deadwood
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Prime Minister Corbyn
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Post by deadwood on Aug 11, 2015 18:25:15 GMT
What nonense? What is Corbyn saying that is nonsense? Give me one example of his "nonsence" to discuss with you. Plenty of people on here that will be happy to debate/discuss with you mate, I aren't one of them, I don't feel the need, I will not change my mind on Corbyn despite your best efforts and I doubt anyone else will , this is only the tinter-web after all
Vote UKIP 
But you haven't even said what you dislike about him Hazzer. Is it his beard. It must be?  Vote Labour. Vote Labour my son. |
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Post by stokeharry on Aug 11, 2015 18:29:50 GMT
Plenty of people on here that will be happy to debate/discuss with you mate, I aren't one of them, I don't feel the need, I will not change my mind on Corbyn despite your best efforts and I doubt anyone else will , this is only the tinter-web after all
Vote UKIP
But you haven't even said what you dislike about him Hazzer. Is it his beard. It must be? Vote Labour. Vote Labour my son. I've said in my previous posts what I don't like about him kidda When the next Labour party leader along with all Labour mps knock on every Englishmans door and begs for forgiveness for what the Labour party have done to the UK, kisses their arse and agrees to close the borders whilst deporting all those let in since 1997 , then and only then might I consider voting for them again. Until then I will do what's best for Britain and that is vote UKIP |
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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 11, 2015 18:36:09 GMT
Correct. He's a hypocrite mate just like those that support him and believe his nonsense. Let's hope he becomes Labour leader though , because that will truly be the end for the Labour party and that will be a good thing for Britain , the working class and society as a whole . And it will piss the leftys off which is always a bonus  What nonense? What is Corbyn saying that is nonsense? Give me one example of his "nonsence" to discuss with you. I think, in all fairness, the moderates inside the party are weary of his strategy on defence and Clause 4. I'm not a fan of his stance on NATO and the EU, and I don't know how Mr Corbyn plans to pay for renationalisation (I know Stella Creasy mentioned the idea of cooperatives in her Deputy Leadership speech the other night which sounds interesting). Given that I'm not sure how JC can unify the party, but I appreciate that I am but one voice. Corbyn has some excellent progressive views on housing, welfare and education which sound interesting. Labour needs to have this debate. The basic problem voters from other parties seem to be having is that they don't like what the "family next door" are talking about. Which is fine. They aren't members of that family. |
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deadwood
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Prime Minister Corbyn
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Post by deadwood on Aug 11, 2015 18:36:21 GMT
But you haven't even said what you dislike about him Hazzer. Is it his beard. It must be? Vote Labour. Vote Labour my son. I've said in my previous posts what I don't like about him kidda When Labour when the next party leader knocks on every Englishmans door and begs for forgiveness for what the Labour party have done to the UK, kisses their arse and agrees to close the borders whilst deporting all those let in since 1997 , then and only then might I consider voting for them again. Until then I will do what's best for Britain and that is vote UKIP But that is exactly what Corbyn is adressing, ie the mistakes of Tony Blair's "New Labour" experiment. He's looking at how to reboot Labour's core values and put the majority of British peoples work and welfare first and foremost. It's not rocket science Hazzer lad.  |
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Post by stokeharry on Aug 11, 2015 18:38:02 GMT
I've said in my previous posts what I don't like about him kidda When Labour when the next party leader knocks on every Englishmans door and begs for forgiveness for what the Labour party have done to the UK, kisses their arse and agrees to close the borders whilst deporting all those let in since 1997 , then and only then might I consider voting for them again. Until then I will do what's best for Britain and that is vote UKIP But that is exactly what Corbyn is adressing, ie the mistakes of Tony Blair's "New Labour" experiment. He's looking at how to reboot Labour's core values and put the majority of British peoples work and welfare first and foremost. It's not rocket science Hazzer lad. I disagree. It's too little too late. Sorry son , still voting UKIP I'm afraid |
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deadwood
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Prime Minister Corbyn
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Post by deadwood on Aug 11, 2015 18:38:00 GMT
What nonense? What is Corbyn saying that is nonsense? Give me one example of his "nonsence" to discuss with you. I think, in all fairness, the moderates inside the party are weary of his strategy on defence and Clause 4. I'm not a fan of his stance on NATO and the EU, and I don't know how Mr Corbyn plans to pay for renationalisation (I know Stella Creasy mentioned the idea of cooperatives in her Deputy Leadership speech the other night which sounds interesting). Given that I'm not sure how JC can unify the party, but I appreciate that I am but one voice. Corbyn has some excellent progressive views on housing, welfare and the education which sound interesting. Labour needs to have this debate. The basic problem voters from other parties seem to be having is that they don't like what the "family next door" are talking about. Which is fine. They aren't members of that family. OK, so what aspects of his defence strategy do you feel are wrong in your opinion? |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 11, 2015 18:39:59 GMT
