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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 8, 2015 21:51:14 GMT
There are posters such as Sheikmomo and Bejaminbiscuit who will take pleasure if we lose tomorrow and be the first to say I told you so which is quite saddening. More made up shit. Take a look at Stokemark, Carpsplayer, st4scfc for the real anti-Stokists Biscuit is a bellend to be fair. Full-on troll.
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Post by discokaraoke on Aug 8, 2015 21:52:44 GMT
Only Sheiky could turn saving £8million plus fee and still getting the player we wanted as a fuck up. You really have no sense of perspective where Scholes is concerned. So missing out on him was part of our 'diligent' plan them. Fuck me you want it every bastard way. Think about what you're saying, in the name of fucking Christ. I thought Benji was the biggest clown on here, i think you should think about what you're saying. The Diouf deal was excellent business by Stoke! Just take your agenda driven opinion of Scholes, and stick it up your big fat hairy arse with the rest of the shit you spout. God i feel better now
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 8, 2015 21:53:12 GMT
Only Sheiky could turn saving £8million plus fee and still getting the player we wanted as a fuck up. You really have no sense of perspective where Scholes is concerned. So missing out on him was part of our 'diligent' plan them. Fuck me you want it every bastard way. Think about what you're saying, in the name of fucking Christ. We offered a decent amount of money (£6 million was it) for a player that was nearing the end of his contract. They either wanted more (but we were reluctant to spend that - which wouldn't have been Scholes decision), or they were trying to convince Diouf to stay. Either way it wasn't a fuck up by Scholes was it? We kept tight and got Diouf without a fee. Was that another fuck up by Scholes? Try engaging brain before ranting bullshit against Scholes.
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Post by malteser68 on Aug 8, 2015 21:53:19 GMT
There are posters such as Sheikmomo and Bejaminbiscuit who will take pleasure if we lose tomorrow and be the first to say I told you so which is quite saddening. thats a very unfair comment. Even I criticize quite a lot but always hope to be proved wrong. Have I been proved wrong last season ? I say depends on how you look at it. Final league stats were of course positive; BUT I believe that a team of our standing can only hope for success in a cup but clearly we did not have a good enough squad to give that particular objective s good shot
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 8, 2015 21:53:36 GMT
I'm worried his non-inclusion in those games will jeopardise our great record against Chelski. Man alive do you talk some shit. Is that the Chelsea we beat at home the season before last ? Yet again you can't articulate a reasoned debate and resort to insults pugsley And you can? I'm recalling the 7 nil and 4 nils mate.
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Post by stokemark on Aug 8, 2015 21:57:46 GMT
There are posters such as Sheikmomo and Bejaminbiscuit who will take pleasure if we lose tomorrow and be the first to say I told you so which is quite saddening. More made up shit. Take a look at Stokemark, Carpsplayer, st4scfc for the real anti-Stokists pleasure ? Are you mad ? I've supported Stoke home and away for 40 years mate and love my club more than you could possibly imagine It's like some sort of bullying is going on on this site whereby you can't have an opinion that may not concur with all in the garden being rosy without being insulted I don't think we have invested well enough in this window so far and am worried that we may lack in some key areas given the loss of some key players Doesn't mean I'm plastic, disloyal, anti- stoke or have Pravda taken over this website ?
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 8, 2015 21:59:07 GMT
So missing out on him was part of our 'diligent' plan them. Fuck me you want it every bastard way. Think about what you're saying, in the name of fucking Christ. We offered a decent amount of money (£6 million was it) for a player that was nearing the end of his contract. They either wanted more (but we were reluctant to spend that - which wouldn't have been Scholes decision), or they were trying to convince Diouf to stay. Either way it wasn't a fuck up by Scholes was it? We kept tight and got Diouf without a fee. Was that another fuck up by Scholes? Try engaging brain before ranting bullshit against Scholes. It could be argued that we got lucky. Diouf was our number one target and we were desperate for more attacking options through the middle and we missed out on him for the sake of a million quid or two.
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Post by liamo on Aug 8, 2015 22:03:09 GMT
More made up shit. Take a look at Stokemark, Carpsplayer, st4scfc for the real anti-Stokists pleasure ? Are you mad ? I've supported Stoke home and away for 40 years mate and love my club more than you could possibly imagine It's like some sort of bullying is going on on this site whereby you can't have an opinion that may not concur with all in the garden being rosy without being insulted I don't think we have invested well enough in this window so far and am worried that we may lack in some key areas given the loss of some key players Doesn't mean I'm plastic, disloyal, anti- stoke or have Pravda taken over this website ? 90% of all fans of every club in the world will say that their club's owners haven't invested enough, we've got a decent squad with good cover and the transfer window is still open Bit of blind optimism goes a long way and at the end of the day it could always be worse, we could support Sunderland
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 8, 2015 22:05:01 GMT
Other clubs being 'difficult to deal with' is a phrase coined by the club itself. T hen you have West Brom marching into Russia and sorting something pretty quickly. Like I say, we must just be unlucky. So how do you know West Brom haven't been sorting this deal for months? But don't let facts get in the way...
