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Post by NassauDave on Jan 22, 2014 5:03:38 GMT
We have enough shite to offload already without adding more mediocrity.
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Post by paulinespens on Jan 22, 2014 5:07:01 GMT
if we sign that cunt,i'm fucking off up the vale.... will we give him a suspension bonus every ten games,he's utter wank and loathsome.. scraping the fecking barrel comes to mind..... Over reaction comes to mind, its just some crap rumor to fill some space. I should have put one of these on my post
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 22, 2014 5:44:02 GMT
We need some bite in midfield if we are to continue with Nzonzi and Adam/Ireland. A decent upgrade on Whelan.
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Post by stokeramblers on Jan 22, 2014 6:31:17 GMT
We need some bite in midfield if we are to continue with Nzonzi and Adam/Ireland. A decent upgrade on Whelan. Is this you backing the veracity of Spinks' claim or has this one taken you by surprise...?
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Post by malteser68 on Jan 22, 2014 6:58:03 GMT
Rubbish signing that would be. Whilst the likes of Newcastle are scouting and finding real talent in other leagues such as France we are continuing on the same policy of buying shit rejects from Sunderland. Makes you want to throw up in desperation
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Post by oatcakeboy on Jan 22, 2014 7:43:38 GMT
Spinks is hinting. Dunno if anyone else has posted.. Martin Spinks ?@mspinks10 Lee Cattermole anyone? See Sentinel website in a mo SentinelLee Cattermole would be a great signing for us just what we need a midfielder that will add some bite to our team and lets not forget this lad can play football going FORWARDS UNLIKE OUR PRESENT MIDFIELD and he scores GOALS ,all we need then is a striker with some pace and we will look a different team .
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Post by onyourbonce on Jan 22, 2014 8:02:34 GMT
Lee cattermole play football going forwards? Scores goals? Fuck me drunk sum ppl kno fuck all!
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Post by mcf on Jan 22, 2014 8:03:23 GMT
Debatable as to if he's better than our current options. Risk of being sent off in key games. We have far more important positions to fill than this one.
I'd be surprised more than disappointed..could get us going a bit maybe...certainly fire in him.
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Post by drfishy on Jan 22, 2014 8:08:04 GMT
Mark Holmes ?@homzy Twitter I'm told Cattermole to Stoke is far from a done deal and is closer to not happening than happening at moment. Could soon change, of course.
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Post by foster on Jan 22, 2014 8:10:41 GMT
I don't see this as a downgrade.
If we sign LC and get rid of the likes of Palacios and some other deadwood then I'm all for it.
Ideally I'd still like us to bring in a RW, CB and a Striker, in that order of preference. Though for the Striker I wouldn't mind just recalling CJ since we play 1 up top and we have Crouch and Guidetti already.
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Post by MadMarko10 on Jan 22, 2014 8:11:40 GMT
Spinks is hinting. Dunno if anyone else has posted.. Martin Spinks ?@mspinks10 Lee Cattermole anyone? See Sentinel website in a mo SentinelLee Cattermole would be a great signing for us just what we need a midfielder that will add some bite to our team and lets not forget this lad can play football going FORWARDS UNLIKE OUR PRESENT MIDFIELD and he scores GOALS ,all we need then is a striker with some pace and we will look a different team . "he scores GOALS" According to Wikipedia: 229 appearances and 6 goals in all competitions since 2005/06. Yep, you read that right. SIX. So yeah, I'm expecting him to chip in with a few for us as well
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Post by werrington on Jan 22, 2014 8:14:42 GMT
I don't see this as a downgrade. If we sign LC and get rid of the likes of Palacios and some other deadwood then I'm all for it. Ideally I'd still like us to bring in a RW, CB and a Striker, in that order of preference. Though for the Striker I wouldn't mind just recalling CJ since we play 1 up top and we have Crouch and Guidetti already. We can't just recall him foster and neither can they just send him back Palace paid us £1m for the loan and with any half season or season loan BOTH clubs have to agree to it ending
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Post by RAF on Jan 22, 2014 8:16:46 GMT
I only see this as a disaster signing. If you think we get poor decisions against the big teams, wait until this thug gets on the end of a Wenger player.
Steer clear
H
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Post by foster on Jan 22, 2014 8:19:36 GMT
I don't see this as a downgrade. If we sign LC and get rid of the likes of Palacios and some other deadwood then I'm all for it. Ideally I'd still like us to bring in a RW, CB and a Striker, in that order of preference. Though for the Striker I wouldn't mind just recalling CJ since we play 1 up top and we have Crouch and Guidetti already. We can't just recall him foster and neither can they just send him back Palace paid us £1m for the loan and with any half season or season loan BOTH clubs have to agree to it ending I know. I meant in case we could come to some kind of agreement. Maybe recall CJ and loan them KJ.
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Post by werrington on Jan 22, 2014 8:22:19 GMT
We can't just recall him foster and neither can they just send him back Palace paid us £1m for the loan and with any half season or season loan BOTH clubs have to agree to it ending I know. I meant in case we could come to some kind of agreement. Maybe recall CJ and loan them KJ. Lol.......the only two players who had a pop at Pulis ( smiley ) I actually don't mind Kenwyne but there's no way back for him here now and he needs to be gone I can see him ending up at one of the South Wales clubs ?
