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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 19, 2016 8:18:29 GMT
It is - but Mr H seems to have a lack of faith I guess we'll get a better idea over the summer and/or next season whether that's just because of the season's circumstances or if it's more general. Indeed but when he does play him, it is invariably out of position And then he does not seem to know who to play up front at all which is a tad worrying
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 19, 2016 8:19:44 GMT
8 posts, troll alert. Poor effort. Hey buddy, I'm a season ticket holder just like you. I've been supporting SCFC since the late 1970s. What's your problem? You had 8 posts once. We all have to start somewhere. I do believe Hughesy has to go. Just my opinion. Now go and drink out of that mug made in China. So who you going to replace him with? Season ticket holder? I question whether you're a supporter at all.
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Post by PB1863 on Apr 19, 2016 8:34:31 GMT
Does anybody know what our scouting network is like on a global front? I'm talking more about lower league players as we seem to do ok with youth players.
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Post by kevkj on Apr 19, 2016 8:37:28 GMT
Butland .... Stay Geoff... Stay.. Muni... Go Pieters Dunoo Wolly... Go Arnie...Stay Bojan....dunno Whelan... Stay Crouchy.... Go Sjw..... stay Ryan...stay Joselu.... Go Affelay....stay Charlie.....go Diouf.... stay Ireland....go Bardsley Go Adam Go Tiexeria Go Wislon Go
So basically goodbye to Muniesta,Wooly,Crouch,Bardsley,Joselu,Charlie,Ireland,Tex ,Wilson. Busy summer
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Post by foster on Apr 19, 2016 8:37:50 GMT
Id get rid of: Muniesa. Too unreliable (Edit: Injury related...). Ireland. Too many in his position and not being used Crouch. Ditto. Diouf. The manager has no confidence in him so why keep him? Given. Too old. Wilson. Not good enough. Adam. Not going to be first choice and not reliable enough to keep himself in shape when not in use. Same but there are also plenty I'd sell if a decent enough fee came in.
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Post by nott1 on Apr 19, 2016 11:05:04 GMT
The only players I would feel angry about if they left would be Butland, Shawcross and Whelan. And possibly Afellay. I have no firm evidence for this, but by watching his body language etc, I worry that Ryan is getting very fed up with the chaos that he sees around him. Ryan would go if chased by another team, he must be pissed off!
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Post by foster on Apr 19, 2016 11:19:39 GMT
The only players I would feel angry about if they left would be Butland, Shawcross and Whelan. And possibly Afellay. I have no firm evidence for this, but by watching his body language etc, I worry that Ryan is getting very fed up with the chaos that he sees around him. Ryan would go if chased by another team, he must be pissed off! Ryans the captain and it's one of his responsibilities to sort out the players on the pitch. Our worst displays recently have been when he's played so I doubt very much he would leave, nor is he in a position to even think about something like that.
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Post by upthefud on Apr 19, 2016 11:25:19 GMT
Butland .... Stay
Geoff... Stay.. Muni... Stay. Pieters stay.. Shawcross ... Stay Wolly... Stay Bards ... Dunno Tex .... Go Wilson .... Go
Arnie... Stay contract dependant Shaq ...stay Bojan.... Stay Whelan... Stay Affelay ... Stay Adam ... Go Ireland ... Go Imbula ... Stay
Sjw..... Stay Joselu....stay Diouf.... Stay Crouchy.... Go
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Post by chrisparker on Apr 19, 2016 11:33:08 GMT
The only players I would feel angry about if they left would be Butland, Shawcross and Whelan. And possibly Afellay. I have no firm evidence for this, but by watching his body language etc, I worry that Ryan is getting very fed up with the chaos that he sees around him. Ryan is in no position to get fed up right now because he really was the centre of the chaos yesterday. Cluelessly played Deli Ali onside for the second goal & couldn't get close to Kane throughout the game. Everyone is complaining about Wolly having shocker but Ryan was, if anything, worse.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 11:40:21 GMT
I think the only players of ours that would be sought after by other teams would be Arnie, Butland, maybe Imbula.