I read that also last week...very interesting theory. |
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deadwood
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Prime Minister Corbyn
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Post by deadwood on Aug 11, 2015 18:40:24 GMT
But that is exactly what Corbyn is adressing, ie the mistakes of Tony Blair's "New Labour" experiment. He's looking at how to reboot Labour's core values and put the majority of British peoples work and welfare first and foremost. It's not rocket science Hazzer lad. I disagree. It's too little too late. Sorry son , still voting UKIP I'm afraid Fair enough.  |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 11, 2015 18:41:46 GMT
But you haven't even said what you dislike about him Hazzer. Is it his beard. It must be? Vote Labour. Vote Labour my son. I've said in my previous posts what I don't like about him kidda When the next Labour party leader along with all Labour mps knock on every Englishmans door and begs for forgiveness for what the Labour party have done to the UK, kisses their arse and agrees to close the borders whilst deporting all those let in since 1997 , then and only then might I consider voting for them again. Until then I will do what's best for Britain and that is vote UKIP You haven't really though have you? Like Mumf you've simply slagged him off with no objective thought or argument. |
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Post by stokeharry on Aug 11, 2015 18:43:08 GMT
I've said in my previous posts what I don't like about him kidda When the next Labour party leader along with all Labour mps knock on every Englishmans door and begs for forgiveness for what the Labour party have done to the UK, kisses their arse and agrees to close the borders whilst deporting all those let in since 1997 , then and only then might I consider voting for them again. Until then I will do what's best for Britain and that is vote UKIP You haven't really though have you? Like Mumf you've simply slagged him off with no objective thought or argument. Vote UKIP boy , you know it makes sense |
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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 11, 2015 18:50:32 GMT
I think, in all fairness, the moderates inside the party are weary of his strategy on defence and Clause 4. I'm not a fan of his stance on NATO and the EU, and I don't know how Mr Corbyn plans to pay for renationalisation (I know Stella Creasy mentioned the idea of cooperatives in her Deputy Leadership speech the other night which sounds interesting). Given that I'm not sure how JC can unify the party, but I appreciate that I am but one voice. Corbyn has some excellent progressive views on housing, welfare and the education which sound interesting. Labour needs to have this debate. The basic problem voters from other parties seem to be having is that they don't like what the "family next door" are talking about. Which is fine. They aren't members of that family. OK, so what aspects of his defence strategy do you feel are wrong in your opinion? Essentially, I think Blair's "big mistake" on Iraq (if we can call it that) needs to be learned from. That lesson is the use of multilateralism. I'm a multilateralist and I dislike pacifism. It's been touched on before, but I am not comfortable with the UK unilaterally deciding to get rid of its nuclear (the "mutually assured destruction" threat) deterrent whilst at the same time formally withdrawing from the defensive alliance that is NATO. Diplomatically speaking that's complete and utter isolation. It also makes his to-and-fro stance on EU membership slightly worrying. Nuclear proliferation is an ideal that needs and has to be worked towards multilaterally by global cooperation through multilateral institutions. A policy of unilateral disarmament combined with a complete withdrawal from NATO is, in terms of international relations, a dangerous policy in my view. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 11, 2015 18:52:09 GMT
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deadwood
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Prime Minister Corbyn
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Post by deadwood on Aug 11, 2015 18:52:57 GMT
I've said in my previous posts what I don't like about him kidda When the next Labour party leader along with all Labour mps knock on every Englishmans door and begs for forgiveness for what the Labour party have done to the UK, kisses their arse and agrees to close the borders whilst deporting all those let in since 1997 , then and only then might I consider voting for them again. Until then I will do what's best for Britain and that is vote UKIP You haven't really though have you? Like Mumf you've simply slagged him off with no objective thought or argument. This is typical of the response that Jeremy Corbyn has bought to the table, his honesty and conviction has punched a massive hole into the hull of a leaky bullsit laden boat. Put simply what he is saying is resonating and appealling to ordinairy people in a way that we have never seen before. They simply have no answer. |
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Post by kbillyh on Aug 11, 2015 18:53:21 GMT
Ukip for harry shock............. Never saw that coming..  |
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Post by stokeharry on Aug 11, 2015 18:55:56 GMT
Islam4uk for billy no mates Never saw that coming (slap head ) |
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deadwood
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Prime Minister Corbyn
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Post by deadwood on Aug 11, 2015 18:56:56 GMT
