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Post by sportsman on Jul 24, 2016 12:46:56 GMT
I think Everton are a bigger club than us in pretty much every sense. They certainly have the potential to be top 6 fixtures while we have the potential to be top 10 fixtures. I would say most players and fans would see a move from Stoke to Everton as a step up, not a massive one but a step up all the same. I said everton are bigger than us, but they're not a big club. |
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Post by sportsman on Jul 24, 2016 12:48:05 GMT
So Liverpool aren't a big club either then? They're on the same level as us? Haven't Everton already bid £30m for Witsel and pinched Southampton's manager? Everton have very rich owners now and they will be on the up almost instantly I'll look out for them competing for the title this season. |
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Post by samba :) on Jul 24, 2016 12:50:13 GMT
Everton have very rich owners now and they will be on the up almost instantly I'll look out for them competing for the title this season. they'll be in the champions League in the next three seasons |
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 24, 2016 12:51:02 GMT
I think Everton are a bigger club than us in pretty much every sense. They certainly have the potential to be top 6 fixtures while we have the potential to be top 10 fixtures. I would say most players and fans would see a move from Stoke to Everton as a step up, not a massive one but a step up all the same. I said everton are bigger than us, but they're not a big club. In terms of England I think they are top 6 material which makes them a pretty big club IMO. |
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Post by kustokie on Jul 24, 2016 12:52:09 GMT
Sorry, but I lost the plot over night. Where's it written that Arni is going to Everton?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 12:56:59 GMT
Big club. Little club. We're a bigger club than them. They're a bigger club than us.
Come on. It means nothing. There's no such thing.
A player will look at the money on the table, the chance of winning trophies, the location, might also consider who the manager is and whether the club is well run.
stoke are in the same category as about 12 teams in this league and everton are in the same bracket. I admit history may come into some players reckoning but not many.i bet Arnie doesn't know of the importance of our club in the history of the modern game
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 24, 2016 13:00:02 GMT
So Liverpool aren't a big club either then? They're on the same level as us? Haven't Everton already bid £30m for Witsel and pinched Southampton's manager? Everton have very rich owners now and they will be on the up almost instantly If im right no richer than the coates family? |
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Post by sportsman on Jul 24, 2016 13:10:37 GMT
Everton have very rich owners now and they will be on the up almost instantly If im right no richer than the coates family? Less. |
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Post by sportsman on Jul 24, 2016 13:11:53 GMT
I said everton are bigger than us, but they're not a big club. In terms of England I think they are top 6 material which makes them a pretty big club IMO. Who's your top six this season? |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 24, 2016 13:12:05 GMT
He's a young man from Austria who has been a professional footballer for years, he'll know who they are. It'll come down to potential to win trophies as much as anything. They have about as much potential to win trophies as we do at present ( I.e not a lot but you never know). Maybe he thinks they are about to return to the former glories of the mid-80's but I strongly suspect the move would be entirely based on his agents desire to maximise income without having to disappear to somewhere like China. Nowt wrong in that but it's a shame for us and, being the delicate character he is, it could be a bit of a problem for him too. I think if it was just about money he'd have re-signed with us. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 24, 2016 13:14:14 GMT
So Liverpool aren't a big club either then? They're on the same level as us? Haven't Everton already bid £30m for Witsel and pinched Southampton's manager? Yep, that makes everton massive then. What number is witsel wearing for them? To me Liverpool are way bigger than everton because of what I remember growing up. Again, ask a 20 year old how fantastically big Liverpool are to even a Chelsea now Hang on, I didn't say that's what makes Everton massive, you asked about their finances and I answered your question. By your criteria Liverpool aren't a big club either. Being a big club doesn't mean you have to be constantly fighting for the title. That's way too narrow a definition. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 24, 2016 13:14:37 GMT
In terms of England I think they are top 6 material which makes them a pretty big club IMO. Who's your top six this season? Haven't a clue mate. But I think Everton have a better chance of finishing in the top 6 than we do currently. There's not much between us though. |
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Post by stokiejohnss on Jul 24, 2016 13:18:07 GMT
What about all foreign players having to pass a history of English football and of the team they are joining before signing? ( in English of course !)
No excuse then for not knowing Stoke are in fact a big club , these days at least !
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Post by sportsman on Jul 24, 2016 13:19:34 GMT
Yep, that makes everton massive then. What number is witsel wearing for them? To me Liverpool are way bigger than everton because of what I remember growing up. Again, ask a 20 year old how fantastically big Liverpool are to even a Chelsea now Hang on, I didn't say that's what makes Everton massive, you asked about their finances and I answered your question. By your criteria Liverpool aren't a big club either. Being a big club doesn't mean you have to be constantly fighting for the title. That's way too narrow a definition. Again, read what I said about Liverpool. Evertons finances are less than ours. Anyway, back to Arnie. Leave for anyone other than top four and he'll gets dogs abuse |
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Post by ayem on Jul 24, 2016 13:22:57 GMT
Everton are a big club? Cool. So are Newcastle.
