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Shawcross
Dec 19, 2013 0:26:52 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 19, 2013 0:26:52 GMT
Wilson is Irish but no he wasn't. Shawcross picked up Wellbeck leaving Wilson with little to do. He never gave him a kick!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 19, 2013 0:27:12 GMT
We need him with a busy Xmas period ahead. I'd go with GCam.........Wilson......Eric..........Muniesa If center back is Camerons position then he has to go there, because he hasn't got a clue at right back, and we have no one else that is used to that position.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Dec 19, 2013 0:47:09 GMT
Wilson is Irish but no he wasn't. Shawcross picked up Wellbeck leaving Wilson with little to do. He never gave him a kick! Absolutly immaculate performance,, I would say decent, apart from his needless kicks into the stands giving away possesion, his man handling in the box is going to cost us at some stage and Wellback got a good header in Can see Huth and Wilson being the main partnership
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Post by stone6 on Dec 19, 2013 7:52:26 GMT
Didn't Kenwyne Jones play CB at Sunderland? problem solved. ;-)
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Post by chiswickpotter on Dec 19, 2013 8:17:48 GMT
Is it just me who thinks there's some kind of perverse humour in the fact we used to be bereft of Full Backs and over-loaded with centre halves, and now it's the bloody opposite! Quite comical really for a PL club to not really have a designated cb for cover on the books like Upson or Woodgate.. Bad roster management under both managers. What are you talking about, we have Wilson who has been excellent, Cameron and Pieters who play centre abck, so 5 centrebacks looks like reasonable cover to me and this ignores Edu and N'Zonzi who has played there.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 19, 2013 8:19:33 GMT
Muniesa and defending shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence.
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 19, 2013 14:58:55 GMT
When will we have news on Shawxy's injury?
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Shawcross
Dec 19, 2013 15:28:58 GMT
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Post by werrington on Dec 19, 2013 15:28:58 GMT
When will we have news on Shawxy's injury? Radio Stoke said today
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Post by lawrieleslie on Dec 19, 2013 16:27:39 GMT
When will we have news on Shawxy's injury? Radio Stoke said today What did they say Wezzer? Been on official site today to look but the scamming b******s want you to subscribe to see anything but the home page.
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Post by lostinafrenchbar on Dec 19, 2013 16:51:43 GMT
How's Shotton been doing at Wigan?
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Shawcross
Dec 19, 2013 16:57:12 GMT
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Post by werrington on Dec 19, 2013 16:57:12 GMT
What did they say Wezzer? Been on official site today to look but the scamming b******s want you to subscribe to see anything but the home page. On 8:30 sports news that they would know today if he was available for Villa mate
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 21:57:42 GMT
Anyone heard anything about his injury today?
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Shawcross
Dec 19, 2013 22:49:57 GMT
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Post by stokemanusa on Dec 19, 2013 22:49:57 GMT
I dont think it's as bad as everyone initially thought. He prob will miss villa on precaution it sounds.
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Shawcross
Dec 20, 2013 2:12:54 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 20, 2013 2:12:54 GMT
Short memories on here. When Huth got injured everyone was saying we were fucked. Wilson has stepped up and been brilliant though. If Ryan is out then I'm sure Cameron (who has been fantastic) can step in and Wilko can fill in at right back. I'm a huge Shawcross fan but some of the shyte I see on here is unreal. Wilson and Cameron were fantastic today. For once I totally agree. Playing as a CD in Hughes team is a whole new ball game as to what we were used to. Wilson and Cameron or Pieters isn't ideal but is a decent stop gap.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 20, 2013 3:02:37 GMT
I'm not to worried tbh, its not great obviously but hopefully he wont be out long and with Camerons position being CB then he shouldn't be to bad, at least he should get his positioning right in his favored position.
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Post by roylandstoke on Dec 20, 2013 3:15:45 GMT
Would it be worth trying pushing GCam into midfield and playing a back 2 of Wilson and Pieters with Palacios watching from 10 yards deeper.
We could at least try it for 10 seconds or so to see if it works.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 20, 2013 3:17:24 GMT
Would it be worth trying pushing GCam into midfield and playing a back 2 of Wilson and Pieters with Palacios watching from 10 yards deeper. We could at least try it for 10 seconds or so to see if it works. I think that might be over complicating things, tbh I think CM is the least of our problems at the min.
