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Jul 7, 2014 15:31:02 GMT
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Post by Stoke711 on Jul 7, 2014 15:31:02 GMT
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Jul 7, 2014 15:36:40 GMT
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Jul 7, 2014 15:36:40 GMT
Our image is utter shit. Like seriously. It's going to take decades to shake it off. some people actually believe we only just survived last year and have no clue we finished ninth. And even then they refuse to believe we did it by any other method than a wind machine, snow, long grass, a narrowed pitch, snapping players in half and then eating them alive.
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 7, 2014 15:39:54 GMT
i like our image , its the thing that makes us special
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Post by Clem Fandango on Jul 7, 2014 15:40:21 GMT
To be honest isn't it an image the whole area has anyway?
Pretty much everybody I speak to outside of Stoke considers the area to a grim midland shithole and to a degree that image is placed on the team. We're not going to change the image of the area anytime soon but maybe a couple of seasons of 'attractive' football might help.
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Post by nott1 on Jul 7, 2014 15:42:29 GMT
To be honest isn't it an image the whole area has anyway? Pretty much everybody I speak to outside of Stoke considers the area to a grim midland shithole and to a degree that image is placed on the team. We're not going to change the image of the area anytime soon but maybe a couple of seasons of 'attractive' football might help. Grim, midland shithole with a great team now!
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Post by Ayupshag on Jul 7, 2014 15:44:25 GMT
Fuck em. I love the "No-one likes us" feeling. It's great. Makes it all the sweeter when we've just battered them
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 7, 2014 15:46:00 GMT
It's quite amusing searching for 'stoke' on twitter during a particularly tedious/thuggish World Cup game. There are so many mentions it nearly brings it to a standstill.
Thousands and thousands of people from every country on earth who think they're oh-so-amusing. We're still probably the go-to 'shit' team to joke about worldwide.
The Hughes transformation generally passed the world by.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 15:46:02 GMT
To be honest isn't it an image the whole area has anyway? Pretty much everybody I speak to outside of Stoke considers the area to a grim midland shithole and to a degree that image is placed on the team. We're not going to change the image of the area anytime soon but maybe a couple of seasons of 'attractive' football might help. image of the team is nothing more than because of the way we played under Tone (which bloody well worked for a while so hat's off Mr. Pulis) and nothing to do with the area at all. we never had this ugly, thuggish borefest image before we came up to the Prem...it's just NOT the way you're supposed to play football apparently. you're SUPPOSED to sit there trying to play it around with quick touches and movement even though you've only just come up and don't have the talent at your disposal to play that way. then the big boys can turn up and you roll over for them and get ripped apart and give them an easy 3 points...THAT'S what's supposed to happen like you say, a couple of years of decent football and that'll be gone the image of the area though is largely accurate and down to the simple fact that (through no fault of the people inhabiting it) the place HAS become a shithole over the years. that ain't gonna change anytime soon unfortunately.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 7, 2014 15:46:23 GMT
It's necessary for us to find a balance, personally I think we have a good enough image to attract decent players (Arnautovic a case in point), but our image isn't squeaky clean enough for our top players to be snapped up a la Southampton. Our image amongst our supporter fraternity is nothing short of dreadful, I have regularly had to put up with endless amount of crap from Arsenal fans at University who have never seen us play but bring up the usual bullshit about how 27,000 Stoke fans pissed on Ramsey's grave. Only a few people I've met who we've played this season have said we get a bad press, in particular a couple of Villa fans after the 4-1
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Post by salopstick on Jul 7, 2014 15:47:19 GMT
i like our image , its the think that makes us special thats spot on
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Post by salopstick on Jul 7, 2014 15:48:21 GMT
the more hardworking unspectacular decent under the radar pros we get the least likely our club will get raped of its players
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 7, 2014 15:50:11 GMT
It's necessary for us to find a balance, personally I think we have a good enough image to attract decent players (Arnautovic a case in point), but our image isn't squeaky clean enough for our top players to be snapped up a la Southampton. Our image amongst our supporter fraternity is nothing short of dreadful, I have regularly had to put up with endless amount of crap from Arsenal fans at University who have never seen us play but bring up the usual bullshit about how 27,000 Stoke fans pissed on Ramsey's grave. Only a few people I've met who we've played this season have said we get a bad press, in particular a couple of Villa fans after the 4-1 tbf the southampton players being snapped are better players , simple as that .