I don't think we will be losing anybody.
I hope we can shear off the deadwood in the squad and get in some pace.
No-one can argue with what Hughes has tried to do - on the face of it the Shaqiri signing was superb and no-one disagreed with it on here. It turns out he needs more time and we need more pace/quality to challenge him in the squad
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Post by DelapsWankingArm on Apr 19, 2016 11:43:48 GMT
Haugaard Given Tex Wilson Cameron Adam Ireland Diouf Walters Crouch
All go, massive clear out and build again.
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Post by stokemark on Apr 19, 2016 11:59:30 GMT
Haugaard Given Tex Wilson Cameron Adam Ireland Diouf Walters Crouch All go, massive clear out and build again. Id keep John Walters If money came in for Wolly, Shaq and Joselu Id move them on too (sadly it wont)
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Post by chrisparker on Apr 19, 2016 12:03:54 GMT
Butland - Stay (At this point I'd let him sleep with my missus to keep him here)
Jakob - Stay (i'd give him another season & if he doesn't perform, I'd fuck him off)
Given - Go (He's too old to continue & we need to bring in a solid keeper to challenge Butland's position)
Geoff - Stay (Useful Squad player when our injury toll hits critical level)
Muni - Go (Useless in defence. Doesn't know the first thing about positioning)
Pieters - Stay (On his day, he's a very good defender but he has been shocking for a while now. The truth is we need a younger, faster & hungrier full back to replace Pieters next season. I'd still keep Pieters though as backup)
Shawcross - Stay (A Couple of poor performances don't change the fact that he's the best defender I've ever witnessed in a Stoke shirt & he's still our skipper)
Wolly - Stay (He needs to learn how to run & pass the ball & someone ffs teach him some common sense. When there are 5 players charging at you, you don't try to play your way through them. How hard is it to figure that out? He might be a good backup)
Bards - Stay (Yes he might be 3rd choice right back but if we are to seriously push to the next level we need to tie down some of these players.)
Tex - Go (Manager doesn't trust him & he has done nothing to suggest he's good enough to play in the premier league)
Wilson - Go (He's not strong enough to be a centre back, he's not fast enough to be a full back, he's not smart enough to play in central midfield so what the hell can he do? Useless)
Arnie - (If he doesn't sign a contract by the end of the season, then sell him for a good price & bring in a younger, faster winger in his place. Arnie is a talented bloke but nothing good is going to come out of forcefully keeping him here against his will for another season)
Shaq - Stay (On his day, he's our best player but his days have been few & far between. Needs to start helping his team out defensively & ffs cut down on your weight)
Bojan - Stay (But if we get a reasonable sum of money for him in the summer, I'd be tempted to sell him. Bojan is just not strong enough to play in the premier league & The fact that he doesn't even bother to help his team mates defensively really pisses me off. Then again, on his day, he's brilliant)
Whelan - Stay (He's been a great servant to the club & there's at least one or two more good seasons left in him. He's also a positive presence in the dressing room. But again we need more pace in the team so I'd be tempted to bring in someone younger to challenge his place.)
Affelay - Stay (But only as a squad player. He doesn't offer anything significant going forward & he's also absolutely useless when we're defending).
Adam - Go (Doesn't seem to care about his physique anymore. Keeps putting on a few pounds every time he gets injured)
Ireland - Go (Hasn't done anything to convince me to extend his contract)
Imbula - Stay (He'll come good trust me. Needs to increase stamina levels & learn how to defend but he can be a real asset to the club.)
