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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 12, 2015 0:34:43 GMT
I well accustomed to insult . Let me know if you do ever get round to answering my questions .... You should not have to get accustomed to being insulted on here because you have opinions that others dislike .....that last sentence which the author quickly erased was uncalled for and unnecessary poor stuff in what is supposed to be a debate between adults .....just a further example of how this forum appears to be in decline Pompous and arrogant as always. Always concentrating on the messenger rather than the message. Always trivialising views he doesn't agree with. Always making light of views he doesn't understand. Always making 'jokes' out of serioud threads he doesn't like. Always relying on playing the ex-forces card to extricate him from the pompous bullshit he posts. Always relying on Lackeys like mumf and others to support his pompousity. Welcome aboard Bish.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 1:03:23 GMT
You should not have to get accustomed to being insulted on here because you have opinions that others dislike .....that last sentence which the author quickly erased was uncalled for and unnecessary poor stuff in what is supposed to be a debate between adults .....just a further example of how this forum appears to be in decline Pompous and arrogant as always. Always concentrating on the messenger rather than the message. Always trivialising views he doesn't agree with. Always making light of views he doesn't understand. Always relying on playing the ex-forces card to extricate him from the pompous bullshit he posts Welcome aboard Bish. I understand your views completely .....I just don't agree with them ......so therefore I must be thick because I make light of them ..... I don't need the support of any lackeys or anybody else on here ..... Typical response from the left wing though ....Lets call people names ......childish and pathetic .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 1:11:07 GMT
You should not have to get accustomed to being insulted on here because you have opinions that others dislike .....that last sentence which the author quickly erased was uncalled for and unnecessary poor stuff in what is supposed to be a debate between adults .....just a further example of how this forum appears to be in decline Pompous and arrogant as always. Always concentrating on the messenger rather than the message. Always trivialising views he doesn't agree with. Always making light of views he doesn't understand. Always making 'jokes' out of serioud threads he doesn't like. Always relying on playing the ex-forces card to extricate him from the pompous bullshit he posts. Always relying on Lackeys like mumf and others to support his pompousity. Welcome aboard Bish. How many more edits are you going to make ?
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 12, 2015 1:22:32 GMT
Pompous and arrogant as always. Always concentrating on the messenger rather than the message. Always trivialising views he doesn't agree with. Always making light of views he doesn't understand. Always relying on playing the ex-forces card to extricate him from the pompous bullshit he posts Welcome aboard Bish. I understand your views completely .....I just don't agree with them ......so therefore I must be thick because I make light of them ..... I don't need the support of any lackeys or anybody else on here ..... Typical response from the left wing though ....Lets call people names ......childish and pathetic . Typical response from the left wing though...? Lets call people names.... CHILDISH AND PATHETIC So let's here that again.... Typical response from the left wing LETS CALL PEOPLE NAMES.... CHILDISH AND PATHETIC... One more time? I think not.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 12, 2015 1:26:09 GMT
Pompous and arrogant as always. Always concentrating on the messenger rather than the message. Always trivialising views he doesn't agree with. Always making light of views he doesn't understand. Always making 'jokes' out of serioud threads he doesn't like. Always relying on playing the ex-forces card to extricate him from the pompous bullshit he posts. Always relying on Lackeys like mumf and others to support his pompousity. Welcome aboard Bish. How many more edits are you going to make ? As many as I like. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you are in any position to dictate Editorial Policy on The Oatcake. Would you agree/disagree? Old chap.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 1:30:39 GMT
I understand your views completely .....I just don't agree with them ......so therefore I must be thick because I make light of them ..... I don't need the support of any lackeys or anybody else on here ..... Typical response from the left wing though ....Lets call people names ......childish and pathetic . Typical response from the left wing though...? Lets call people names.... CHILDISH AND PATHETIC So let's here that again.... Typical response from the left wing LETS CALL PEOPLE NAMES.... CHILDISH AND PATHETIC... One more time? I think not. No don't lets overdo it ......that's more than adequate .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 1:32:48 GMT
How many more edits are you going to make ? As many as I like. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you are in any position to dictate Editorial Policy on The Oatcake. Would you agree/disagree? Old chap. I wouldn't dream of trying to correct you .......could such a thing be possible ?
