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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 0:37:26 GMT
He had his moments for us when he was given the chance, even if he ultimately blew it big time. Yes, mate, only joking though. But do you really think Marc was just a "bang average" fullback when he was at his best for us? Not sure I agree with you on that one. Sure, he was never the kind of fullback who supported the attacks by overlapping the winger - hugging the sidelines. But, he very rarely let anyone go past him when in form. He had his "fake-cross-dribble" that always did the job. He kept on feeding the forwards with good crosses from the back. In my opinion, at his best, Marc Wilson was more than just a "bang average fullback" for us. When was he at his best? For me he offered nothing going forward, was painfully one footed and had a tendency to leave gaps and switch off. He wasn't terrible, he did improve, but he never looked anything beyond a temporary, awkward solution there to me.
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Post by prem4stoke on Oct 30, 2013 0:39:57 GMT
Says the man who was in favour of playing Shotton on the wing... Laugh all you want but I would still play Shotton ahead of Pennant. Pennant cannot beat a man anymore. At the time we had Pennant, Walters, Whitehead and Shotton I though Shotton was the better of the four at the time.
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Post by Bombus on Oct 30, 2013 0:39:57 GMT
But, soon found out that Marc could do a better job at fullback - which he apparently got 100% right. He did but TP's record when it comes to signing central midfielders has been pretty shocking and this just backs that up. I think since we signed Diao, we've had Delap, Whelan, Faye (for half a season) and N'Zonzi who are the only ones I've not thought have been pretty useless. And on 4 of them, lots would disagree! It was a weak area for him, it didn't need to be a strong point...lets be honest. And the current crop are a continuation of that and they need to be changed. You keep forgetting Deano, mate It is true what you say though. Pulis always felt like having a bit of trouble figuring out how to use the central midfield (with the 2010-11 season as an exception for me).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 0:41:19 GMT
Says the man who was in favour of playing Shotton on the wing... Laugh all you want. Cheers, I will.
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Post by prem4stoke on Oct 30, 2013 0:42:23 GMT
Your wrong pal Pennant has lost it and did years ago.
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Post by Bombus on Oct 30, 2013 0:42:45 GMT
Yes, mate, only joking though. But do you really think Marc was just a "bang average" fullback when he was at his best for us? Not sure I agree with you on that one. Sure, he was never the kind of fullback who supported the attacks by overlapping the winger - hugging the sidelines. But, he very rarely let anyone go past him when in form. He had his "fake-cross-dribble" that always did the job. He kept on feeding the forwards with good crosses from the back. In my opinion, at his best, Marc Wilson was more than just a "bang average fullback" for us. When was he at his best? For me he offered nothing going forward, was painfully one footed and had a tendency to leave gaps and switch off. He wasn't terrible, he did improve, but he never looked anything beyond a temporary, awkward solution there to me. I thought, along with Glenn Whelan, that Marc Wilson was our best player for the first half of last season. At the time I'd say he was one of the better leftbacks in the Premiership.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 1:14:24 GMT
The worst player on the pitch tonight was Marc Wilson! And when I say pitch I mean it! Absolutely dreadful performance
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 7:04:38 GMT
Your wrong pal Pennant has lost it and did years ago. He may well have done. Still a better option there than a centre half. But then 'experiments' are ok if the infallible one tries them, obviously.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 7:06:23 GMT
When was he at his best? For me he offered nothing going forward, was painfully one footed and had a tendency to leave gaps and switch off. He wasn't terrible, he did improve, but he never looked anything beyond a temporary, awkward solution there to me. I thought, along with Glenn Whelan, that Marc Wilson was our best player for the first half of last season. At the time I'd say he was one of the better leftbacks in the Premiership. He looked better than he had done until he broke his leg. Can't agree with your last sentence.
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Post by sportsman on Oct 30, 2013 7:24:38 GMT
Just after we bought him peter coates did an interview on stoke world where he said the player he was most excited about was wilson in midfield. Said he was a great talent.
positives out of last night: We're through to next round Scoring goals and penalties players had tough work out on heavy pitch, beats training session wilson probably wont even make the bench Saturday. Needs to get on the training ground and be worked on tirelessly.
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Post by Bombus on Oct 30, 2013 12:18:47 GMT
I thought, along with Glenn Whelan, that Marc Wilson was our best player for the first half of last season. At the time I'd say he was one of the better leftbacks in the Premiership. He looked better than he had done until he broke his leg. Can't agree with your last sentence. Agreed. But, only the top-clubs + Everton had better leftbacks at the time. EDIT: Didn't Pulis say there was big interest from clubs regarding Marc? I'm pretty sure Liverpool were one of the teams he got linked with.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 13:13:09 GMT
I just don't buy that Bombus. Sorry. I can believe Brendan might have had a passing fancy in him but can't agree with the 'only the top clubs' stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 13:27:14 GMT
what a load of codswallop.wilson had a bad game last night and suddenly everyones on his back.he is a good squad player likewise whelan i am not saying they should both start but they would both be on my bench. walters-he would be in my team-everyone concentrates on his misses and yes they are too numerous for comfort.saturdays was a shocker why he hit it as if he was 30 yards away i will never know? i would have scored with my bell end!!!i would sack him from pens too but the support he gives the other players is immeasurable. it doesnt look good on highlights but those at the match can see. who supports the attack-walters who supports the midfield-walters who supports the defence-walters many on here will not want to hear that but its the truth
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Post by stokeyank on Oct 30, 2013 15:01:33 GMT
what a load of codswallop.wilson had a bad game last night and suddenly everyones on his back.he is a good squad player likewise whelan i am not saying they should both start but they would both be on my bench. walters-he would be in my team-everyone concentrates on his misses and yes they are too numerous for comfort.saturdays was a shocker why he hit it as if he was 30 yards away i will never know? i would have scored with my bell end!!!i would sack him from pens too but the support he gives the other players is immeasurable. it doesnt look good on highlights but those at the match can see. who supports the attack-walters who supports the midfield-walters who supports the defence-walters many on here will not want to hear that but its the truth Wasn't just last night Wilson was bad, it had been going that way for the better part of a year. He's had a few descent runs but not near the quality needed to see the field over some other options. Problem with Walters is not that he does not support others, the problem is he does very little else. There are some who can do the same support but while adding a bit more to the attack (he is a winger/striker after all).
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 30, 2013 18:33:34 GMT
He did but TP's record when it comes to signing central midfielders has been pretty shocking and this just backs that up. I think since we signed Diao, we've had Delap, Whelan, Faye (for half a season) and N'Zonzi who are the only ones I've not thought have been pretty useless. And on 4 of them, lots would disagree! It was a weak area for him, it didn't need to be a strong point...lets be honest. And the current crop are a continuation of that and they need to be changed. You keep forgetting Deano, mate It is true what you say though. Pulis always felt like having a bit of trouble figuring out how to use the central midfield (with the 2010-11 season as an exception for me). How could I forget Dean Whitehead? Shocking. For the majority of his second spell here, he had one partnership that was the go to one and that was Delap and Whelan. He tried replacing both of them but never really could until N'Zonzi arrived. Faye was more than useful but he was a half season wonder. Then there's a whole of shit who we bought in and just never really worked for us.
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Post by moult50 on Oct 30, 2013 18:58:22 GMT
Quite agree.
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