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 24, 2016 13:24:42 GMT
So far everton havent signed anyone (im not counting steklenberg as they released howard) to strenghen their squad and lukaku and stones are targets for other clubs not exactly seeing a step up for anyone at the minute
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Post by sportsman on Jul 24, 2016 13:26:48 GMT
So far everton havent signed anyone (im not counting steklenberg as they released howard) to strenghen their squad and lukaku and stones are targets for other clubs not exactly seeing a step up for anyone at the minute And apparently they're going for title! |
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Post by wuzza on Jul 24, 2016 13:27:21 GMT
They have about as much potential to win trophies as we do at present ( I.e not a lot but you never know). Maybe he thinks they are about to return to the former glories of the mid-80's but I strongly suspect the move would be entirely based on his agents desire to maximise income without having to disappear to somewhere like China. Nowt wrong in that but it's a shame for us and, being the delicate character he is, it could be a bit of a problem for him too. I think if it was just about money he'd have re-signed with us. If it isn't money then it becomes a very questionable decision. Why join a club where the chances of success are only marginally better than where you are now and where you are probably not going to be guaranteed the playing time and 'top-dog' status that you currently have? As has been said, if a title contender was in for him you could readily understand it but if it's an Everton level club then ????? |
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 24, 2016 13:27:29 GMT
Everton are a big club? Cool. So are Newcastle. And leeds and villa so were many years ago bolton and preston its bollocks your as big as your last cpl of seasons no more no less thats why Leicester are hard to factor from relegation survival to champions unexplainable really |
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 24, 2016 13:28:32 GMT
So far everton havent signed anyone (im not counting steklenberg as they released howard) to strenghen their squad and lukaku and stones are targets for other clubs not exactly seeing a step up for anyone at the minute And apparently they're going for title! So are we 😉 |
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Post by sportsman on Jul 24, 2016 13:34:51 GMT
Everton are a big club? Cool. So are Newcastle. And leeds and villa so were many years ago bolton and preston its bollocks your as big as your last cpl of seasons no more no less thats why Leicester are hard to factor from relegation survival to champions unexplainable really Exactly. Ask your grandad and he'll say Preston were a big club. Ask a 10 year old and he'll say everton who? They're shit |
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Post by jonnynico on Jul 24, 2016 13:35:42 GMT
logged on to the oatcake and got the Mersey board, this bloody laptop.
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 24, 2016 13:46:58 GMT
logged on to the oatcake and got the Mersey board, this bloody laptop. Your lucky least you get the right division swear it puts me on onevalefan half the time for all the stoke slagging off |
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Post by dg19531 on Jul 24, 2016 13:54:26 GMT
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 24, 2016 13:56:44 GMT
Everton are a big club? Cool. So are Newcastle. So are Villa, Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday. Makes you realise how lucky we are. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2016 14:00:43 GMT
This has been ongoing since october last year and i´m fed up. The result will be the same
he leaves like Begovic and N´Zonzi. Player of the year i don´t care, leave now.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 24, 2016 14:35:35 GMT
I think if it was just about money he'd have re-signed with us. If it isn't money then it becomes a very questionable decision. Why join a club where the chances of success are only marginally better than where you are now and where you are probably not going to be guaranteed the playing time and 'top-dog' status that you currently have? As has been said, if a title contender was in for him you could readily understand it but if it's an Everton level club then ????? It's all about perception. The perception is that there's potential there to cement themselves - attendances, history, league finishes this century, they're a bigger club. New investment, new manager, it's a project. Koeman has done the same. Not saying it'll happen but looking at it objectively (which isn't Stoke-bashing) you can see why it might be tempting. |
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Post by kustokie on Jul 24, 2016 14:52:21 GMT
Aye up, David. Thanks for that. The original source of the rumor is The Sun. That clinches it, he's off! |
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Post by kustokie on Jul 24, 2016 14:54:27 GMT
This has been ongoing since october last year and i´m fed up. The result will be the same he leaves like Begovic and N´Zonzi. Player of the year i don´t care, leave now. Good job you're not in charge. With that approach, every player who had an agent trying to get the best deal for his client would be off and we'd be left with slim pickings. |
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Post by Theninjabadger on Jul 24, 2016 14:55:24 GMT
Aye up, David. Thanks for that. The original source of the rumor is The Sun. That clinches it, he's off! Might as well pack his cases now. Everyone knows the sun only deal in cold hard facts and they've never been found guilty of making shit up.... |
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