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Post by foster on Jan 22, 2014 8:25:57 GMT
I know. I meant in case we could come to some kind of agreement. Maybe recall CJ and loan them KJ. Lol.......the only two players who had a pop at Pulis ( smiley ) I actually don't mind Kenwyne but there's no way back for him here now and he needs to be gone I can see him ending up at one of the South Wales clubs ? Well then bring in a good winger and loan them Walters. Pulis would never be able to resist that offer. I'd prefer CJ as a Striker for us than JW.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Jan 22, 2014 8:26:01 GMT
I wouldn't be against signing Lee Cattermole at all.
Firstly it would add much needed depth to our squad and give us a better option than Maurice Edu and Jamie Ness are currently giving us.
Secondly, Cattermole might well be that tenacious midfielder we are craving for and might even put N'Zonzi in his place as regards to first team selection.
Thirdly, he is a realistic signing, who do some people want us to sign FFS?
The squad needs depth and whilst Cattermole isn't a "rock the city" signing, he's a decent midfielder and could add something to our squad, regardless of the needless red cards he could pick up, sometimes its worth a bloody gamble in my opinion.
Saying all that I doubt he will sign anyhow so I don't see why people should start pressing the panic button.
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Post by stokeramblers on Jan 22, 2014 8:30:16 GMT
wait until this thug gets on the end of a Wenger player. H In a perverse kind of way I'd quite enjoy seeing that
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Post by werrington on Jan 22, 2014 8:34:32 GMT
Lol.......the only two players who had a pop at Pulis ( smiley ) I actually don't mind Kenwyne but there's no way back for him here now and he needs to be gone I can see him ending up at one of the South Wales clubs ? Well then bring in a good winger and loan them Walters. Pulis would never be able to resist that offer. I'd prefer CJ as a Striker for us than JW. Jerome is an odd one for me When he's on I think " he's poor " but when we are struggling I want him on I'd definitely have him back though if we can't get anybody else in
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Post by Kjones9 on Jan 22, 2014 8:38:37 GMT
Over reaction comes to mind, its just some crap rumor to fill some space. I should have put one of these on my post Yes, of course you did (rollyeyesthingymebob)
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Post by foster on Jan 22, 2014 8:41:25 GMT
Well then bring in a good winger and loan them Walters. Pulis would never be able to resist that offer. I'd prefer CJ as a Striker for us than JW. Jerome is an odd one for me When he's on I think " he's poor " but when we are struggling I want him on I'd definitely have him back though if we can't get anybody else in Yeah, that's it for me. I'd rather have CJ as a sub than JW as a starter. I'm not sure but wouldn't CJs pace make him a better option as a wide man too?
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Post by slogger on Jan 22, 2014 8:42:19 GMT
what do people expect for 5m and the kind of cash we only want to spend on players.your never going to get anything more then an average premiership player and that's what our team consists of bego excluded of course .wake up smell the coffee and except we are trying build a premiership side on the cheep
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Post by werrington on Jan 22, 2014 9:01:26 GMT
Jerome is an odd one for me When he's on I think " he's poor " but when we are struggling I want him on I'd definitely have him back though if we can't get anybody else in Yeah, that's it for me. I'd rather have CJ as a sub than JW as a starter. I'm not sure but wouldn't CJs pace make him a better option as a wide man too? He's a bit headless for a winger so I'd just bang him up top to harass the centre halves with his pace Hopefully it's all pie in the sky and we buy somebody else
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2014 9:07:31 GMT
Does Hughes have a significant transfer kitty after all then? I'd understand Cattermole if it were £2m - but £5m on a slight Whelan upgrade (I hope) is a lot of money to be laying out when there are significant sums to be spent elsewhere on the team. Baffling that we seem to have been letting targets pass us by for 12 motnths, just for the sake of a few quid, and then sanction £5m for Cattermole.
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Post by ti on Jan 22, 2014 9:10:03 GMT
Hmm I quite like Cattermole. Although in fairness I liked him in a not playing for Stoke way. If he can curb his enthusiasm for red cards I think he would get into a midfield three together with N'Zonzi and Ireland. Not exactly a game changing acquisition but an improvement nevertheless.
