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Post by kbillyh on Sept 15, 2015 19:34:40 GMT
![](https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12003941_10207305358335362_4880430453028175410_n.jpg?oh=bf8ebbf3b515c9e732d173937e60fb89&oe=5669EC72) Just for balance. the Secretary of State for defence is not trying to convince the country he is fit to be PM. And wether you agree or not a lot of people won't like this sort of behaviour on his first official function. It won't win him votes. Surprising as I thought he was in the business of winning votes. Why don't you get some hoops made up Salop so Jeremy can jump through them as and when you think it's needed. Perhaps you could get The Sun to sponsor them. And i suppose the Secretary of Defence thinks he has the divine right to his position, no need to make an effort for him eh, he couldn't possibly be reported as being disrespectful.
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Post by kbillyh on Sept 15, 2015 19:45:20 GMT
All these predictions, all this advice. Proper rattled you lot because he offers hope, not fear. You've seen how a movement changed Scotland and you're seeing the start of it here, it's an energy you can't ignore. The media have been at his throat since his name was even mentioned, doesn't seem to have made much difference so far does it..... other than to provide you lot some sound bite and twisted truth ammunition to fire on here that is. Something's changing and it's going to make the old "middle ground" rule mean nothing. When he toured for the election he was getting thousands turning up at every venue. Every single one. Compare that to the empty warehouses Cameron spoke in during the last election. Yep, you're rattled. To a degree Billy I hope that you are right, because a second term of the Tories could be brutal.But , as you say, he is up against the media, and they will be relentless.I know that you don't like me saying this, but his stance on the EU referendum is going to be decisive/potentially explosive (NOTHING to do with UKIP, something the Labour party ( and the Tories) have to address in their own right) Just to keep you up to date on proceedings BJR........the Tories are already in their second term.
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Post by harryburrows on Sept 15, 2015 19:50:52 GMT
To a degree Billy I hope that you are right, because a second term of the Tories could be brutal.But , as you say, he is up against the media, and they will be relentless.I know that you don't like me saying this, but his stance on the EU referendum is going to be decisive/potentially explosive (NOTHING to do with UKIP, something the Labour party ( and the Tories) have to address in their own right) Just to keep you up to date on proceedings BJR........the Tories are already in their second term. Technically the first term was a coalition
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Sept 15, 2015 19:55:09 GMT
Just to keep you up to date on proceedings BJR........the Tories are already in their second term. Technically the first term was a coalition Harry (and Billy) Whatever, a FURTHER term of the Tories will , in my opinion, clearly divide the country into the haves, and the have-nots (and with few life-chances). If we are not careful we will be a one party state.
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Post by kbillyh on Sept 15, 2015 19:57:00 GMT
Just to keep you up to date on proceedings BJR........the Tories are already in their second term. Technically the first term was a coalition Hahaha yeah, suppose so. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) Really was technically though, the Libdems did next to fuck all to reign them in. (he quickly added to divert attention away from his error)
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Post by kbillyh on Sept 15, 2015 20:05:49 GMT
Technically the first term was a coalition Harry (and Billy) Whatever, a FURTHER term of the Tories will , in my opinion, clearly divide the country into the haves, and the have-nots (and with few life-chances). If we are not careful we will be a one party state. I couldn't agree more BJR, it'll be bad enough at the end of this term. Thank fuck Corbyn won, at least the Tories will be called out for screwing over the working class, hopefully it'll slow them down knowing they will have to answer for their actions rather than just spin the stories away as they have been doing.