SJW - Stay (A genuine leader who cares about the club & is willing to give the others an earful when they don't put in a 100% effort. I'd like to keep him here even after he retires. Hughes is walking a fine line with all the foreign players he has signed & it's very important that the club doesn't lose its identity, which is why tying down senior players like Walters, Ryan & Whelan is absolutely essential)
Joselu - Stay (He has had his moments. A decent pre-season should get the best out of him)
Diouf - Go (Needs a minimum of 4 clear cut chances to score a goal & he clearly doesn't possess the clinical striker's touch. The fact that we rejected an offer of 10 million is ridiculous. I would've sold him for half the price.)
Crouchy - Go (Past his time. Great servant to the club but he's just adding to the wage bill at the moment)
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 19, 2016 12:09:19 GMT
Butland - Stay (At this point I'd let him sleep with my missus to keep him here) Geoff - Stay (Useful Squad player when our injury toll begins) Muni - Go (Useless in defence. Doesn't know the first thing about positioning) Pieters - Stay (On his day, he's a very good defender but he has been shocking for a while now. The truth is we need a younger, faster & hungrier full back to replace Pieters next season. I'd still keep Pieters though as backup) Shawcross - Stay (A Couple of poor performances don't change the fact that he's the best defender I've ever witnessed in a Stoke shirt & he's still our skipper) Wolly - Stay (He needs to learn how to run but Bards - Stay (Yes he might be 3rd choice right back but if we are to seriously push to the next level we need to tie down some of these players.) Tex - Go (Manager doesn't trust him & he has done nothing to suggest he's good enough to play in the premier league) Wilson - Go (He's not strong enough to be a centre back, he's not fast enough to be a full back, he's not smart enough to play in central midfield so what the hell can he do? Useless) Arnie - (If he doesn't sign a contract by the end of the season, then sell him for a good price & bring in a younger, faster winger in his place. Arnie is a talented bloke but nothing good is going to come out of forcefully keeping him here against his will for another season) Shaq - Stay (On his day, he's our best player but his days have been few & far between. Needs to start helping his team out defensively & ffs cut down on your weight) Bojan - Stay (But if we get a reasonable sum of money for him in the summer, I'd be tempted to sell him. Bojan is just not strong enough to play in the premier league & The fact that he doesn't even bother to help his team mates defensively really pisses me off. Then again, on his day, he's brilliant) Whelan - Stay (He's been a great servant to the club & there's at least one or two more good seasons left in him. He's also a positive presence in the dressing room Affelay - Stay (But only as a squad player. He doesn't offer anything significant going forward & he's also absolutely useless when we're defending. Adam - Go (Doesn't seem to care about his physique anymore. Keeps putting on a few pounds every time he gets injured) Ireland - Go (Hasn't done anything to convince me to extend his contract) Imbula - Stay (He'll come good trust me. Needs to increase stamina levels & learn how to defend but he's a real asset to the club.) SJW - Stay (A genuine leader who cares about the club & is willing to give the others an earful when they don't put in a 100% effort. I'd like to keep him here even after he retires. Hughes is walking a fine line with all the foreign players he has signed & t' very important that club doesn't lose its identity, which is why tying down senior players like Walters, Ryan & Whelan is absolutely essential) Joselu - Stay (He has had his moments. A decent pre-season should get the best out of him) Diouf - Go (Needs a minimum of 4 clear cut chances to score a goal & he clearly doesn't possess the clinical striker's touch. The fact that we rejected an offer of 10 million is ridiculous. I would've dold him for half the price.) Crouchy - Go (Past his time. Great servant to the club but he's just adding to the wage bill at the moment) How do you know Whelan has a positive presence? Walters cares about the club? Really? Shaq our best player? Not seen anything this season to suggest that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 13:23:53 GMT