OK, so what aspects of his defence strategy do you feel are wrong in your opinion? Essentially, I think Blair's "big mistake" on Iraq (if we can call it that) needs to be learned from. That lesson is the use of multilateralism. I'm a multilateralist and I dislike pacifism. It's been touched on before, but I am not comfortable with the UK unilaterally deciding to get rid of its nuclear (the "mutually assured destruction" threat) deterrent whilst at the same time formally withdrawing from the defensive alliance that is NATO. Diplomatically speaking that's complete and utter isolation. It also makes his to-and-fro stance on EU membership slightly worrying. Nuclear proliferation is an ideal that needs and has to be worked towards multilaterally by global cooperation through multilateral institutions. A policy of unilateral disarmament combined with a complete withdrawal from NATO is, in terms of international relations, a dangerous policy in my view. I think your argument here relates to a bygone age. How can a nuclear deterrant help us with the current enemy we face? We are falling out with folks who were born on the same street as us. The weapons have served their purpose, its now time to get rid of them. Monstrous tools. |
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Post by stokeharry on Aug 11, 2015 18:59:35 GMT
It would do to you. Lol at the Guardian |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 11, 2015 19:02:02 GMT
It would do to you. Lol at the Guardian You could try reading it then offering a critical response? |
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Post by derrida1437 on Aug 11, 2015 19:02:21 GMT
You haven't really though have you? Like Mumf you've simply slagged him off with no objective thought or argument. This is typical of the response that Jeremy Corbyn has bought to the table, his honesty and conviction has punched a massive hole into the hull of a leaky bullsit laden boat. Put simply what he is saying is resonating and appealling to ordinairy people in a way that we have never seen before. They simply have no answer. I think, even if we disagree with some of his politics, what is undeniable is that Jeremy Corbyn has provided a freshness to British politics. I don't agree with everything he says, but I like the way Mr Corbyn has made Labour look at themselves, and made people generally challenge the post-Blair orthodoxy which seems to have befallen British politics. Even Conervatives and UKIPpers are talking about him. Refreshingly, Jeremy Corbyn doesn't seek to divide people, blame people, or scapegoat people less fortunate than himself. Corbyn is one of the few conviction politicians left, whether you agree with him or not. |
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Post by stokeharry on Aug 11, 2015 19:03:22 GMT
It would do to you. Lol at the Guardian You could try reading it then offering a critical response? Read it , don't agree with it , prefer the daily mail |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 11, 2015 19:07:46 GMT
You could try reading it then offering a critical response? Read it , don't agree with it , prefer the daily mail Would you care to elaborate on what you disagree with? Then maybe we could have a proper debate? |
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Post by kbillyh on Aug 11, 2015 19:09:30 GMT
You could try reading it then offering a critical response? Read it , don't agree with it , prefer the daily mail Hahahahaha. Enough said. Comical genius Harry.............well in his own head that is.  |
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Post by stokeharry on Aug 11, 2015 19:10:02 GMT
Read it , don't agree with it , prefer the daily mail Would you care to elaborate on what you disagree with? Then maybe we could have a proper debate? Any of it. I don't trust him and I don't trust the Labour party and I don't trust anyone that is fine with mass immigration |
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Post by stokeharry on Aug 11, 2015 19:11:16 GMT
Read it , don't agree with it , prefer the daily mail Hahahahaha. Enough said. Comical genius Harry.............well in his own head that is. Says the person who takes everything the left wing Guardian says as gospel. You are comedy gold billy no mates Keep the humour coming |
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Post by kbillyh on Aug 11, 2015 19:13:46 GMT
Hahahahaha. Enough said. Comical genius Harry.............well in his own head that is. Says the person who takes everything the left wing Guardian says as gospel. You are comedy gold billy no mates Keep the humour coming Brilliant!  |
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Post by stokeharry on Aug 11, 2015 19:17:03 GMT
Says the person who takes everything the left wing Guardian says as gospel. You are comedy gold billy no mates Keep the humour coming Brilliant! Fantastic (Thumbs up) |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 11, 2015 19:18:06 GMT
Would you care to elaborate on what you disagree with? Then maybe we could have a proper debate? Any of it. I don't trust him and I don't trust the Labour party and I don't trust anyone that is fine with mass immigration What parts particularly concern you Harry? |
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Post by kbillyh on Aug 11, 2015 19:26:18 GMT
Brilliant! Fantastic (Thumbs up) That fist on your avatar looks a bit grubby. Been anywhere near Mumf has it? No surrender.  |
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Post by stokeharry on Aug 11, 2015 19:28:24 GMT
That fist on your avatar looks a bit grubby. Been anywhere near Mumf has it? No surrender. More homophobic comments from billy no mates . Bigot No surrender comrade :* |
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Post by kbillyh on Aug 11, 2015 19:30:25 GMT
That fist on your avatar looks a bit grubby. Been anywhere near Mumf has it? No surrender. More homophobic comments from billy no mates . Bigot No surrender comrade :* Homophobic??? No, far from it Harry. Just waiting for the invite love. |
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