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Post by trigger on Aug 8, 2015 19:33:37 GMT
Because Hannover owner believed he could make Diouf sign a new contract. He was wrong and he was the one that fucked up, instead of receiving £8mill for a player he got fuck all. And you question Scholes's ability to do his job. If dick Duffer was not the owner he would of been sacked for that kind in incompetence We have a habit of finding these clubs who are 'difficult to deal with' don't we? Must just be bad luck. Either way Diouf does not fit in your description of us diligently sniffing out value. We wanted to splurge on him but failed. Again. Funny how we always find clubs that are difficult to deal with and we take it as gospel, probably find the problems alot closer than we think.
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Post by stokey127 on Aug 8, 2015 19:33:29 GMT
What the fuck has questioning the quality of the window etc got to do with being 'fickle', 'plastic' or 'precious'? 'Moaning' I'll give you but for me its an absolutely awful fucking post. Well you can find fault in anything, and are up there with the biscuit for negativity, you'd find fault if we won the CL, FA cup, League cup and PL in one season, so finding fault in that post wasn't too hard was it? I'm off to s beer festival to pick fault in all the beers Every line of your comment is correct.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 8, 2015 19:42:10 GMT
What the fuck has questioning the quality of the window etc got to do with being 'fickle', 'plastic' or 'precious'? 'Moaning' I'll give you but for me its an absolutely awful fucking post. Well you can find fault in anything, and are up there with the biscuit for negativity, you'd find fault if we won the CL, FA cup, League cup and PL in one season, so finding fault in that post wasn't too hard was it? I'm off to s beer festival to pick fault in all the beers I haven't criticised our brilliant manager once. I wish we would back him more. He deserves it. But keep making things up. Enjoy your ale.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 8, 2015 19:44:38 GMT
What the fuck has questioning the quality of the window etc got to do with being 'fickle', 'plastic' or 'precious'? 'Moaning' I'll give you but for me its an absolutely awful fucking post. I don't think he has specifically fingered you there Sheik has he, unless you feel you would put yourself into the perhaps, over exuberant category? Its not the constructed debates on the threads to specifically cover that subject, its the constant hijacking of every thread with the same agenda & arguments, Huth, Scholes etc?? Again not pigeon holing you personally mate, that would be a debate for another thread I didn't take it particularly personally Pirate. Calling people plastic and questioning their loyalty because they're not swallowing club propaganda is a bit much though. In fact, its utter fucking bollocks.
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Post by discokaraoke on Aug 8, 2015 19:47:06 GMT
Fucking retards. A player value has no reflection on the ability of the player, just the need of the buying club to sign him and the size of his contract left. I would rather sign 50 Bojan's and Diouf's who we diligently scouted knowing we could get a great deal on, than spend £15million on 1 player that another club had a say on if he was sold. That's not what happened with Diouf though is it. We were prepared to pay a largeish fee 12 months previously but as ever when there's a largeish fee involved, we didn't 'get it over the line' which is just Scholesese for 'fucked it up'. Then we get him for free, what's the problem with that? The mind boggles.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 8, 2015 19:47:57 GMT
That article does not fit with the absolute fact that all those mentioned in it, have so far failed to succeed in landing their top three targets of the window. They're talking about a scenario that doesn't actually exist.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 8, 2015 19:48:34 GMT
We have a habit of finding these clubs who are 'difficult to deal with' don't we? Must just be bad luck. Either way Diouf does not fit in your description of us diligently sniffing out value. We wanted to splurge on him but failed. Again. Making shit up again? Repeat it enough times and people may start believing it. Which bit's made up spunky?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 8, 2015 19:49:57 GMT
That's not what happened with Diouf though is it. We were prepared to pay a largeish fee 12 months previously but as ever when there's a largeish fee involved, we didn't 'get it over the line' which is just Scholesese for 'fucked it up'. Then we get him for free, what's the problem with that? The mind boggles. Marc was trying to make out it was part of some great due diligence that it happened that way. Absolute fucking hogwash.
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Post by RAF on Aug 8, 2015 19:55:37 GMT
Then we get him for free, what's the problem with that? The mind boggles. Marc was trying to make out it was part of some great due diligence that it happened that way. Absolute fucking hogwash. I thought self congratulatory would be something you would admire as our last manager was a master in it. How times change. H ;)
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 8, 2015 19:56:37 GMT
Marc was trying to make out it was part of some great due diligence that it happened that way. Absolute fucking hogwash. I thought self congratulatory would be something you would admire as our last manager was a master in it. How times change. H You've quoted the wrong post you bell
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Post by RAF on Aug 8, 2015 20:04:56 GMT
I thought self congratulatory would be something you would admire as our last manager was a master in it. How times change. H ;) You've quoted the wrong post you bell :) That fuckwittery aside I take your response as an agreement! H :)
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 8, 2015 20:09:45 GMT
You've quoted the wrong post you bell That fuckwittery aside I take your response as an agreement! H I loved the last manager and this one old son. I've invited a few people to join me in this joyous proclamation recently, a few have completely shown their arse. Where do you stand?