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Post by Davef on Aug 8, 2015 22:05:29 GMT
More made up shit. Take a look at Stokemark, Carpsplayer, st4scfc for the real anti-Stokists pleasure ? Are you mad ? I've supported Stoke home and away for 40 years mate and love my club more than you could possibly imagine It's like some sort of bullying is going on on this site whereby you can't have an opinion that may not concur with all in the garden being rosy without being insulted I don't think we have invested well enough in this window so far and am worried that we may lack in some key areas given the loss of some key players Doesn't mean I'm plastic, disloyal, anti- stoke or have Pravda taken over this website ? I don't doubt your commitment. I just think you're wrong when you talk about our first XI as being limited.
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 8, 2015 22:07:45 GMT
We offered a decent amount of money (£6 million was it) for a player that was nearing the end of his contract. They either wanted more (but we were reluctant to spend that - which wouldn't have been Scholes decision), or they were trying to convince Diouf to stay. Either way it wasn't a fuck up by Scholes was it? We kept tight and got Diouf without a fee. Was that another fuck up by Scholes? Try engaging brain before ranting bullshit against Scholes. It could be argued that we got lucky. Diouf was our number one target and we were desperate for more attacking options through the middle and we missed out on him for the sake of a million quid or two. You don't know though. They could have been after £12million? Maybe more? Maybe they just weren't going to do the deal as they wanted Diouf to re-sign?
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 8, 2015 22:11:23 GMT
More made up shit. Take a look at Stokemark, Carpsplayer, st4scfc for the real anti-Stokists pleasure ? Are you mad ? I've supported Stoke home and away for 40 years mate and love my club more than you could possibly imagine It's like some sort of bullying is going on on this site whereby you can't have an opinion that may not concur with all in the garden being rosy without being insulted I don't think we have invested well enough in this window so far and am worried that we may lack in some key areas given the loss of some key players Doesn't mean I'm plastic, disloyal, anti- stoke or have Pravda taken over this website ? He thinks he owns the board, his opinions are the only one's that count, hate to think what he is like in real life what a self opinionated bullying helmet.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 8, 2015 22:14:35 GMT
pleasure ? Are you mad ? I've supported Stoke home and away for 40 years mate and love my club more than you could possibly imagine It's like some sort of bullying is going on on this site whereby you can't have an opinion that may not concur with all in the garden being rosy without being insulted I don't think we have invested well enough in this window so far and am worried that we may lack in some key areas given the loss of some key players Doesn't mean I'm plastic, disloyal, anti- stoke or have Pravda taken over this website ? I don't doubt your commitment. I just think you're wrong when you talk about our first XI as being limited. Maybe limited is the wrong assessment, weakened is debatable! we will see tomorrow then this will become clearer.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 8, 2015 22:18:49 GMT
pleasure ? Are you mad ? I've supported Stoke home and away for 40 years mate and love my club more than you could possibly imagine It's like some sort of bullying is going on on this site whereby you can't have an opinion that may not concur with all in the garden being rosy without being insulted I don't think we have invested well enough in this window so far and am worried that we may lack in some key areas given the loss of some key players Doesn't mean I'm plastic, disloyal, anti- stoke or have Pravda taken over this website ? He thinks he owns the board, his opinions are the only one's that count, hate to think what he is like in real life what a self opinionated bullying helmet. More made up shit. It's a gift you've got. I'm all for opinions mate, especially the ones based on some semblance of what has actually happened and hard evidence. I'm not much for ones that have been formed by making shit up. And as for bullying, behave.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 8, 2015 22:20:18 GMT
I don't doubt your commitment. I just think you're wrong when you talk about our first XI as being limited. Maybe limited is the wrong assessment, weakened is debatable! we will see tomorrow then this will become clearer. Of course we are weaker - WE'VE LOST OUR BEST PLAYER AND THE REPLACEMENTS ARE NOT AS GOOD. Thing is they are not as bad as you make out, AS PROVEN ALST SEASON.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 8, 2015 22:23:01 GMT
The Manager is been backed and will be backed. Do you really think he would have signed a new contract if he thought otherwise? The manager himself said what we have been doing is unsustainable, only 3 months ago. Are you really as fkn clueless as you come across.You're taking everything Hughes has said to the "n"th degree but spiting every signing he makes.Pathetic.
