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Post by jeycov on May 14, 2015 8:13:32 GMT
Talks are probably taking place with all players with 12 months or so left on contracts.
It makes sense and is professional to keep these negotiations in house wherever possible
Once the season is over, the next transfer window is open, then more light can be shown on who may be extending a contract and who is in the shop window re transfers.
This applies to the players in this situation at our club and players that we may be targeting.
As mentioned in an earlier post, once the 'top clubs" start releasing / buying players, the system kicks in and the knock on effect will filter through to teams like ourselves and better players come onto the market
The good news is that we are now looking to trade at the beginning of the window - generally a good thing imo
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Post by FullerMagic on May 14, 2015 8:20:46 GMT
He'd be a fool not to see what was out there for him in the summer. He's 26, so this will be his big contract.
He knows he's got a 4-yr deal on about 50k to fall back on here if a big fish don't come in for him this summer.
The interesting thing will be if we don't get an acceptable offer for him over the summer - and yet he still refuses to re-sign.
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Post by Gods on May 14, 2015 8:34:44 GMT
This is the big one for us this summer.
N'Zonzi is the fine line between us and joining that pack 10 points behind us scrapping for their very lives.
Come on Stoke, get this done, almost whatever it takes!
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on May 14, 2015 8:39:48 GMT
Modern football. The club should be looking to get him to sign a good contract that works for him in the short term, but protects our fee as the selling club. This is exactly what we have done with Crouch in my opinion.
Like FM says, he is in a strong position. No rush. See what happens. I think he would have more chance of playing for France if he played abroad. Is he good enough to replace Pogba at Juve if he goes for big money?
I'm sure that Steven's people know there is plenty of wiggle room for the 10% team if he is available on a free. The player would also be in pole position to receive a tasty signing on fee too.
As for Pej, now he earns some money as a journalist. The way the media works, you only get published writing contentious stuff. Pej was (and still is) as strong as an Ox and tougher than the oldest boots. He would not have been robbed in that position. Might have fouled the forward, but would not have been robbed.
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Post by themistocles on May 14, 2015 9:30:25 GMT
Absolute priority this summer cannot believe we have let his contract run to his final season Given that last summer he submitted a transfer request, the chances of persuading him to sign a new contract must have been close to zero. The choice was almost certainly to accept the request and sell him, or do what we did and persuade him to withdraw the request and revisit the situation this summer. What would you have done - and how would you have done it? EDIT: I see the onlooker and myself have come to exactly the same conclusion - game, set and match to us! Its becoming a reoccurring scene though, players progressing into their last year of their contract before a re-contract offer. Ofcourse no one on this board will know anything regarding contract policies , but I don't think its coincidence that players enter their last year without re- signing . Who knows , the 2 transfer requests by nzonzi could of been a ploy to hurry the club up in offering him an improved offer . Think butland was a exception with his contract offer as we were forced due to the begovic situation
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Post by Lakeland Potter on May 14, 2015 10:14:00 GMT
Given that last summer he submitted a transfer request, the chances of persuading him to sign a new contract must have been close to zero. The choice was almost certainly to accept the request and sell him, or do what we did and persuade him to withdraw the request and revisit the situation this summer. What would you have done - and how would you have done it? EDIT: I see the onlooker and myself have come to exactly the same conclusion - game, set and match to us! Its becoming a reoccurring scene though, players progressing into their last year of their contract before a re-contract offer. Ofcourse no one on this board will know anything regarding contract policies , but I don't think its coincidence that players enter their last year without re- signing . Who knows , the 2 transfer requests by nzonzi could of been a ploy to hurry the club up in offering him an improved offer . Think butland was a exception with his contract offer as we were forced due to the begovic situation To be fair - we haven't lost many players we really wanted to keep have we? Can you remember the last player who ran down his contract who we really wanted to keep? If he goes this summer (and he looks like he will) then Bego will be the first of the first choice starting eleven we'll have lost since we got promoted - at least I think he will. For a mid table Premier League club that's pretty good - most clubs between, say, 7th and 14th seem to lose their star players more regularly than we do.
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Post by nutterpotter on May 23, 2015 12:02:54 GMT
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Post by Bojan Mackey on May 23, 2015 12:07:21 GMT
N'Zonzi signing a new contract is one of, if not the most vital thing we need to ensure happens this Summer, he's absolutely pivotal to our success moving forward.