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 12, 2015 1:54:51 GMT
Once again Bish...lets go for the messenger rather than the message.
Why do you always personalise things?
Anyone would think you were devoid of any intellectual arguments based on current Economic/Political theoritical models.
Now we wouldn't want that would we?
But hey..lets ignore the theory and try to take the piss out of the individual.
In the hope that most Oatcake readers are too thick too differentiate between the two.
Jesus H Christ !!
ANOTHER EDIT :-(
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Post by deadwood on Aug 12, 2015 4:02:57 GMT
Sorry but that is not at all correct. Corbyn's platform is a solid one that puts British people first and foremost. Not millionaires and corporates. That's why he's carrying so much momentum. If you cant see it for what it is then I really don't see how you can form an opinion around the issue. It's not hard to understand. My opinion is based on the fact that I was a paid trade unionist official . Someone who has met scores of Labour MPs past and present . Someone who has been there , seen it and done it . I have been to many union conferences around the country ....Blackpool , Hastings , Morecambe .et etc ...as a delegate and speaker . What exactly do you base your wise words of wisdom on ? Have you ever represented anyone other than yourself ? What practical experience of trade unionism do you have ? How many times have you been to conferences ? Politics is about winners and winning ....not losers and losing . The level of stupidity and thick pig ignorance on this board is something to behold Vote Corbyn and you will never win an election . If that's what's important to you , then do it . It's fucking idiotic beyond belief . I've seen the unprecedented support ....they're mainly imposters who know how important it is for them to get Corbyn elected . Already over a thousand applications have been thrown out ......FFS ! How fucking blinkered do you have to be ....? How long do you want to be in the shadows . .? By the next election Labour will be the third party behind UKIP . That's the reality of the situation . That's why over four million voted for Farage ......EX LABOUR supporters ....Harry Carps BIg John ...etc .... There's plenty more where that came from too . But let's not stop there ....let's look over the border in Scotland . The home of guaranteed rock solid Labour Support......Gone ....FInished ....wiped out and humiliated . The End . Steady on! Keep it civil. Surely with all your Trade Union experience you would welcome a Corbyn led Labour Party? What you are saying just doesn't add up for a dyed in the wool Labour man or anyone with half a brain reading this thread. Mumf, the unions are the Corbyn powerbase. And in Scotland the Labour party lost out to the SNP due to offering a Tory Lite manifesto. They are known as Red Tories up there. The SNP offered a stronger more left wing choice and we all know the result. So how can a man of your experience and insight not understand that one simple fact. And winning? Democratic party politics is first and foremost about conviction and belief. Elections are the democratic vehicle in which the country decides whether or not a party's political policies are worthwhile or not. This is the process we know as democracy. We are currently wallowing in a hate-filled and negative political ditch where personal insults are the norm and the country has no real choice - only Tory or Tory-lite. This simply has to change and the other three leadership candidates are merely offering more of the same. That's why Corbyn is flying. This is true democracy in action. Jeremy Corbyn is forcing the issue within the Labour Party to re-assess what it actually stands for, what it actually is; what are its core principles and values? Hopefully the nation will see the fruits of this internal leadership debate in the Labour Party manifesto at the next General Election in 2020 - just as the Scots did with the SNP manifesto at the last one. The notion that Corbyn is firmly unelectable is frankly ludicrous. This country needs an effective opposition and a clear choice on polling day. Tory-lite is definitely not the answer. Why cant you grasp this Mumf? I'm sorry but what you are saying just doesnt seem to add up. The way you describe your union roots and the way in which you support UKIP's immigration policies are at odds with one another. You're either lying about what you are or are having a serious political identity crisis in your own head about what sort of political animal you are in 2015. A UKIP man or a Labour man? A true former Trade Union guy would be sickened by Farage and his policies. I'd hate to think you are a liar and I honestly don't think that you are, but you can't wear both political hats without looking fairly silly Mumf.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 6:33:09 GMT
When the dust settles after this election the line will be drawn in the sand .
On one side their will be me .
On the other , the looney left of the party .
