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Post by kevkj on Oct 29, 2013 21:47:56 GMT
Get rid one of them costs us every match,
Fortunately Whitehead went just sack Walters,Whelan Wilson.Terrible players.
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Post by Jimm on Oct 29, 2013 21:54:42 GMT
I think Palacios has warranted his place in the side by the sound of it & Saturdays performance, just Walters to go now  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 22:13:29 GMT
Correct, Kev. They are not up to Premiership level. End of!
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Post by southstanddan on Oct 29, 2013 22:34:44 GMT
Sack them and play who? I'm sure if we had a team of stars they wouldn't be near the first team - like pennant, wilko, ringtone, jones to name but a few. They are average Prem players, we are a average Prem team (at best)
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Post by jarvinski on Oct 29, 2013 23:13:26 GMT
The w's are absolute dogshit
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 29, 2013 23:16:51 GMT
Get rid one of them costs us every match, Fortunately Whitehead went just sack Walters,Whelan Wilson.Terrible players. Completely agree... When arnie and assaidi came it really showed how shit they really are... we need a midfield overhaul in the window to get younger and more skilled for cheap. |
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Post by lastoftheldk on Oct 29, 2013 23:29:31 GMT
We still need Whelan
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Post by Bombus on Oct 29, 2013 23:33:36 GMT
I can't even remember Marc Wilson getting stick once on here before this season.
Let alone getting a thread of his own.
But, for some reason, I've both heard and read people saying "I always said he was shite" numerous times since the managerial change.
How come?
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Post by prem4stoke on Oct 30, 2013 0:01:32 GMT
I can't even remember Marc Wilson getting stick once on here before this season. Let alone getting a thread of his own. But, for some reason, I've both heard and read people saying "I always said he was shite" numerous times since the managerial change. How come? That is because most thought they knew best and said Pulis played him out of position. He is clearly out of position now! |
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Post by Bombus on Oct 30, 2013 0:14:30 GMT
I can't even remember Marc Wilson getting stick once on here before this season. Let alone getting a thread of his own. But, for some reason, I've both heard and read people saying "I always said he was shite" numerous times since the managerial change. How come? That is because most thought they knew best and said Pulis played him out of position. He is clearly out of position now! Couldn't have put it better myself, mate. But at the same time, they have finished 6th on Football Manager with him in the middle of the park haven't they...  Saying that, I actually thought he did better than I expected he would in the central of the midfield in the first few games. The question is: Was that only a coincidence or is he just having a hard time getting his head down at the moment? Whatever it may be - Les should keep putting him on the bench (or out of the full 18 even), and at the moment there are currently two players who I'd pick before him at his old left back spot. Not that easy being Marc Wilson right now. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 0:15:08 GMT
I can't even remember Marc Wilson getting stick once on here before this season. Let alone getting a thread of his own. But, for some reason, I've both heard and read people saying "I always said he was shite" numerous times since the managerial change. How come? That is because most thought they knew best and said Pulis played him out of position. He is clearly out of position now! Would this be the TP that stumped up two players plus cash for him to be the answer to our midfield problems and wrote him off almost immediately? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 30, 2013 0:16:04 GMT
I can't even remember Marc Wilson getting stick once on here before this season. Let alone getting a thread of his own. But, for some reason, I've both heard and read people saying "I always said he was shite" numerous times since the managerial change. How come? Cos I did! In midfield anyway! This is a good un; oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/165948/wilson-slow |
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Post by prem4stoke on Oct 30, 2013 0:17:07 GMT
That is because most thought they knew best and said Pulis played him out of position. He is clearly out of position now! Couldn't have put it better myself, mate. But at the same time, they have finished 6th on Football Manager with him in the middle of the park haven't they... Saying that, I actually thought he did better than I expected he would in the central of the midfield in the first few games. The question is: Was that only a coincidence or is he just having a hard time getting his head down at the moment? Whatever it may be - Les should keep putting him on the bench (or out of the full 18 even), and at the moment there are currently two players who I'd pick before him at his old left back spot. Not that easy being Marc Wilson right now. That is now the case he was good at left back but now we have possibly two better so it's possibly is exit time. |
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Post by prem4stoke on Oct 30, 2013 0:20:12 GMT
That is because most thought they knew best and said Pulis played him out of position. He is clearly out of position now! Would this be the TP that stumped up two players plus cash for him to be the answer to our midfield problems and wrote him off almost immediately? So what? He probably found out he wasn't a midfielder that Marc thinks he is shit happens. By the way how do you know he got him as a midfielder seeing as he spent a lot of time at the back at Portsmouth? |
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Post by Bombus on Oct 30, 2013 0:21:09 GMT
I can't even remember Marc Wilson getting stick once on here before this season. Let alone getting a thread of his own. But, for some reason, I've both heard and read people saying "I always said he was shite" numerous times since the managerial change. How come? Cos I did! In midfield anyway! This is a good un; oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/165948/wilson-slowI have to say, you never cease to surprise/impress me, Bayern!  |
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Post by Bombus on Oct 30, 2013 0:22:01 GMT
Couldn't have put it better myself, mate. But at the same time, they have finished 6th on Football Manager with him in the middle of the park haven't they... Saying that, I actually thought he did better than I expected he would in the central of the midfield in the first few games. The question is: Was that only a coincidence or is he just having a hard time getting his head down at the moment? Whatever it may be - Les should keep putting him on the bench (or out of the full 18 even), and at the moment there are currently two players who I'd pick before him at his old left back spot. Not that easy being Marc Wilson right now. That is now the case he was good at left back but now we have possibly two better so it's possibly is exit time. Fully agreed once more, mate. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 30, 2013 0:22:14 GMT