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Post by salopstick on Sept 15, 2015 20:07:24 GMT
the Secretary of State for defence is not trying to convince the country he is fit to be PM. And wether you agree or not a lot of people won't like this sort of behaviour on his first official function. It won't win him votes. Surprising as I thought he was in the business of winning votes. Why don't you get some hoops made up Salop so Jeremy can jump through them as and when you think it's needed. Perhaps you could get The Sun to sponsor them. And i suppose the Secretary of Defence thinks he has the divine right to his position, no need to make an effort for him eh, he couldn't possibly be reported as being disrespectful. It doesn't matter, politics is still style over/with substance, especially since we moved to a 24 hr media driven society Part of the reason why Blair got elected, part of the reason why Cameron got elected. And one of the reasons stopping corbyn being elected. There are simply not enough voters who will warm to him especially in the marginals. Any good messages get drowned by his image and his unpopular policies. That may not sit right but there is truth in it. He needs to quickly move more centre. It's ok having principles. But surely it's better to compromise some of those principles if it means government and implementing some of your ideas.
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Post by kbillyh on Sept 15, 2015 20:18:38 GMT
Why don't you get some hoops made up Salop so Jeremy can jump through them as and when you think it's needed. Perhaps you could get The Sun to sponsor them. And i suppose the Secretary of Defence thinks he has the divine right to his position, no need to make an effort for him eh, he couldn't possibly be reported as being disrespectful. It doesn't matter, politics is still style over/with substance, especially since we moved to a 24 hr media driven society Part of the reason why Blair got elected, part of the reason why Cameron got elected. And one of the reasons stopping corbyn being elected. There are simply not enough voters who will warm to him especially in the marginals. Any good messages get drowned by his image and his unpopular policies. That may not sit right but there is truth in it. He needs to quickly move more centre. It's ok having principles. But surely it's better to compromise some of those principles if it means government and implementing some of your ideas. Hahahaha, More advice, more predictions. I'm sure they are grateful for your concern. No mention of the failure of the media to nip him in the bud so far, and no mention of the groundswell of support coming for him from those previously sidelined by politics......It's those people that if galvanised will put your "marginals" rule to bed. This may not sit right with you though because i know you're not commenting through concern.........you're rattled.
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Post by salopstick on Sept 15, 2015 20:25:54 GMT
It doesn't matter, politics is still style over/with substance, especially since we moved to a 24 hr media driven society Part of the reason why Blair got elected, part of the reason why Cameron got elected. And one of the reasons stopping corbyn being elected. There are simply not enough voters who will warm to him especially in the marginals. Any good messages get drowned by his image and his unpopular policies. That may not sit right but there is truth in it. He needs to quickly move more centre. It's ok having principles. But surely it's better to compromise some of those principles if it means government and implementing some of your ideas. Hahahaha, More advice, more predictions. I'm sure they are grateful for your concern. No mention of the failure of the media to nip him in the bud so far, and no mention of the groundswell of support coming for him from those previously sidelined by politics......It's those people that if galvanised will put your "marginals" rule to bed. This may not sit right with you though because i know you're not commenting through concern.........you're rattled. Hardly rattled. I do not want a one party state, I want strong opposition. It keeps government in check. I don't expect the media to nip him in the bud at all but the right wing media will spend the next 5 years ripping him. He will struggle to keep government in check if the media concentrate on his left wing traits rather than his good ideas. The majority of this country isn't hard left any more it's far right. As keep on repeated on this thread you can only win elections from the centre ground.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 15, 2015 20:33:32 GMT
Hahahaha, More advice, more predictions. I'm sure they are grateful for your concern. No mention of the failure of the media to nip him in the bud so far, and no mention of the groundswell of support coming for him from those previously sidelined by politics......It's those people that if galvanised will put your "marginals" rule to bed. This may not sit right with you though because i know you're not commenting through concern.........you're rattled. Hardly rattled. I do not want a one party state, I want strong opposition. It keeps government in check. I don't expect the media to nip him in the bud at all but the right wing media will spend the next 5 years ripping him. He will struggle to keep government in check if the media concentrate on his left wing traits rather than his good ideas. The majority of this country isn't hard left any more it's far right. As keep on repeated on this thread you can only win elections from the centre ground. In the last election there was a groundswell of voters moving from Labour to UKIP including myself, 8 million voters many ex Labour jumped that political divide to what you call the far right, Corbyn will need the majority to jump back the same way, given his stance on immigration and his reluctance to show his hand on leaving the EU do you really think that will happen ?