I will bookmark this exchange of views .
I will then reproduce it and laugh.
The excuse will be ....but we needed to have the debate .
Yeah , of course.
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Post by deadwood on Aug 12, 2015 6:42:48 GMT
When the dust settles after this election the line will be drawn in the sand . On one side their will be me . On the other , the looney left of the party . I will bookmark this exchange of views . I will then reproduce it and laugh. The excuse will be ....but we needed to have the debate . Yeah , of course. One can only conclude that you clearly think that British politics and the Labour Party are both in rude health. What is it that you are so very afraid of? Corbyn = democracy democracy = healthy country Mumf = confused.com
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 6:55:43 GMT
When the dust settles after this election the line will be drawn in the sand . On one side their will be me . On the other , the looney left of the party . I will bookmark this exchange of views . I will then reproduce it and laugh. The excuse will be ....but we needed to have the debate . Yeah , of course. One can only conclude that you clearly think that British politics and the Labour Party are both in rude health. What is it that you are so very afraid of? Corbyn = democracy democracy = healthy country Mumf = confused.com I'm not in the business of countering petty stupid ridiculous comments like that or indeed the thinly veiled accusations you have written previously . I'm out .....but you will hear from me in about three to six months time when the reality of the situation comes back to bite you on the backside. That ...you can guarantee.
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Post by deadwood on Aug 12, 2015 7:07:48 GMT
One can only conclude that you clearly think that British politics and the Labour Party are both in rude health. What is it that you are so very afraid of? Corbyn = democracy democracy = healthy country Mumf = confused.com I'm not in the business of countering petty stupid ridiculous comments like that or indeed the thinly veiled accusations you have written previously . I'm out .....but you will hear from me in about three to six months time when the reality of the situation comes back to bite you on the backside. That ...you can guarantee. So how do you imagine the scenario will play out? I can't see any of the others defeating Corbyn. That means Corbyn WILL be leader and the 2020 election will be a formality for Labour once the public have a full 4 years to grasp Corbynomics. There is no other way it can play out. The tricky bit will be a second term for Corbyn in the 2025 election. He'll do it. That ...you can guarantee. I'll nail your hat on.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 12, 2015 7:29:35 GMT
I like many of the things /ideas Corbyn has. He is right on things like renationalisation of the public services /utilities and the "hidden" economy. First problem ,in my opinion , the electorate are not ready for what will be PERCEIVED and PORTRAYED to be left wing,even if he is correct. Secondly he will be slaughtered because the ECONOMY will not be SEEN as central to his thinking ( the electorate have been inculcated not to cope with someone who thinks outside the box) Thirdly his stance on CND but particularly NATO will be rejected outright. Some of his past actions will be held against him.I agree with him talking to Hamas, most will not.Funnily enough though, I can't abide Gerry Adams, just my prejudice perhaps, based on personal stuff from Northern Irish friends. Finally his first task will be to sort out "his" own party in shock. See below. MPs will refuse to fill Labour front bench under Jeremy Corbyn, shadow cabinet ministers claim flip.it/jStcI
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Post by deadwood on Aug 12, 2015 7:44:28 GMT
I like many of the things /ideas Corbyn has. He is right on things like renationalisation of the public services /utilities and the "hidden" economy. First problem ,in my opinion , the electorate are not ready for what will be PERCEIVED and PORTRAYED to be left wing,even if he is correct. Secondly he will be slaughtered because the ECONOMY will not be SEEN as central to his thinking ( the electorate have been inculcated not to cope with someone who thinks outside the box) Thirdly his stance on CND but particularly NATO will be rejected outright. Some of his past actions will be held against him.I agree with him talking to Hamas, most will not.Funnily enough though, I can't abide Gerry Adams, just my prejudice perhaps, based on personal stuff from Northern Irish friends. Finally his first task will be to sort out "his" own party in shock. See below. MPs will refuse to fill Labour front bench under Jeremy Corbyn, shadow cabinet ministers claim flip.it/jStcILabour is a broad church, it's full of all sorts of politico's, she will be fine. If MP's refuse to sit under Corbyn, so be it. I'm frankly sick to death of Tory-Lite Chucka and his pals and the electorate in the main I strongly suspect is way smarter than most of the members of this board. Corbynomics will have four years to gestate and develop in the public psyche. Enough time to educate the masses that currently read The Daily Mail and watch The Great British Bake-Off etc. We have a Pulitzer winning prize newspaper called The Guardian to spread the word and a young genius political writer called Owen Jones who talks sense. The truth cannot be manipulated and controlled forever. It's time to wake up.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 12, 2015 8:02:45 GMT
