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Post by kbillyh on Sept 14, 2015 0:12:24 GMT
Plenty would though Derrida, and i do mean plenty as was proven by the election figures. Perhaps it's time for you to hypothetically sit on the backbenches...........not that any firm decisions have been made regarding NATO or Nuclear disarmament.... Just as a matter of interest, do you have any personal financial interest in the nuclear lobby or arms industry? Just seems like you are very concentrated on this single issue even though nothing is written in stone as yet. I'm not going to go into what I do for a living as that's in direct contravention of message board rules and rather unfair, if you don't mind me saying so. For many, me included, Labour is an internationalist party that believes in solidarity and multilateralism. As the infamous Labour Party membership card says; ‘by the strength of our common endeavour we achieve more together than we do alone’. This article sums things up nicely - www.progressonline.org.uk/2015/09/09/labour-must-remain-true-to-our-internationalist-values/The only thing I will add is that, with the announcement a few moments ago of John McDonnell as Shadow Chancellor, I would be less inclined to think that people will move to the hypothetical backbenches. More that people will now possibly leave the party. McDonnell as Shadow Chancellor is dynamite. You didn't want Corbyn, you didn't want Mcdonnell. You say plenty will leave the party, so be it, shit loads more have joined. Labour are not pretend Tories anymore, some things are going to be up for discussion rather than policy being dictated by the right wing press. I don't get how you seem to know exactly what the outcome of these discussions will be to such an extent that you are already anticipating some king of mass exodus. Nowt is written in stone, hold your horses and join in the debate rather than take the, they are wrong and we are right stance so early in proceedings. You may be surprised. |
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Post by kbillyh on Sept 14, 2015 0:16:02 GMT
Des ...the last Labour government achieved a great deal . Your perception or recollection of it maybe somewhat tainted so I'm not going to enter into a vociferous argument over it . Google Tony Blairs 50 greatest achievements and it will point you in the right direction . I don't don't know what's happened to the Labour Party , but I suspect the start of its fall from grace started with Ed Milliband becoming leader . It has been in terminal decline ever since . If that's not bad enough , the forces of evil have colluded to present us with Jeremy Corbyn . Here's a man who will deliver . He'll deliver everything that was Labour during the 1970s and beyond . He's the original placard dwelling , CND supporting Luvvie , who if allowed would accommodate economic migrants from Gambia without a moments hesitation ... He doesn't appreciate England's ' Green and pleasant land ' ......he rather visit the local Kurdish community in Islington or the opening of a new Mosque being opened in Hackney by Daine Abbott or Gorgeous George Galloway . This is 'New Labour ' ....Gay pride ..CND ..Mass Immigration ...Ban the Bomb ....Love thy neighbour ....We are all the same ....Would you like to borrow my bike ? Crap and Bollocks . Mumf Gibberish to the point of embarrassing. You stick with UKIP youth instead of pretending Labour were ever an option and the latest developments have been a sudden deciding factor for you to dismiss them. Love thy Neigbour indeed..........Alf Garnet anyone. |
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Post by adri2008 on Sept 14, 2015 7:29:15 GMT
I like Corbyn's straight talking manner but I think this is going to be a disaster for Labour when it comes to the crunch. Perception is important in politics (the public never really saw Miliband as PM) and Corbyn/McDonnell both have many skeleton's in the closet which will be rolled out continually towards the election.
Labour have a mountain to climb regardless - the SNP won't lose many (or any) seats until they have enough rope to hang themselves and middle class English marginals will lean towards sticking with the devil they know unless there is another recession.
