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Post by kidcrewbob on Jul 25, 2016 22:04:29 GMT
When Im driving down to stoke for another match - always at some point in the journey, Im thinking 'whats Arnie going to do today' ? mad as a box of frogs - sulky, brooding but also, possessing simple raw strength and sheer footballing ability right up there at the very top of the premier league he can do absolutely anything he likes on a football pitch when he puts his mind to it - and the opposition can only -stand and watch Hes EXACTLY the type of player I pay my money to go see hes the star - the cherry on top - the enigma - our 'Cantona' I will be gutted if he leaves Absolutely spot-on - we need at least one character whom we can forgive the odd aberration in exchange for inspired, entertaining football......we should just feckin pay him somehow - lump sum, re-signing on fee, free access to the monkey forest.....whatever it takes! To sell him to who I see as direct, pretty even competitors for top 10 makes no sense - abroad maybe but I don't want to see him down here in blue playing for Ted Robbins.... |
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Post by efc on Jul 25, 2016 22:09:01 GMT
I agree mate all ifs and buts right now, the problem we have is we are targetting players that CL clubs are also in for so it's going to be hit and miss I think.I apologise if it sounds like I'm being arrogant in that post it's just annoying for Everton fans when clubs like Southampton (and no disrespect to them) and some of your fans on twitter give it the bigun about how they are a much bigger club etc. on the back of 2 seasons when we had one of the leagues worst managers at the helm. Historically/success wise we are a big club with a big fanbase and are a genuine sleeping giant. The new owner is highly ambitious and whilsy he isn't as rich as an Abramavich he doesn't need to be if he wants to invest big money in the side, he's also highly rumoured to be backed by a Russian oligarch (was also interesting that Moscow papers claimed Usmanov was buying us but then 2 days later Moshiri his long time business partner and fellow arsenal shareholder sold up his stake and bought us) a few respected ITK's have noted how he may sell up at arsenal in the near future and join our board (alongside strangely David Dein who was involved in the deal once Kenwright leaves completely). no one quite knows what is going on at our boardroom level, but in the space of a few months he took Koeman and Walsh from Southampton and the league champions respectively, and has already begun negotiations with the Liverpool mayor regarding a new 55-60k stadium possibly on the docks (the mayor reckons It could be done within 3 years) which would be on the Liverpool skyline and would make anfield look like a backwater stadia. Needless to say these are not the actions of a bloke who isn't afraid to throw money at what he wants. If Arnautovic signs great, if not I hope he signs a new deal at you guys and doesn't try leave on a free, I always find that's a cunts trick to pull on a club who pay your wages. Our own chief executive told me that your £100 million spending money is through the sale of Lukaku and Stones and I've also heard from various Everton fans say that your new owners money is all tied up in his businesses and he hasn't actually got any cash. Who knows though ey? One thing is for sure though, Peter Coates has got his Loch Ness monster sized transfer ding dong out. I highly doubt your chief exe knows how much we have to spend in all fairness mate (I don't either) but I find it highly unlikely we need to sell to buy considering a number of reasons: 1. The club's received a large increase of cash with the TV deal 2. Everton have said Lukaku isn't for sale for less than £50 million, then went to £65 now £75 million, hardly the actions of a club that needs to sell. 3. We wouldn't have been able to tempt Koeman away from 5th placed Southampton without the promise of funds (he could have stayed where he was if he had to sellto buy) 4. And most importantly Kenwright put in a share price agreement in the club's sale that Moshiri had to pledge to invest money into a stadium/transfers for players before he can increase his current 49.9% stake to 75% becoming the sole majority shareholder. Add in we have been rumoured to have had a £25 million bid accepted for Witsel but he's waiting around for Juventus/Napoli and Koulibaly's agent has confirmed we are after him along with Chelsea which wouldn't suprise me as to why Stones hasn't joined City yet maybe we want his replacement in first? |
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Post by kidcrewbob on Jul 25, 2016 22:09:50 GMT
80k a week!!!!!!! Sorry but I'd never ever pay that much to Marko. Class on his day but that's not enough to spend that much a week. Fuck me! Il drive you to Everton Arnie! Diouf is probably on 60k, Shaq provably about 70k and it doesn't bear thinking about what new signings will be on. Our top goalscorer in this day and age is worth that imo. Totally agree - it's a bit daft for folk to say that 80k a week is unacceptable but 50, 60, 70k is "reasonable" - it's all fucking mental money right the way down to the 25k paupers!! So just pay him, load with incentives, loyalty bonuses, and sign-on fee. Bottom line is we have nurtured this raw, mercurial talent and stand to see the best of him that may well propel him to the 120k a week bracket who knows. Plus his goals last season kept us out of the shit let's not forget...... See what transpires |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 25, 2016 22:10:15 GMT
Who the fuck is Koulibaly? 😂😂😂
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Post by StokieNath on Jul 25, 2016 22:14:18 GMT
Good player and I'll be sad to see him go but we can't have mercenaries at the club. 80K a week! Bye Arnie Fair play for the info on Allen mate 👍 You mentioned earlier about a third announcement, you heard owt on Berahino or Arnie? Not on Arnie to be honest, although it looks likely he'll be leaving. Regarding Berahino it looks very likely that we'll put another bid in. |
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Post by kidcrewbob on Jul 25, 2016 22:17:03 GMT
Fair play for the info on Allen mate 👍 You mentioned earlier about a third announcement, you heard owt on Berahino or Arnie? Not on Arnie to be honest, although it looks likely he'll be leaving. Regarding Berahino it looks very likely that we'll put another bid in. ......and would he be "worth" 80k a week ??? |
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Post by stokie1997 on Jul 25, 2016 22:18:44 GMT
Not on Arnie to be honest, although it looks likely he'll be leaving.