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Post by harryburrows on Sept 15, 2015 20:55:09 GMT
Hahahaha, More advice, more predictions. I'm sure they are grateful for your concern. No mention of the failure of the media to nip him in the bud so far, and no mention of the groundswell of support coming for him from those previously sidelined by politics......It's those people that if galvanised will put your "marginals" rule to bed. This may not sit right with you though because i know you're not commenting through concern.........you're rattled. Hardly rattled. I do not want a one party state, I want strong opposition. It keeps government in check. I don't expect the media to nip him in the bud at all but the right wing media will spend the next 5 years ripping him. He will struggle to keep government in check if the media concentrate on his left wing traits rather than his good ideas. The majority of this country isn't hard left any more it's far right. As keep on repeated on this thread you can only win elections from the centre ground. The scots kept labour in government for years . They need to replace the 50 scots Seats to have any hope
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Post by starkiller on Sept 15, 2015 21:39:44 GMT
To reverse the way the ordinary folk and most vulnerable have been shafted and continue to be by this government will actually need a lot of his supposed radical left ideas.
This bunch are the most shamelessly evil cunts this country has ever seen.
Corbyn is the biggest chance for ordinary people to get a voice ever. And those Murdoch rags that have always pretended to be for ordinary people are losing ground big-time.
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Post by desman2 on Sept 15, 2015 21:52:29 GMT
The ordinary folk of this country were being shafted long before this lot got in. It depends who you would rather be shafted by.
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Post by starkiller on Sept 15, 2015 21:55:49 GMT
The ordinary folk of this country were being shafted long before this lot got in. It depends who you would rather be shafted by. Well a 250-1 outsider (that's how much the media thinks it knows) offers the best chance for some redress.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 22:06:27 GMT
This isn't about the press or TV . It isn't about any personal dislike of Corbyn or that of he left in general , this is about those middle of the road supporters the party needs to attract to stand any glimmer of hope of winning . We are talking about the working classes here ....people who don't like what they are seeing and hearing . If you don't listen , then you don't win .
Politics isn't about protest ....It's about power .
Vote Corbyn & you get protest and nothing else .
This isn't up for debate , .....this is a fact .
Idealism vs. Realism.
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Post by starkiller on Sept 15, 2015 22:16:15 GMT
This isn't about the press or TV . It isn't about any personal dislike of Corbyn or that of he left in general , this is about those middle of the road supporters the party needs to attract to stand any glimmer of hope of winning . We are talking about the working classes here ....people who don't like what they are seeing and hearing . If you don't listen , then you don't win . Politics isn't about protest ....It's about power . Vote Corbyn & you get protest and nothing else . This isn't up for debate , .....this is a fact . Idealism vs. Realism. How do you know they don't like it? Is that news brought to you by the same folk who said Corbyn had no chance of becoming leader and then have shit it ever since they realised they were wrong?
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Post by desman2 on Sept 15, 2015 22:16:24 GMT
This isn't about the press or TV . It isn't about any personal dislike of Corbyn or that of he left in general , this is about those middle of the road supporters the party needs to attract to stand any glimmer of hope of winning . We are talking about the working classes here ....people who don't like what they are seeing and hearing . If you don't listen , then you don't win . Politics isn't about protest ....It's about power . Vote Corbyn & you get protest and nothing else . This isn't up for debate , .....this is a fact . Idealism vs. Realism. You are correct mumf. People are so transfixed with what colour rosette someones wearing that they completely miss the things being said or promised. It dosnt help when youve got a media that can manipulate people rather than leave them to get in touch with whats going on.