Butland - Stay (At this point I'd let him sleep with my missus to keep him here) Jakob - Stay (i'd give him another season & if he doesn't perform, I'd fuck him off) Given - Go (He's too old to continue & we need to bring in a solid keeper to challenge Butland's position) Geoff - Stay (Useful Squad player when our injury toll hits critical level) Muni - Go (Useless in defence. Doesn't know the first thing about positioning) Pieters - Stay (On his day, he's a very good defender but he has been shocking for a while now. The truth is we need a younger, faster & hungrier full back to replace Pieters next season. I'd still keep Pieters though as backup) Shawcross - Stay (A Couple of poor performances don't change the fact that he's the best defender I've ever witnessed in a Stoke shirt & he's still our skipper) Wolly - Stay (He needs to learn how to run & pass the ball & someone ffs teach him some common sense. When there are 5 players charging at you, you don't try to play your way through them. How hard is it to figure that out? He might be a good backup) Bards - Stay (Yes he might be 3rd choice right back but if we are to seriously push to the next level we need to tie down some of these players.) Tex - Go (Manager doesn't trust him & he has done nothing to suggest he's good enough to play in the premier league) Wilson - Go (He's not strong enough to be a centre back, he's not fast enough to be a full back, he's not smart enough to play in central midfield so what the hell can he do? Useless) Arnie - (If he doesn't sign a contract by the end of the season, then sell him for a good price & bring in a younger, faster winger in his place. Arnie is a talented bloke but nothing good is going to come out of forcefully keeping him here against his will for another season) Shaq - Stay (On his day, he's our best player but his days have been few & far between. Needs to start helping his team out defensively & ffs cut down on your weight) Bojan - Stay (But if we get a reasonable sum of money for him in the summer, I'd be tempted to sell him. Bojan is just not strong enough to play in the premier league & The fact that he doesn't even bother to help his team mates defensively really pisses me off. Then again, on his day, he's brilliant) Whelan - Stay (He's been a great servant to the club & there's at least one or two more good seasons left in him. He's also a positive presence in the dressing room. But again we need more pace in the team so I'd be tempted to bring in someone younger to challenge his place.) Affelay - Stay (But only as a squad player. He doesn't offer anything significant going forward & he's also absolutely useless when we're defending). Adam - Go (Doesn't seem to care about his physique anymore. Keeps putting on a few pounds every time he gets injured) Ireland - Go (Hasn't done anything to convince me to extend his contract) Imbula - Stay (He'll come good trust me. Needs to increase stamina levels & learn how to defend but he can be a real asset to the club.) SJW - Stay (A genuine leader who cares about the club & is willing to give the others an earful when they don't put in a 100% effort. I'd like to keep him here even after he retires. Hughes is walking a fine line with all the foreign players he has signed & it's very important that the club doesn't lose its identity, which is why tying down senior players like Walters, Ryan & Whelan is absolutely essential) Joselu - Stay (He has had his moments. A decent pre-season should get the best out of him) Diouf - Go (Needs a minimum of 4 clear cut chances to score a goal & he clearly doesn't possess the clinical striker's touch. The fact that we rejected an offer of 10 million is ridiculous. I would've dold him for half the price.) Crouchy - Go (Past his time. Great servant to the club but he's just adding to the wage bill at the moment) Very fair, well done.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 19, 2016 14:07:38 GMT
The reality is we have a big issue this summer:-
1) Some of the players that we think should go will not go anywhere given the money they are on.
2) Too much change and we will be back to where we were this season starting off very disjointed
3) We may lose at least 1 player who we don't want to
A dilemma
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 19, 2016 14:16:56 GMT
The reality is we have a big issue this summer:- 1) Some of the players that we think should go will not go anywhere given the money they are on. 2) Too much change and we will be back to where we were this season starting off very disjointed 3) We may lose at least 1 player who we don't want to A dilemma Spot on. Real world v Football Manager.
