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Post by jezzascfc on Jul 25, 2016 18:48:46 GMT
Berahino is on tour with WBA and will be sold soon enough. Arnie being on tour at present means nothing. His agent/brother being at CW does mean something - either a renewed attempt to get him to accept a new contract for Arnie, or to agree terms for a sale.
Our link to Chadli also suggests we are covering ourselves in case Arnie does go.
Worrying........
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Post by Cast no shadow on Jul 25, 2016 18:49:03 GMT
Evening chaps I come in peace. Any clues from any of your ITK's on this one? None of ours had heard this was true, only that we were making a signing in the next 2 days. No one really seems to know the real Arnautovic. Is he a MOTD player or is he a really good player? We all seem to know our own players and often know how to rate them better than opposing fans. No clue if we have moved for him. With regards to Everton, we have been shit for a couple of years due to Martinez, but before that were always 5-8th every season. We now have now adjusted the club from top to bottom from Moshiri, Koeman and Walsh and will attack the Premier League however it's needed. They will spend big. New stadium very soon and the aim is the league and champions league football very quick. You will see some massive names into Everton over the next few years People in the football circle can't believe it. Even Tony Scholes was questioning it. They are going for it big time. Personally, I don't see where he would fit within our squad if we do sign him. But for the price mentioned, I can see why Koeman would go in for him. Anyway, good luck for the season. The only thing we know is that his brother(also agent) has been to our training complex today, marko himself flew over to orlando yesterday.
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Post by barcaontrent on Jul 25, 2016 18:50:10 GMT
Can't dress it up any way than being an absolute mercenary. Think both teams are about the same level, with us being vastly superior financially. He definitely is going there because they are a big club. He said he wanted to play champions league football and has ended up joining a club that finished in the bottom half, only because they'll pay him more. Didn't think he was loyal to us at all but still very disappointed
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 25, 2016 18:51:51 GMT
Just had a look on the Everton forum and comments about Arnie include him being bang average, a squad filler and remember he has been playing for a nothing club! Classic Everton.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2016 18:51:57 GMT
Evening chaps I come in peace. Any clues from any of your ITK's on this one? None of ours had heard this was true, only that we were making a signing in the next 2 days. No one really seems to know the real Arnautovic. Is he a MOTD player or is he a really good player? We all seem to know our own players and often know how to rate them better than opposing fans. No clue if we have moved for him. With regards to Everton, we have been shit for a couple of years due to Martinez, but before that were always 5-8th every season. We now have now adjusted the club from top to bottom from Moshiri, Koeman and Walsh and will attack the Premier League however it's needed. They will spend big. New stadium very soon and the aim is the league and champions league football very quick. You will see some massive names into Everton over the next few years People in the football circle can't believe it. Even Tony Scholes was questioning it. They are going for it big time. Personally, I don't see where he would fit within our squad if we do sign him. But for the price mentioned, I can see why Koeman would go in for him. Anyway, good luck for the season. Champions league?, so you're going to finish above Man City, Man Utd, Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool etc?
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Post by themistocles on Jul 25, 2016 18:53:37 GMT
12.5 million pound release clause ... fucking dolgums who put that in
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 25, 2016 18:53:54 GMT
Everton or Stoke is sadly an easy choice and it doesn't favour us.
They're a much bigger club and have the money now.
I'd take Mirallas though......
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Post by Fred Ferret on Jul 25, 2016 18:54:24 GMT
Evening chaps I come in peace. Any clues from any of your ITK's on this one? None of ours had heard this was true, only that we were making a signing in the next 2 days. No one really seems to know the real Arnautovic. Is he a MOTD player or is he a really good player? We all seem to know our own players and often know how to rate them better than opposing fans. No clue if we have moved for him. With regards to Everton, we have been shit for a couple of years due to Martinez, but before that were always 5-8th every season. We now have now adjusted the club from top to bottom from Moshiri, Koeman and Walsh and will attack the Premier League however it's needed. They will spend big. New stadium very soon and the aim is the league and champions league football very quick. You will see some massive names into Everton over the next few years People in the football circle can't believe it. Even Tony Scholes was questioning it. They are going for it big time. Personally, I don't see where he would fit within our squad if we do sign him. But for the price mentioned, I can see why Koeman would go in for him. Anyway, good luck for the season. Thanks for the update on the blossoming future of your club and for the advance notice of doom and gloom for anyone encountering Everton ;-). Arni could well be your target - he had a belter of a Euro 2016 and would be top draw for aspirant CL teams. For our own part, we are adding an extra 1860 seats into one of our empty corners, in readiness for when we play CL footy! In the meantime, we have today signed a wonderkid (from the top Egyptian football club), who is apparently six times better than Arni and almost 1 third the price. Happy days - have a good season.
