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Post by ashleyscfc on Apr 9, 2015 14:33:38 GMT
Given his previous antics I reckon he will be off just to give his old man another pay day. If he stays I think he's here to stay. Hopefully having a child has meant he wants to settle down and could stop as he sees us progressing. Especially if we finish 8th. He seemed to really enjoy playing with Bojan/Ireland and Sidwell. However if he was going to go, now is the summer to go. I think we'd be lost without him and would struggle to find a replacement for similar money. Hes worth £7m+ easily
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Post by viewfrominside on Apr 9, 2015 16:30:33 GMT
First you say, 'for certain' and then you say 'I think'. Make your mind up What I mean is that he won't sign a new deal and that I think he'll hang on until he's a bosman, rather than kicking up another stink to move this summer. I think we'll resign both and I also think both are hoping we bring in some real quality in the summer which I'm also sure we will. Maybe not household names but exciting prospects like these Barcelona B lads.
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Post by viewfrominside on Apr 9, 2015 16:32:01 GMT
I can see us spending good money on a striker this summer and if not spending it then wangling a proper deal on a player with a contract running down. I like the sound of this Bas Dost & also reckon Dzeko might be more realistic than we think with Man City about to have open wallet surgery after a dissapointing season.
dzeko or dost & a couple of these barcelona lads would do very nicely
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 18:22:41 GMT
What I mean is that he won't sign a new deal and that I think he'll hang on until he's a bosman, rather than kicking up another stink to move this summer. I think we'll resign both and I also think both are hoping we bring in some real quality in the summer which I'm also sure we will. Maybe not household names but exciting prospects like these Barcelona B lads. I really hope you are right.
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Post by Kjones9 on Apr 9, 2015 19:04:45 GMT
We're doomed!! Everyone is leaving and nobody is getting back from unjury. (Suicidalsmileyface) What? Not even Bojan!? I'm afraid not. He won't be the same.
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Post by jeycov on Apr 9, 2015 19:15:37 GMT
I can see us spending good money on a striker this summer and if not spending it then wangling a proper deal on a player with a contract running down. I like the sound of this Bas Dost & also reckon Dzeko might be more realistic than we think with Man City about to have open wallet surgery after a dissapointing season. dzeko or dost & a couple of these barcelona lads would do very nicely Dzeko rumoured to be involved in a deal that would take him to Juventus - Bego still here for next season maybe he would consider us? Very unlikely, MH had a wry smile when he was mentioned in the January window - who knows?
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Post by themistocles on Apr 9, 2015 19:19:14 GMT
Can see west ham throwing money at nzonzi in the summer when they lose out on signing song .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 19:56:44 GMT
Imo getting him to sign a new contract is number 1 priority. He's a 20m player and we need to continue building the team around him.
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Post by upthefud on Apr 9, 2015 20:12:09 GMT
If he doesn't want to stay I'd rather we cashed in on N'Zonzi than Asmir.
N'Zonzi is excellent on his day but vastly over-rated by many on here.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 9, 2015 20:19:10 GMT
You don't like football do you?
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Post by RAF on Apr 9, 2015 20:30:40 GMT
If he doesn't want to stay I'd rather we cashed in on N'Zonzi than Asmir. N'Zonzi is excellent on his day but vastly over-rated by many on here. If only he gave 110% hey? H
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 9, 2015 21:07:37 GMT
It's weird. The headline is 'N'Zonzi set to sign new contract' but I came away with precisely the opposite impression. No it doesn't. The key bit in the headline is the ? As in question as in will he or won't he As the thread shows, some think he will, some don't Some think he will be off this summer, some next You can read it half full or half empty, hence the ? Sorry - I thought that the Sentinel had put that headline up without the '?' - I should have looked more closely.
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Post by sportsman on Apr 9, 2015 21:18:39 GMT
Funny reading the sentinel today. I've been slaughtered on here just for saying we could get better if nzonzi doesn't a) score more and b) boss midfields more
In today's sentinel we have nzonzi saying every coach he's played for has said he should dominate games more and Hughes says he should be scoring about 10 a season. Think the coaching staff have been listening to the sportsman.
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Post by RAF on Apr 9, 2015 21:33:02 GMT
Funny reading the sentinel today. I've been slaughtered on here just for saying we could get better if nzonzi doesn't a) score more and b) boss midfields more In today's sentinel we have nzonzi saying every coach he's played for has said he should dominate games more and Hughes says he should be scoring about 10 a season. Think the coaching staff have been listening to the sportsman. Expectation is not reality. H
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Post by Gods on Apr 9, 2015 22:09:22 GMT
Imo getting him to sign a new contract is number 1 priority. He's a 20m player and we need to continue building the team around him. Yep, this is priority #1.