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 14, 2015 7:34:44 GMT
I'm not going to go into what I do for a living as that's in direct contravention of message board rules and rather unfair, if you don't mind me saying so. For many, me included, Labour is an internationalist party that believes in solidarity and multilateralism. As the infamous Labour Party membership card says; ‘by the strength of our common endeavour we achieve more together than we do alone’. This article sums things up nicely - www.progressonline.org.uk/2015/09/09/labour-must-remain-true-to-our-internationalist-values/The only thing I will add is that, with the announcement a few moments ago of John McDonnell as Shadow Chancellor, I would be less inclined to think that people will move to the hypothetical backbenches. More that people will now possibly leave the party. McDonnell as Shadow Chancellor is dynamite. You didn't want Corbyn, you didn't want Mcdonnell. You say plenty will leave the party, so be it, shit loads more have joined. Labour are not pretend Tories anymore, some things are going to be up for discussion rather than policy being dictated by the right wing press. I don't get how you seem to know exactly what the outcome of these discussions will be to such an extent that you are already anticipating some king of mass exodus. Nowt is written in stone, hold your horses and join in the debate rather than take the, they are wrong and we are right stance so early in proceedings. You may be surprised. I'm unsure as to what you're point is - other than to suggest that the views of longstanding Labour Party members doesn't matter as new members have joined. It's really disingenuous of you given that those same members have fought over 30 years of local, European and General elections for the Labour Party. Incidentally I wonder how many of the "one click £3" members will take to the streets on the campaign trail next year for the local elections... Many of those inside the Labour Party who I have spoken with are thinking about leaving the party. I've mentioned this previous to the outcome of the election and I've even mentioned over which issues they would be troubled by - economics and foreign policy which is incidentally why I speak of foreign policy so frequently. We discuss it an awful lot in the CLP. I also said that if John McDonnell got the Shadow Cancellor job then there would be trouble both inside and outside the party. Therefore it shouldn't come as a surprise to hear that longtime Labour Party members are thinking of leaving I'm happy that Corbyn won and that the Labour Party has chosen its new political direction. However Labour Party moderates are just as entitled to their view as you are and it's no secret there are fundamental differences over certain policy areas. There is no monopoly on political opinion. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Sept 14, 2015 7:52:19 GMT
All these ex shadow cabinet ministers that are now going to serve the 'Party' from the backbenches should go back to their constintuancy committees and offer their resignation. Of course they won't but from what I see of them, they no longer stand for what the majority of labour supporter seem to want.
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Post by kbillyh on Sept 14, 2015 8:54:24 GMT
You didn't want Corbyn, you didn't want Mcdonnell. You say plenty will leave the party, so be it, shit loads more have joined. Labour are not pretend Tories anymore, some things are going to be up for discussion rather than policy being dictated by the right wing press. I don't get how you seem to know exactly what the outcome of these discussions will be to such an extent that you are already anticipating some king of mass exodus. Nowt is written in stone, hold your horses and join in the debate rather than take the, they are wrong and we are right stance so early in proceedings. You may be surprised. I'm unsure as to what you're point is - other than to suggest that the views of longstanding Labour Party members doesn't matter as new members have joined. It's really disingenuous of you given that those same members have fought over 30 years of local, European and General elections for the Labour Party. Incidentally I wonder how many of the "one click £3" members will take to the streets on the campaign trail next year for the local elections... Many of those inside the Labour Party who I have spoken with are thinking about leaving the party. I've mentioned this previous to the outcome of the election and I've even mentioned over which issues they would be troubled by - economics and foreign policy which is incidentally why I speak of foreign policy so frequently. We discuss it an awful lot in the CLP. I also said that if John McDonnell got the Shadow Cancellor job then there would be trouble both inside and outside the party. Therefore it shouldn't come as a surprise to hear that longtime