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Post by DelapsWankingArm on Apr 19, 2016 14:37:44 GMT
Haugaard Given Tex Wilson Cameron Adam Ireland Diouf Walters Crouch All go, massive clear out and build again. Id keep John Walters If money came in for Wolly, Shaq and Joselu Id move them on too (sadly it wont) Forgot about Joselu, he can go too
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 19, 2016 14:44:49 GMT
Id keep John Walters If money came in for Wolly, Shaq and Joselu Id move them on too (sadly it wont) Forgot about Joselu, he can go too Out of that lot I can only see Crouch, Walters and Diouf wanting to go if not part of next season's plans - maybe Wilson The rest will be hard to shift and will there be demand for them I disagree with Haggy - needs time to see if he can step up
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Post by jezzascfc on Apr 19, 2016 14:48:00 GMT
If most of you had your way, we'd be left with about 6 senior pros from this season's squad! I agree we need to rethink and strengthen in certain key areas, but let's not throw the baby out with the bath water!
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Post by datguy on Apr 19, 2016 15:25:52 GMT
Butland - Stay (At this point I'd let him sleep with my missus to keep him here) Jakob - Stay (i'd give him another season & if he doesn't perform, I'd fuck him off) Given - Go (He's too old to continue & we need to bring in a solid keeper to challenge Butland's position) Geoff - Stay (Useful Squad player when our injury toll hits critical level) Muni - Go (Useless in defence. Doesn't know the first thing about positioning)Pieters - Stay (On his day, he's a very good defender but he has been shocking for a while now. The truth is we need a younger, faster & hungrier full back to replace Pieters next season. I'd still keep Pieters though as backup) Shawcross - Stay (A Couple of poor performances don't change the fact that he's the best defender I've ever witnessed in a Stoke shirt & he's still our skipper) Wolly - Stay (He needs to learn how to run & pass the ball & someone ffs teach him some common sense. When there are 5 players charging at you, you don't try to play your way through them. How hard is it to figure that out? He might be a good backup) Bards - Stay (Yes he might be 3rd choice right back but if we are to seriously push to the next level we need to tie down some of these players.) Tex - Go (Manager doesn't trust him & he has done nothing to suggest he's good enough to play in the premier league) Wilson - Go (He's not strong enough to be a centre back, he's not fast enough to be a full back, he's not smart enough to play in central midfield so what the hell can he do? Useless) Arnie - (If he doesn't sign a contract by the end of the season, then sell him for a good price & bring in a younger, faster winger in his place. Arnie is a talented bloke but nothing good is going to come out of forcefully keeping him here against his will for another season) Shaq - Stay (On his day, he's our best player but his days have been few & far between. Needs to start helping his team out defensively & ffs cut down on your weight) Bojan - Stay (But if we get a reasonable sum of money for him in the summer, I'd be tempted to sell him. Bojan is just not strong enough to play in the premier league & The fact that he doesn't even bother to help his team mates defensively really pisses me off. Then again, on his day, he's brilliant) Whelan - Stay (He's been a great servant to the club & there's at least one or two more good seasons left in him. He's also a positive presence in the dressing room. But again we need more pace in the team so I'd be tempted to bring in someone younger to challenge his place.) Affelay - Stay (But only as a squad player. He doesn't offer anything significant going forward & he's also absolutely useless when we're defending). Adam - Go (Doesn't seem to care about his physique anymore. Keeps putting on a few pounds every time he gets injured) Ireland - Go (Hasn't done anything to convince me to extend his