I like many of the things /ideas Corbyn has. He is right on things like renationalisation of the public services /utilities and the "hidden" economy. First problem ,in my opinion , the electorate are not ready for what will be PERCEIVED and PORTRAYED to be left wing,even if he is correct. Secondly he will be slaughtered because the ECONOMY will not be SEEN as central to his thinking ( the electorate have been inculcated not to cope with someone who thinks outside the box) Thirdly his stance on CND but particularly NATO will be rejected outright. Some of his past actions will be held against him.I agree with him talking to Hamas, most will not.Funnily enough though, I can't abide Gerry Adams, just my prejudice perhaps, based on personal stuff from Northern Irish friends. Finally his first task will be to sort out "his" own party in shock. See below. MPs will refuse to fill Labour front bench under Jeremy Corbyn, shadow cabinet ministers claim flip.it/jStcILabour is a broad church, it's full of all sorts of politico's, she will be fine. If MP's refuse to sit under Corbyn, so be it. I'm frankly sick to death of Tory-Lite Chucka and his pals and the electorate in the main I strongly suspect is way smarter than most of the members of this board. Corbynomics will have four years to gestate and develop in the public psyche. Enough time to educate the masses that currently read The Daily Mail and watch The Great British Bake-Off etc. We have a Pulitzer winning prize newspaper called The Guardian to spread the word and a young genius political writer called Owen Jones who talks sense. The truth cannot be manipulated and controlled forever. It's time to wake up. and smell the coffee!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 8:23:29 GMT
I like many of the things /ideas Corbyn has. He is right on things like renationalisation of the public services /utilities and the "hidden" economy. First problem ,in my opinion , the electorate are not ready for what will be PERCEIVED and PORTRAYED to be left wing,even if he is correct. Secondly he will be slaughtered because the ECONOMY will not be SEEN as central to his thinking ( the electorate have been inculcated not to cope with someone who thinks outside the box) Thirdly his stance on CND but particularly NATO will be rejected outright. Some of his past actions will be held against him.I agree with him talking to Hamas, most will not.Funnily enough though, I can't abide Gerry Adams, just my prejudice perhaps, based on personal stuff from Northern Irish friends. Finally his first task will be to sort out "his" own party in shock. See below. MPs will refuse to fill Labour front bench under Jeremy Corbyn, shadow cabinet ministers claim flip.it/jStcII agree wholeheartedly with you once again ....word for word . However , I must urge a word of caution to you . As an ex Labour man yourself , you will be accused of being a traitor , lying , forgetting your working class roots and a whole host of other things . I doubt if it will unduly bother you , because deep down your understanding of politics and the way in which the Labour Party has changed is justification enough to have a clear and valid voice . It is not YOU that's changed ....it's the Labour party and as a result this has effectively forced you into a situation where important decisions have to be made . This simple course of events has had caused tens of thousands of Labour supporters major heartache and dismay . In many cases that decision has meant severing ties with the party and a move over to UKIP . It's not too difficult to understand why , and as we both know UKIP's policies are clear and unequivocal . The Labour Party is suffering from a major swing to the left as it battles to reestablish itself as a credible force in British politics . It is trying to move away from the centre ground and reinvent itself so that the electorate can clearly see the differences between itself and the Tories . The problem is , that in doing so , it is also alienating itself from millions of voters . The left wing of the party has once again took over control and is clearly in a mission of self destruction with Captain Corbyn at the helm . We both know how this will pan out . The gap between Labour and the Tories will become even bigger . This isn't so much an opinion , but a forgone conclusion . I truly believe that as a result , UKIP support will flourish . Big business and exporters may have a problem with this lol course , but that debate is for another day. I'd love to be proved wrong on my thoughts and the direction the Labour Party is going , but I won't be . I'd love to support another candidate in the leadership contest , but I find myself scratching my head in total apathy . None of the contenders have leadership qualities or the innate ability to unite support and take the party forward . To be fair , the other candidates have warned about the dangers of supporting Corbyn , but their wise words have fallen on deaf ears . It's exactly the scenario that I am facing on here . You have to be left wing or nothing . You have to shout as loud as you can and be a member of the most militant of unions . My problem is /was that my Union which I represented was one which believed in a more middle of the road brand of politics , where much greater numbers of people were attracted to its ranks in order to fight the common enemy ....The Tories . So , there are clear differences in my brand of politics which can be examined in the exchange of views between myself and Wizzardofdribble . You can clearly see the levels of outrage