Would this be the TP that stumped up two players plus cash for him to be the answer to our midfield problems and wrote him off almost immediately? So what? He probably found out he wasn't a midfielder that Marc thinks he is shit happens. By the way how do you know he got him as a midfielder seeing as he spent a lot of time at the back at Portsmouth? It was said at the time, much to our surprise because he had played at the back like You say. And then to back that up that's where he played in his first few games for us. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 0:23:07 GMT
Would this be the TP that stumped up two players plus cash for him to be the answer to our midfield problems and wrote him off almost immediately? So what? He probably found out he wasn't a midfielder that Marc thinks he is shit happens. By the way how do you know he got him as a midfielder seeing as he spent a lot of time at the back at Portsmouth? Because Pulis said so repeatedly when we were trying to sign him and just after we signed him and he played his first 5-6 games for us there? So Pulis is as guilty as you're making everyone else out to be for 'thinking he's a midfielder'. He signed him to be one. |
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Post by Bombus on Oct 30, 2013 0:23:44 GMT
That is because most thought they knew best and said Pulis played him out of position. He is clearly out of position now! Would this be the TP that stumped up two players plus cash for him to be the answer to our midfield problems and wrote him off almost immediately? Really, Rob? You'd call the ginger-one a player? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 0:23:48 GMT
He improved at left back but was still no better than bang average there.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 0:24:27 GMT
Would this be the TP that stumped up two players plus cash for him to be the answer to our midfield problems and wrote him off almost immediately? Really, Rob? You'd call the ginger-one a player? He had his moments for us when he was given the chance, even if he ultimately blew it big time. |
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Post by prem4stoke on Oct 30, 2013 0:25:50 GMT
So what? He probably found out he wasn't a midfielder that Marc thinks he is shit happens. By the way how do you know he got him as a midfielder seeing as he spent a lot of time at the back at Portsmouth? Because Pulis said so repeatedly when we were trying to sign him and just after we signed him and he played his first 5-6 games for us there? So Pulis is as guilty as you're making everyone else out to be for 'thinking he's a midfielder'. He signed him to be one. He probably was guilty like I said I'm not bothered he clearly isn't a midfielder and TP knew it after those 5-6 games so why try it again? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 30, 2013 0:25:53 GMT
I have to say, you never cease to surprise/impress me, Bayern! If You throw enough shit.... But with all seriousness on this, I called it from his debut and always hoped that I was wrong. You can still the glimmer that I still hold on to in that thread. That's gone. He's had his second chance and completely cocked it up, making the same mistakes. It's time to be ruthless imo. |
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Post by Bombus on Oct 30, 2013 0:26:38 GMT
So what? He probably found out he wasn't a midfielder that Marc thinks he is shit happens. By the way how do you know he got him as a midfielder seeing as he spent a lot of time at the back at Portsmouth? Because Pulis said so repeatedly when we were trying to sign him and just after we signed him and he played his first 5-6 games for us there? So Pulis is as guilty as you're making everyone else out to be for 'thinking he's a midfielder'. He signed him to be one. But, soon found out that Marc could do a better job at fullback - which he apparently got 100% right. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 0:28:46 GMT
Because Pulis said so repeatedly when we were trying to sign him and just after we signed him and he played his first 5-6 games for us there? So Pulis is as guilty as you're making everyone else out to be for 'thinking he's a midfielder'. He signed him to be one. He probably was guilty like I said I'm not bothered he clearly isn't a midfielder and TP knew it after those 5-6 games so why try it again? Because we can't keep chucking money at players and writing them off almost immediately? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 0:29:45 GMT
Because Pulis said so repeatedly when we were trying to sign him and just after we signed him and he played his first 5-6 games for us there? So Pulis is as guilty as you're making everyone else out to be for 'thinking he's a midfielder'. He signed him to be one. But, soon found out that Marc could do a better job at fullback - which he apparently got 100% right. I don't think he is especially better there. Doesn't say much for our scouting if we're committing to midfielders we suddenly realise can't play there? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 30, 2013 0:30:40 GMT
Because Pulis said so repeatedly when we were trying to sign him and just after we signed him and he played his first 5-6 games for us there? So Pulis is as guilty as you're making everyone else out to be for 'thinking he's a midfielder'. He signed him to be one. But, soon found out that Marc could do a better job at fullback - which he apparently got 100% right. He did but TP's record when it comes to signing central midfielders has been pretty shocking and this just backs that up. I think since we signed Diao, we've had Delap, Whelan, Faye (for half a season) and N'Zonzi who are the only ones I've not thought have been pretty useless. And on 4 of them, lots would disagree! It was a weak area for him, it didn't need to be a strong point...lets be honest. And the current crop are a continuation of that and they need to be changed. |
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Post by prem4stoke on Oct 30, 2013 0:31:47 GMT
He probably was guilty like I said I'm not bothered he clearly isn't a midfielder and TP knew it after those 5-6 games so why try it again? Because we can't keep chucking money at players and writing them off almost immediately? Sorry I would play him in reserve games in midfield first to see how he fares even if that takes weeks months. The prem is not a place for experiments especially when they have already been experimented. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 0:33:41 GMT
Says the man who was in favour of playing Shotton on the wing...
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Post by Bombus on Oct 30, 2013 0:33:56 GMT
Really, Rob? You'd call the ginger-one a player? He had his moments for us when he was given the chance, even if he ultimately blew it big time. Yes, mate, only joking though. But do you really think Marc was just a "bang average" fullback when he was at his best for us? Not sure I agree with you on that one. Sure, he was never the kind of fullback who supported the attacks by overlapping the winger - hugging the sidelines. But, he very rarely let anyone go past him when in form. He had his "fake-cross-dribble" that always did the job. He kept on feeding the forwards with good crosses from the back. In my opinion, at his best, Marc Wilson was more than just a "bang average fullback" for us. |
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