Labour Party members are thinking of leaving I'm happy that Corbyn won and that the Labour Party has chosen its new political direction. However Labour Party moderates are just as entitled to their view as you are and it's no secret there are fundamental differences over certain policy areas. There is no monopoly on political opinion. That's not my point at all as well you know, if they are threatening to leave already then they are not fit to be part of the discussions. The Campaign for the GE was completely devoid of grass roots enthusiasm, it has to have been one of the most unenthusiastic exercises ever conducted by Labour for GE, how can you think it could possibly be worse? It's you being the disingenuous one, dismissing new blood so easily by repeating the soundbite of "one click £3"......that kind of language from a Labour insider is exactly the kind of thing they need least, akin to towing the line according to the right wing press who will do their utmost to discredit this upsurge of interest. Just hold your horses with the doom mongering, a lot of this thread has consisted of you posting links from various nay sayers in the press regarding Corbyn, and now you are pre empting the forthcoming divide with tales of woe regarding another appointment... discuss the policies as and when they are individually raised rather than repeat everything negative you hear. |
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Sept 14, 2015 9:14:49 GMT
I'm unsure as to what you're point is - other than to suggest that the views of longstanding Labour Party members doesn't matter as new members have joined. It's really disingenuous of you given that those same members have fought over 30 years of local, European and General elections for the Labour Party. Incidentally I wonder how many of the "one click £3" members will take to the streets on the campaign trail next year for the local elections... Many of those inside the Labour Party who I have spoken with are thinking about leaving the party. I've mentioned this previous to the outcome of the election and I've even mentioned over which issues they would be troubled by - economics and foreign policy which is incidentally why I speak of foreign policy so frequently. We discuss it an awful lot in the CLP. I also said that if John McDonnell got the Shadow Cancellor job then there would be trouble both inside and outside the party. Therefore it shouldn't come as a surprise to hear that longtime Labour Party members are thinking of leaving I'm happy that Corbyn won and that the Labour Party has chosen its new political direction. However Labour Party moderates are just as entitled to their view as you are and it's no secret there are fundamental differences over certain policy areas. There is no monopoly on political opinion. That's not my point at all as well you know, if they are threatening to leave already then they are not fit to be part of the discussions. The Campaign for the GE was completely devoid of grass roots enthusiasm, it has to have been one of the most unenthusiastic exercises ever conducted by Labour for GE, how can you think it could possibly be worse? It's you being the disingenuous one, dismissing new blood so easily by repeating the soundbite of "one click £3"......that kind of language from a Labour insider is exactly the kind of thing they need least, akin to towing the line according to the right wing press who will do their utmost to discredit this upsurge of interest. Just hold your horses with the doom mongering, a lot of this thread has consisted of you posting links from various nay sayers in the press regarding Corbyn, and now you are pre empting the forthcoming divide with tales of woe regarding another appointment... discuss the policies as and when they are individually raised rather than repeat everything negative you hear. He rarely provides original insight, and chose to ignore my direct questions to him about which of the other candidates he would choose, (which would have required him to lay his own beliefs down, instead of regurgitating the views of others) and why. He's trolled his way through this thread from the very beginning. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2015 11:20:32 GMT
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 14, 2015 12:53:38 GMT
The question now is does having a wee sing song in a pub make you more or less electable as prime minister?
I think there's a fair chance this video will crop up in the run up to the next election. But not in a Labour Party political broadcast.
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Post by Biblical on Sept 14, 2015 13:01:41 GMT
Now where have i ever said that you silly boy. runner  Nice delflection there Harry. Why the bitterness? |
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Post by salopstick on Sept 14, 2015 13:28:51 GMT
I predict his resignation within a week of the 2020 election result.