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Post by foster on Jan 22, 2014 9:22:42 GMT
Does Hughes have a significant transfer kitty after all then? I'd understand Cattermole if it were £2m - but £5m on a slight Whelan upgrade (I hope) is a lot of money to be laying out when there are significant sums to be spent elsewhere on the team. Baffling that we seem to have been letting targets pass us by for 12 motnths, just for the sake of a few quid, and then sanction £5m for Cattermole. The club has spent 20m+ per season on new players since we've been in the Prem, so I don't see why MH wouldn't be allowed that or at least close to that. I don;t believe any news or club statements regarding us not having any money. Tightening the pursestrings doesn't mean you won;t spend. It just means that you're more careful about what you spend your money on. The main difference being that MHs is expected to bring in players with more (or some) resale value which usually gets you less quality for your money. I think the 5m is exaggerated. I can't see it being more than 3m, but even so, you can't expect much of a 26 yr old 5m player, considering we could get at least half that back even in 2 years (providing he's not injured or does a Palacios). In fact, I reckon we could probably buy him for the same price as we could sell him. I'm neither worried by our transfers nor our league position if I'm honest. I think we'll be fine, whether we bring in any more new faces or not.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 22, 2014 9:50:58 GMT
I've always liked Cattermole the player but just putting aside his injury and disciplinary records (which absolutely HAVE to be of a concern - to ignore them is to be vary naïve) for a moment, what bothers me now, is that I haven't seen that much of him recently and reading the Sunderland message board they (almost to a man) can't believe that a figure of £5 million is being mentioned and they would rip our hands off if true.
Why do so many Sunderalnd fans want to see the back of him and are gloating at it being Stoke again taking their dead wood ... they're in a relegation fight too?
It'd be like Norwich coming in for Palacios, rather than Whelan, from us.
There'd be a lot of people pleased to see the back of Whelan but just as many would stick up for him if he was on the way but Palacios wouldn't have much support at all.
Would the Norwich fans be fools to think that the Stokies were just being twats for wanting to see the back of Palacios?
It appears that we might be in the same position with Cattermole now and that does worry me.
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Post by Plave on Jan 22, 2014 10:03:51 GMT
If there's anyone here who doesn't think we desperately need a strong midfielder to shield the back four then I don't know what team you watch but it isn't Stoke City.
It's something we needed last season but with our current formation it's even more important, as important as a man who can get us goals.
Not saying Cattermole is the answer, I've not watched him closely enough but we are crying out for someone in the role, Whelan just isn't good enough.
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Post by foster on Jan 22, 2014 10:14:20 GMT
I've always liked Cattermole the player but just putting aside his injury and disciplinary records (which absolutely HAVE to be of a concern - to ignore them is to be vary naïve) for a moment, what bothers me now, is that I haven't seen that much of him recently and reading the Sunderland message board they (almost to a man) can't believe that a figure of £5 million is being mentioned and they would rip our hands off if true. Why do so many Sunderalnd fans want to see the back of him and are gloating at it being Stoke again taking their dead wood ... they're in a relegation fight too? It'd be like Norwich coming in for Palacios, rather than Whelan, from us. There'd be a lot of people pleased to see the back of Whelan but just as many would stick up for him if he was on the way but Palacios wouldn't have much support at all. Would the Norwich fans be fools to think that the Stokies were just being twats for wanting to see the back of Palacios? It appears that we might be in the same position with Cattermole now and that does worry me. Come on Paul, you know how it is on message boards. Someone doesn't play for a few weeks and suddenly they become deadwood, a stain on the club, a money grabbing lazy worthless camel dung of a human being, but most of all, shit at football. As some of our recent acquisitions have proven, this is indeed not the case.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2014 10:18:54 GMT
If there's anyone here who doesn't think we desperately need a strong midfielder to shield the back four then I don't know what team you watch but it isn't Stoke City. It's something we needed last season but with our current formation it's even more important, as important as a man who can get us goals. Not saying Cattermole is the answer, I've not watched him closely enough but we are crying out for someone in the role, Whelan just isn't good enough. Yet Whelan has played much better than Nzonzi this season. How is he not good enough, i'm opening old wounds and i'm getting bored of defending Whelan but this is my last shot, honestly it is. A parting shot of sorts. I'm not going to change peoples minds, those who have always disliked Whelan and would do if he put man of the match performance after man of the match performance in, which he actually has done since coming back into the team. Sod that though yeah? Forget what you see in front of your eyes, especially if you see with your mind not your eyes. Which is what happens, minds are made up, judgements are called, "I think he's shit" so he plays well yet he's still shit and we need an "upgrade" I think a few of a supporters need an upgrade on their heads. Same thing happened all last season, Nzonzi would have a crap game, Whelan would be fantastic. No one would get on Nzonzi's back, first misplaced pass in the second half by Whelan "FUCKIN' WANK WHELAN, FUCKIN' CHAMPIONSHIP HE IS" God knows people are thick alright. What's the French for blinkered? Eh, they dunna have one. Whelan has been mint so far this season and is an integral part of our starting XI, the much needed defensive midfielder. Until the last game he played where he had a bad un, like most of our team and now all of sudden "he's shit, someone wants him? i'd drive him there meself" and other hilarious, ahem, things are being said about wanting to get rid of him. He's better than Cattermole is. In my opinion. Oooof, steady! Lee Cattermole, what a player. Of all the central midfielders in all the squads in all the world, why on earth are we seemingly trying to sign this clogger? Because he's better than Whelan? Yeah, right he is. Also people seem to be doubting Whelans spirit, fight, commitment. How on earth can you do that, of all of our squad he is one of the most stubborn, feisty and hardworking of the bunch. That's it, i'm officially done defending Whelan. There's none so blind as fuckin' idiots. Hey, that dun't sound right.
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