contract) Imbula - Stay (He'll come good trust me. Needs to increase stamina levels & learn how to defend but he can be a real asset to the club.) SJW - Stay (A genuine leader who cares about the club & is willing to give the others an earful when they don't put in a 100% effort. I'd like to keep him here even after he retires. Hughes is walking a fine line with all the foreign players he has signed & it's very important that the club doesn't lose its identity, which is why tying down senior players like Walters, Ryan & Whelan is absolutely essential) Joselu - Stay (He has had his moments. A decent pre-season should get the best out of him) Diouf - Go (Needs a minimum of 4 clear cut chances to score a goal & he clearly doesn't possess the clinical striker's touch. The fact that we rejected an offer of 10 million is ridiculous. I would've sold him for half the price.) Crouchy - Go (Past his time. Great servant to the club but he's just adding to the wage bill at the moment) I agree with everything except the highlighted part. When Muniesa plays I can't help but think we play better. Pieters is and will be first choice LB next season but Muni should be 2nd in line.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Apr 19, 2016 15:40:15 GMT
Butland .... Stay Glenn J ... Stay Geoff... bench Muni....Go Pieters....bench Wolly....bench Arnie...he will go Shaq ...China Bojan....Stay Whelan...Stay Crouchy....Go Ryan....Stay Joselu....one more season Affelay....stay Charlie.....Go Diouf.... Play or go SJW ..Bench Ireland....Go Imbula....Stay Tex - Go Wilson Go BarDsley Go
I dont know if any U21 s are ready to move up but we are looking at a few new signings which will impact on any possible departures I hope no more than 2 are from overseas we need players who can play here from day one too Sinclair and Ayeu at Villa are both possibles who could add pace to us and Colback at castle is a good lad if they go
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Post by wuzza on Apr 19, 2016 16:02:03 GMT
Butland .... Stay Glenn J ... Stay Geoff... bench Muni....Go Pieters....bench Wolly....bench Arnie...he will go Shaq ...China Bojan....Stay Whelan...Stay Crouchy....Go Ryan....Stay Joselu....one more season Affelay....stay Charlie.....Go Diouf.... Play or go SJW ..Bench Ireland....Go Imbula....Stay Tex - Go Wilson Go BarDsley Go I dont know if any U21 s are ready to move up but we are looking at a few new signings which will impact on any possible departures I hope no more than 2 are from overseas we need players who can play here from day one too Sinclair and Ayeu at Villa are both possibles who could add pace to us and Colback at castle is a good lad if they go I think that's a reasonable assesment of the current squad although I hold on to the probably false hope that Shaq will be better with a pre-season and this year's experience behind him. I maintain though that we really cannot decide on the personnel required to come or go until the management develop any sort of clear idea about the approach we are going to use. We are, this season, just a collection of individuals - very talented in some cases - but doomed to failure because we don't have the right mix or the right tactics.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 19, 2016 16:06:57 GMT
Butland .... Stay Geoff... Stay.. Muni... Stay. Pieters stay.. Shawcross ... Stay Wolly... Stay Bards ... Dunno Tex .... Go Wilson .... Go Arnie... Stay contract dependant Shaq ...stay Bojan.... Stay Whelan... Stay Affelay ... Stay Adam ... Go Ireland ... Go Imbula ... Stay Sjw..... Stay Joselu....stay Diouf.... Stay Crouchy.... Go thank fuck for that...a sensible one!!!!!!! i presume that unlike most on here, you're not writing off our entire squad because of a couple of bad performances recently and remember that up until about 4 weeks ago many on here would have kept a lot of these for our push for europe (which everyone was banging on about at the time) well done you for not being a knicker wetting, pansy flouncebag like a lot on here seem to be over the last week or so!