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Post by kevan45 on Jul 7, 2014 15:50:29 GMT
Wouldn't have it any other way. Bring 'em on!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 15:50:42 GMT
the more hardworking unspectacular decent under the radar pros we get the least likely our club will get raped of its players is that why we've kept hold of Shotts and Palacios for as long as we have d'ya think?
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 7, 2014 15:50:58 GMT
i like our image , its the think that makes us special thats spot on more of your biting sarcasm?
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Post by salopstick on Jul 7, 2014 15:53:19 GMT
the more hardworking unspectacular decent under the radar pros we get the least likely our club will get raped of its players is that why we've kept hold of Shotts and Palacios for as long as we have d'ya think? and the reason we kept ryan, whelan, rory, bego, walters etc they would all improve the lower prem clubs and some big ones too being unfashionable has its merits
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 15:54:47 GMT
is that why we've kept hold of Shotts and Palacios for as long as we have d'ya think? and the reason we kept ryan, whelan, rory, bego, walters etc they would all improve the lower prem clubs and some big ones too being unfashionable has its merits to be fair, i'm happy enough with Shotts anyway but i couldn't curb my facetious streak. done well whenever we needed him
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 15:55:20 GMT
At least we have an image unlike most other clubs of our size who are just in the premier league to make up the numbers, maybe getting patronised for one season like Swansea or Southampton then forgotten about.
Anyone who thinks the rest of football will love us if we play some nice, passing football is deluded, especially if we keep up this feud with Arsenal.
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Post by metalhead on Jul 7, 2014 15:58:47 GMT
To be honest isn't it an image the whole area has anyway? Pretty much everybody I speak to outside of Stoke considers the area to a grim midland shithole and to a degree that image is placed on the team. We're not going to change the image of the area anytime soon but maybe a couple of seasons of 'attractive' football might help. image of the team is nothing more than because of the way we played under Tone (which bloody well worked for a while so hat's off Mr. Pulis) and nothing to do with the area at all. we never had this ugly, thuggish borefest image before we came up to the Prem...it's just NOT the way you're supposed to play football apparently. you're SUPPOSED to sit there trying to play it around with quick touches and movement even though you've only just come up and don't have the talent at your disposal to play that way. then the big boys can turn up and you roll over for them and get ripped apart and give them an easy 3 points...THAT'S what's supposed to happen like you say, a couple of years of decent football and that'll be gone the image of the area though is largely accurate and down to the simple fact that (through no fault of the people inhabiting it) the place HAS become a shithole over the years. that ain't gonna change anytime soon unfortunately. Sorry mick. I often agree with you but you're wrong about the area thing. The general consensus outside of Stoke is that it's a total shithole where everyone is unemployed and every woman is a single mother with 4 kids from 4 different fathers. Certainly people down South think it. The image of our team I agree is very much to do with our previous style of football, but should we care? Absolutely not. What we achieved under Tony was remarkable, in such a short space of time. This is our new chapter and with a few years of good football under Sparky, someone else will be the thuggish team that everyone hates. It was Bolton a few years ago, and Wimbledon a few years before that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 15:59:01 GMT
At least we have an image unlike most other clubs of our size who are just in the premier league to make up the numbers, maybe getting patronised for one season like Swansea or Southampton then forgotten about. Anyone who thinks the rest of football will love us if we play some nice, passing football is deluded, especially if we keep up this feud with Arsenal. no-one gives a fuck about this "Feud" with Arsenal apart from Arsenal (and most of them aren't that arsed, they just enjoy booing us). no-one hated us before we came up and played Pulis-ball for 5 years without any effort of evolving from it. if we hadn't played like that then we wouldn't be hated by anyone now..really is that simple mate. anyone who thinks it's some deep seated hatred simply because it's Stoke and who believes the footballing world even care that we hate Arsenal is deluded!
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Post by baltipiesmuggler on Jul 7, 2014 16:00:02 GMT
For me it's a good thing, if it means for even one second that the opposition underestimates us.
Let them think what they want, I couldn't give a fucking shit.