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Post by discokaraoke on Aug 8, 2015 22:24:41 GMT
The Manager is been backed and will be backed. Do you really think he would have signed a new contract if he thought otherwise? The manager himself said what we have been doing is unsustainable, only 3 months ago. I take in everything the manager says and i agree with him. I also believe the club are doing their best to help our manager. I am not concerned in the slightest with the way we are going about our business, if i was, i would express it. Having supported the club since 1968, and seen the good the bad and the ugly, i feel i am pretty well qualified to have a more realistic view in what direction our club is going. Also, Peter Coates said on air, that he has invested 100 million to our club. Now he didn't have to do that, but he did and we are where we are today. We are in good hands and going in the right direction.
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Post by MrMagic on Aug 8, 2015 22:26:44 GMT
I don't doubt your commitment. I just think you're wrong when you talk about our first XI as being limited. Maybe limited is the wrong assessment, weakened is debatable! we will see tomorrow then this will become clearer. Tomorrow shouldn't be the be all and end all but I imagine it will for yourself and a series of other posters (mono not included in that) Various people have been saying for a few years that football will eat itself and the comments on this thread underpin that completely. Having spent half a lifetime watching shit stoke sides in shitty leagues against shitty opposition usually in the rain I cannot get a grip on the complaints about the quality of our position but I guess this is the price you pay for Premier Leauge sucess. As it stands i'm more excited about my 16 Year old sons first game for CSOB U21s tomorrow than I am about our match. Some people are turning us into the kind of bunch of fans that I've always hated.
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Post by Plave on Aug 8, 2015 22:30:40 GMT
Other clubs being 'difficult to deal with' is a phrase coined by the club itself. T hen you have West Brom marching into Russia and sorting something pretty quickly. Like I say, we must just be unlucky. So how do you know West Brom haven't been sorting this deal for months?But don't let facts get in the way... And here essentially lies the problem with these debates. No one here has a clue when these deals begin, what negotiations are involved and what barriers need to be broken to get a deal done. Players are people and are as indecisive as the rest of us, they are also heavily influenced by many hangers on around them, some obviously more than others. Some people here seem to think buying a player is like buying something from Argos. There is no point debating with people with that attitude, might as well shout at the moon.
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 8, 2015 22:33:05 GMT
Maybe limited is the wrong assessment, weakened is debatable! we will see tomorrow then this will become clearer. Tomorrow shouldn't be the be all and end all but I imagine it will for yourself and a series of other posters (mono not included in that) Various people have been saying for a few years that football will eat itself and the comments on this thread underpin that completely. Having spent half a lifetime watching shit stoke sides in shitty leagues against shitty opposition usually in the rain I cannot get a grip on the complaints about the quality of our position but I guess this is the price you pay for Premier Leauge sucess. As it stands i'm more excited about my 16 Year old sons first game for CSOB U21s tomorrow than I am about our match. Some people are turning us into the kind of bunch of fans that I've always hated. The sad thing is - if we lose tomorrow the reaction on here is likely to be pretty bleak. FFS, if we don't equal/beat the 6-1 from last season people will probably be moaning that we're moving backwards.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 8, 2015 22:35:00 GMT
Maybe limited is the wrong assessment, weakened is debatable! we will see tomorrow then this will become clearer. Of course we are weaker - WE'VE LOST OUR BEST PLAYER AND THE REPLACEMENTS ARE NOT AS GOOD. Thing is they are not as bad as you make out, AS PROVEN ALST SEASON. Alst season we had Bego and Zonz in the starting eleven both proven at this level we did exceptionally well despite our injury record, hopefully you are right and I do mean that, if you are not a BULLY as you claim why do you feel the need to shout ?