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Post by RAF on Aug 8, 2015 20:13:57 GMT
That fuckwittery aside I take your response as an agreement! H :) I loved the last manager and this one old son. I've invited a few people to join me in this joyous proclamation recently, a few have completely shown their arse. Where do you stand? ;) That wasn't my point old girl, but for the very boring record again...Pulis did a great job and when he went it was time. Never really took to him but he gave me some great times and I admire him for that. I love Hughes but he certainly hasnt been beyond my criticism as you very well know! H
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Post by discokaraoke on Aug 8, 2015 20:40:44 GMT
I'm happy with our summer business thus far and think we've improved the quality of the squad with very little outlay. We've also significantly strengthened the group of players underneath them for an equally small outlay. I think we've put ourselves in a very strong position to push on with the new TV deal. The side that takes the pitch tomorrow will be weaker than the one that took the pitch 11 weeks ago, that is completely undeniable. That is your opinion, but to say it's undeniable means nobody else's opinion will be considered by you and no discussion is possible. For me, we have a top young goalkeeper who is eager to prove himself against a goalkeeper who knew he was off to Chelsea, so no weaker their. Plus Shay Given by the way. Shawcross wasn't fully fit and we have Geoff Cameron who is far better than people give him credit for. fit and looked the business against Everton playing CB. We have signed a another quality striker in joselu for 6 million. We have Afellay and Van ginkel who both can do the N'zonzi, so in my opinion we are stronger their. Glen Johnson (who played in last years world cup for England) also improves our right back option. For me, we are stronger, but that's not a undeniable opinion but just my opinion.
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Post by discokaraoke on Aug 8, 2015 20:46:46 GMT
Well you can find fault in anything, and are up there with the biscuit for negativity, you'd find fault if we won the CL, FA cup, League cup and PL in one season, so finding fault in that post wasn't too hard was it? I'm off to s beer festival to pick fault in all the beers I haven't criticised our brilliant manager once. I wish we would back him more. He deserves it. But keep making things up. Enjoy your ale. The Manager is been backed and will be backed. Do you really think he would have signed a new contract if he thought otherwise?
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 8, 2015 21:11:21 GMT
Fucking retards. A player value has no reflection on the ability of the player, just the need of the buying club to sign him and the size of his contract left. I would rather sign 50 Bojan's and Diouf's who we diligently scouted knowing we could get a great deal on, than spend £15million on 1 player that another club had a say on if he was sold. That's not what happened with Diouf though is it. We were prepared to pay a largeish fee 12 months previously but as ever when there's a largeish fee involved, we didn't 'get it over the line' which is just Scholesese for 'fucked it up'. Only Sheiky could turn saving £8million plus fee and still getting the player we wanted as a fuck up. You really have no sense of perspective where Scholes is concerned.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 8, 2015 21:12:49 GMT
The side that takes the pitch tomorrow will be weaker than the one that took the pitch 11 weeks ago, that is completely undeniable. That is your opinion, but to say it's undeniable means nobody else's opinion will be considered by you and no discussion is possible. For me, we have a top young goalkeeper who is eager to prove himself against a goalkeeper who knew he was off to Chelsea, so no weaker their. Plus Shay Given by the way. Shawcross wasn't fully fit and we have Geoff Cameron who is far better than people give him credit for. fit and looked the business against Everton playing CB. We have signed a another quality striker in joselu for 6 million. We have Afellay and Van ginkel who both can do the N'zonzi, so in my opinion we are stronger their. Glen Johnson (who played in last years world cup for England) also improves our right back option. For me, we are stronger, but that's not a undeniable opinion but just my opinion. It will be interesting who of the new signings actually start tomorrow, I have a feeling he will not risk playing Wolfy, he may well start VG as he has little option, the biggest risk of all is Johnson who played in last years World Cup (so did Palacios by the way), never rated him he was pretty terrible in the WC, out of favour at Liverpool plus looked unfit and uninterested pre season are we stronger tomorrow will be the acid test.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 8, 2015 21:15:31 GMT
That's not what happened with Diouf though is it. We were prepared to pay a largeish fee 12 months previously but as ever when there's a largeish fee involved, we didn't 'get it over the line' which is just Scholesese for 'fucked it up'. Only Sheiky could turn saving £8million plus fee and still getting the player we wanted as a fuck up. You really have no sense of perspective where Scholes is concerned. So missing out on him was part of our 'diligent' plan them. Fuck me you want it every bastard way. Think about what you're saying, in the name of fucking Christ.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 8, 2015 21:17:30 GMT
I haven't criticised our brilliant manager once. I wish we would back him more. He deserves it. But keep making things up. Enjoy your ale. The Manager is been backed and will be backed. Do you really think he would have signed a new contract if he thought otherwise? The manager himself said what we have been doing is unsustainable, only 3 months ago.