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Post by metalhead on Jul 7, 2014 16:00:04 GMT
the more hardworking unspectacular decent under the radar pros we get the least likely our club will get raped of its players is that why we've kept hold of Shotts and Palacios for as long as we have d'ya think? I wouldn't get rid of Shotton anyway. Decent full back, not Prem quality admittedly but worth absolutely nothing and probably costs us very little to keep. Not someone to cause trouble but someone who will always give 100% when needed. At 25 he's got a few years left as well.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 7, 2014 16:00:26 GMT
It's necessary for us to find a balance, personally I think we have a good enough image to attract decent players (Arnautovic a case in point), but our image isn't squeaky clean enough for our top players to be snapped up a la Southampton. Our image amongst our supporter fraternity is nothing short of dreadful, I have regularly had to put up with endless amount of crap from Arsenal fans at University who have never seen us play but bring up the usual bullshit about how 27,000 Stoke fans pissed on Ramsey's grave. Only a few people I've met who we've played this season have said we get a bad press, in particular a couple of Villa fans after the 4-1 tbf the southampton players being snapped are better players , simple as that . True, but they only finished a place above us, I would hesitate to say that people would say that a single place separated the wonderboy Lallana from the "thuggery" of Glenn Whelan. Additionally, I know plenty of people who presume we finished about 15th this year, when I say 9th they always sound surprised.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 16:03:54 GMT
image of the team is nothing more than because of the way we played under Tone (which bloody well worked for a while so hat's off Mr. Pulis) and nothing to do with the area at all. we never had this ugly, thuggish borefest image before we came up to the Prem...it's just NOT the way you're supposed to play football apparently. you're SUPPOSED to sit there trying to play it around with quick touches and movement even though you've only just come up and don't have the talent at your disposal to play that way. then the big boys can turn up and you roll over for them and get ripped apart and give them an easy 3 points...THAT'S what's supposed to happen like you say, a couple of years of decent football and that'll be gone the image of the area though is largely accurate and down to the simple fact that (through no fault of the people inhabiting it) the place HAS become a shithole over the years. that ain't gonna change anytime soon unfortunately. Sorry mick. I often agree with you but you're wrong about the area thing. The general consensus outside of Stoke is that it's a total shithole where everyone is unemployed and every woman is a single mother with 4 kids from 4 different fathers. Certainly people down South think it. The image of our team I agree is very much to do with our previous style of football, but should we care? Absolutely not. What we achieved under Tony was remarkable, in such a short space of time. This is our new chapter and with a few years of good football under Sparky, someone else will be the thuggish team that everyone hates. It was Bolton a few years ago, and Wimbledon a few years before that. it isn't really that nice an area though is it? i remember when i was a kid loving it playing footy behind my gran's house on the cobbles, skateboarding at Longton park, going shopping in Hanley...nowadays you go to Stoke and it's all been concreted over for the A500 and Hanley is a dump and the other towns are all boarded up as all the shops have closed down. it may not be a case of four kids with four different dads but there's no way you can say it's a nice area!!! re: the football, totally agree. i don't care and never did. the way we played which gave us this tag is what kept us up while other teams trying to play "The proper way" fell by the wayside and went down. worked lovely for us.
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Post by vahl on Jul 7, 2014 16:08:03 GMT
Our club image has nothing to do with how we play(ed) though IMO. I blame Arsenal and their glory hunting shithouse journo's that have done nothing but tarnish our club at every opportunity with their twisted truth and poxy opinions.
That being said, we'll just play straight through teams that believe we're still a long ball side and make them look average - we did it last season and we'll keep on doing it until they wake the fuck up.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 16:08:49 GMT
At least we have an image unlike most other clubs of our size who are just in the premier league to make up the numbers, maybe getting patronised for one season like Swansea or Southampton then forgotten about. Anyone who thinks the rest of football will love us if we play some nice, passing football is deluded, especially if we keep up this feud with Arsenal. no-one gives a fuck about this "Feud" with Arsenal apart from Arsenal (and most of them aren't that arsed, they just enjoy booing us). no-one hated us before we came up and played Pulis-ball for 5 years without any effort of evolving from it. if we hadn't played like that then we wouldn't be hated by anyone now..really is that simple mate. anyone who thinks it's some deep seated hatred simply because it's Stoke and who believes the footballing world even care that we hate Arsenal is deluded! did you see the reaction to the Oatcake cover about booing Aaron Ramsey? it made the national press and theres been a lot of criticism from other supporters about it. All this booing Ramsey and Wenger bollocks has done far more damage to our reputation than any number of long balls or holding at corners. Funny how people can be selective about which parts of our image they don't like. Theres a good reason no one hated us before we came up - no one cared, actually most of the haters had never even heard of us.