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Post by sportsman on Jul 25, 2016 18:54:26 GMT
Just had a look on the Everton forum and comments about Arnie include him being bang average, a squad filler and remember he has been playing for a nothing club! This is why i don't get the love in with some about Everton on here.These fuckers are some of most deluded in the Prem .So much for the big signings they are going to do with there new money. And they rate Stones at £50m!!!!
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Post by jezzascfc on Jul 25, 2016 18:54:45 GMT
Evening chaps I come in peace. Any clues from any of your ITK's on this one? None of ours had heard this was true, only that we were making a signing in the next 2 days. No one really seems to know the real Arnautovic. Is he a MOTD player or is he a really good player? We all seem to know our own players and often know how to rate them better than opposing fans. No clue if we have moved for him. With regards to Everton, we have been shit for a couple of years due to Martinez, but before that were always 5-8th every season. We now have now adjusted the club from top to bottom from Moshiri, Koeman and Walsh and will attack the Premier League however it's needed. They will spend big. New stadium very soon and the aim is the league and champions league football very quick. You will see some massive names into Everton over the next few years People in the football circle can't believe it. Even Tony Scholes was questioning it. They are going for it big time. Personally, I don't see where he would fit within our squad if we do sign him. But for the price mentioned, I can see why Koeman would go in for him. Anyway, good luck for the season. Arnie is a match winner on his day - his days have become much more frequent in his time at the club, as he has settled down, started a family and is light years from the "best mate of Balotelli" image of his youth. He is less of a luxury player now, fights for possession, tracks back, is strong and physical on the ball, cuts in to be a goal threat and is the epitome of the modern inverted winger (a right footed left winger). Given the looney prices this summer, 12.5m is a very good deal for a player of his ability coming into the best days of his playing career. He will be a big loss if he goes.
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Post by theevertonforum on Jul 25, 2016 18:54:46 GMT
Evening chaps I come in peace. Any clues from any of your ITK's on this one? None of ours had heard this was true, only that we were making a signing in the next 2 days. No one really seems to know the real Arnautovic. Is he a MOTD player or is he a really good player? We all seem to know our own players and often know how to rate them better than opposing fans. No clue if we have moved for him. With regards to Everton, we have been shit for a couple of years due to Martinez, but before that were always 5-8th every season. We now have now adjusted the club from top to bottom from Moshiri, Koeman and Walsh and will attack the Premier League however it's needed. They will spend big. New stadium very soon and the aim is the league and champions league football very quick. You will see some massive names into Everton over the next few years People in the football circle can't believe it. Even Tony Scholes was questioning it. They are going for it big time. Personally, I don't see where he would fit within our squad if we do sign him. But for the price mentioned, I can see why Koeman would go in for him. Anyway, good luck for the season. Objectively, as much as I like him and when he's been on song he's been outstanding, I wouldn't say he was better than Mirallas. Has he still got a future at the club? I think he will be transformed under Koeman personally. Fans have been crying out for him to play. He did well at Barnsley (not that it shows alot). I'll just say for the people that don't think we will make top 7 this year - I think you may have a shock on your hands. That's not being big headed about the club - I just know the ambitions of the people now in charge. They have sorted the back office with Koeman, Walsh and Moshiri. They will start to work on the front office from this week.
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Post by badger on Jul 25, 2016 18:56:08 GMT
12.5 million pound release clause ... fucking dolgums who put that in Buying him at £2.5m with a dodgy rep, 5 times the purchase price was decent as we didn't know what we had.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 25, 2016 18:56:10 GMT
Deluded.
