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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 16:15:30 GMT
I'm shocked and stunned at what a bunch of fickle, plastic, moaning, precious, disgraceful little entitled cunts we've become. I never thought I'd see the day when we turned into what we so often take the piss out of on this board, vile premiership elitist scrotums. And this is coming from a self confessed miserable bastard where Stoke are concerned, this pre-season has been nothing short of a disgrace, players written off before they've even signed, players written off 10 minutes into their debut, the management questioned, the transfer team questioned because we aren't spending £30 million on one player which is apparently what successful teams do. I can only hope this is the view of only a few deranged zealots on here and not the support in general, because it's pitiful, pointless and downright fucking stupid, support the team for once instead of repeating the same tiresome shit on every single thread in existence, you've made your point, stop ramming it down people's throats at every opportunity just to satisfy your need for either attention or your negativity powered erection stroking. Pathetic. Fucking happyclapper.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 16:18:41 GMT
Arnie, Adam, Diouf, along with Nzonzi were the main tormentors for the scouse last time. We still have three of them. I also have a feeling about Affellay - that he has something to prove and is hungry, like Bojan.
I don't see Liverpool being much better at the back. It will be a different game but we have good side and those friendlies in Germany bear no resemblance to the stoke team we will see from tomorrow.
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 8, 2015 16:36:37 GMT
That we are going into our first game of the season with such a limited first 11 We have dabbled, discussed and deturchitated an improved first 11 but clearly would rather take huge risks than financially shore up a very good first 11 Our support is more critical than ever but why we are left to be the 12th man when we should be looking to build on such strong foundations only the Coates family know. In Hughes we trust on a wing and a prayer Hughes has massively proved you wrong before, do you think he could do it again?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 8, 2015 16:41:50 GMT
Fucking retards. A player value has no reflection on the ability of the player, just the need of the buying club to sign him and the size of his contract left. I would rather sign 50 Bojan's and Diouf's who we diligently scouted knowing we could get a great deal on, than spend £15million on 1 player that another club had a say on if he was sold. That's not what happened with Diouf though is it. We were prepared to pay a largeish fee 12 months previously but as ever when there's a largeish fee involved, we didn't 'get it over the line' which is just Scholesese for 'fucked it up'.
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Post by slpmarc on Aug 8, 2015 16:45:01 GMT
Fucking retards. A player value has no reflection on the ability of the player, just the need of the buying club to sign him and the size of his contract left. I would rather sign 50 Bojan's and Diouf's who we diligently scouted knowing we could get a great deal on, than spend £15million on 1 player that another club had a say on if he was sold. That's not what happened with Diouf though is it. We were prepared to pay a largeish fee 12 months previously but as ever when there's a largeish fee involved, we didn't 'get it over the line' which is just Scholesese for 'fucked it up'. Because Hannover owner believed he could make Diouf sign a new contract. He was wrong and he was the one that fucked up, instead of receiving £8mill for a player he got fuck all. And you question Scholes's ability to do his job. If dick Duffer was not the owner he would of been sacked for that kind in incompetence
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 8, 2015 16:55:52 GMT
That's not what happened with Diouf though is it. We were prepared to pay a largeish fee 12 months previously but as ever when there's a largeish fee involved, we didn't 'get it over the line' which is just Scholesese for 'fucked it up'. Because Hannover owner believed he could make Diouf sign a new contract. He was wrong and he was the one that fucked up, instead of receiving £8mill for a player he got fuck all. And you question Scholes's ability to do his job. If dick Duffer was not the owner he would of been sacked for that kind in incompetence We have a habit of finding these clubs who are 'difficult to deal with' don't we? Must just be bad luck. Either way Diouf does not fit in your description of us diligently sniffing out value. We wanted to splurge on him but failed. Again.
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Post by spongebobflathead on Aug 8, 2015 17:07:59 GMT
I'm shocked and stunned at what a bunch of fickle, plastic, moaning, precious, disgraceful little entitled cunts we've become. I never thought I'd see the day when we turned into what we so often take the piss out of on this board, vile premiership elitist scrotums. And this is coming from a self confessed miserable bastard where Stoke are concerned, this pre-season has been nothing short of a disgrace, players written off before they've even signed, players written off 10 minutes into their debut, the management questioned, the transfer team questioned because we aren't spending £30 million on one player which is apparently what successful teams do. I can only hope this is the view of only a few deranged zealots on here and not the support in general, because it's pitiful, pointless and downright fucking stupid, support the team for once instead of repeating the same tiresome shit on every single thread in existence, you've made your point, stop ramming it down people's throats at every opportunity just to satisfy your need for either attention or your negativity powered erection stroking. Pathetic. Top post , exactly how I feel and wanted to articulate but quite frankly couldn't be arsed ! Bravo !