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Post by trentvegas on Sept 15, 2015 22:21:55 GMT
To add.. Corbyn, although true to his beliefs and noble, will end up even more of a joke than Milliband, England will never accept such a risk in a general election, for every plank who thinks Corbyn will de-throne The Tories, you just wait until him and his cronies start opening their mouths and unleashing vitriol bullshit Vitriol bullshit eh? Oh dear somebody's rattled. ![>:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/3fpOQXhXVXuSM73B6hK4.gif) Rattled? To be rattled I would have to dislike the entirety of The Labour Party. I do not, I am not a nailed on supporter of any party and the majority of the few politicians I have time for serve in The Labour Party. My irk is that it appears they are being lead by somebody who leans that wildly to the left that if he ever wielded the form of power a PM has, anyone who is White, English and done well for themselves in life will be made to feel fucking obligated to pay for a no-holds barred benefits budget and open door immigration policy. So, as much as you would love me to pledge allegiance to UKIP and tell you how I hate all foreigners, you are unfortunately way off the mark Sir.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 1:16:06 GMT
This isn't about the press or TV . It isn't about any personal dislike of Corbyn or that of he left in general , this is about those middle of the road supporters the party needs to attract to stand any glimmer of hope of winning . We are talking about the working classes here ....people who don't like what they are seeing and hearing . If you don't listen , then you don't win . Politics isn't about protest ....It's about power . Vote Corbyn & you get protest and nothing else . This isn't up for debate , .....this is a fact . Idealism vs. Realism. How do you know they don't like it? Is that news brought to you by the same folk who said Corbyn had no chance of becoming leader and then have shit it ever since they realised they were wrong? How do I know .?.....because I was born in Stoke into poverty and now live in Cheshire . I know because Ed Milliband was appointed as leader and I predicted his calamitous demise . I know because I never doubted the power of the unions within the party and the political posturing involved . I know because similar irrational behaviour occurs in nature and features small furry animals called Lemmings . Their leap of faith in panic (following the one ahead ) is identical to the happy clapping that can be observed on here by the Corbynisters . If appointing Ed Miliband wasn't bad enough. , then even the stupidest , thickest bastuurd on planet earth would know that by appointing Corbyn you are effectively appointing someone who is infinitely worse in the general publics political perception . What amazes me is how fucking stupid and thick the average member of the Labour Party supporter must be to even Consider voting Corbyn as leader .We may not all agree on his principles which is fair enough , but would you want to marry a cross eyed bird whose 66 , with sticky out ears and ginger hair .....? Would you want your grandkids future put into doubt by a man intent on removing our nuclear deterrent and is friends with Diane Abbott .....? Have you ever watched this lunatic bitch like I have over many years on the Andrew Neil political show on a Thursday night ? I wouldn't trust this bitch to look after my goldfish . I 've listened to her left wing racist hatred and also witnessed her double standards in relation to the education of her children .... I'm too old and too wise to be swayed by what the press has said about her . I judge people by what they actually do . Similarly I predicted that Corbyn would have her in his Cabinet ....and guess what ....he did . It doesn't get any more apocalyptic than this . Bruce Willis or even Sylvestre Stalone couldn't currently save the Labour Party . Perhaps I'm using the wrong political role models ....perhaps I should be mentioning Ken Livingstone or gorgeous George Galloway in a cat costume but the end result and message is still the same . I am simply shocked and staggered by the myopic nature of your current average Labour Party supporter . I thought that the lessons of defeat and failure had already been learned under Millibands tenure . Little did I think we would as a party lurch further down the road to the giant cravass. At the end of the day it's all about choice . It's about winning or losing . It's about personal Preference ....political idealism or political responsibility and rationale . The hardest lesson for some people to learn , is that sometimes you have to vote for the middle ground candidate in order to secure a victory and then put meat on the bone later ......Voting left to get Corbyn gets you a wooden placard and a pair of monkey boots circa 1975 . I shall now concentrate on who's next . It's the only positive thought I can currently focus on .
