 8:50:43 GMT
Please tell me where Arnie has ever even hinted he wants to move to Everton? What is more disgraceful and petulant is you making comments on our top scorer of last season with no foundation of fact. Well it seems to be reported by a few media outlets now so if he does go then I stand by what I said,he was player of the season but this was mainly due to the injury crisis we had last year.I'm sure stoke have made him a reasonable offer as they also want him to stay,so to me it's about money and not football on this occasion Again, since you didn't answer the first time - "Please tell me where Arnie has ever even hinted he wants to move to Everton" |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jul 26, 2016 8:50:52 GMT
This is all part of the circus that is Modern Football,
I hope he does not go just yet because he is one of the few players we have with any real physical power and strength in attack , also his goals and assists will be hard to replace from another wide player.
However if he does we just move on , I have enjoyed watching him at Stoke even though he has frustrated me a lot sometimes but if he goes I will wish him well , applaud him when he comes back and hope we find a better player .
I doubt he would do better at Everton than he has here but we will see . I think he needs to be a big fish in a small pond to thrive .
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Post by themistocles on Jul 26, 2016 8:51:46 GMT
People need to prepare themselves ....
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Post by Jimmyg on Jul 26, 2016 8:52:15 GMT
Well it seems to be reported by a few media outlets now so if he does go then I stand by what I said,he was player of the season but this was mainly due to the injury crisis we had last year.I'm sure stoke have made him a reasonable offer as they also want him to stay,so to me it's about money and not football on this occasion he was player of the season due to the injury crisis ..... ???? Righto... butland and shawcross to name 2 |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 26, 2016 8:52:47 GMT
Record turnout up Sir Stan for Fight Club this evening I would suggest..
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Post by Bowyer83 on Jul 26, 2016 8:53:18 GMT
You can get fucked. He hasn't gone anywhere yet, but you already pulled the trigger. You were asked a simple question, why can't you wait till to see what happens before sticking the boot in? Because you are a brain-shy knob, that's why. You seem to be very upset. I will have my own opinion, you can have yours. If you don't like it - eat shit. Players contracts today are highly paid that's just the way it is. If he wants big money he's no different from any other footballer it's the nature of the beast. In fairness he hasn't left yet so to call him a greedy bastard is a bit soon. |
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Post by crownmeking on Jul 26, 2016 8:53:34 GMT
You can get fucked. He hasn't gone anywhere yet, but you already pulled the trigger. You were asked a simple question, why can't you wait till to see what happens before sticking the boot in? Because you are a brain-shy knob, that's why. You seem to be very upset. I will have my own opinion, you can have yours. If you don't like it - eat shit. I am upset with assholes like you. Yes you can have your opinion, and I can call you out on it, when it is complete bullshit. |
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Post by lordb on Jul 26, 2016 8:55:18 GMT
The contract we are offering has a very high release clause and he doesn't want it to be that high. The extra money isn't as big a deal as it is made out to be. Interesting. However if that's the sticking point then it's still a money issue rather than a football One. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 8:55:21 GMT
You seem to be very upset. I will have my own opinion, you can have yours. If you don't like it - eat shit. I am upset with assholes like you. Yes you can have your opinion, and I can call you out on it, when it is complete bullshit. And when it's not bullshit, and he leaves to a team with no Champions League football, you will then join me in calling him a greedy bastard. |
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Post by miggo on Jul 26, 2016 8:55:37 GMT
If arnie goes the transfer window for Stoke at that point would be a disaster. We currently need a CB , striker and reserve keeper If arnie goes. Another winger Can't see us signing another keeper we have 3 already. |
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Post by Jimmyg on Jul 26, 2016 8:58:50 GMT
Well it seems to be reported by a few media outlets now so if he does go then I stand by what I said,he was player of the season but this was mainly due to the injury crisis we had last year.I'm sure stoke have made him a reasonable offer as they also want him to stay,so to me it's about money and not football on this occasion What happens if we have another season of injuries and Arnie as gone? Who says we wouldn't need the same determination and attitude to help save our season. Letting him go imo would be a mistake, he is a game changer and on his day pure class. No saying let him go by any means but he's reluctant to sign a new contract then it must mean he's looking elsewhere and imo he's not going to get an offer from a top side like he thinks. |
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Post by andylgr on Jul 26, 2016 9:00:13 GMT
Whilst Everton are historically a more successful club than ours, it would be disappointing to potentially lose him to a club who we are competing with for that top 8 finish in the league. I suspect he was expecting to move to a bigger club than Everton though. Money talks and Everton are clearly making a big push, but do his wage demands justify us keeping him on last seasons performances? I think I'd say yes.