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Post by slpmarc on Aug 8, 2015 17:19:51 GMT
Because Hannover owner believed he could make Diouf sign a new contract. He was wrong and he was the one that fucked up, instead of receiving £8mill for a player he got fuck all. And you question Scholes's ability to do his job. If dick Duffer was not the owner he would of been sacked for that kind in incompetence We have a habit of finding these clubs who are 'difficult to deal with' don't we? Must just be bad luck. Either way Diouf does not fit in your description of us diligently sniffing out value. We wanted to splurge on him but failed. Again. He was rated at £15mill and that's what Dick wanted him, but due to is knowing his contract situation we put in a lower offer than he wanted and used his contract as a bargaining tool to pressurise the sale.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 17:20:25 GMT
Because Hannover owner believed he could make Diouf sign a new contract. He was wrong and he was the one that fucked up, instead of receiving £8mill for a player he got fuck all. And you question Scholes's ability to do his job. If dick Duffer was not the owner he would of been sacked for that kind in incompetence We have a habit of finding these clubs who are 'difficult to deal with' don't we? Must just be bad luck. Either way Diouf does not fit in your description of us diligently sniffing out value. We wanted to splurge on him but failed. Again. Who? Hannover? Who we spent nearly £6m with just 2 months ago when we purchased one of their first XI and 2nd highest scorer from last season? Why can't we accept that there are individual circumstances around each player's sale that have to be taken into consideration, from value of the player to the selling club, the agents involved, the length of contract the player is still under, personal terms, willingness of the player to move etc.? And isn't Scholes the same man who has overseen £100m's worth of player purchases since we got promoted, including our record signing of £10m for Crouch? Or is this a different Scholes to the one that allegedly can't do deals when there's money involved?
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Post by NassauDave on Aug 8, 2015 17:29:01 GMT
That we are going into our first game of the season with such a limited first 11 We have dabbled, discussed and deturchitated an improved first 11 but clearly would rather take huge risks than financially shore up a very good first 111 Our support is more critical than ever but why we are left to be the 12th man when we should be looking to build on such strong foundations only the Coates family know. In Hughes we trust on a wing and a prayer Are you on drugs?
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 8, 2015 17:29:52 GMT
We have a habit of finding these clubs who are 'difficult to deal with' don't we? Must just be bad luck. Either way Diouf does not fit in your description of us diligently sniffing out value. We wanted to splurge on him but failed. Again. Who? Hannover? Who we spent nearly £6m with just 2 months ago when we purchased one of their first XI and 2nd highest scorer from last season? Why can't we accept that there are individual circumstances around each player's sale that have to be taken into consideration, from value of the player to the selling club, the agents involved, the length of contract the player is still under, personal terms, willingness of the player to move etc.? And isn't Scholes the same man who has overseen the purchase of over £100m's worth of player purchases since we got promoted, including our record signing of £10m for Crouch? Or is this a different Scholes to the one that allegedly can't do deals when there's money involved? You forgot £18m including Palacios...... but that's none of my business
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 17:33:15 GMT
Who? Hannover? Who we spent nearly £6m with just 2 months ago when we purchased one of their first XI and 2nd highest scorer from last season? Why can't we accept that there are individual circumstances around each player's sale that have to be taken into consideration, from value of the player to the selling club, the agents involved, the length of contract the player is still under, personal terms, willingness of the player to move etc.? And isn't Scholes the same man who has overseen the purchase of over £100m's worth of player purchases since we got promoted, including our record signing of £10m for Crouch? Or is this a different Scholes to the one that allegedly can't do deals when there's money involved? You forgot £18m including Palacios...... but that's none of my business Indeed - proof if any were needed that just because money is spent it doesn't automatically have a bearing on the success of the transfer.
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Post by spongebobflathead on Aug 8, 2015 17:35:58 GMT
You forgot £18m including Palacios...... but that's none of my business Indeed - proof if any were needed that just because money is spent it doesn't automatically have a bearing on the success of the transfer. it really is a simple concept to understand , isn't it ?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 8, 2015 17:37:06 GMT
Other clubs being 'difficult to deal with' is a phrase coined by the club itself. Then you have West Brom marching into Russia and sorting something pretty quickly.
Like I say, we must just be unlucky.