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Post by metalhead on Jul 7, 2014 16:11:37 GMT
Sorry mick. I often agree with you but you're wrong about the area thing. The general consensus outside of Stoke is that it's a total shithole where everyone is unemployed and every woman is a single mother with 4 kids from 4 different fathers. Certainly people down South think it. The image of our team I agree is very much to do with our previous style of football, but should we care? Absolutely not. What we achieved under Tony was remarkable, in such a short space of time. This is our new chapter and with a few years of good football under Sparky, someone else will be the thuggish team that everyone hates. It was Bolton a few years ago, and Wimbledon a few years before that. it isn't really that nice an area though is it? i remember when i was a kid loving it playing footy behind my gran's house on the cobbles, skateboarding at Longton park, going shopping in Hanley...nowadays you go to Stoke and it's all been concreted over for the A500 and Hanley is a dump and the other towns are all boarded up as all the shops have closed down. it may not be a case of four kids with four different dads but there's no way you can say it's a nice area!!! re: the football, totally agree. i don't care and never did. the way we played which gave us this tag is what kept us up while other teams trying to play "The proper way" fell by the wayside and went down. worked lovely for us. Hehe, well you can thank the council for that. Those dinosaurs have been destroying our wonderful little place for a long time. You only have to look at the complete shambles that is Hanley bus station (new and old in fact) to see how badly these clowns run the city. We've been saying that for a long time though and unfortunately, nothing get's done. I remember Newcastle being a vibrant town full of shops, and a bustling high street. Nowadays, half the shops are shut and the place is normally empty. That's progression for you
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jul 7, 2014 16:13:21 GMT
“There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.”
Oscar Wilde
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 16:16:02 GMT
no-one gives a fuck about this "Feud" with Arsenal apart from Arsenal (and most of them aren't that arsed, they just enjoy booing us). no-one hated us before we came up and played Pulis-ball for 5 years without any effort of evolving from it. if we hadn't played like that then we wouldn't be hated by anyone now..really is that simple mate. anyone who thinks it's some deep seated hatred simply because it's Stoke and who believes the footballing world even care that we hate Arsenal is deluded! did you see the reaction to the Oatcake cover about booing Aaron Ramsey? it made the national press and theres been a lot of criticism from other supporters about it. All this booing Ramsey and Wenger bollocks has done far more damage to our reputation than any number of long balls or holding at corners. Funny how people can be selective about which parts of our image they don't like. Theres a good reason no one hated us before we came up - no one cared, actually most of the haters had never even heard of us. no-one hated us for much of the first couple of years we were up afterwards either...they also didn't hate us for what happened with Arsenal in fact most people i know aren't even aware we still care about the whole thing (only muppets do continue it all anyway). the vast majority of football fans just don't care about us one way or the other way...sorry but it's true, we're just not big enough or competitive enough for most fans to give a shit about or for them to waste their energy thinking about.kind of proven by the posters on here that have said how surprised people they knew were when they were told we finished 9th..they're just not interested in stoke. some still have this "Thugs" tag but that's largely down to Ryan and Huthy at set pieces (in fact they usually cite that exact thing when talking about us most of the time). if you genuinely think that neutral fans are even arsed about us and arsenal then you really do apportion far more importance to us as a team than we deserve..most don't really know about it and those that do aren't even that arsed. ANYTHING can make a national newspaper if it's a slow news day...that doesn't mean for one second that anyone even remembers it as soon as they've read it and put the paper down. you may like to think people think about us and have an opinion but the simple fact is that unless they're directly asked "What is your opinion of Stoke City football club?" then nearly no-one even thinks about us mate.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2014 16:16:51 GMT
it isn't really that nice an area though is it? i remember when i was a kid loving it playing footy behind my gran's house on the cobbles, skateboarding at Longton park, going shopping in Hanley...nowadays you go to Stoke and it's all been concreted over for the A500 and Hanley is a dump and the other towns are all boarded up as all the shops have closed down. it may not be a case of four kids with four different dads but there's no way you can say it's a nice area!!! re: the football, totally agree. i don't care and never did. the way we played which gave us this tag is what kept us up while other teams trying to play "The proper way" fell by the wayside and went down. worked lovely for us. Hehe, well you can thank the council for that. Those dinosaurs have been destroying our wonderful little place for a long time. You only have to look at the complete shambles that is Hanley bus station (new and old in fact) to see how badly these clowns run the city. We've been saying that for a long time though and unfortunately, nothing get's done. I remember Newcastle being a vibrant town full of shops, and a bustling high street. Nowadays, half the shops are shut and the place is normally empty. That's progression for you totally agree mate (hence my bit saying not the fault of the inhabitants in my first post) i'll still have good memories of the place till my dying day!
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