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Post by Fred Ferret on Jul 25, 2016 19:27:26 GMT
Arnautovic spent the first period of his Stoke career (remembering that we signed him as something of a big-club failure at the time) frustrating the hell out of any Stoke fan that could bear to watch. A few games in, I can remember thinking "what the f@#k?". He's never really lost that frustrating streak, but as he got to grips with the Premier League, he became more consistent and today I'd say he's our most exciting player when on-song. You'll find him frustrating and exciting in equal measure; you won't find many players stronger on the ball, he's a beast when in the mood. He's got decent vision, just keep him off free kicks :/ He is a sulky so-and-so though, and although he does track back well, 90% of the time he's busting a gut to recover a ball he's lost. He seems to have an over-inflated opinion of himself, which comes across as arrogance, but I like that in a player. For £12.5m some other club, Everton or whoever, will be getting a steal in today's market. He couldn't be trusted anywhere near a Top 4 side, he's too inconsistent, and I genuinely don't think he'd be getting regular football at any of Man City, Man Utd, Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal, even Liverpool. He just 'does things' that top sides wouldn't tolerate. His well-documented 'Champions League Winners' boots are as close as he'll get to the real thing. I love Arnie because he's the first maverick-with-talent we've had for ages. I can't understand a move to Everton, if it's for anything other than money, that's with all due respect because you're at the next level from us, albeit the margins are fine and you've struggled more recently. You're also not the PSG-type club, which I think is where he sees himself. £12.5m isn't a lot these days which makes any potential move all the more galling. It's too early to say "thanks for the memories Arnie" because he's literally not 'done it' for very long with us, and to this day, hasn't proven himself to be the player he thinks he is. All of that said, if he does sign a new contract, it will feel like a new signing, and a good proportion of Stoke fans will be chuffed to bits. Very good appraisal - and I too would love to see him to stay. A real character and would be sadly missed. |
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 25, 2016 19:30:36 GMT
Put it this way, if the deal is as close as reported, he'll be flying straight out of Florida pretty sharpish. No hurry. Remember, he's already signed the contract... |
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Post by sportsman on Jul 25, 2016 19:31:01 GMT
I think that Frustrated By weeds has got it exactly right. A perfect summary of Arnie, on his day brilliant(and he was in quite a few games last year), but when the gloom is with him, he is incredibly frustrating. Given that he isn't being chased by one of Europe's elite (no disrespect to Everton), he needs to sort out where he wants to play - because if his head is not right, he becomes a liability. The sulking heads down, arms in the air, holding the shin, when he loses the ball does my head in. If he signs great, if he doesn't just go out and buy a replacement and enjoy watching it all go pear shaped for him. Don't forget, Everton boo their best players most home games. Arnie will love it! |
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 25, 2016 19:31:06 GMT
Everton are as close to getting into the top four or winning silverware as we are, unless they offer him stupid money then it really would be a sideways move at this stage of his career.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 25, 2016 19:31:39 GMT
Put it this way, if the deal is as close as reported, he'll be flying straight out of Florida pretty sharpish. No hurry. Remember, he's already signed the contract... Free holiday? |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 25, 2016 19:36:50 GMT
I don't think Arnie is going but if he does, who are in the running to be his replacement? (Sobhi won't be thrown straight in)
Chadli?
Mirallas?
Back in for Yarmolenko?
I reckon we'll go big on a replacement if needs be.
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Post by efc on Jul 25, 2016 19:37:02 GMT
Think he would be a very good signing for £12-15 million. Lukaku will stay this year we have effectively priced him out of a move at £75 million,Stones will go for £50-55 million though. Martinez massively mismanaged us the last 2 seasons the current squad had us on 72 points 3 seasons ago which would have had us 2nd/3rd this season just gone. Koeman will instantly improve us and 4-5 good signings will push us on imo. Will be very tight in the top half next season though.
Linked currently with Witsel, Carvalho and Koulibaly (at £40 million!), if we could get those in + a solid GK I would be very happy.
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Coleman Koulibaly Jagielka Baines
Witsel Carvalho
Deulofeu Barkley Arnautovic
Lukaku
Alot of strength in that side we have been weak as piss last season.