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 23, 2015 12:09:48 GMT
If I had the choice out of either Begovic or N'Zonzi signing a new contract, I'd pick N'Zonzi every time.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 2, 2015 8:03:30 GMT
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jun 2, 2015 8:43:58 GMT
At least if he says that he would look a bit stupid if he suddenly moved to West Brom for a 10% pay increase.
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Jun 2, 2015 9:27:52 GMT
If I had the choice out of either Begovic or N'Zonzi signing a new contract, I'd pick N'Zonzi every time. Absolutely! We already have an able replacement for Bego, I don't think we could replace Nzonzi.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jun 2, 2015 9:37:22 GMT
To be expected, he's certainly more than capable of playing in the Champions League, just keep him here for at least another year Stoke.
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 2, 2015 9:37:57 GMT
Sounds like a "fishing" exercise to me by him and his agent. I hope it is true that he would only go to a "big club" ("top 6", or Paris) but I think there is a serious danger he might be lured to the Newcastle Gallic camp. (Incidentally, I live in the North East, and as soon as Newcastle avoided relegation they started talking about getting into Europe next season on local TV/radio! Beggars belief.)
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Post by foster on Jun 2, 2015 9:40:24 GMT
Won't begrudge him if a CL team comes in for him and he wants to leave. I expect we'll get a decent amount for him in that case.
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Post by nutterpotter on Jun 2, 2015 9:42:15 GMT
Sign a new contract with a £20m release clause if a Champions League club comes in for him. Everyone's happy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 9:45:01 GMT
If I had the choice out of either Begovic or N'Zonzi signing a new contract, I'd pick N'Zonzi every time. Definitely. We have a ready made replacement for Begovic already at the club in Butland who I believe will go on and be better than Asmir. If we were to lose Nzonzi we would need to replace via a transfer and someone of his standard will not come cheap. It's vital he signs as we don't want a season of transfer speculation upsetting him and the team.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 10:09:44 GMT
If he goes to another club for CL football then who can blame him really, can't fault someone for ambition! Only greed.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jun 2, 2015 10:13:55 GMT
If he goes to another club for CL football then who can blame him really, can't fault someone for ambition! Only greed. It's a really tough one. If it's a genuine desire to test himself against the best players then as you say it's fair enough. The whole "play in Europe" thing is used by a lot of players and it got me thinking when I heard it was the reason Benteke wants to leave Villa. Does he want to play in Europe or does he want the extra money associated with signing for a club who can offer that? For what it's worth I'm hopeful N'Zonzi will still sign.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jun 2, 2015 10:23:57 GMT
I think most footballers want to achieve as much as they can and reach as high as they can. It's only natural.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 10:31:54 GMT
I hope he stays although, the angry cynic in me says he's touting himself.
He would be one hard team member to replace.
losing him and beggo would knock us back to another season of....survival will be good imo
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 11:02:16 GMT
If he goes to another club for CL football then who can blame him really, can't fault someone for ambition! Only greed. It's a really tough one. If it's a genuine desire to test himself against the best players then as you say it's fair enough. The whole "play in Europe" thing is used by a lot of players and it got me thinking when I heard it was the reason Benteke wants to leave Villa. Does he want to play in Europe or does he want the extra money associated with signing for a club who can offer that? For what it's worth I'm hopeful N'Zonzi will still sign. There's a big difference I feel like Benteke is trying to put himself on the market which is a dick move to say the least. I'm more talking about a hypothetical club coming in to sign Fonz, which will only be a matter of time I would think I'm dying for him to sign I believe him signing on would be bigger then any potential signing we can make tbh, he is that important to the team
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jun 2, 2015 11:55:29 GMT
It's a really tough one. If it's a genuine desire to test himself against the best players then as you say it's fair enough. The whole "play in Europe" thing is used by a lot of players and it got me thinking when I heard it was the reason Benteke wants to leave Villa. Does he want to play in Europe or does he want the extra money associated with signing for a club who can offer that? For what it's worth I'm hopeful N'Zonzi will still sign. There's a big difference I feel like Benteke is trying to put himself on the market which is a dick move to say the least. I'm more talking about a hypothetical club coming in to sign Fonz, which will only be a matter of time I would think I'm dying for him to sign I believe him signing on would be bigger then any potential signing we can make tbh, he is that important to the team Sorry mate I wasn't clear in that, I was more referring to Benteke with the greed thing especially after he's been relatively shit for a good while. N'Zonzi has proved to be one of the best midfielders in the league this season and may want to prove himself. Benteke still has a lot to prove!
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Post by metalhead on Jun 2, 2015 12:03:14 GMT
If N'Zonzi goes a CL club, fair enough. Hope he doesn't.
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