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 8, 2015 17:38:00 GMT
You forgot £18m including Palacios...... but that's none of my business Indeed - proof if any were needed that just because money is spent it doesn't automatically have a bearing on the success of the transfer. Agreed, I just don't believe we couldn't of found anyone in 3 years that cost more than £5 million that wasn't better than what we bought in
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Post by spongebobflathead on Aug 8, 2015 17:42:12 GMT
Indeed - proof if any were needed that just because money is spent it doesn't automatically have a bearing on the success of the transfer. Agreed, I just don't believe we couldn't of found anyone in 3 years that cost more than £5 million that wasn't better than what we bought in Why not just bring in someone better than what we have for fuck all ? I honestly can't see any relavence to money spent , it really is a strange standpoint !
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 8, 2015 17:51:26 GMT
Agreed, I just don't believe we couldn't of found anyone in 3 years that cost more than £5 million that wasn't better than what we bought in Why not just bring in someone better than what we have for fuck all ? I honestly can't see any relavence to money spent , it really is a strange standpoint ! You genuinely don't see any added risk in trying to do it without spending money, pretty much all of the time?
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Post by spongebobflathead on Aug 8, 2015 17:57:59 GMT
Why not just bring in someone better than what we have for fuck all ? I honestly can't see any relavence to money spent , it really is a strange standpoint ! You genuinely don't see any added risk in trying to do it without spending money, pretty much all of the time? But on the whole there is little evidence to suggest that's the plan momo ! I like to read your posts bud and respect them but to be honest it's just another stick to twat scholes with isnt it mate , the money is there and again there is no evidence to suggest that the hierarchy are trying to hoodwink us, is there ?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 8, 2015 18:08:41 GMT
You genuinely don't see any added risk in trying to do it without spending money, pretty much all of the time? But on the whole there is little evidence to suggest that's the plan momo ! I like to read your posts bud and respect them but to be honest it's just another stick to twat scholes with isnt it mate , the money is there and again there is no evidence to suggest that the hierarchy are trying to hoodwink us, is there ? I think their posturing regarding the 'next level' and that self congratulatory piece in the piece in The Guardian was very ill advised personally, sponge.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 18:11:58 GMT
Shitbin. Our best squad ever (or at least in the last 40 years) and people still complain.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 18:12:06 GMT
I'm happy with our summer business thus far and think we've improved the quality of the squad with very little outlay. We've also significantly strengthened the group of players underneath them for an equally small outlay.
I think we've put ourselves in a very strong position to push on with the new TV deal.
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Post by pottermouth on Aug 8, 2015 18:27:10 GMT
I'm happy with our summer business thus far and think we've improved the quality of the squad with very little outlay. We've also significantly strengthened the group of players underneath them for an equally small outlay. I think we've put ourselves in a very strong position to push on with the new TV deal. I am very happy that Stoke are in the Premier League. For the first time in a generation we have a chance to challenge for Europe. However, it remains to be seen if the lack of investment this summer will bite us back. Mark Hughes is a legend though.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 8, 2015 18:39:12 GMT
I'm happy with our summer business thus far and think we've improved the quality of the squad with very little outlay. We've also significantly strengthened the group of players underneath them for an equally small outlay. I think we've put ourselves in a very strong position to push on with the new TV deal. The side that takes the pitch tomorrow will be weaker than the one that took the pitch 11 weeks ago, that is completely undeniable.
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Post by Northy on Aug 8, 2015 18:40:12 GMT
I'm shocked and stunned at what a bunch of fickle, plastic, moaning, precious, disgraceful little entitled cunts we've become. I never thought I'd see the day when we turned into what we so often take the piss out of on this board, vile premiership elitist scrotums. And this is coming from a self confessed miserable bastard where Stoke are concerned, this pre-season has been nothing short of a disgrace, players written off before they've even signed, players written off 10 minutes into their debut, the management questioned, the transfer team questioned because we aren't spending £30 million on one player which is apparently what successful teams do. I can only hope this is the view of only a few deranged zealots on here and not the support in general, because it's pitiful, pointless and downright fucking stupid, support the team for once instead of repeating the same tiresome shit on every single thread in existence, you've made your point, stop ramming it down people's throats at every opportunity just to satisfy your need for either attention or your negativity powered erection stroking. Pathetic. Well said BM, some fookin precious tarts about at the moment, no doubt their support will all disappear when we slip out of the PL one day
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 8, 2015 18:48:54 GMT
I'm shocked and stunned at what a bunch of fickle, plastic, moaning, precious, disgraceful little entitled cunts we've become. I never thought I'd see the day when we turned into what we so often take the piss out of on this board, vile premiership elitist scrotums. And this is coming from a self confessed miserable bastard where Stoke are concerned, this pre-season has been nothing short of a disgrace, players written off before they've even signed, players written off 10 minutes into their debut, the management questioned, the transfer team questioned because we aren't spending £30 million on one player which is apparently what successful teams do. I can only hope this is the view of only a few deranged zealots on here and not the support in general, because it's pitiful, pointless and downright fucking stupid, support the team for once instead of repeating the same tiresome shit on every single thread in existence, you've made your point, stop ramming it down people's throats at every opportunity just to satisfy your need for either attention or your negativity powered erection stroking. Pathetic. Well said BM, some fookin precious tarts about at the moment, no doubt their support will all disappear when we slip out of the PL one day What the fuck has questioning the quality of the window etc got to do with being 'fickle', 'plastic' or 'precious'? 'Moaning' I'll give you but for me its an absolutely awful fucking post.
