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Post by magwitch on Feb 26, 2016 15:21:23 GMT
Yes, I agree, Lewis Banks should play. He will be thrown in at the deep-end, but this is part and parcel of professional football, testing his Premier League potential. I recall that Tony Allen played in the first team at 17 and for England at 19.
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Post by nonameface on Feb 26, 2016 16:12:10 GMT
Yes, I agree, Lewis Banks should play. He will be thrown in at the deep-end, but this is part and parcel of professional football, testing his Premier League potential. I recall that Tony Allen played in the first team at 17 and for England at 19. It may sound bad, but even if he was at fault for us losing the game I'd still be pleased he played. We have to give these guys the chance, every now and again one will suprise you. More importantly than that it shows the academy when there's an opening you'll be entrusted to do the job, this could be the difference for keeping and developing more kids. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Feb 26, 2016 16:18:11 GMT
Banks on the bench at least? with the amount of defensive injuries we have at the minute I wouldn't feel comfortable with just Tex on the bench tomorrow.
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Post by unknown182 on Feb 26, 2016 16:50:03 GMT
If Banks can't even make the bench against Villa at home with our current defensive injury list then he never will.
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Post by bolders on Feb 27, 2016 12:50:41 GMT
just listening to soccer saturday and they believe that when Pep and Mourinho go to Manchester that they will restrict the chances of players coming through their academies, respectively closing them. Would this be a good chance for us to look at cherry picking some of their youth ( all ages ) cause both have very good talent within them.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 27, 2016 12:56:07 GMT
just listening to soccer saturday and they believe that when Pep and Mourinho go to Manchester that they will restrict the chances of players coming through their academies, respectively closing them. Would this be a good chance for us to look at cherry picking some of their youth ( all ages ) cause both have very good talent within them. What evidence is there that Pep will do that? |
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Post by bolders on Feb 27, 2016 13:00:25 GMT
im just saying thats what they are saying on SS.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 27, 2016 13:08:19 GMT
im just saying thats what they are saying on SS. I know and what evidence did they provide? |
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Post by bolders on Feb 27, 2016 13:13:26 GMT
They didn't but they seemed adamant that it was most likely
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 27, 2016 13:18:00 GMT
They didn't but they seemed adamant that it was most likely From reading Twatter they also said Cabaye is the only French midfielder that would get in the England side. With Mourinho the evidence is there. Pep at Bayern and Barca has used academy players. At Barca he bought Pedro and Busquets up with him from the B team. And used loads of academy players. Less so at Bayern but he has still used them, they just didn't perform for him. |
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Post by nutterpotter on Feb 27, 2016 13:20:39 GMT
They didn't but they seemed adamant that it was most likely With Mourinho the evidence is there. Pep at Bayern and Barca has used academy players. At Barca he bought Pedro and Busquets up with him from the B team. And used loads of academy players. Less so at Bayern but he has still used them, they just didn't perform for him. No way did they say that!?  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 27, 2016 13:23:33 GMT
From reading Twatter they also said Cabaye is the only French midfielder that would get in the England side. With Mourinho the evidence is there. Pep at Bayern and Barca has used academy players. At Barca he bought Pedro and Busquets up with him from the B team. And used loads of academy players. Less so at Bayern but he has still used them, they just didn't perform for him. No way did they say that!? Merson did apparently! |
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Post by bolders on Feb 27, 2016 13:24:05 GMT
They didn't but they seemed adamant that it was most likely From reading Twatter they also said Cabaye is the only French midfielder that would get in the England side. With Mourinho the evidence is there. Pep at Bayern and Barca has used academy players. At Barca he bought Pedro and Busquets up with him from the B team. And used loads of academy players. Less so at Bayern but he has still used them, they just didn't perform for him. Didnt he have to use the academy at Barcea< wasn't that put in to his contract as a provisor like i know they have done with other managers before and afterwards. Bayern like alot of local players aswell |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 27, 2016 13:26:49 GMT
From reading Twatter they also said Cabaye is the only French midfielder that would get in the England side. With Mourinho the evidence is there. Pep at Bayern and Barca has used academy players. At Barca he bought Pedro and Busquets up with him from the B team. And used loads of academy players. Less so at Bayern but he has still used them, they just didn't perform for him. Didnt he have to use the academy at Barcea< wasn't that put in to his contract as a provisor like i know they have done with other managers before and afterwards. Bayern like alot of local players aswell Don't think so. He came from their academy. He managed their development side. They had some class players. It was always going to happen. Man City want players to come through their academy. Look at how they've invested. It will be Peps job to do that and to make them competitive in Europe. |
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Post by bolders on Feb 27, 2016 13:29:56 GMT
just start making a list just incase ;-
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Post by liathroid on Feb 27, 2016 14:04:45 GMT
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Post by liathroid on Feb 27, 2016 14:52:45 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 28, 2016 14:47:48 GMT
Rashford has 8 in 15 in the league we play in, they finished second bottom 2 points above us.
N'Goy has 5 in 8 in that same league.
Now I'm not saying he's as good and would do what Rashford is doing but they're similar stature and pace and they have similar records.