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Post by MrMagic on Aug 8, 2015 21:21:53 GMT
The Independent have Marco Van Ginkle down as our key signing in their club by club review. They even have a large picture of him in our away kit. Shows how shit the Independent journalists are! How can they not know that he's utter shit and a massive disappointment? How can a club seriously replace someone of Steven Nzonzis world class with some no-mark who's only played for the minnows of Vitesse Chelsea & Milan?
The mind fucking boggles
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Post by liamo on Aug 8, 2015 21:29:11 GMT
The Independent have Marco Van Ginkle down as our key signing in their club by club review. They even have a large picture of him in our away kit. Shows how shit the Independent journalists are! How can they not know that he's utter shit and a massive disappointment? How can a club seriously replace someone of Steven Nzonzis world class with some no-mark who's only played for the minnows of Vitesse Chelsea & Milan? The mind fucking boggles Don't be bringing that positivity here, he's shit and will never fill N'zonzi's boots, how many cyclists has he run over? None How many times have we had to kiss his dad's arse to try to convince him to tolerate little old Stoke for one more season? Zero times
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Post by stokemark on Aug 8, 2015 21:33:08 GMT
The Independent have Marco Van Ginkle down as our key signing in their club by club review. They even have a large picture of him in our away kit. Shows how shit the Independent journalists are! How can they not know that he's utter shit and a massive disappointment? How can a club seriously replace someone of Steven Nzonzis world class with some no-mark who's only played for the minnows of Vitesse Chelsea & Milan? The mind fucking boggles I think he will be particularly effective in the two games against Chelsea
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Post by liamo on Aug 8, 2015 21:34:18 GMT
The Independent have Marco Van Ginkle down as our key signing in their club by club review. They even have a large picture of him in our away kit. Shows how shit the Independent journalists are! How can they not know that he's utter shit and a massive disappointment? How can a club seriously replace someone of Steven Nzonzis world class with some no-mark who's only played for the minnows of Vitesse Chelsea & Milan? The mind fucking boggles I think he will be particularly effective in the two games against Chelsea Just like N'zonzi was
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Post by bmstoke on Aug 8, 2015 21:39:06 GMT
The Independent have Marco Van Ginkle down as our key signing in their club by club review. They even have a large picture of him in our away kit. Shows how shit the Independent journalists are! How can they not know that he's utter shit and a massive disappointment? How can a club seriously replace someone of Steven Nzonzis world class with some no-mark who's only played for the minnows of Vitesse Chelsea & Milan? The mind fucking boggles Don't be bringing that positivity here, he's shit and will never fill N'zonzi's boots, how many cyclists has he run over? None How many times have we had to kiss his dad's arse to try to convince him to tolerate little old Stoke for one more season? Zero times He's obviously shit because we haven't spent £15 million on him, we should sign Balotelli, he may be shit but at least he costs real money. We've got to consider the net spend.
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 8, 2015 21:40:28 GMT
Indeed - proof if any were needed that just because money is spent it doesn't automatically have a bearing on the success of the transfer. Agreed, I just don't believe we couldn't of found anyone in 3 years that cost more than £5 million that wasn't better than what we bought in So the objective of the recruitment team is to buy someone over a certain price. Shit. Would I love to do business with you. You: "How much is this car?" Me: "£6,000." You: "I was looking at spending over £10,000". Me: "Hold on, my mistake, it's "£12,000". You: "Well that must mean it's great then, I'll have it..."
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 8, 2015 21:41:55 GMT
The Independent have Marco Van Ginkle down as our key signing in their club by club review. They even have a large picture of him in our away kit. Shows how shit the Independent journalists are! How can they not know that he's utter shit and a massive disappointment? How can a club seriously replace someone of Steven Nzonzis world class with some no-mark who's only played for the minnows of Vitesse Chelsea & Milan? The mind fucking boggles I think he will be particularly effective in the two games against Chelsea I'm worried his non-inclusion in those games will jeopardise our great record against Chelski. Man alive do you talk some shit.
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Post by daveypotter on Aug 8, 2015 21:44:51 GMT
There are posters such as Sheikmomo and Bejaminbiscuit who will take pleasure if we lose tomorrow and be the first to say I told you so which is quite saddening.
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Post by spongebobflathead on Aug 8, 2015 21:45:37 GMT
Let's not fuck about any longer and get to the crux of things
what exactly does deturchitated mean and what on earth could it possibly be misspelt for ?
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 8, 2015 21:49:59 GMT
There are posters such as Sheikmomo and Bejaminbiscuit who will take pleasure if we lose tomorrow and be the first to say I told you so which is quite saddening. More made up shit. Take a look at Stokemark, Carpsplayer, st4scfc for the real anti-Stokists
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Post by stokemark on Aug 8, 2015 21:51:11 GMT
I think he will be particularly effective in the two games against Chelsea I'm worried his non-inclusion in those games will jeopardise our great record against Chelski. Man alive do you talk some shit. Is that the Chelsea we beat at home the season before last ? Yet again you can't articulate a reasoned debate and resort to insults pugsley
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