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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2013 14:52:22 GMT
16 Ashes Test Matches and it currently stands England 8-3 Australia. Yet the Aussies are giving it the big 'un. I find it quite funny myself, they've won 1 match and there are 4 to go. Out of the previous 10 Tests between the two nations they'd won a very impressive 1 game.
They got used to losing with a bit of dignity come the end of our summer, primarily due to the fact that they'd gotten very used to losing against us. Yet now, they win 1 match and they've shown what utter turds they are. Speaking of turds, the Aussie press is toilet paper, actually though toilet paper serves a purpose and so it's not even up to that kind of a standard.
As for that scumbag oxygen thief David Warner, well a) who the fuck is he? b) what the fuck has he ever done? and c) he needs a right good kicking and then some.
No wonder one of the most arrogant nations in the world is cock-a-hoop though, they've won 2 matches in 11 against us. Strewth Sheila, that's reason for cheer!
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Post by harrysburrow on Nov 24, 2013 21:38:57 GMT
Reading about Bumble's comments after listening to Warner and Clarke's sledging on the stump mikes. It must have been pretty bad for him to reckon it was unacceptable? Warner really is an annoying, obnoxious little shit isn't he?
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Post by salopstick on Nov 25, 2013 8:45:22 GMT
Trott on his way home STRESS
blessing in disguise
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Nov 25, 2013 8:46:17 GMT
Trott has left tour due to stress-related illness, sounds like Trescothick type illness? Hope he sorts it out for himself and comes back stronger? a guy who averages over 45 in test cricket doesnt turn into a bad player overnight.
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Post by harrysburrow on Nov 25, 2013 8:58:00 GMT
Hope he's okay? When you read about what other people have to say about him as a person and a character, you would probably have him down as the last player in the side to suffer with this sort of problem? Looks like Warner was right, but I hope he feels a bit of a disrespectful twat now for saying what he did? Very much doubt it though? Presume Bairstow will come in?
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Post by apb1979 on Nov 25, 2013 9:24:35 GMT
I think people need to question Flowers man management over this. If he wasn't right in the head & Andy Flower knew about it he should of never played.
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Post by Gods on Nov 25, 2013 10:02:27 GMT
Trott has left tour due to stress-related illness, sounds like Trescothick type illness? Hope he sorts it out for himself and comes back stronger? a guy who averages over 45 in test cricket doesnt turn into a bad player overnight. Sent from my ST25i using proboards It does sound Trescothick'esque I agree. I seem to remember Steve Harmison was a reluctant tourer with some kind of home sickness thing. I sense these overseas test cricket tours are intense, claustrophobic affairs which can cause even the slightest of mental frailty to flair up. Hope he manages to come back strong but I fancy it will be a long and difficult road from here.
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Post by ukcstokie on Nov 25, 2013 12:30:50 GMT
Will they call someone from the Performance Squad? I'd go for Moeen Ali who would also add something to the bowling too.
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 25, 2013 13:05:21 GMT
Reading about Bumble's comments after listening to Warner and Clarke's sledging on the stump mikes. It must have been pretty bad for him to reckon it was unacceptable? Warner really is an annoying, obnoxious little shit isn't he? Oh for god's sake - sledging never hurt anyone. Our boys need to toughen up - pronto. So when Clarke said to Anderson "get ready for a broken f***ing arm" Anderson should have replied with something like "Pup - you couldn't break wind" (or something better!). He'd have to go some to beat this exchange between Mike Atherton and Ian Healey "Atherton certainly didn’t forget his manners on his first tour over in Australia. After the batsmen had luckily survived an appeal, wicket-keeper Ian Healy bluntly said to him: ‘You’re a f*****g cheat’ to which Atherton beautifully responded in typical English fashion with: ‘When in Rome, dear boy…’"More great sledges here
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Nov 25, 2013 13:24:37 GMT
Get well soon Trotty, if Trescothick's illness is anything to go by it's pretty rough.