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Shawcross
Dec 20, 2013 6:29:52 GMT
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Post by Stoke711 on Dec 20, 2013 6:29:52 GMT
A few weeks ago I thought we were screwed losing Huth but Wilson has been fantastic, I have every confidence GCam or whoever Hughes trusts will step up to the task and fill in admirably.
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Post by AlanHansen on Dec 20, 2013 8:06:37 GMT
We need him with a busy Xmas period ahead. I'd go with GCam.........Wilson......Eric..........Muniesa Seriously? Muniesa is weak in a team with Shawcross in it, never mind without him. It was pure stupidity to go into this season without decent centre back cover, a mess created in the last January window when Upson left. Making the best if a terrible mess would be: Wilko Cameron Wilson Pieters I don't rate Cameron at CB (he's got a lack of where to put himself and would be a liability there IMHO) but if he plays there for America then he must have it in him somewhere?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 20, 2013 9:25:51 GMT
IF Benteke doesn't fill his boots on Saturday then he never will. To say I'm worried about us being bullied is an understatement.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2013 9:28:30 GMT
We need him with a busy Xmas period ahead. I'd go with GCam.........Wilson......Eric..........Muniesa I'd go with that as well.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Dec 20, 2013 9:28:50 GMT
We need him with a busy Xmas period ahead. I'd go with GCam.........Wilson......Eric..........Muniesa Seriously? Muniesa is weak in a team with Shawcross in it, never mind without him. It was pure stupidity to go into this season without decent centre back cover, a mess created in the last January window when Upson left. Making the best if a terrible mess would be: Wilko Cameron Wilson Pieters I don't rate Cameron at CB (he's got a lack of where to put himself and would be a liability there IMHO) but if he plays there for America then he must have it in him somewhere? We have decent centre back cover, Wilson, America's first choice centre back and a Dutch international who has often played there. How much cover do you want? First time in 4 years that Huth and Shawcross ahve been injured at the same time, can't plan for that
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Post by lordb on Dec 20, 2013 9:31:34 GMT
I'd prefer Wilko at CB to Muniesa
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Post by jeycov on Dec 20, 2013 9:32:42 GMT
Seriously? Muniesa is weak in a team with Shawcross in it, never mind without him. It was pure stupidity to go into this season without decent centre back cover, a mess created in the last January window when Upson left. Making the best if a terrible mess would be: Wilko Cameron Wilson Pieters I don't rate Cameron at CB (he's got a lack of where to put himself and would be a liability there IMHO) but if he plays there for America then he must have it in him somewhere? We have decent centre back cover, Wilson, America's first choice centre back and a Dutch international who has often played there. How much cover do you want? First time in 4 years that Huth and Shawcross ahve been injured at the same time, can't plan for that By having these 3 plus Wilkinson we have made some planning for such a situation. This is where the value of building a squad is important. If we can score some goals then the impact of losing 2 key defenders will be minimised. Keeping the pressure on a young Vila side is an important strategy imo.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2013 9:44:29 GMT
I think Cameron, despite his own frailties at times, is too important at right back to move from there to central defence or midfield. He's doing well where he is.
For me Pieters is built like a centre half and Muniesa offers more going forward at LB.
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Shawcross
Dec 20, 2013 9:48:10 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Dec 20, 2013 9:48:10 GMT
On Twitter, Villa fans are unsurprisingly jumping for joy at the thought of Shawcross not playing.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 20, 2013 9:50:07 GMT
What is Eric's track record at centre half? How many top level games has he played there? For me you have to go with the two international centre backs,
Wilko Cameron Wilson Eric
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Shawcross
Dec 20, 2013 9:57:44 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Dec 20, 2013 9:57:44 GMT
What is Eric's track record at centre half? How many top level games has he played there? For me you have to go with the two international centre backs, Wilko Cameron Wilson Eric This...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2013 9:59:31 GMT
What is Eric's track record at centre half? How many top level games has he played there? For me you have to go with the two international centre backs, Wilko Cameron Wilson Eric I have no idea. But beyond the odd decent ball in he's doing absolutely sod all for me at full back.
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Post by stokiejoe on Dec 20, 2013 10:01:08 GMT
What is Eric's track record at centre half? How many top level games has he played there? For me you have to go with the two international centre backs, Wilko Cameron Wilson Eric If not there is no point in retaining Wilko
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