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Post by viewfrominside on Apr 10, 2015 5:48:29 GMT
I am sure as can be that both will sign new deals; everyone that matters is saying that the club has ambitions and I believe they will want to be a part of it. Next season is set to be a defining moment in the Club's process. not itk it just feels like it did in Waddo's day when the optimism returned. Will they choose the club's ambition over a move to a bigger club? Can't see it. leeds are a hig club. Notts forest are a big club but they are both shit and have been for a while, as have villa, everton are shat this season, newcastle have been massively under performing for years, bigger is not necessarily better. Zonz and begovic are first team regulars for scfc, a club improving each season and going in the right direction, unless they go to a champions league club or a club who wins regular trophies id say a club like ours is the next best thing. If they were to stick around we have every chance of improving again next season and possibly winning someting ourselves, or they could join a champions league club on a bit more money and warm the bench reguarly, but 2 years down the line if they dont establish themselves because the club is spending money like its going out of fashion they will be wishing they had stayed at stoke. I think this summer will define where we are going as a club, its time to open the wallet. We'd be doing even better this season without the injuries we have had. Bego and zonz arnt stupid, its an exciting time to be at scfc
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 10, 2015 6:02:52 GMT
Well with Victor not wishing to talk about the summer 'as I am still a Chelsea player'. Nzozni stating that is nice and Begovic staying focussed until the end of the season, this is one hell of a test for SCFC this summer
Losing 1 of them in my opinion would be a big hit - losing all three would be a disaster
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Post by viewfrominside on Apr 10, 2015 6:10:02 GMT
I can see us spending good money on a striker this summer and if not spending it then wangling a proper deal on a player with a contract running down. I like the sound of this Bas Dost & also reckon Dzeko might be more realistic than we think with Man City about to have open wallet surgery after a dissapointing season. dzeko or dost & a couple of these barcelona lads would do very nicely Dzeko rumoured to be involved in a deal that would take him to Juventus - Bego still here for next season maybe he would consider us? Very unlikely, MH had a wry smile when he was mentioned in the January window - who knows? zonz and bego might be a couple of our best players but the reality is other clubs have best players aswell. Both are very good for us but i wouldnt say they would walk into any champions leagues clubs thoughts or first team especially one thats willing to pay them 90k a week. If they have any sense they will stay exactly where they are. We are a good transfer window away from a very good team and squad ourselves he rate of improvement under hughes has been massive, bojan signing was a masterstroke hes as good as anyone in the prem imo and hes a player to build a team around. 2 or 3 extra quality players in the summer and without the injuries we'll be pushing for top 6 in the next 2 seasons and winning a cup. Zonz would be daft to leave hes started more games at stoke this season than any other player.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 10, 2015 6:36:53 GMT
Dzeko rumoured to be involved in a deal that would take him to Juventus - Bego still here for next season maybe he would consider us? Very unlikely, MH had a wry smile when he was mentioned in the January window - who knows? zonz and bego might be a couple of our best players but the reality is other clubs have best players aswell. Both are very good for us but i wouldnt say they would walk into any champions leagues clubs thoughts or first team especially one thats willing to pay them 90k a week. If they have any sense they will stay exactly where they are. We are a good transfer window away from a very good team and squad ourselves he rate of improvement under hughes has been massive, bojan signing was a masterstroke hes as good as anyone in the prem imo and hes a player to build a team around. 2 or 3 extra quality players in the summer and without the injuries we'll be pushing for top 6 in the next 2 seasons and winning a cup. Zonz would be daft to leave hes started more games at stoke this season than any other player. Players don't think like that though. They're ambitious and they back themselves to make an impact wherever they go. And that's what you've got to do as a top pro.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 10, 2015 6:38:12 GMT
Will they choose the club's ambition over a move to a bigger club? Can't see it. leeds are a hig club. Notts forest are a big club but they are both shit and have been for a while, as have villa, everton are shat this season, newcastle have been massively under performing for years, bigger is not necessarily better. Zonz and begovic are first team regulars for scfc, a club improving each season and going in the right direction, unless they go to a champions league club or a club who wins regular trophies id say a club like ours is the next best thing. If they were to stick around we have every chance of improving again next season and possibly winning someting ourselves, or they could join a champions league club on a bit more money and warm the bench reguarly, but 2 years down the line if they dont establish themselves because the club is spending money like its going out of fashion they will be wishing they had stayed at stoke. I think this summer will define where we are going as a club, its time to open the wallet. We'd be doing even better this season without the injuries we have had. Bego and zonz arnt stupid, its an exciting time to be at scfc Those weren't the big clubs I was on about though, clearly. I was talking about ones who would represent a step up from Stoke.
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Post by upthefud on Apr 10, 2015 6:52:52 GMT
I think Moses will stay, gut feeling.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Apr 10, 2015 6:53:38 GMT
Well with Victor not wishing to talk about the summer 'as I am still a Chelsea player'. Nzozni stating that is nice and Begovic staying focussed until the end of the season, this is one hell of a test for SCFC this summer Losing 1 of them in my opinion would be a big hit - losing all three would be a disaster Yep. I'm already bricking it. We simply can't let Nzonzi run down his contract though. Sign or sell this summer.
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 10, 2015 6:54:00 GMT
I think Moses will stay, gut feeling. He'd be dumb to go sit on the bench at Chelsea and not be playing... but, it is modern football.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 10, 2015 11:01:04 GMT
Moses has toned down the old Chelsea player bollocks in the past few months hasn't he? Not that it ever was bollocks, it's what I'd be saying too!