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Post by starkiller on Sept 16, 2015 6:06:15 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Sept 16, 2015 6:11:11 GMT
How do you know they don't like it? Is that news brought to you by the same folk who said Corbyn had no chance of becoming leader and then have shit it ever since they realised they were wrong? How do I know .?.....because I was born in Stoke into poverty and now live in Cheshire . I know because Ed Milliband was appointed as leader and I predicted his calamitous demise . I know because I never doubted the power of the unions within the party and the political posturing involved . I know because similar irrational behaviour occurs in nature and features small furry animals called Lemmings . Their leap of faith in panic (following the one ahead ) is identical to the happy clapping that can be observed on here by the Corbynisters . If appointing Ed Miliband wasn't bad enough. , then even the stupidest , thickest bastuurd on planet earth would know that by appointing Corbyn you are effectively appointing someone who is infinitely worse in the general publics political perception . What amazes me is how fucking stupid and thick the average member of the Labour Party supporter must be to even Consider voting Corbyn as leader .We may not all agree on his principles which is fair enough , but would you want to marry a cross eyed bird whose 66 , with sticky out ears and ginger hair .....? Would you want your grandkids future put into doubt by a man intent on removing our nuclear deterrent and is friends with Diane Abbott .....? Have you ever watched this lunatic bitch like I have over many years on the Andrew Neil political show on a Thursday night ? I wouldn't trust this bitch to look after my goldfish . I 've listened to her left wing racist hatred and also witnessed her double standards in relation to the education of her children .... I'm too old and too wise to be swayed by what the press has said about her . I judge people by what they actually do . Similarly I predicted that Corbyn would have her in his Cabinet ....and guess what ....he did . It doesn't get any more apocalyptic than this . Bruce Willis or even Sylvestre Stalone couldn't currently save the Labour Party . Perhaps I'm using the wrong political role models ....perhaps I should be mentioning Ken Livingstone or gorgeous George Galloway in a cat costume but the end result and message is still the same . I am simply shocked and staggered by the myopic nature of your current average Labour Party supporter . I thought that the lessons of defeat and failure had already been learned under Millibands tenure . Little did I think we would as a party lurch further down the road to the giant cravass. At the end of the day it's all about choice . It's about winning or losing . It's about personal Preference ....political idealism or political responsibility and rationale . The hardest lesson for some people to learn , is that sometimes you have to vote for the middle ground candidate in order to secure a victory and then put meat on the bone later ......Voting left to get Corbyn gets you a wooden placard and a pair of monkey boots circa 1975 . I shall now concentrate on who's next . It's the only positive thought I can currently focus on . Outstanding
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Post by bathstoke on Sept 16, 2015 6:25:31 GMT
The ordinary folk of this country were being shafted long before this lot got in. It depends who you would rather be shafted by. Kelly Brook
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 16, 2015 6:47:46 GMT
Why don't you get some hoops made up Salop so Jeremy can jump through them as and when you think it's needed. Perhaps you could get The Sun to sponsor them. And i suppose the Secretary of Defence thinks he has the divine right to his position, no need to make an effort for him eh, he couldn't possibly be reported as being disrespectful. It doesn't matter, politics is still style over/with substance, especially since we moved to a 24 hr media driven society Part of the reason why Blair got elected, part of the reason why Cameron got elected. And one of the reasons stopping corbyn being elected. There are simply not enough voters who will warm to him especially in the marginals. Any good messages get drowned by his image and his unpopular policies. That may not sit right but there is truth in it. He needs to quickly move more centre. It's ok having principles. But surely it's better to compromise some of those principles if it means government and implementing some of your ideas. That's the art of governance in a nutshell. Without getting all Machiavellian if you want to govern you have to master pragmatism over principle. One should mask the other. The idea that principle gets you everywhere means....You never get to govern on our own.