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Apr 19, 2016 16:09:37 GMT
The only players I would feel angry about if they left would be Butland, Shawcross and Whelan. And possibly Afellay. I have no firm evidence for this, but by watching his body language etc, I worry that Ryan is getting very fed up with the chaos that he sees around him. Ryan is in no position to get fed up right now because he really was the centre of the chaos yesterday. Cluelessly played Deli Ali onside for the second goal & couldn't get close to Kane throughout the game. Everyone is complaining about Wolly having shocker but Ryan was, if anything, worse. he's in every position to go if he wants....didn't you notice that reddipotter has noticed his body language and everything!!! he may as well have just written "FACT!" and that would have been equally as valid. body fucking language why do people go on about that shit? it's a game of football not a fucking segment on This Morning!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 19, 2016 16:11:59 GMT
Butland .... Stay Geoff... Go.. Muni... Dunno. Pieters Stay.. Wolly... Stay Arnie...Stay Shaq ...Stay Bojan....Stay Whelan...Stay Crouchy.... Go Sjw..... Stay Ryan...Stay Joselu....Stay Affelay....Stay (no contract extension) Charlie.....Go Diouf....Go Ireland....Go Joselu....Stay Imbula....Stay Tex - Go
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Post by NassauDave on Apr 19, 2016 16:15:13 GMT
Butland .... Stay Geoff... Stay.. Muni... Stay. Pieters stay.. Wolly... Go Arnie...Must show up EVERY WEEK not every few weeks Shaq ...stay - MUST DO BETTER Bojan....stay Whelan...stay Crouchy.... Go Sjw..... stay Ryan...stay- getting worried Joselu....stay Affelay....stay Charlie.....go Diouf....stay Ireland....go Tex ...go Haugaard - go Mark Hughes - learn to get our pressing game back, and for fucks sake get the team to get the ball forward much faster. Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/256288/summer-clear-out#ixzz46I0kNXg1
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Apr 19, 2016 17:31:40 GMT
Butland .... Stay Glenn J ... Stay Geoff... bench Muni....Go Pieters....bench Wolly....bench Arnie...he will go Shaq ...China Bojan....Stay Whelan...Stay Crouchy....Go Ryan....Stay Joselu....one more season Affelay....stay Charlie.....Go Diouf.... Play or go SJW ..Bench Ireland....Go Imbula....Stay Tex - Go Wilson Go BarDsley Go I dont know if any U21 s are ready to move up but we are looking at a few new signings which will impact on any possible departures I hope no more than 2 are from overseas we need players who can play here from day one too Sinclair and Ayeu at Villa are both possibles who could add pace to us and Colback at castle is a good lad if they go I think that's a reasonable assesment of the current squad although I hold on to the probably false hope that Shaq will be better with a pre-season and this year's experience behind him. I maintain though that we really cannot decide on the personnel required to come or go until the management develop any sort of clear idea about the approach we are going to use. We are, this season, just a collection of individuals - very talented in some cases - but doomed to failure because we don't have the right mix or the right tactics. Shaq for me is like Ireland and Adam a player who belongs in a different era , now you have to be an athlete unless you are a genius like a Pirlo and I can see him doing well in China The Gulf or USA or maybe back home but not in a top league , Hope he proves me wrong but I doubt it , the league will just get faster and stronger next season
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Post by wuzza on Apr 19, 2016 18:06:12 GMT
I think that's a reasonable assesment of the current squad although I hold on to the probably false hope that Shaq will be better with a pre-season and this year's experience behind him. I maintain though that we really cannot decide on the personnel required to come or go until the management develop any sort of clear idea about the approach we are going to use. We are, this season, just a collection of individuals - very talented in some cases - but doomed to failure because we don't have the right mix or the right tactics. Shaq for me is like Ireland and Adam a player who belongs in a different era , now you have to be an athlete unless you are a genius like a Pirlo and I can see him doing well in China The Gulf or USA or maybe back home but not in a top league , Hope he proves me wrong but I doubt it , the league will just get faster and stronger next season I fear you are absolutely right but the nagging thought at the back of my mind is that if there had been more of a direct outlet for his skills in our attacking formation he might have been the player we hoped for.
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Post by milky on Apr 19, 2016 18:21:57 GMT
Butland .... Stay Geoff... Stay.. Muni... Stay. Pieters stay.. Shawcross ... Stay Wolly... Stay Bards ... Dunno Tex .... Go Wilson .... Go Arnie... Stay contract dependant Shaq ...stay Bojan.... Stay Whelan... Stay Affelay ... Stay Adam ... Go Ireland ... Go Imbula ... Stay Sjw..... Stay Joselu....stay Diouf.... Stay Crouchy.... Go This I expect Diouf to go though as it seems the manager has given up on him.
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