Regarding Berahino it looks very likely that we'll put another bid in.[/quote]
I think we'll go all out for Berahino, it's fairly obvious he's the man Hughes wants. I think Arnie will stay with us tbh, unless he goes for money he must see that Everton isn't a step up for him. He's got more chance of playing in Europe at Stoke than Everton.
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Post by wingy11 on Jul 25, 2016 22:20:53 GMT
Arnautovic needs to settle this ASAP stay or go don't matter what he decides but for god sakes make a decision so we can move on
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Post by george2again on Jul 25, 2016 22:32:05 GMT
Am I been stupid here , but areFFP rules still in place? If so teams with new owners with cash to splash ,Everton and Swansea, have to wait until there annual returns tally with their spending ? There would surly have to be increases in revenues other than Sky to allow them to spunk millions with immediate effect ? We have been patient with big transfers and now seem in a position where we can blow a bit of lolly if not why haven't we spunked loads of cash till now? If Swans a went and spent 50 million now they would be in breach ? Not sure how Bournmouth are getting away with it to be honest ?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 25, 2016 22:37:58 GMT
No one gives a fuck about FFP
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Post by george2again on Jul 25, 2016 22:38:33 GMT
Man City get around it by 'laundering' huge amounts of investment in the club allowing them to spend well over what they receive from Sky alone.
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Post by efc on Jul 25, 2016 22:44:53 GMT
Who the fuck is Koulibaly? 😂😂😂 Napoli CB pal, was one of the best defenders in Serie A last season, they want £40-45 million according to the papers so God knows what'll happen with that one! Fans of clubs are impatient, deals take time especially ones involving multiple clubs, Bacca to West Ham is taking an eternity as is Witsel to ourselves, Berahino seems to be another one I think the market is very difficult to operate in unless you can bring in unknowns. It hasn't helped for us that Koeman works alongside a DOF hence why we've brought Walsh in as both Moyes and Martinez had total control of transfers. |
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Post by cheadlestokie on Jul 25, 2016 22:47:17 GMT
Why would Scholes make reference to the importance of keeping our best players if that is not a reference to Arnie and knowledge that we are close to extending his contract?
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Post by mart57 on Jul 25, 2016 22:49:11 GMT
I am told that Arnie signed new contract today. Told by who? Close friend whose son works for the club. He told me about signing Bojan and Diouf before it became public. No reason not to believe him. |
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 25, 2016 22:50:31 GMT
It's no secret that Arnie wants to be at the top, it comes out every time he does an interview and there's nothing wrong with that at all, it's also no secret that Hughes and Stoke have done wonders for him as a player and as a person, he's matured massively and works very well with the coaching staff With all that in mind why go to Everton, they're a bigger club obviously but they're not where he wants to be, why risk leaving a manager and team that "gets" you to go into the unknown if there's no European football their either? New tactics, new coaching staff, new set of players, new everything If a team in Europe hasn't come in for him by now he's surely better picking up where he left off with us last season until there comes a time where they're fighting over him? My sentiments entirely, he is best with us where he is appreciated. As to "bigger club", it is becoming meaningless to me. Newcastle and Villa are bigger clubs and look what happened to them last season. Leeds were a big club and so were a number of others in their time like Sheffield Wednesday. What is more important is to be with a better club; not merely in terms of winning, but also attractive football, a happy atmosphere, and where every individual is appreciated. Money does not equate to happiness, unfortunately the young don't learn that until later in life. |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jul 25, 2016 22:58:26 GMT
Heard an interesting thing on radio about Koeman being the ideal candidate for Everton's continuing ethos of keeping hold of players.