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Post by theevertonforum on Jul 25, 2016 18:57:14 GMT
Evening chaps I come in peace. Any clues from any of your ITK's on this one? None of ours had heard this was true, only that we were making a signing in the next 2 days. No one really seems to know the real Arnautovic. Is he a MOTD player or is he a really good player? We all seem to know our own players and often know how to rate them better than opposing fans. No clue if we have moved for him. With regards to Everton, we have been shit for a couple of years due to Martinez, but before that were always 5-8th every season. We now have now adjusted the club from top to bottom from Moshiri, Koeman and Walsh and will attack the Premier League however it's needed. They will spend big. New stadium very soon and the aim is the league and champions league football very quick. You will see some massive names into Everton over the next few years People in the football circle can't believe it. Even Tony Scholes was questioning it. They are going for it big time. Personally, I don't see where he would fit within our squad if we do sign him. But for the price mentioned, I can see why Koeman would go in for him. Anyway, good luck for the season. Champions league?, so you're going to finish above Man City, Man Utd, Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool etc? Maybe not all of them next season, but that is the next goal after European football. He has a 3 year contract and that is what has been placed on his head. Liverpool??? You having a giraffe?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2016 18:57:24 GMT
Everton or Stoke is sadly an easy choice and it doesn't favour us. They're a much bigger club and have the money now. I'd take Mirallas though...... Do they? I'll reserve judgement
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Post by apb1 on Jul 25, 2016 18:57:50 GMT
Objectively, as much as I like him and when he's been on song he's been outstanding, I wouldn't say he was better than Mirallas. Has he still got a future at the club? I think he will be transformed under Koeman personally. Fans have been crying out for him to play. He did well at Barnsley (not that it shows alot). I'll just say for the people that don't think we will make top 7 this year - I think you may have a shock on your hands. That's not being big headed about the club - I just know the ambitions of the people now in charge. They have sorted the back office with Koeman, Walsh and Moshiri. They will start to work on the front office from this week. You were mostly a bit rubbish last year and it's almost inevitable that you'll improve. But a lot of money is being spent by other clubs too and you're way down the pecking order for truly star talent. Personally I wish you'd kept Martinez 😛
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Post by wuzza on Jul 25, 2016 18:58:01 GMT
I must have missed something with this Everton 'takeover' thing. All the newspaper articles I've seen quote him as having resources not disimilar to the Coates family (less if anything). Everton also have the difficult issue of a crumbling stadium to address. Yet suddenly they are going to become one of the League's big spenders - how? The only way it works is if the sell all their assets first I.e Barklay, Stones, Lukaku etc in which case it's hardly a club going forward is it!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2016 18:58:24 GMT
Champions league?, so you're going to finish above Man City, Man Utd, Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool etc? Maybe not all of them next season, but that is the next goal after European football. He has a 3 year contract and that is what has been placed on his head. Liverpool??? You having a giraffe? I would suggest that your first target should be to finish above us.
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Post by jezzascfc on Jul 25, 2016 18:58:29 GMT
Objectively, as much as I like him and when he's been on song he's been outstanding, I wouldn't say he was better than Mirallas. Has he still got a future at the club? I think he will be transformed under Koeman personally. Fans have been crying out for him to play. He did well at Barnsley (not that it shows alot). I'll just say for the people that don't think we will make top 7 this year - I think you may have a shock on your hands. That's not being big headed about the club - I just know the ambitions of the people now in charge. They have sorted the back office with Koeman, Walsh and Moshiri. They will start to work on the front office from this week. A word of advice - come on here to ask about Arnie by all means, but if you come on to big up your club, you will get short shrift.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 25, 2016 18:59:00 GMT
Everton or Stoke is sadly an easy choice and it doesn't favour us. They're a much bigger club and have the money now. I'd take Mirallas though...... I've never really understood how the 'bigger club' thing matters unless it's complemented by greater chance of trophies, greater chances of finishing top 7, or playing in front of vastly more people every week. Not doubting Everton's history or latent support - but not sure any of that is actually there for them at the moment, or will be in the next little window of Arnie's career, certainly enough to override an environment where he's succeeded for the first time in his career But if their owner wants to make a little splash and offer him an obscene contract (and he's probably able to do that because he'd be getting Arnie for less than his market value), he's obviously going to bite. Still not 100% sure I buy this one yet though, although I wouldn't be gobsmacked if it's true.
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 25, 2016 18:59:10 GMT
Everton or Stoke is sadly an easy choice and it doesn't favour us. They're a much bigger club and have the money now. I'd take Mirallas though...... Agree, he's a top class footballer and I've thoroughly enjoyed watching him these last couple of seasons, however Mirallas would soften the blow if a player exchange deal was on the cards!!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 25, 2016 19:00:04 GMT
Everton or Stoke is sadly an easy choice and it doesn't favour us. They're a much bigger club and have the money now. I'd take Mirallas though...... Do they? I'll reserve judgement Even if they weren't the move to Everton from Stoke is a move up for those who have nowt to do with Stoke. Unless Koeman and Walsh have been conned then I can't see them spending other than massively.
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Post by bmstoke on Jul 25, 2016 19:00:24 GMT
Everton or Stoke is sadly an easy choice and it doesn't favour us. They're a much bigger club and have the money now. I'd take Mirallas though...... Do they? I'll reserve judgement They must be doing something right if they manage to con someone out of 50 million for John fucking Stones.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Jul 25, 2016 19:00:47 GMT
Objectively, as much as I like him and when he's been on song he's been outstanding, I wouldn't say he was better than Mirallas. Has he still got a future at the club? I think he will be transformed under Koeman personally. Fans have been crying out for him to play. He did well at Barnsley (not that it shows alot). I'll just say for the people that don't think we will make top 7 this year - I think you may have a shock on your hands. That's not being big headed about the club - I just know the ambitions of the people now in charge. They have sorted the back office with Koeman, Walsh and Moshiri. They will start to work on the front office from this week. That's good to know, your only problem is that we have one of the richest PL club owners looking after us. Remind us, how much is your chap actually worth? Notwithstanding, the above, we've recruited extra secretaries (in the back office) and are buying a new printer and tele for the front office, once we've had it wall papered.