If labour MPs don't force him out earlier
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Post by upthefud on Sept 14, 2015 13:31:36 GMT
He'll end the Greens (thankfully) but I think UKIP will surge in the coming months.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 14, 2015 13:44:28 GMT
Nicely balanced shadow cabinet there, see the racist anti white Abbott has been included, suprised to see that even racists are welcomed by Mr Corbyn  |
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 14, 2015 13:46:35 GMT
He'll end the Greens (thankfully) but I think UKIP will surge in the coming months. Good on him can not stand vegetables especially those cabbages, and yes I can also see a surge in UKIP supporters in the near future. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2015 13:56:10 GMT
I predict his resignation within a week of the 2020 election result. If labour MPs don't force him out earlier I predict he will be ousted in a matter of months . I mentioned last night prior to his announcing who was in his shadow cabinet that he liked the likes of Diane Abbott ......and the rest is history as they say . One or two comments of gibberish rubbish were made against me , but less than 10 hours later , the gibberish rubbish became reality . Alf Garnett was also mentioned , but to my knowledge I don't think he's made it into the shadow cabinet. Again as predicted there is a big proportion of London MPs in there which was always going to happen. What transpires from now is more of an endurance test in terms of how long he will last . His boast of unifying the party is nothing short of a tub thumping complete and utter joke . Ken Livingstone spoke well of him though ....no surprises there then either . I also expect that at some stage gorgeous George Galloway will be inspired to make an entrance back into the party .....possibly dressed as a cat .? Here are Billy Bongos inspired words of wisdom on the matter in relation to Daine Abbott etc .....and I quote : Gibberish to the point of embarrassing. You stick with UKIP youth instead of pretending Labour were ever an option and the latest developments have been a sudden deciding factor for you to dismiss them. Love thy Neigbour indeed..........Alf Garnet anyone. Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/244912/labour-leadership?page=53#ixzz3limSChmz |
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Post by salopstick on Sept 14, 2015 14:17:44 GMT
I predict his resignation within a week of the 2020 election result. If labour MPs don't force him out earlier I predict he will be ousted in a matter of months . I mentioned last night prior to his announcing who was in his shadow cabinet that he liked the likes of Diane Abbott ......and the rest is history as they say . One or two comments of gibberish rubbish were made against me , but less than 10 hours later , the gibberish rubbish became reality . Alf Garnett was also mentioned , but to my knowledge I don't think he's made it into the shadow cabinet. Again as predicted there is a big proportion of London MPs in there which was always going to happen. What transpires from now is more of an endurance test in terms of how long he will last . His boast of unifying the party is nothing short of a tub thumping complete and utter joke . Ken Livingstone spoke well of him though ....no surprises there then either . I also expect that at some stage gorgeous George Galloway will be inspired to make an entrance back into the party .....possibly dressed as a cat .? Here are Billy Bongos inspired words of wisdom on the matter in relation to Daine Abbott etc .....and I quote : Gibberish to the point of embarrassing. You stick with UKIP youth instead of pretending Labour were ever an option and the latest developments have been a sudden deciding factor for you to dismiss them. Love thy Neigbour indeed..........Alf Garnet anyone. Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/244912/labour-leadership?page=53#ixzz3limSChmzIt's a bit like the league cup and friendlies where players on the fringe get to have a game. Come the main event the main guys get back in |
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Post by desman2 on Sept 14, 2015 14:19:00 GMT
Just past a copy of the Sun in the newsagent. You can "win a vest like Jezza,s"
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Post by stokeharry on Sept 14, 2015 14:21:24 GMT
runner Nice delflection there Harry. Why the bitterness? Calm down cooker monster . I love you and wish you well in life and I'm happy to help you through your struggles . Love , my brother , it's what makes the world go round . Stop the hatred and welcome me as your fellow man as I do with you  |
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Post by Biblical on Sept 14, 2015 14:23:30 GMT