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Post by kbillyh on Sept 16, 2015 9:27:52 GMT
How do you know they don't like it? Is that news brought to you by the same folk who said Corbyn had no chance of becoming leader and then have shit it ever since they realised they were wrong? How do I know .?.....because I was born in Stoke into poverty and now live in Cheshire . I know because Ed Milliband was appointed as leader and I predicted his calamitous demise . I know because I never doubted the power of the unions within the party and the political posturing involved . I know because similar irrational behaviour occurs in nature and features small furry animals called Lemmings . Their leap of faith in panic (following the one ahead ) is identical to the happy clapping that can be observed on here by the Corbynisters . If appointing Ed Miliband wasn't bad enough. , then even the stupidest , thickest bastuurd on planet earth would know that by appointing Corbyn you are effectively appointing someone who is infinitely worse in the general publics political perception . What amazes me is how fucking stupid and thick the average member of the Labour Party supporter must be to even Consider voting Corbyn as leader .We may not all agree on his principles which is fair enough , but would you want to marry a cross eyed bird whose 66 , with sticky out ears and ginger hair .....? Would you want your grandkids future put into doubt by a man intent on removing our nuclear deterrent and is friends with Diane Abbott .....? Have you ever watched this lunatic bitch like I have over many years on the Andrew Neil political show on a Thursday night ? I wouldn't trust this bitch to look after my goldfish . I 've listened to her left wing racist hatred and also witnessed her double standards in relation to the education of her children .... I'm too old and too wise to be swayed by what the press has said about her . I judge people by what they actually do . Similarly I predicted that Corbyn would have her in his Cabinet ....and guess what ....he did . It doesn't get any more apocalyptic than this . Bruce Willis or even Sylvestre Stalone couldn't currently save the Labour Party . Perhaps I'm using the wrong political role models ....perhaps I should be mentioning Ken Livingstone or gorgeous George Galloway in a cat costume but the end result and message is still the same . I am simply shocked and staggered by the myopic nature of your current average Labour Party supporter . I thought that the lessons of defeat and failure had already been learned under Millibands tenure . Little did I think we would as a party lurch further down the road to the giant cravass. At the end of the day it's all about choice . It's about winning or losing . It's about personal Preference ....political idealism or political responsibility and rationale . The hardest lesson for some people to learn , is that sometimes you have to vote for the middle ground candidate in order to secure a victory and then put meat on the bone later ......Voting left to get Corbyn gets you a wooden placard and a pair of monkey boots circa 1975 . I shall now concentrate on who's next . It's the only positive thought I can currently focus on . Not that you have to resort to name calling to engage in a debate eh Mumf. Your double standards really do know no bounds. As for the content of you post, not quite as gibberish as most but still utter rubbish, every sentence from the start, full of irrelevant nonsense. You know nothing youth, other than your narrow minded entrenched opinions that anything considered "left" or "socialist" is bad and the unions are the evil masterminds of Corbyn's rise. And these opinions you forward, you will never budge from, these are the "facts" as you so frequently tell us. Anybody who disagrees is so obviously "the stupidest , thickest bastuurd on planet earth". Yep, no debating with you. I'll sit here waiting for my "wooden placard" and pair of "monkey boots circa 1975" to be delivered by the privatised Royal Mail...... I suppose you'll be expecting your S.S uniform circa 1934 and Jack boots to be arriving shortly.