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Post by Davef on Aug 8, 2015 22:36:42 GMT
I don't doubt your commitment. I just think you're wrong when you talk about our first XI as being limited. Maybe limited is the wrong assessment, weakened is debatable! we will see tomorrow then this will become clearer. No we won't. Butland is replacing Begovic, which was always going to be the case. Van Ginkek or Afellay may replace N'zonzi. The former is is an unknown quantity at this level - though had we paid £10M for him I doubt there'd be an issue. The latter is a top class footballer. We'll probably see Bojan at some point tomorrow. We could've paid £15-20M for a centre half to cover Ryan's absence, but would he have been a better player? We're a good team. Try showing a bit of faith in our players and our manager, and bare in mind that our season doesn't hinge on the opening day.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 8, 2015 22:41:13 GMT
Maybe limited is the wrong assessment, weakened is debatable! we will see tomorrow then this will become clearer. Tomorrow shouldn't be the be all and end all but I imagine it will for yourself and a series of other posters (mono not included in that) Various people have been saying for a few years that football will eat itself and the comments on this thread underpin that completely. Having spent half a lifetime watching shit stoke sides in shitty leagues against shitty opposition usually in the rain I cannot get a grip on the complaints about the quality of our position but I guess this is the price you pay for Premier Leauge sucess. As it stands i'm more excited about my 16 Year old sons first game for CSOB U21s tomorrow than I am about our match. Some people are turning us into the kind of bunch of fans that I've always hated. Hang on a mo I have been supporting Stoke for 48 years, I have been there and seen more bad times than good, the issue for me is we have missed a trick this summer so far, after a fantastic season the club indicated we would strengthen and push on we have weaker starting eleven now than at the end of last season why.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 8, 2015 22:41:47 GMT
So missing out on him was part of our 'diligent' plan them. Fuck me you want it every bastard way. Think about what you're saying, in the name of fucking Christ. We offered a decent amount of money (£6 million was it) for a player that was nearing the end of his contract. They either wanted more (but we were reluctant to spend that - which wouldn't have been Scholes decision), or they were trying to convince Diouf to stay. Either way it wasn't a fuck up by Scholes was it? We kept tight and got Diouf without a fee. Was that another fuck up by Scholes? Try engaging brain before ranting bullshit against Scholes. Thick as fuck.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 8, 2015 22:42:19 GMT
So missing out on him was part of our 'diligent' plan them. Fuck me you want it every bastard way. Think about what you're saying, in the name of fucking Christ. I thought Benji was the biggest clown on here, i think you should think about what you're saying. The Diouf deal was excellent business by Stoke! Just take your agenda driven opinion of Scholes, and stick it up your big fat hairy arse with the rest of the shit you spout. God i feel better now Thick as fuck.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 8, 2015 22:42:50 GMT
Of course we are weaker - WE'VE LOST OUR BEST PLAYER AND THE REPLACEMENTS ARE NOT AS GOOD. Thing is they are not as bad as you make out, AS PROVEN ALST SEASON. Alst season we had Bego and Zonz in the starting eleven both proven at this level we did exceptionally well despite our injury record, hopefully you are right and I do mean that, if you are not a BULLY as you claim why do you feel the need to shout ? I'm emphasising my point until it drops. Bego had a relatively poor season last term and Zonz (who was a superb player for us) was heavily criticised on here. We've replaced Bego with an England Interntional and N'Zonzi with a Dutch International.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 8, 2015 22:42:53 GMT
The manager himself said what we have been doing is unsustainable, only 3 months ago. Are you really as fkn clueless as you come across.You're taking everything Hughes has said to the "n"th degree but spiting every signing he makes.Pathetic. Thick as fuck.
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 8, 2015 22:46:57 GMT
We offered a decent amount of money (£6 million was it) for a player that was nearing the end of his contract. They either wanted more (but we were reluctant to spend that - which wouldn't have been Scholes decision), or they were trying to convince Diouf to stay. Either way it wasn't a fuck up by Scholes was it? We kept tight and got Diouf without a fee. Was that another fuck up by Scholes? Try engaging brain before ranting bullshit against Scholes. Thick as fuck. I think you've just summed up many people's view of you there. As Anthony Watts said: “When you resort to name calling, you’ve lost the argument”.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Aug 8, 2015 22:47:15 GMT
Are you really as fkn clueless as you come across.You're taking everything Hughes has said to the "n"th degree but spiting every signing he makes.Pathetic. Thick as fuck. This is the best ever time to be a Stoke fan,try enjoying it you sad twat.
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Post by discokaraoke on Aug 8, 2015 22:47:47 GMT
More made up shit. Take a look at Stokemark, Carpsplayer, st4scfc for the real anti-Stokists pleasure ? Are you mad ? I've supported Stoke home and away for 40 years mate and love my club more than you could possibly imagine It's like some sort of bullying is going on on this site whereby you can't have an opinion that may not concur with all in the garden being rosy without being insulted I don't think we have invested well enough in this window so far and am worried that we may lack in some key areas given the loss of some key players Doesn't mean I'm plastic, disloyal, anti- stoke or have Pravda taken over this website ? Mark, i'm a old timer myself and want the best. I really believe we are going in the right direction. we have been clever in our business just lately and we are improving, and i'm excited by our new signings. We should be applauding our club not slating it.
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