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Post by harrysburrow on Nov 25, 2013 13:26:48 GMT
Reading about Bumble's comments after listening to Warner and Clarke's sledging on the stump mikes. It must have been pretty bad for him to reckon it was unacceptable? Warner really is an annoying, obnoxious little shit isn't he? Oh for god's sake - sledging never hurt anyone. Our boys need to toughen up - pronto. So when Clarke said to Anderson "get ready for a broken f***ing arm" Anderson should have replied with something like "Pup - you couldn't break wind" (or something better!). He'd have to go some to beat this exchange between Mike Atherton and Ian Healey "Atherton certainly didn’t forget his manners on his first tour over in Australia. After the batsmen had luckily survived an appeal, wicket-keeper Ian Healy bluntly said to him: ‘You’re a f*****g cheat’ to which Atherton beautifully responded in typical English fashion with: ‘When in Rome, dear boy…’"More great sledges here I agree mate. The sledging is one of my favourite parts of an Ashes series, just thought with Lloyd bothering to give it a mention, it must have been pretty bad? Also, the sledging examples you've attached are funny rather than nasty? Warner's still a wanker though.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Nov 25, 2013 13:44:16 GMT
Oh for god's sake - sledging never hurt anyone. Our boys need to toughen up - pronto. So when Clarke said to Anderson "get ready for a broken f***ing arm" Anderson should have replied with something like "Pup - you couldn't break wind" (or something better!). He'd have to go some to beat this exchange between Mike Atherton and Ian Healey "Atherton certainly didn’t forget his manners on his first tour over in Australia. After the batsmen had luckily survived an appeal, wicket-keeper Ian Healy bluntly said to him: ‘You’re a f*****g cheat’ to which Atherton beautifully responded in typical English fashion with: ‘When in Rome, dear boy…’"More great sledges here I agree mate. The sledging is one of my favourite parts of an Ashes series, just thought with Lloyd bothering to give it a mention, it must have been pretty bad? Also, the sledging examples you've attached are funny rather than nasty? Warner's still a wanker though. David Lloyd likes sledging, he's said so many a time on commentary. The issue is the fact that there is a fine line between sledging and abuse and we don't know the whole story, we don't hear everything on stump mic and thus can't say for sure whether what was being said was just sledging or unwarranted abuse.
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 25, 2013 16:05:44 GMT
I think people need to question Flowers man management over this. If he wasn't right in the head & Andy Flower knew about it he should of never played. I think you maybe need a better understanding of depression \ stress related illnesses. It's a condition Trott has had and managed for a period of time.
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Post by sydneypotter on Nov 27, 2013 22:35:02 GMT
There can be no excuse for a professional international cricketer to say the things that Davey Warner has said recently in the media. However, there can be a degree of mitigation. Davey has come straight from the Western Suburbs of Sydney and hasn’t yet been taught to use a mind/voice filter. He says what he thinks and stands by what he says. Like most alfa males and natural scrappers, he has a short temper and can be an asset if he’s on your side and a decidedly poor enemy if not. He’s a diamond in the rough and in the Australian vernacular is a Bogan. Like all Bogans they can be house trained. Example our current skipper Michael Clarke. He’s also a product of a rough and ready WS upbringing but is now an ambassador of the game. Not discounting the recent Andersen outburst of course. There is mitigation here too, but don’t lets dwell on that too much. Davey is also a very talented cricketer - and yes, I am an unashamed Davey Warner fan. (as a cricketer, not as a Bogan) Why wouldn’t the English team not want to target Warner. He’s a ready made explosive device that in the right English manipulative hands could be an Australian liability. I can’t see this happening in the future. If it does then I predict that the ACB would come down on him heavily. On the Clarke misdemeanor; sledging is and should always remain part of test cricket. Life was never meant to be easy and this is especially true for an Ashes Series. No one would want it any other way. Ask Steve Waugh, a master of mind disintegration techniques. The Australian team has gone through a series of losses to England that needs to be redressed. Johnson’s ‘second coming’ (thanks D.K. Lillee) is welcome and timely as is the bowling of Mr Lyons. Sure the Gabba wicket played a part too. The bouncy Queensland wicket perhaps took the England team by surprise. It shouldn’t have done given the pounding the Australian’s took during the Test three years ago. 1/517 was a mighty score and a tribute to England’s premier batsmen at the time. Now it’s on to Adelaide, drop in wicket and what ever that might bring. The wicket is reportedly showing all the signs of less bounce and being more aligned to traditional English strips. We shall see if this negates Mitch Johnson’s venom – I think it might have some effect. The Gabba test result is now confined to the records, so let’s forget all that went on there. There is no changing history. Best of luck for the 2nd test.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 22:39:56 GMT
I think people need to question Flowers man management over this. If he wasn't right in the head & Andy Flower knew about it he should of never played. I think you maybe need a better understanding of depression \ stress related illnesses. It's a condition Trott has had and managed for a period of time. I agree entirely ....unfortunately it's something I understand only to well , so Trott has my utmost sympathy although I fear a return to test cricket for him may be very hard
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Nov 27, 2013 22:45:16 GMT
Now that Trott as left through His illness, Please don't call up the Compton please.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 22:52:36 GMT
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Nov 27, 2013 22:54:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 22:55:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 22:57:07 GMT
They won't call him up of course ...?but they could do much worse ....The lads a good player
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Post by sydneypotter on Nov 27, 2013 22:59:39 GMT
Is this chap any relation to the immortal Compton?