and animosity his brand of left wing politics exudes . As someone who is well versed in Economics , I would have expected a better understanding that bigger numbers of supporters with a broader cross section of support mean an overall victory for the party . He disagrees . He is not one for compromise . You see , his brand of economics is one born out of a text book . His understanding of how to win an election warped by his hatred of Tony Balir and the war in Iraq . He is pro CND , he admits he's left wing , he is CND , he is pro single sex marriage and I am not . Wizzardofdrizzle argues that I am inconsistent and a 'lackey' for people who in his opinion are more richer than I , because to him that's what really matters .... My reply to him and his merry band of left wing accusers , is that I don't judge a man on his wealth , but on his convictions and honesty . I have never been an advocate of CND , single sex marriage or mass immigration and a whole host of other issues that he thinks will win the next election .... Beyond the realms of fantasy . Mumf .....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 9:29:25 GMT
Once again Bish...lets go for the messenger rather than the message. Why do you always personalise things? Anyone would think you were devoid of any intellectual arguments based on current Economic/Political theoritical models. Now we wouldn't want that would we? But hey..lets ignore the theory and try to take the piss out of the individual. In the hope that most Oatcake readers are too thick too differentiate between the two. Jesus H Christ !! ANOTHER EDIT :-( I have not. " Gone " for you as you put it in any shape or form .....I merely pointed out that a personal insult you made towards another poster was unwarranted and unnecessary . You were the one who became personal on here not me , I have not attempted to take the " p*** " out of you or any one else . The thing is I am not really interested in who becomes the new Overlord of the Labour Party , so forgive me if I appear frivolous and do not get involved in an " Intelectual " debate on the merits of the candidates involved , I'm glad that's the case as I'm so obviously devoid of enough intelligence and intellect to do so ....I'm clearly out of my depth , so I will take my leave of this thread and leave you to it . Yes an edit .....merely for an error in spelling .
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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 12, 2015 9:57:10 GMT
The main thing to draw from this debate, thus far, is that clearly nobody knows what's going to happen. Everyone has opinions, some with more conviction than others it seems, but nobody knows anything. Typically not many objective facts are being provided either. Undecided moderate members of the party are currently gazing across the political landscape before them, listening to and reading the arguments, deciding whether they want to be a party of protest and opposition, or one of government. The one factor missing: you can't do anything in opposition. Governments change things. Labour's own research into the last general election categorically says that Labour lost it because the electorate's perception was that it was anti-austerity-lite under Milliband. That's not me talking, it's The Cruddas Report. The electorate as a whole has largely accepted some form of austerity is needed, whether we like it or not, frankly. As an undecided moderate, that fact has to be taken into objective consideration. We now have a situation whereby apparent former trade unionists are arguing against the one candidate who has unified trade union support for the first time in a generation. On the flip of that we have left-wingers, for years in the wilderness within the Labour Party, backing the candidate who clearly cannot unify Labour in its entirety. That's quite an achievement in irony for one debate whichever candidate you back. It's indicative of the debate so far, albeit on a football forum. www.politics.co.uk/news/2015/08/12/labour-mps-to-launch-coup-against-jeremy-corbyn-on-day-oneLabour members will weigh the situation up and vote accordingly, irrespective of the barnstorming, once we can actually vote! I'm undecided. I'm still considering the manifestos and the ideas put forward. One cannot make a fully informed decision without all of the information provided by each candidate, spelling out exactly which policy direction they want to take Labour in.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 12, 2015 17:40:08 GMT
Tony, Labour's greatest post war PM, after Attlee, is now getting in on the act.It seems to me that most of the criticism of Jeremy has come from within the party, not from those of the right. Tony Blair: Labour faces 'annihilation' if Jeremy Corbyn wins leadership gu.com/p/4bezk?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 12, 2015 17:52:23 GMT
Tony, Labour's greatest post war PM, after Attlee, is now getting in on the act.It seems to me that most of the criticism of Jeremy has come from within the party, not from those of the right. Tony Blair: Labour faces 'annihilation' if Jeremy Corbyn wins leadership gu.com/p/4bezk?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboardTony Blair is a Labour Party member and is as entitled to his view, as any. One member, one vote. It isn't, I should add, his first input into the Labour leadership debate, though. He makes some valid points. There is the distinct danger that the Labour Left become obsessed with change for changes sake without a valid appraisal relating to what the general public actually want.