I just hope it makes managers around the country maybe give more youth players a chance.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2016 14:59:10 GMT
Rashford has 8 in 15 in the league we play in, they finished second bottom 2 points above us. N'Goy has 5 in 8 in that same league. Now I'm not saying he's as good and would do what Rashford is doing but they're similar stature and pace and they have similar records. I just hope it makes managers around the country maybe give more youth players a chance. Would love to see him and Shenton involved at the end of the season if we have nothing to play for, I mean how many millions are spent on the academy? The building, staff and player wages, transport.... May as well start getting something out of it. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 28, 2016 15:01:21 GMT
Rashford has 8 in 15 in the league we play in, they finished second bottom 2 points above us. N'Goy has 5 in 8 in that same league. Now I'm not saying he's as good and would do what Rashford is doing but they're similar stature and pace and they have similar records. I just hope it makes managers around the country maybe give more youth players a chance. Would love to see him and Shenton involved at the end of the season if we have nothing to play for, I mean how many millions are spent on the academy? The building, staff and player wages, transport.... May as well start getting something out of it. And would N'Goy actually do worse than our strikers this season? |
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Post by nutterpotter on Feb 28, 2016 15:04:06 GMT
Rashford has 8 in 15 in the league we play in, they finished second bottom 2 points above us. N'Goy has 5 in 8 in that same league. Now I'm not saying he's as good and would do what Rashford is doing but they're similar stature and pace and they have similar records. I just hope it makes managers around the country maybe give more youth players a chance. What's bugging me is that United still had plenty of other options; they didn't need to play Rashford. Could quite easily have played: Memphis Lingard Mata Januzaj But if we were in a similar position, there's no way N'Goy or Telford would have got a game. I'm not criticising Hughes or the management team but I'd really love to see a couple of the academy getting some game time. I can't see that coming towards the end of the season either as we will hopefully still have all to play for in those latter games. I think Hughes will probably take a good look at them in preseason when most of the lads will be on an extended break after the Euros. With the likes of Odem, Crouch, Ireland and possibly Walters moving on in the summer, there could be a few spaces up for grabs. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 28, 2016 15:07:25 GMT
Rashford has 8 in 15 in the league we play in, they finished second bottom 2 points above us. N'Goy has 5 in 8 in that same league. Now I'm not saying he's as good and would do what Rashford is doing but they're similar stature and pace and they have similar records. I just hope it makes managers around the country maybe give more youth players a chance. What's bugging me is that United still had plenty of other options; they didn't need to play Rashford. Could quite easily have played: Memphis Lingard Mata Januzaj But if we were in a similar position, there's no way N'Goy or Telford would have got a game. I'm not criticising Hughes or the management team but I'd really love to see a couple of the academy getting some game time. I can't see that coming towards the end of the season either as we will hopefully still have all to play for in those latter games. I think Hughes will probably take a good look at them in preseason when most of the lads will be on an extended break after the Euros. With the likes of Odem, Crouch, Ireland and possibly Walters moving on in the summer, there could be a few spaces up for grabs. I've criticised Hughes about it.  He needs criticising for it!  It's one of his biggest weaknesses as a manager and always has been. You're right though, they wouldn't play. We had 3 strikers on the bench yesterday when there's no need for it. I find it all rather sad. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2016 15:10:40 GMT
In the past we've paid fees for the likes of Matt Lund, Ben Marshall ( who in my opinion is top quality) Telford and Waddington, The first two didn't get a look in and l can't see the other two breaking through under Hughes. Also, didn't we beat the likes of Madrid to get Ngoy? Surely he would have expected to be somewhere by now by signing for us over them?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 28, 2016 15:12:25 GMT
In the past we've paid fees for the likes of Matt Lund, Ben Marshall ( who in my opinion is top quality) Telford and Waddington, The first two didn't get a look in and l can't see the other two breaking through under Hughes. Also, didn't we beat the likes of Madrid to get Ngoy? Surely he would have expected to be somewhere by now by signing for us over them? You'd hope they'd be a bit closer to getting a look in than they actually are. Especially now they're doing well as a side. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Feb 28, 2016 15:25:47 GMT
In the past we've paid fees for the likes of Matt Lund, Ben Marshall ( who in my opinion is top quality) Telford and Waddington, The first two didn't get a look in and l can't see the other two breaking through under Hughes. Also, didn't we beat the likes of Madrid to get Ngoy? Surely he would have expected to be somewhere by now by signing for us over them? Ben Marshall. Who's he playing for now? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 28, 2016 15:29:36 GMT
In the past we've paid fees for the likes of Matt Lund, Ben Marshall ( who in my opinion is top quality) Telford and Waddington, The first two didn't get a look in and l can't see the other two breaking through under Hughes. Also, didn't we beat the likes of Madrid to get Ngoy? Surely he would have expected to be somewhere by now by signing for us over them? Ben Marshall. Who's he playing for now? Shotton was a miles better winger. Now that one was a fuck up. Play a winger on the wing, play a right back at right back etc. It was pathetic. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2016 15:33:05 GMT
In the past we've paid fees for the likes of Matt Lund, Ben Marshall ( who in my opinion is top quality) Telford and Waddington, The first two didn't get a look in and l can't see the other two breaking through under Hughes. Also, didn't we beat the likes of Madrid to get Ngoy? Surely he would have expected to be somewhere by now by signing for us over them? Ben Marshall. Who's he playing for now? Blackburn, he's one of their best players I think |
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Post by lichfieldboy on Feb 28, 2016 15:42:15 GMT
Telford looks more ready than Ngoy to me. Someone on here said contract issues were stopping him going out on loan, don't know if they would also stop him playing for the first team.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 28, 2016 15:43:36 GMT
Telford looks more ready than Ngoy to me. Someone on here said contract issues were stopping him going out on loan, don't know if they would also stop him playing for the first team. Which one? |
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Post by lichfieldboy on Feb 28, 2016 16:11:03 GMT
Telford. Ngoy hasn't really had a good run of games this season, keeps getting injured. When he's fit he's a handful, looked off the pace yesterday but then first game back.
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He needs criticising for it! 