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 25, 2016 19:42:05 GMT
I reckon Arni will be under a lot of "pressure" from the team to sign a new contract in the States, particularly when the new guys arrive.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2016 19:42:08 GMT
Think he would be a very good signing for £12-15 million. Lukaku will stay this year we have effectively priced him out of a move at £75 million,Stones will go for £50-55 million though. Martinez massively mismanaged us the last 2 seasons the current squad had us on 72 points 3 seasons ago which would have had us 2nd/3rd this season just gone. Koeman will instantly improve us and 4-5 good signings will push us on imo. Will be very tight in the top half next season though. Linked currently with Witsel, Carvalho and Koulibaly (at £40 million!), if we could get those in + a solid GK I would be very happy. (GK) Coleman Koulibaly Jagielka Baines Witsel Carvalho Deulofeu Barkley Arnautovic Lukaku Alot of strength in that side we have been weak as piss last season. I'm going to be blunt, we don't give a shit what your team will be next season. |
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Post by robboleek on Jul 25, 2016 19:43:40 GMT
Rarely comment on transfer threads but what would be people's thoughts of holding on to him and losing him for zip next year ? He only cost £2 million which a club loses if it sneezes these days. Only thing is which I know you will all point out is do we won't a player who clearly doesn't want to play for us if we block a move ? Just thinking out loud really .....
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 25, 2016 19:44:32 GMT
Think he would be a very good signing for £12-15 million. Lukaku will stay this year we have effectively priced him out of a move at £75 million,Stones will go for £50-55 million though. Martinez massively mismanaged us the last 2 seasons the current squad had us on 72 points 3 seasons ago which would have had us 2nd/3rd this season just gone. Koeman will instantly improve us and 4-5 good signings will push us on imo. Will be very tight in the top half next season though. Linked currently with Witsel, Carvalho and Koulibaly (at £40 million!), if we could get those in + a solid GK I would be very happy. (GK) Coleman Koulibaly Jagielka Baines Witsel Carvalho Deulofeu Barkley Arnautovic Lukaku Alot of strength in that side we have been weak as piss last season. I'm going to be blunt, we don't give a shit what your DREAM team will be next season. Better. |
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Post by badger on Jul 25, 2016 19:45:06 GMT
Think he would be a very good signing for £12-15 million. Lukaku will stay this year we have effectively priced him out of a move at £75 million,Stones will go for £50-55 million though. Martinez massively mismanaged us the last 2 seasons the current squad had us on 72 points 3 seasons ago which would have had us 2nd/3rd this season just gone. Koeman will instantly improve us and 4-5 good signings will push us on imo. Will be very tight in the top half next season though. Linked currently with Witsel, Carvalho and Koulibaly (at £40 million!), if we could get those in + a solid GK I would be very happy. (GK) Coleman Koulibaly Jagielka Baines Witsel Carvalho Deulofeu Barkley Arnautovic Lukaku Alot of strength in that side we have been weak as piss last season. That looks very boom or bust to me, the names mentioned plus Arnie and a keeper will be the thick end of circa £110m even if Stones goes to balance a third to half of it. |
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 25, 2016 19:45:31 GMT
Rarely comment on transfer threads but what would be people's thoughts of holding on to him and losing him for zip next year ? He only cost £2 million which a club loses if it sneezes these days. Only thing is which I know you will all point out is do we won't a player who clearly doesn't want to play for us if we block a move ? Just thinking out loud really ..... I'd 100% go for that. Not sure the scholes out brigade would be too happy . |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2016 19:47:15 GMT
Think he would be a very good signing for £12-15 million. Lukaku will stay this year we have effectively priced him out of a move at £75 million,Stones will go for £50-55 million though. Martinez massively mismanaged us the last 2 seasons the current squad had us on 72 points 3 seasons ago which would have had us 2nd/3rd this season just gone. Koeman will instantly improve us and 4-5 good signings will push us on imo. Will be very tight in the top half next season though. Linked currently with Witsel, Carvalho and Koulibaly (at £40 million!), if we could get those in + a solid GK I would be very happy. (GK) Coleman Koulibaly Jagielka Baines Witsel Carvalho Deulofeu Barkley Arnautovic Lukaku Alot of strength in that side we have been weak as piss last season. Witsel and Carvalho? They're no Allen and Imbula are they now? Come on lad, get a grip of yourself. |
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Post by liathroid on Jul 25, 2016 19:51:38 GMT
has Percy heard anything
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Jul 25, 2016 19:52:15 GMT
Fingers crossed he stays. Doing a WBA isn't the answer. I think we're better than that.
