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Post by followyoudown on Nov 14, 2013 0:31:19 GMT
I think with patience he'll make a test batter but as a wicket keeper I'd place him behind Read, Davies, Kieswetter and Butler. Read's face doesn't fit and is getting on and even though he's left my team Somerset now I'd pick draft Butler into the squad as he has the potential to be a stunning player. There is no doubt in my mind that Chris Read is the best wicket keeper in England and has been for years ...and he should have been playing for England for the last ten years on a regular basis....sadly they don't select teams on that basis these days Have to agree, he has been the best keeper by a country mile for years. Can't remember if it was Vaughan or Fletcher who didn't rate him as he wasn't a talker and didn't tell the bowlers what the ball was doing so instead they picked Geriant Jones......
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 0:42:13 GMT
There is no doubt in my mind that Chris Read is the best wicket keeper in England and has been for years ...and he should have been playing for England for the last ten years on a regular basis....sadly they don't select teams on that basis these days Have to agree, he has been the best keeper by a country mile for years. Can't remember if it was Vaughan or Fletcher who didn't rate him as he wasn't a talker and didn't tell the bowlers what the ball was doing so instead they picked Geriant Jones...... It was Duncan.Fletcher mate......and for some reason he was a Geraint Jones fan
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Post by ukcstokie on Nov 14, 2013 0:52:16 GMT
Have to agree, he has been the best keeper by a country mile for years. Can't remember if it was Vaughan or Fletcher who didn't rate him as he wasn't a talker and didn't tell the bowlers what the ball was doing so instead they picked Geriant Jones...... It was Duncan.Fletcher mate......and for some reason he was a Geraint Jones fan Isn't Geraint Jones playing for Papua New Guinea in the ICC World Twenty20 Qualifiers in the United Arab Emirate at the moment?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 0:54:17 GMT
It was Duncan.Fletcher mate......and for some reason he was a Geraint Jones fan Isn't Geraint Jones playing for Papua New Guinea in the ICC World Twenty20 Qualifiers in the United Arab Emirate at the moment? Yes I believe he is mate ...he was born there though
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Post by ukcstokie on Nov 14, 2013 0:57:47 GMT
Isn't Geraint Jones playing for Papua New Guinea in the ICC World Twenty20 Qualifiers in the United Arab Emirate at the moment? Yes I believe he is mate ...he was born there though yes - looked on Wiki after seeing on SSN this morning. Does seem strange that you can present more than one county (yes I know all the precedents, including Morgan, Welllels, etc.). I do think cricket needs to learn something from football.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 1:05:52 GMT
Yes I believe he is mate ...he was born there though yes - looked on Wiki after seeing on SSN this morning. Does seem strange that you can present more than one county (yes I know all the precedents, including Morgan, Welllels, etc.). I do think cricket needs to learn something from football. It does not work that way for me ...you represent a country and that is what you are ....English or whatever you can not change your alliegience in my book
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Post by duckdownunder59 on Nov 15, 2013 8:41:16 GMT
SACA [South Australian Cricket Association]members ticket arrived today.
Bring on the 2nd Test.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2013 9:41:58 GMT
SACA [South Australian Cricket Association]members ticket arrived today. Bring on the 2nd Test. Let's win at Brisbane first .....
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Post by BigKahunaBurger on Nov 15, 2013 11:05:16 GMT
Absolutely over the moon that i've got next Thursday and Friday off work. Doing a couple of night shifts in front of the TV instead!
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Post by ukcstokie on Nov 17, 2013 20:07:09 GMT
So will it be: Cooke Carberry Trott Pietersen Bell Root Prior/Bairstow Broad Swann Tremlett Anderson?
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Post by jonah77 on Nov 17, 2013 20:08:42 GMT
So will it be: Cooke Carberry Trott Pietersen Bell Root Prior/Bairstow Broad Swann Tremlett Anderson? I like the look of that.