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Post by metalhead on Apr 10, 2015 14:02:09 GMT
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Post by Gods on Apr 10, 2015 14:10:26 GMT
Not sure about "tears him apart" but he is attempting to pin the entire blame on Begovic rolling the ball out straight to a Chelsea player on N'zonzi. It is either a cry for help from Pejic or he has been out in the sunshine for too long without a hat, I can't decide which
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Post by metalhead on Apr 10, 2015 15:03:21 GMT
Not sure about "tears him apart" but he is attempting to pin the entire blame on Begovic rolling the ball out straight to a Chelsea player on N'zonzi. It is either a cry for help from Pejic or he has been out in the sunshine without a hat, I can't decide which I personally attributed 50% of the blame. There's a clear breakdown in communication and you can't consider that one-way. Pej is a Stokie through and through, so there isn't any point ripping or mocking him. If he's got a point, it's probably valid and not based on any bias, like you might get with someone like Peter Beagrie or Francis Lee who have clearly made camp in the anti-Stoke zone. His point is valid. Hughes has been encouraging Asmir to roll the ball out all season. He's rolled it out to Glenn, to N'Zonzi, to Ryan, to Geoff, to Wolly and at the end of the day, if we're going to improve as a team, all players should be switched on. N'Zonzi was flat footed and he was slow to react to what Asmir was about to do, despite knowing full well that this is the way Hughes is setting us up to play. If the ball goes to the keeper, the players are not trotting forward waiting for the big hoof over their heads now. They should be aware that Asmir's first look will be to play it short if he can, then consider a long ball. That still doesn't take away from the fact that Asmir rolled the ball out criminally slowly which meant even if N'Zonzi had been on his toes, he would have been in trouble. Chelsea were on their toes, we weren't.
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Post by sportsman on Apr 10, 2015 15:16:32 GMT
Not sure about "tears him apart" but he is attempting to pin the entire blame on Begovic rolling the ball out straight to a Chelsea player on N'zonzi. It is either a cry for help from Pejic or he has been out in the sunshine without a hat, I can't decide which I personally attributed 50% of the blame. There's a clear breakdown in communication and you can't consider that one-way. Pej is a Stokie through and through, so there isn't any point ripping or mocking him. If he's got a point, it's probably valid and not based on any bias, like you might get with someone like Peter Beagrie or Francis Lee who have clearly made camp in the anti-Stoke zone. His point is valid. Hughes has been encouraging Asmir to roll the ball out all season. He's rolled it out to Glenn, to N'Zonzi, to Ryan, to Geoff, to Wolly and at the end of the day, if we're going to improve as a team, all players should be switched on. N'Zonzi was flat footed and he was slow to react to what Asmir was about to do, despite knowing full well that this is the way Hughes is setting us up to play. If the ball goes to the keeper, the players are not trotting forward waiting for the big hoof over their heads now. They should be aware that Asmir's first look will be to play it short if he can, then consider a long ball. That still doesn't take away from the fact that Asmir rolled the ball out criminally slowly which meant even if N'Zonzi had been on his toes, he would have been in trouble. Chelsea were on their toes, we weren't. That's what happens when you play with a spliff in. He's the Rio Ferdinand of midfield, any more laid back he'd be horizontal. Mourinho made a good point about this distance covered. He said he doesn't get this he covered 11k stuff. He said he prefered someone who covered 9k but influenced the game. Having said that I thought second half he was our best player by a distance.
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Post by metalhead on Apr 10, 2015 15:24:11 GMT
I personally attributed 50% of the blame. There's a clear breakdown in communication and you can't consider that one-way. Pej is a Stokie through and through, so there isn't any point ripping or mocking him. If he's got a point, it's probably valid and not based on any bias, like you might get with someone like Peter Beagrie or Francis Lee who have clearly made camp in the anti-Stoke zone. His point is valid. Hughes has been encouraging Asmir to roll the ball out all season. He's rolled it out to Glenn, to N'Zonzi, to Ryan, to Geoff, to Wolly and at the end of the day, if we're going to improve as a team, all players should be switched on. N'Zonzi was flat footed and he was slow to react to what Asmir was about to do, despite knowing full well that this is the way Hughes is setting us up to play. If the ball goes to the keeper, the players are not trotting forward waiting for the big hoof over their heads now. They should be aware that Asmir's first look will be to play it short if he can, then consider a long ball. That still doesn't take away from the fact that Asmir rolled the ball out criminally slowly which meant even if N'Zonzi had been on his toes, he would have been in trouble. Chelsea were on their toes, we weren't. That's what happens when you play with a spliff in. He's the Rio Ferdinand of midfield, any more laid back he'd be horizontal. Mourinho made a good point about this distance covered. He said he doesn't get this he covered 11k stuff. He said he prefered someone who covered 9k but influenced the game. Having said that I thought second half he was our best player by a distance. N'Zonzi was our best player all day really, but he was partly to blame for the goal. I still think Asmir has to take huge responsibility because he should have seen how flat footed N'Zonzi was.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 10, 2015 15:39:26 GMT
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