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Post by dutchpeter72 on Aug 12, 2015 18:34:42 GMT
Tony, Labour's greatest post war PM, after Attlee, is now getting in on the act.It seems to me that most of the criticism of Jeremy has come from within the party, not from those of the right. Tony Blair: Labour faces 'annihilation' if Jeremy Corbyn wins leadership gu.com/p/4bezk?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboardI'd say Harold Wilsons 1964-1970 government had a significant change on society, in the respect of equality.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 12, 2015 18:41:46 GMT
Tony, Labour's greatest post war PM, after Attlee, is now getting in on the act.It seems to me that most of the criticism of Jeremy has come from within the party, not from those of the right. Tony Blair: Labour faces 'annihilation' if Jeremy Corbyn wins leadership gu.com/p/4bezk?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboardI'd say Harold Wilsons 1964-1970 government had a significant change on society, in the respect of equality. Yes , I agree really Dutch. I liked Harold. . I was just trying to be a bit sarcastic, given Labour supporters' latter day rejection of the great man.That didn't really happen to Wilson.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 12, 2015 18:47:10 GMT
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Post by kbillyh on Aug 12, 2015 19:13:42 GMT
Wow, the Jewish Chronicle!! Their input has certainly opened my mind as to what an anti-Semite and racist bugger that Corbyn really is. Doing a fair bit of research there BJR, really digging deep. Is that a publication you read on a regular basis then?
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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 12, 2015 19:15:24 GMT
That's an embarrassment of an article.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 12, 2015 19:28:30 GMT
Wow, the Jewish Chronicle!! Their input has certainly opened my mind as to what an anti-Semite and racist bugger that Corbyn really is. Doing a fair bit of research there BJR, really digging deep. Is that a publication you read on a regular basis then? Billy Not at all. I am interested in the Jewish religion though, and religion in general. I was just aware that Corbyn had spoken to Hamas ( which I agree with, his talking that is), and Hezbollah, so wondered what the Chronicle would think. Unfortunately politically a person has to be either pro-Palestinian or pro-Israeli, not being able to see the possible merits on both sides. Jeremy tried to be a peacemaker (I read the Methodist Recorder more often!)
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Post by stokeharry on Aug 12, 2015 19:29:41 GMT
Anti semitism seems to be common amongst leftist types. They see it as standing with the ones that can do no wrong , the ones that they constantly make apologies for (muslims). The Green Party as also been accused of anti semitism as I pointed out in May , if the same accusations were directed at the great Nigel Farage the left would be all over it like a tramp on a bag of chips. Hypocrites to a man
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 12, 2015 19:32:10 GMT
Anti semitism seems to be common amongst leftist types. They see it as standing with the ones that can do no wrong , the ones that they constantly make apologies for (muslims). The Green Party as also been accused of anti semitism as I pointed out in May , if the same accusations were directed at the great Nigel Farage the left would be all over it like a tramp on a bag of chips. Hypocrites to a man Anti-Zionism yes Anti-semitism no As usual you misunderstand everything and know nothing.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 12, 2015 19:33:09 GMT
That's an embarrassment of an article. Take it up with the editor
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