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Post by greyface on Aug 8, 2015 18:52:28 GMT
I'm shocked and stunned at what a bunch of fickle, plastic, moaning, precious, disgraceful little entitled cunts we've become. I never thought I'd see the day when we turned into what we so often take the piss out of on this board, vile premiership elitist scrotums. And this is coming from a self confessed miserable bastard where Stoke are concerned, this pre-season has been nothing short of a disgrace, players written off before they've even signed, players written off 10 minutes into their debut, the management questioned, the transfer team questioned because we aren't spending £30 million on one player which is apparently what successful teams do. I can only hope this is the view of only a few deranged zealots on here and not the support in general, because it's pitiful, pointless and downright fucking stupid, support the team for once instead of repeating the same tiresome shit on every single thread in existence, you've made your point, stop ramming it down people's throats at every opportunity just to satisfy your need for either attention or your negativity powered erection stroking. Pathetic. Copy and paste onto every other thread on this website. Well said, Sir
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Post by Pirate on Aug 8, 2015 18:57:05 GMT
Well said BM, some fookin precious tarts about at the moment, no doubt their support will all disappear when we slip out of the PL one day What the fuck has questioning the quality of the window etc got to do with being 'fickle', 'plastic' or 'precious'? 'Moaning' I'll give you but for me its an absolutely awful fucking post. I don't think he has specifically fingered you there Sheik has he, unless you feel you would put yourself into the perhaps, over exuberant category? Its not the constructed debates on the threads to specifically cover that subject, its the constant hijacking of every thread with the same agenda & arguments, Huth, Scholes etc?? Again not pigeon holing you personally mate, that would be a debate for another thread
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Post by Northy on Aug 8, 2015 18:57:26 GMT
Well said BM, some fookin precious tarts about at the moment, no doubt their support will all disappear when we slip out of the PL one day What the fuck has questioning the quality of the window etc got to do with being 'fickle', 'plastic' or 'precious'? 'Moaning' I'll give you but for me its an absolutely awful fucking post. Well you can find fault in anything, and are up there with the biscuit for negativity, you'd find fault if we won the CL, FA cup, League cup and PL in one season, so finding fault in that post wasn't too hard was it? I'm off to s beer festival to pick fault in all the beers
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Post by Davef on Aug 8, 2015 19:16:13 GMT
But on the whole there is little evidence to suggest that's the plan momo ! I like to read your posts bud and respect them but to be honest it's just another stick to twat scholes with isnt it mate , the money is there and again there is no evidence to suggest that the hierarchy are trying to hoodwink us, is there ? I think their posturing regarding the 'next level' and that self congratulatory piece in the piece in The Guardian was very ill advised personally, sponge. I genuinely can't see anything "self congratulatory" in that article. www.theguardian.com/football/2015/aug/01/from-tony-pulis-to-tiki-taka-stoke-tap-barcelona-for-talent
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Post by bmstoke on Aug 8, 2015 19:29:40 GMT
Because Hannover owner believed he could make Diouf sign a new contract. He was wrong and he was the one that fucked up, instead of receiving £8mill for a player he got fuck all. And you question Scholes's ability to do his job. If dick Duffer was not the owner he would of been sacked for that kind in incompetence We have a habit of finding these clubs who are 'difficult to deal with' don't we? Must just be bad luck. Either way Diouf does not fit in your description of us diligently sniffing out value. We wanted to splurge on him but failed. Again. Making shit up again? Repeat it enough times and people may start believing it.
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