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Post by desman2 on Sept 16, 2015 10:07:38 GMT
The ordinary folk of this country were being shafted long before this lot got in. It depends who you would rather be shafted by. Kelly Brook I,ll see what I can do ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif)
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Post by Rick Grimes on Sept 16, 2015 13:11:50 GMT
How do I know .?.....because I was born in Stoke into poverty and now live in Cheshire . I know because Ed Milliband was appointed as leader and I predicted his calamitous demise . I know because I never doubted the power of the unions within the party and the political posturing involved . I know because similar irrational behaviour occurs in nature and features small furry animals called Lemmings . Their leap of faith in panic (following the one ahead ) is identical to the happy clapping that can be observed on here by the Corbynisters . If appointing Ed Miliband wasn't bad enough. , then even the stupidest , thickest bastuurd on planet earth would know that by appointing Corbyn you are effectively appointing someone who is infinitely worse in the general publics political perception . What amazes me is how fucking stupid and thick the average member of the Labour Party supporter must be to even Consider voting Corbyn as leader .We may not all agree on his principles which is fair enough , but would you want to marry a cross eyed bird whose 66 , with sticky out ears and ginger hair .....? Would you want your grandkids future put into doubt by a man intent on removing our nuclear deterrent and is friends with Diane Abbott .....? Have you ever watched this lunatic bitch like I have over many years on the Andrew Neil political show on a Thursday night ? I wouldn't trust this bitch to look after my goldfish . I 've listened to her left wing racist hatred and also witnessed her double standards in relation to the education of her children .... I'm too old and too wise to be swayed by what the press has said about her . I judge people by what they actually do . Similarly I predicted that Corbyn would have her in his Cabinet ....and guess what ....he did . It doesn't get any more apocalyptic than this . Bruce Willis or even Sylvestre Stalone couldn't currently save the Labour Party . Perhaps I'm using the wrong political role models ....perhaps I should be mentioning Ken Livingstone or gorgeous George Galloway in a cat costume but the end result and message is still the same . I am simply shocked and staggered by the myopic nature of your current average Labour Party supporter . I thought that the lessons of defeat and failure had already been learned under Millibands tenure . Little did I think we would as a party lurch further down the road to the giant cravass. At the end of the day it's all about choice . It's about winning or losing . It's about personal Preference ....political idealism or political responsibility and rationale . The hardest lesson for some people to learn , is that sometimes you have to vote for the middle ground candidate in order to secure a victory and then put meat on the bone later ......Voting left to get Corbyn gets you a wooden placard and a pair of monkey boots circa 1975 . I shall now concentrate on who's next . It's the only positive thought I can currently focus on . Not that you have to resort to name calling to engage in a debate eh Mumf. Your double standards really do know no bounds. As for the content of you post, not quite as gibberish as most but still utter rubbish, every sentence from the start, full of irrelevant nonsense. You know nothing youth, other than your narrow minded entrenched opinions that anything considered "left" or "socialist" is bad and the unions are the evil masterminds of Corbyn's rise. And these opinions you forward, you will never budge from, these are the "facts" as you so frequently tell us. Anybody who disagrees is so obviously "the stupidest , thickest bastuurd on planet earth". Yep, no debating with you. I'll sit here waiting for my "wooden placard" and pair of "monkey boots circa 1975" to be delivered by the privatised Royal Mail...... I suppose you'll be expecting your S.S uniform circa 1934 and Jack boots to be arriving shortly. Very accurate summary.
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 16, 2015 17:26:58 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Sept 16, 2015 18:28:49 GMT
He seems to be doing ok so far. He will need the full support of his cabinet in order to withstand the press scrutiny, particularly when the time comes that the'Labour Party' will be required to have clear decisive policies on the controversial issues of the economy and defence, for example. .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2015 18:35:29 GMT
I said that the other day I just can't see him as long term myself.
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Post by kbillyh on Sept 16, 2015 18:40:02 GMT
Not necessarily your view but you posted it none the less, again, as you have tended to do with everything involving Corbyn despite your claims you're glad he won. For a man who say's he's a part of the Labour movement from within, you are doing a good impression of being an active agent to spread uncertainty and discontent at every opportunity. You really want it to fuck up for him really don't you, from the off you've done nothing but spout negativity. But of course you will no doubt diffuse that accusation by claiming you are only researching and posting such comments so regularly as a means to keep us all informed of the current ....err...ahem..... word on the street.
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