Treat him well and we'll have a better chance of him staying.
Scholes in.
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Post by crownmeking on Jul 25, 2016 19:54:19 GMT
We have an attachment to Arnie, but in the cold light of day 15 million euros is not to be scoffed at for a player (in the final year of his contract) who believes he's bigger and better than Stoke. As a previous poster said, he probably didn't have Everton in mind when he was angling for a move elsewhere. In the meantime (following a dreadful Euro campaign), he's probably convinced himself he needs a fresh challenge and will go anywhere just to get the extra weekly paypacket he thinks he is worth. I'd like to say I wish him well if he does go, but being truthful, I don't. What a load of bollocks. |
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Post by boscfc on Jul 25, 2016 19:56:19 GMT
Think he would be a very good signing for £12-15 million. Lukaku will stay this year we have effectively priced him out of a move at £75 million,Stones will go for £50-55 million though. Martinez massively mismanaged us the last 2 seasons the current squad had us on 72 points 3 seasons ago which would have had us 2nd/3rd this season just gone. Koeman will instantly improve us and 4-5 good signings will push us on imo. Will be very tight in the top half next season though. Linked currently with Witsel, Carvalho and Koulibaly (at £40 million!), if we could get those in + a solid GK I would be very happy. (GK) Coleman Koulibaly Jagielka Baines Witsel Carvalho Deulofeu Barkley Arnautovic Lukaku Alot of strength in that side we have been weak as piss last season. Lot of ifs and buts there fella. Be surprised if you got all of those targets through the door. If you do take Arnie off us then I hope you enjoy what he brings. Mercurial talent with a huge dollop of bat shit crazy. I will be gutted if he goes. |
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jul 25, 2016 19:58:51 GMT
Could be the biggest mistake that Arnie makes, but there you go thats football & thats life. Thanks Arnie for everything, but no one player is ever as big as the Club regardless of how much his wage packet is. Sorry to see you go in all honesty, but we all move on....
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Post by samba :) on Jul 25, 2016 19:59:00 GMT
Can all the Everton fans fuck off now please
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Post by werrington on Jul 25, 2016 20:01:06 GMT
Can all the Everton fans fuck off now please Why ? |
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Post by Biblical on Jul 25, 2016 20:04:10 GMT
I don't think he'll go Everton
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Post by samba :) on Jul 25, 2016 20:08:16 GMT
Can all the Everton fans fuck off now please Why ? there is an air of cockyness about them |
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Post by sportsman on Jul 25, 2016 20:09:59 GMT
there is an air of cockyness about them It will make this season all the sweeter mate. |
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Post by werrington on Jul 25, 2016 20:13:03 GMT
there is an air of cockyness about them Is there ?....I can only see them discussing Arnie and their team with him in it and opposing fans add something to a forum Perhaps it's just me then |
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Post by bagman on Jul 25, 2016 20:29:15 GMT
Come on Mr Werrington they're coming on here more interested with telling us how great Everton are than being interested in Arnie (if i didn't know better i might think you've got a soft spot for them) smiley winky thing as you say.
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Post by stokie1997 on Jul 25, 2016 20:32:22 GMT
Anyone heard why Arnies brother was at the training ground
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 25, 2016 20:33:23 GMT
Mirallas who regularly couldn't get in a side that finished below us is better than Arnie who scored 12 goals and had 7 assists and played every game?
Anyone got a newspaper? I could do with checking the date?
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Post by algor on Jul 25, 2016 20:38:01 GMT
there is an air of cockyness about them Is there ?....I can only see them discussing Arnie and their team with him in it and opposing fans add something to a forum Perhaps it's just me then I have no ill will towards Everton fans but posting a team that contains an imaginery keeper, 4 players they don't own and a striker who want's to leave is a bit stupid. When you consider that their new owner is about 15th on the prem club owners rich list I really don't understand why they think they are going to be the next Man City or Chelsea, they are not and they have to pay for a new ground, they are a grand old club but they are not going to catch the top 4 or 5 anytime soon! |
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Post by scfcballers on Jul 25, 2016 20:40:17 GMT
Not sure that this Everton move has any substance. Probably just made up by his agent to drum up some interest? It seems like no one wants him but he wants out.
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