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Post by harrysburrow on Nov 17, 2013 20:15:57 GMT
Has Tremlett been shaping up better than Finn? What's the position with Prior's calf strain?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 20:20:33 GMT
So will it be: Cooke Carberry Trott Pietersen Bell Root Prior/Bairstow Broad Swann Tremlett Anderson? I like the look of that. I think they may well go with that line up ....with Finn next in line for a bowling spot
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 20:23:33 GMT
Has Tremlett been shaping up better than Finn? What's the position with Prior's calf strain? Confident that Prior will be fit ......apparently their is still concern about the amount of runs Finn may concede even though he has taken wickets in the warm ups .....I like Finn and think he will play at some point , but think they will go for Tremlett's extra bounce
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Post by harrysburrow on Nov 17, 2013 20:28:27 GMT
Has Tremlett been shaping up better than Finn? What's the position with Prior's calf strain? Confident that Prior will be fit ......apparently their is still concern about the amount of runs Finn may concede even though he has taken wickets in the warm ups .....I like Finn and think he will play at some point , but think they will go for Tremlett's extra bounce Well he did nicely out there last time mate. Not long now - when does your lad get over here by the way?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 17, 2013 21:35:07 GMT
Surely it'll be Finn or Rankin? If Tremlett was in line, he'd have played in the last warm up game?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 21:58:43 GMT
Confident that Prior will be fit ......apparently their is still concern about the amount of runs Finn may concede even though he has taken wickets in the warm ups .....I like Finn and think he will play at some point , but think they will go for Tremlett's extra bounce Well he did nicely out there last time mate. Not long now - when does your lad get over here by the way? Well it's all gone a bit vague with him it was supposed to be the 20th .....I'm not sure it will be this week at all
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 22:04:00 GMT
Surely it'll be Finn or Rankin? If Tremlett was in line, he'd have played in the last warm up game? You would have thought that mate but the noises coming out suggest the opposite .....personally I would go for Finn if they think he is bowling well enough , he will take wickets out there .....they just seem wary of the runs he concedes either way they are both decent enough bowlers to do the job , I'm not sure about Rankin playing unless through injury
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Post by ukcstokie on Nov 18, 2013 0:33:32 GMT
I just don't see that you can rely on Finn to carry out 'our' plan of putting pressure on the Ozzie batsmen by keeping it tight when the game goes quiet.
On the last tour of Oz, I think that's why he got dropped - just can't keep it tight enough when needed.
Shame, he's great at taking wickets, but perhaps jut doesn't work in a 4 man attack.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2013 0:54:37 GMT
I just don't see that you can rely on Finn to carry out 'our' plan of putting pressure on the Ozzie batsmen by keeping it tight when the game goes quiet. On the last tour of Oz, I think that's why he got dropped - just can't keep it tight enough when needed. Shame, he's great at taking wickets, but perhaps jut doesn't work in a 4 man attack. That's exactly right mate ....that is the weakness of the four man attack principle .....if one bowler has a bad day you are stuffed , the other three are over bowled to compensate ....I have never agreed with it I think five bowlers are essential ....the problem being in a four man attack is you worry about playing a wicket taking bowler ...it's a little negative ....you should have enough runs in the book with six batsmen ...Including Prior we play seven .....it's one to many for me if you haven't got a good all rounder you should play five bowlers ...But they have been successful with this approach for some time and I can't see them changing
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2013 0:57:24 GMT
I just don't see that you can rely on Finn to carry out 'our' plan of putting pressure on the Ozzie batsmen by keeping it tight when the game goes quiet. On the last tour of Oz, I think that's why he got dropped - just can't keep it tight enough when needed. Shame, he's great at taking wickets, but perhaps jut doesn't work in a 4 man attack. The role of a strike bowler is to get wickets though ....that's what it's all about ...I would much prefer a guy who takes 6-95 than a guy who takes 1 or 2 for 40 ...The guy who takes 6 will win you the test
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Nov 18, 2013 22:16:07 GMT
Not expecting anything from the first day, always seems to go against us!
13- Out for 215.
10/11- Siddle Hat-trick
09- Failed to take advantage of a really good pitch
06/07- Aus closed on 346/3
05- Bowled Aus out for 190 and still managed to cock it up!
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Nov 18, 2013 22:18:24 GMT
How have we faired so far in the ashes 13/14.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2013 22:21:02 GMT
How have we faired so far in the ashes 13/14. We haven't played yet Okie .....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2013 22:22:29 GMT
Not expecting anything from the first day, always seems to go against us! 13- Out for 215. 10/11- Siddle Hat-trick 09- Failed to take advantage of a really good pitch 06/07- Aus closed on 346/3 05- Bowled Aus out for 190 and still managed to cock it up! Time for a change of luck for us then mate .....
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Post by harrysburrow on Nov 18, 2013 22:25:57 GMT
These are the matches I get most twitchy about. I just hate losing to them so much, especially over there. Although, I have to say it's not quite so bad with the likes of Hughes, McGrath, Warne etc no longer involved.
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Nov 18, 2013 22:28:58 GMT
How have we faired so far in the ashes 13/14. We haven't played yet Okie ..... So we are drawing then. It's not a bad start is it.
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Post by harrysburrow on Nov 18, 2013 22:32:45 GMT
There always used to be some negative market to endure as well, usually in the very first over? Whether it was a McGrath wicket, or Harmison bowling one through 4th slip, hopefully those days are in the past?
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Post by harrysburrow on Nov 18, 2013 22:35:48 GMT
Marker, bloody predictive shit. ( or is it the booze?)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2013 22:38:32 GMT
Marker, bloody predictive shit. ( or is it the booze?) Probably the latter .....
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