I predict his resignation within a week of the 2020 election result. If labour MPs don't force him out earlier I predict he will be ousted in a matter of months . I mentioned last night prior to his announcing who was in his shadow cabinet that he liked the likes of Diane Abbott ......and the rest is history as they say . One or two comments of gibberish rubbish were made against me , but less than 10 hours later , the gibberish rubbish became reality . Alf Garnett was also mentioned , but to my knowledge I don't think he's made it into the shadow cabinet. Again as predicted there is a big proportion of London MPs in there which was always going to happen. What transpires from now is more of an endurance test in terms of how long he will last . His boast of unifying the party is nothing short of a tub thumping complete and utter joke . Ken Livingstone spoke well of him though ....no surprises there then either . I also expect that at some stage gorgeous George Galloway will be inspired to make an entrance back into the party .....possibly dressed as a cat .? Here are Billy Bongos inspired words of wisdom on the matter in relation to Daine Abbott etc .....and I quote : Gibberish to the point of embarrassing. You stick with UKIP youth instead of pretending Labour were ever an option and the latest developments have been a sudden deciding factor for you to dismiss them. Love thy Neigbour indeed..........Alf Garnet anyone. Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/244912/labour-leadership?page=53#ixzz3limSChmzBrilliant, you've posted further gibberish nonsense ................... to try and prove the point that you don't post gibberish nonsense  |
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Post by Biblical on Sept 14, 2015 14:29:43 GMT
Nice delflection there Harry. Why the bitterness? Calm down cooker monster . I love you and wish you well in life and I'm happy to help you through your struggles . Love , my brother , it's what makes the world go round . Stop the hatred and welcome me as your fellow man as I do with you You know I'm all about peave and love brother. I can understand why you'd defend your point of view against critcism from others but I don't get why you've adopted an all out siege mentally against anything remotely 'left' which involves continually degrading anyone who disagrees with you. You'd get a lot more respect if you didn't resort to the name calling amongst other things. If you've got decent points to make (which I'm sure you have) then let your reasoned and well articulated views do the talking for you  |
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Post by stokeharry on Sept 14, 2015 14:39:58 GMT
Calm down cooker monster . I love you and wish you well in life and I'm happy to help you through your struggles . Love , my brother , it's what makes the world go round . Stop the hatred and welcome me as your fellow man as I do with you You know I'm all about peave and love brother. I can understand why you'd defend your point of view against critcism from others but I don't get why you've adopted an all out siege mentally against anything remotely 'left' which involves continually degrading anyone who disagrees with you. You'd get a lot more respect if you didn't resort to the name calling amongst other things. If you've got decent points to make (which I'm sure you have) then let your reasoned and well articulated views do the talking for you I'm all for doing exactly as you suggest which I have tried to do on many occasions but the "left" don't reciprocate . When you disagree with them the insults and mard arsing starts so what's the point in trying to debate with these "people" it's easier to play them at their own game . It takes two to have an adult like discussion and you'll find its never me that starts with the name calling and I rarely quote any lefty on here unless they quote me first . Respect from the leftys on here isn't something I seek . In fact being disliked by them reaffirms that what I believe is true . The people that matter have respect for me and I have respect for them . I'll never have the time of day for anyone that sets double standards and supports uncapped immigration but I'm happy to agree to disagree without the need for insults but I'm also happy to respond with insults if they try to insult me first ....childish I know , welcome to the sad weird world of the internet |
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Post by stokeharry on Sept 14, 2015 14:44:50 GMT
Huddy ( of bullying fame) kept his party allegience secret for years ...... It's only fairly recently that he has " Come Out " ....  Homophobic jibes yet again. You're a prick of the highest order. Not very peaceful or loving that mate  Just because mumf disagrees with you it doesn't mean you should call him "a prick of the highest order" , that would be an insult and akin to Internet bullying |
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Post by kbillyh on Sept 14, 2015 14:50:37 GMT
I predict his resignation within a week of the 2020 election result. If labour MPs don't force him out earlier I predict he will be ousted in a matter of months . I mentioned last night prior to his announcing who was in his shadow cabinet that he liked the likes of Diane Abbott ......and the rest is history as they say . One or two comments of gibberish rubbish were made against me , but less than 10 hours later , the gibberish rubbish became reality . Alf Garnett was also mentioned , but to my knowledge I don't think he's made it into the shadow cabinet. Again as predicted there is a big proportion of London MPs in there which was always going to happen. What transpires from now is more of an endurance test in terms of how long he will last . His boast of unifying the party is nothing short of a tub thumping complete and utter joke . Ken Livingstone spoke well of him though ....no surprises there then either . I also expect that at some stage gorgeous George Galloway will be inspired to make an entrance back into the party .....possibly dressed as a cat .? Here are Billy Bongos inspired words of wisdom on the matter in relation to Daine Abbott etc .....and I quote : Gibberish to the point of embarrassing. You stick with UKIP youth instead of pretending Labour were ever an option and the latest developments have been a sudden deciding factor for you to dismiss them. Love thy Neigbour indeed..........Alf Garnet anyone. Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/244912/labour-leadership?page=53#ixzz3limSChmzThat really did get a genuine laugh out loud from me there, good work Mumf. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 14, 2015 15:32:34 GMT