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Post by potterpaul on Jul 26, 2016 9:00:38 GMT
Unless something happens before next friendly, our next clue to what's happening with Arnie will be the next line up in USA. Until then nobody knows jack shit
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Post by Biblical on Jul 26, 2016 9:00:52 GMT
I am upset with assholes like you. Yes you can have your opinion, and I can call you out on it, when it is complete bullshit. And when it's not bullshit, and he leaves to a team with no Champions League football, you will then join me in calling him a greedy bastard. Give your head a wobble mate. If he goes, and he goes because he will be earning more money then he goes with my blessing because there's not many footballers who would turn down the opportunity to earn more money. The likes of Bojan, Shaqiri etc have been prepared to come here because we've stumped up the money for them, it's just how football works. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 9:02:49 GMT
And when it's not bullshit, and he leaves to a team with no Champions League football, you will then join me in calling him a greedy bastard. Give your head a wobble mate. If he goes, and he goes for because he had the potential to earn more money then he goes with my blessing because there's not many footballers who would turn down the opportunity to earn more money. The likes of Bojan, Shaqiri etc have been prepared to come here because we've stumped up the money for them, it's just how football works. So, you're ok with the story all the time being, he wants to better himself - play in Europe all this horseshit for him to potentially leave to a team that have finished lower than us the past two seasons? And I cant call him a greedy bastard? |
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Post by gogogadget on Jul 26, 2016 9:03:16 GMT
I have no information to say why, but I really can't see him leaving, really.
I believe the contract will be signed before the weekend.
Hope so anyway
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Post by gogogadget on Jul 26, 2016 9:03:41 GMT
I have no information to say why, but I really can't see him leaving, really.
I believe the contract will be signed before the weekend.
Hope so anyway
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Post by Jimmyg on Jul 26, 2016 9:04:21 GMT
Well it seems to be reported by a few media outlets now so if he does go then I stand by what I said,he was player of the season but this was mainly due to the injury crisis we had last year.I'm sure stoke have made him a reasonable offer as they also want him to stay,so to me it's about money and not football on this occasion Again, since you didn't answer the first time - "Please tell me where Arnie has ever even hinted he wants to move to Everton" I did say potentially in my post of you read it |
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Post by bmstoke on Jul 26, 2016 9:05:08 GMT
I am upset with assholes like you. Yes you can have your opinion, and I can call you out on it, when it is complete bullshit. And when it's not bullshit, and he leaves to a team with no Champions League football, you will then join me in calling him a greedy bastard. I've just left the company I've worked for for 6 years to go to another one in the same industry for more money and,I feel, better career prospects. Am I a greedy bastard? |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 26, 2016 9:06:04 GMT
I am upset with assholes like you. Yes you can have your opinion, and I can call you out on it, when it is complete bullshit. And when it's not bullshit, and he leaves to a team with no Champions League football, you will then join me in calling him a greedy bastard. But why will that make him a greedy bastard? What allegiance does he have to Stoke City? He's a (very well) paid employee and if he can get more money from another employer then fair play. If a competitor to my firm offered me more money to go and work for them on the same terms and conditions I'd be off if my current firm couldn't or wouldn't match it. I've a duty to my family to do the best I can for them. It doesn't make me a greedy bastard. I'd rather Arnie didn't go but if he does the destination is totally irrelevant. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 9:06:13 GMT
All I've got to say is bollocks!
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Post by Gods on Jul 26, 2016 9:07:35 GMT
I have no information to say why, but I really can't see him leaving, really. I believe the contract will be signed before the weekend. Hope so anyway I've no info either but my sense is the opposite. He's off, he's promised himself he is off so off he is. Not so sure about the money thing but Koeman and Everton will be selling the club hard to him, not just the money but the potential, the trophy cabinet, not this season for Europe but the next 2 and 3 seasons after that. They have won a lot of shit down the years and will feel they can do so again. |
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Post by baltipiesmuggler on Jul 26, 2016 9:07:43 GMT
Give your head a wobble mate. If he goes, and he goes for because he had the potential to earn more money then he goes with my blessing because there's not many footballers who would turn down the opportunity to earn more money. The likes of Bojan, Shaqiri etc have been prepared to come here because we've stumped up the money for them, it's just how football works. So, you're ok with the story all the time being, he wants to better himself - play in Europe all this horseshit for him to potentially leave to a team that have finished lower than us the past two seasons? And I cant call him a greedy bastard? Oh give over. If he goes because they offered something we weren't prepared to, so be it. Sent from my SM-G928F using proboards |
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Jul 26, 2016 9:08:07 GMT
And when it's not bullshit, and he leaves to a team with no Champions League football, you will then join me in calling him a greedy bastard. I've just left the company I've worked for for 6 years to go to another one in the same industry for more money and,I feel, better career prospects. Am I a greedy bastard? Did you say that you loved the previous company and that if you did leave it would be to perform at a higher level at another company? Did the previous company employ you after you did a shit job at your previous job and gave you the chance to do your job? The answers to those questions will help me decide. |
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