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Nov 27, 2013 23:04:53 GMT
They won't call him up of course ...?but they could do much worse ....The lads a good player If you want to see him sitting on the balcony in his leisure suit, After being bowled out for a DUCK call the lad up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 23:12:26 GMT
They won't call him up of course ...?but they could do much worse ....The lads a good player If you want to see him sitting on the balcony in his leisure suit, After being bowled out for a DUCK call the lad up. You are quoting from a biased. Source Okie ...for some reason you dislike him ...I'm not sure why ? ..I can assure you he is better than many who have played for England in the past .....he has 2 test centuries opening for England ....can Carberry say the same ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 23:14:31 GMT
Is this chap any relation to the immortal Compton? Yes his Grandson
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Nov 27, 2013 23:15:58 GMT
If you want to see him sitting on the balcony in his leisure suit, After being bowled out for a DUCK call the lad up. You are quoting from a biased. Source Okie ...for some reason you dislike him ...I'm not sure why ? ..I can assure you he is better than many who have played for England in the past .....he has 2 test centuries opening for England ....can Carberry say the same ? Carberry cannot say that no, Not yet anyway but soon.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 23:18:05 GMT
You are quoting from a biased. Source Okie ...for some reason you dislike him ...I'm not sure why ? ..I can assure you he is better than many who have played for England in the past .....he has 2 test centuries opening for England ....can Carberry say the same ? Carberry cannot say that no, Not yet anyway but soon. Don't put your money on it ....
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Nov 27, 2013 23:26:09 GMT
Carberry cannot say that no, Not yet anyway but soon. Don't put your money on it .... He will tear the Aussies a new one, In the next test.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2013 23:28:52 GMT
Don't put your money on it .... He will tear the Aussies a new one, In the next test. I sincerely hope he does Okie .......but I'm holding my breath mate ...
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Post by ukcstokie on Nov 28, 2013 9:47:40 GMT
Given what we saw in the first test, I think the selectors could very be looking to play this side, maybe in the third test:
1 Cooke 2 Carberry 3 Bell 4 KP 5 Root 6 Prior 7 Bresnan 8 Broad 9 Swan 10 Finn 11 Anderson
Bres can help keep it tight, Finn is the extra option as the wicket taker (especially for Perth). Does reduce the batting but not by much.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 11:10:43 GMT
Given what we saw in the first test, I think the selectors could very be looking to play this side, maybe in the third test: 1 Cooke 2 Carberry 3 Bell 4 KP 5 Root 6 Prior 7 Bresnan 8 Broad 9 Swan 10 Finn 11 Anderson Bres can help keep it tight, Finn is the extra option as the wicket taker (especially for Perth). Does reduce the batting but not by much. Seven is a bit high for Bresnan I feel especially with Prior still seemingly out if sorts with the bat .....I'm in agreement with picking Finn he would always be in the team for me....he can go for a few but he does take wickets , I'm always a fan of playing five bowlers , but ideally this means having a top class all rounder , something we are lacking at the moment
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