The question now is does having a wee sing song in a pub make you more or less electable as prime minister? I think there's a fair chance this video will crop up in the run up to the next election. But not in a Labour Party political broadcast. Voice of an angel. |
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Sept 14, 2015 15:46:57 GMT
You know I'm all about peave and love brother. I can understand why you'd defend your point of view against critcism from others but I don't get why you've adopted an all out siege mentally against anything remotely 'left' which involves continually degrading anyone who disagrees with you. You'd get a lot more respect if you didn't resort to the name calling amongst other things. If you've got decent points to make (which I'm sure you have) then let your reasoned and well articulated views do the talking for you I'm all for doing exactly as you suggest which I have tried to do on many occasions but the "left" don't reciprocate . When you disagree with them the insults and mard arsing starts so what's the point in trying to debate with these "people" it's easier to play them at their own game . It takes two to have an adult like discussion and you'll find its never me that starts with the name calling and I rarely quote any lefty on here unless they quote me first . Respect from the leftys on here isn't something I seek . In fact being disliked by them reaffirms that what I believe is true . The people that matter have respect for me and I have respect for them . I'll never have the time of day for anyone that sets double standards and supports uncapped immigration but I'm happy to agree to disagree without the need for insults but I'm also happy to respond with insults if they try to insult me first ....childish I know , welcome to the sad weird world of the internet You're not allowed to insult certain people... even if it just a reactionary manner or a flash of the pan out of character reaction and you were wound up by that individual (when you would normally just walk away).... you'll get banned while they carry on... not that I'm slightly peeved about it honest!  |
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Post by Biblical on Sept 14, 2015 15:47:30 GMT
Homophobic jibes yet again. You're a prick of the highest order. Not very peaceful or loving that mate Just because mumf disagrees with you it doesn't mean you should call him "a prick of the highest order" , that would be an insult and akin to Internet bullying You're quite right brother but much like yourself I'm about giving respect where it's due and I've got zero tolerance for homophobia, as seeing as though mumf has previously been warned by admin for making homophobic remarks you'd think he'd realise it's not acceptable but nope he's carried on and hasn't showed any sort of comprehension that such views are completely unacceptable in an educated, modern society. If mumf were willing to acknowledge that there's nothing wrong with being gay I'd be more than happy to take back my remarks Peace and love. |
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Post by kbillyh on Sept 14, 2015 16:06:01 GMT
Not very peaceful or loving that mate Just because mumf disagrees with you it doesn't mean you should call him "a prick of the highest order" , that would be an insult and akin to Internet bullying You're quite right brother but much like yourself I'm about giving respect where it's due and I've got zero tolerance for homophobia, as seeing as though mumf has previously been warned by admin for making homophobic remarks you'd think he'd realise it's not acceptable but nope he's carried on and hasn't showed any sort of comprehension that such views are completely unacceptable in an educated, modern society. If mumf were willing to acknowledge that there's nothing wrong with being gay I'd be more than happy to take back my remarks Peace and love. Your wasting you breath on this one mate, he's the sort that gloats upon hearing about the deaths of women and children in the recent crane accident at Mecca........... he hates Muslims that much. Of course he doesn't think it's wrong to think like he does and takes it as some kind of approval that such comments are met with insults. He's a prize Bell End. |
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Post by derrida1437 on Sept 14, 2015 16:09:36 GMT