Rather than Southampton's anyone's for sale grow and go approach.
Be surprized if he'll be given the go ahead to take a punt on a 26 year old.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Jul 25, 2016 22:58:56 GMT
Why would Scholes make reference to the importance of keeping our best players if that is not a reference to Arnie and knowledge that we are close to extending his contract? Exactly my thought - Scholes has the satisfaction of two "successes" in one day, via today's very good signings. So, why would he then risk setting himself up for a "fall", by putting it in the press that "it's also important to retain good players"; unless of course he had the comfort of knowing that he was able to score a "hat trick" with a good news item tomorrow? |
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Post by baystokie on Jul 25, 2016 22:59:53 GMT
The two items that don't seem to support the 'on the verge' article are the statements that the £80,000 wages are a hindrance to Everton and he might need to lower his demands plus the fact that the release clause ends on July 31. Put simply that would imply that Arnie has 6 days to lower his demands to Everton's view and Everton can pay £12.5m OR he doesn't lower his demands, Everton refuse to pay them and he stays (at least until the next bid)and his price can rise substantially A rollercoaster 6 days then! |
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Post by samba :) on Jul 25, 2016 23:02:46 GMT
Close friend whose son works for the club. He told me about signing Bojan and Diouf before it became public. No reason not to believe him. Best not be bullshit  |
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Post by Gods on Jul 25, 2016 23:19:34 GMT
The thought of Arnie plying his trade 45 minutes up the road at Everton makes me feel quite sick  I am not sure I have ever quite forgiven those clowns for nicking Adrian Heath and Paul Bracewell. |
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Post by mart57 on Jul 25, 2016 23:31:44 GMT
Don't forget Beagrie and Adams too
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Post by Gods on Jul 25, 2016 23:48:10 GMT
Don't forget Beagrie and Adams too Beagrie definitely, Neil Adams only played a handful of games for Everton over 3 years or so before pissing off to Oldham so I can live with that one. |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jul 25, 2016 23:50:16 GMT
Kendall and Southall spring to mind.
Arnie with the reverse Howard hair do.
Never seen a player kill a lofted ball like Arnie can, but his shooting is largely shocking.
Hope he stays and gets better at it, whatever he does I hope he's checked it out with Eric.
That's my extenuated Haiku to Arnie.
If the journey's over, so be it.
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Post by Gods on Jul 25, 2016 23:53:46 GMT
Kendall and Southall spring to mind. Arnie with the reverse Howard hair do. Never seen a player kill a lofted ball like Arnie can, but his shooting is largely shocking. Hope he stays and gets better at it, whatever he does I hope he's checked it out with Eric. That's my extenuated Haiku to Arnie. If the journey's over, so be it. Coming the other way you mean? Howard Kendall was one of our best ever signings in my Stoke supporting lifetime bar none, absolute quality  |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jul 26, 2016 0:03:58 GMT
Kendall and Southall spring to mind. Arnie with the reverse Howard hair do. Never seen a player kill a lofted ball like Arnie can, but his shooting is largely shocking. Hope he stays and gets better at it, whatever he does I hope he's checked it out with Eric. That's my extenuated Haiku to Arnie. If the journey's over, so be it. Coming the other way you mean? Howard Kendall was one of our best ever signings in my Stoke supporting lifetime bar none, absolute quality Counter balance, yin yang and etc. |
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Post by Stoke711 on Jul 26, 2016 0:45:17 GMT
If he goes I'm choosing a player I don't like for player of the season next year...it's become a curse!!! So if he goes I can hold you personally responsible ;-) |
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Post by houstonsteve on Jul 26, 2016 1:09:30 GMT
If its true I will be extremely sad to see Arnie leave. The blokes an entertainer and was responsible for 40% of our goals last year either directly or through assists. Entertainment AND delivery. Imagine if Bojan, Imbula and possible Saido also contribute in a similar way next season.
I'm sure the club has a plan for both outcomes but I would really miss Arnie. Go on lad, make the right call and extend your stay at Stoke.
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Post by PolPotter on Jul 26, 2016 5:06:22 GMT
He'll not be missed by me. We've seen his sort come and go and they go on to being sod all. Can't stand his body language, hardly ever behaves like he's enjoying football. When he scores a goal it seems so painful to him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2016 5:18:31 GMT
He'll not be missed by me. We've seen his sort come and go and they go on to being sod all. Can't stand his body language, hardly ever behaves like he's enjoying football. When he scores a goal it seems so painful to him. Not as painful as reading posts like this. |
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Post by surreystokie on Jul 26, 2016 5:22:29 GMT
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