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Post by theevertonforum on Jul 25, 2016 19:00:56 GMT
I think he will be transformed under Koeman personally. Fans have been crying out for him to play. He did well at Barnsley (not that it shows alot). I'll just say for the people that don't think we will make top 7 this year - I think you may have a shock on your hands. That's not being big headed about the club - I just know the ambitions of the people now in charge. They have sorted the back office with Koeman, Walsh and Moshiri. They will start to work on the front office from this week. A word of advice - come on here to ask about Arnie by all means, but if you come on to big up your club, you will get short shrift. Fair enough. Was just giving a bit of background. Personally, I can't see where he will fit in, but I do understand the signing if it is a real one. I can imagine he is a frustrating player, but also one that will get the fans off the seat. How is the big lad you lot signed last year doing? The central midfielder?
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Post by sportsman on Jul 25, 2016 19:01:03 GMT
Objectively, as much as I like him and when he's been on song he's been outstanding, I wouldn't say he was better than Mirallas. Has he still got a future at the club? I think he will be transformed under Koeman personally. Fans have been crying out for him to play. He did well at Barnsley (not that it shows alot). I'll just say for the people that don't think we will make top 7 this year - I think you may have a shock on your hands. That's not being big headed about the club - I just know the ambitions of the people now in charge. They have sorted the back office with Koeman, Walsh and Moshiri. They will start to work on the front office from this week. Maybe, but from what i can remember, your new investor is still quite low in the wealth ranking of premier league clubs, and more importantly, behind a Mr Peter Coates, so if that's the case i wouldn't think you are going to do a citeh, just maybe spend the Stones and lakaku money?
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 25, 2016 19:01:46 GMT
Evening chaps I come in peace. Any clues from any of your ITK's on this one? None of ours had heard this was true, only that we were making a signing in the next 2 days. No one really seems to know the real Arnautovic. Is he a MOTD player or is he a really good player? We all seem to know our own players and often know how to rate them better than opposing fans. No clue if we have moved for him. With regards to Everton, we have been shit for a couple of years due to Martinez, but before that were always 5-8th every season. We now have now adjusted the club from top to bottom from Moshiri, Koeman and Walsh and will attack the Premier League however it's needed. They will spend big. New stadium very soon and the aim is the league and champions league football very quick. You will see some massive names into Everton over the next few years People in the football circle can't believe it. Even Tony Scholes was questioning it. They are going for it big time. Personally, I don't see where he would fit within our squad if we do sign him. But for the price mentioned, I can see why Koeman would go in for him. Anyway, good luck for the season. Who do you think you'll sell Lukaku to?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2016 19:02:04 GMT
I must have missed something with this Everton 'takeover' thing. All the newspaper articles I've seen quote him as having resources not disimilar to the Coates family (less if anything). Everton also have the difficult issue of a crumbling stadium to address. Yet suddenly they are going to become one of the League's big spenders - how? The only way it works is if the sell all their assets first I.e Barklay, Stones, Lukaku etc in which case it's hardly a club going forward is it! Worth £1.3b. Rich yes but not particularly in Premier League terms.....
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 25, 2016 19:02:20 GMT
Everton or Stoke is sadly an easy choice and it doesn't favour us. They're a much bigger club and have the money now. I'd take Mirallas though...... I've never really understood how the 'bigger club' thing matters unless it's complemented by greater chance of trophies, greater chances of finishing top 7, or playing in front of vastly more people every week. Not doubting Everton's history or latent support - but not sure any of that is actually there for them at the moment, or will be in the next little window of Arnie's career, certainly enough to override an environment where he's succeeded for the first time in his career But if their owner wants to make a little splash and offer him an obscene contract (and he's probably able to do that because he'd be getting Arnie for less than his market value), he's obviously going to bite. Still not 100% sure I buy this one yet though, although I wouldn't be gobsmacked if it's true. I think they have the potential tbh. I don't think they'll mess and losing Stones won't be a biggy, Lukaku yes but Koeman and Walsh will more than likely spend it wisely. They've built a good back room staff and have the potential there to make a very good side. I'd make the move all day long.
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Post by george2again on Jul 25, 2016 19:03:40 GMT
Yarmolenko anyone - would be a decent replacement. Chadli, em,,,
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