I'm unsure as to what you're point is - other than to suggest that the views of longstanding Labour Party members doesn't matter as new members have joined. It's really disingenuous of you given that those same members have fought over 30 years of local, European and General elections for the Labour Party. Incidentally I wonder how many of the "one click £3" members will take to the streets on the campaign trail next year for the local elections... Many of those inside the Labour Party who I have spoken with are thinking about leaving the party. I've mentioned this previous to the outcome of the election and I've even mentioned over which issues they would be troubled by - economics and foreign policy which is incidentally why I speak of foreign policy so frequently. We discuss it an awful lot in the CLP. I also said that if John McDonnell got the Shadow Cancellor job then there would be trouble both inside and outside the party. Therefore it shouldn't come as a surprise to hear that longtime Labour Party members are thinking of leaving I'm happy that Corbyn won and that the Labour Party has chosen its new political direction. However Labour Party moderates are just as entitled to their view as you are and it's no secret there are fundamental differences over certain policy areas. There is no monopoly on political opinion. That's not my point at all as well you know, if they are threatening to leave already then they are not fit to be part of the discussions. The Campaign for the GE was completely devoid of grass roots enthusiasm, it has to have been one of the most unenthusiastic exercises ever conducted by Labour for GE, how can you think it could possibly be worse? It's you being the disingenuous one, dismissing new blood so easily by repeating the soundbite of "one click £3"......that kind of language from a Labour insider is exactly the kind of thing they need least, akin to towing the line according to the right wing press who will do their utmost to discredit this upsurge of interest. Just hold your horses with the doom mongering, a lot of this thread has consisted of you posting links from various nay sayers in the press regarding Corbyn, and now you are pre empting the forthcoming divide with tales of woe regarding another appointment... discuss the policies as and when they are individually raised rather than repeat everything negative you hear. I understand what you're saying - and for the sake of clarity I'm not suggesting I'm going to leave, just that I know others are. I'd much sooner see what happens to be honest. I think people know what my main concerns are ;-) Again I only report what I hear in CLP. It's not intended to offend it's just telling you what's being mentioned to me on the ground really. The rights and wrongs of sudden abandonment have been mentioned before by you and, yes, maybe it is premature of them. Of course it should be mentioned that an awful lot of people have already argued about Corbyn's policies within the CLP. It's just that you don't hear that in the mainstream media. I'm not going to apologise for putting forward various moderate views of Labour Party issues. From what I can make out the majority in my CLP are excited yet bloody nervous about what's coming to be frank. And let's be honest - politics in Britain (for now) has a clear divide. It's certainly refreshing. |
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Post by bathstoke on Sept 14, 2015 16:10:57 GMT
I'm all for doing exactly as you suggest which I have tried to do on many occasions but the "left" don't reciprocate . When you disagree with them the insults and mard arsing starts so what's the point in trying to debate with these "people" it's easier to play them at their own game . It takes two to have an adult like discussion and you'll find its never me that starts with the name calling and I rarely quote any lefty on here unless they quote me first . Respect from the leftys on here isn't something I seek . In fact being disliked by them reaffirms that what I believe is true . The people that matter have respect for me and I have respect for them . I'll never have the time of day for anyone that sets double standards and supports uncapped immigration but I'm happy to agree to disagree without the need for insults but I'm also happy to respond with insults if they try to insult me first ....childish I know , welcome to the sad weird world of the internet You're not allowed to insult certain people... even if it just a reactionary manner or a flash of the pan out of character reaction and you were wound up by that individual (when you would normally just walk away).... you'll get banned while they carry on... not that I'm slightly peeved about it honest! What he'll be doing is approaching Admin as some sort of aggrieved victim. He's got form |
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Post by stokeharry on Sept 14, 2015 16:16:01 GMT
Anyone got a pipe , flat cap and bike I can borrow ? I'm sure billy no mates has mate billy is the kind of person that thinks only whites can be racist . He makes excuses for minorities just because they are minorities even when they are in the wrong . He does this because he is desperate to appear anti racist when he is exactly the opposite . It comes from being spoilt as a child and not having lived in the real world . He's harmless really and not to be taken seriously . As you have acknowledged in the past he's a two faced hypocrite cock sucker and not all there in the head |
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