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Post by Northy on Dec 21, 2015 17:20:51 GMT
You just hope he forgot to declare it on his tax return. EDIT: Hang on what tax return? How stupid of me. I hadn't thought of the tax return implications. If the payment was a genuine payment for services, then it would (should) have been included on a tax return. Whether or not the payment was included on a tax return is a crucial piece of evidence I would have thought. If paid from FIFA would that be a swiss or French tax liability ? |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 21, 2015 19:35:21 GMT
If it was in dollars they have jurisdiction. My point was that it may well help prove misuse of FIFA funds by Blatter and Platini’s failure to declare might be useful as anecdotal evidence because we all want to see him, actually no , both of them carted off to a federal prison in the USA. Sepp and Michel in handcuffs now that would make a great picture.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 21, 2015 19:41:30 GMT
Like Drug dealers,all the ones found guilty, should have all their assets, property money etc.seized, so they are left with nowt.
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Post by Onneravineet on Dec 22, 2015 0:48:53 GMT
I hadn't thought of the tax return implications. If the payment was a genuine payment for services, then it would (should) have been included on a tax return. Whether or not the payment was included on a tax return is a crucial piece of evidence I would have thought. If paid from FIFA would that be a swiss or French tax liability ? Both mate, unless he has permanent residency in Switzerland. He would pay a small tax in Switzerland and then his normal duties in France. |
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Post by harveyworld on Dec 22, 2015 3:10:29 GMT
There have been like bans handed out already to some officials. Tbh when it's the head of uefa and Fifa itself they should have recieved life bans. 8 years is very lenient Exactly....why only 8 years and not lifetime bans? IMO this falls way short of satisfactory justice. They are in positions of power and should be leading by example. That means being whiter than white. Its a huge amount of money to handover in any circumstance and even more so without any written agreement in place. Looks dodgy from every angle. The minimum should have been an immediate lifetime ban and another for the next life just in case they are cryogentically frozen and try and come back in a 100 years. I can see the silly buggers canvessing to get back on the committee after 8 years at this rate. |
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Post by Northy on Dec 22, 2015 8:46:08 GMT
There have been like bans handed out already to some officials. Tbh when it's the head of uefa and Fifa itself they should have recieved life bans. 8 years is very lenient Exactly....why only 8 years and not lifetime bans? IMO this falls way short of satisfactory justice. They are in positions of power and should be leading by example. That means being whiter than white. Its a huge amount of money to handover in any circumstance and even more so without any written agreement in place. Looks dodgy from every angle. The minimum should have been an immediate lifetime ban and another for the next life just in case they are cryogentically frozen and try and come back in a 100 years. I can see the silly buggers canvessing to get back on the committee after 8 years at this rate. Blatter will be dead by then, and hopefully FIFA would have changed for the better and Platini will have no support |
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Post by fca47 on Dec 22, 2015 8:57:04 GMT
I hadn't thought of the tax return implications. If the payment was a genuine payment for services, then it would (should) have been included on a tax return. Whether or not the payment was included on a tax return is a crucial piece of evidence I would have thought. If paid from FIFA would that be a swiss or French tax liability ? Depends where Platini lives, does he live in France? He wasn't actually employed by FIFA so I assume it is like a consultancy payment, there wouldn't be withholding tax in Switzerland. So it would be in whatever country Platini lives in, if France then a French tax return. |
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Post by bringmesunshine on Dec 22, 2015 8:57:30 GMT
Watching him yesterday Blatter will be dead in before the Russian World Cup.
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Post by harryburrows on Dec 22, 2015 9:02:59 GMT
Exactly....why only 8 years and not lifetime bans? IMO this falls way short of satisfactory justice. They are in positions of power and should be leading by example. That means being whiter than white. Its a huge amount of money to handover in any circumstance and even more so without any written agreement in place. Looks dodgy from every angle. The minimum should have been an immediate lifetime ban and another for the next life just in case they are cryogentically frozen and try and come back in a 100 years. I can see the silly buggers canvessing to get back on the committee after 8 years at this rate. Blatter will be dead by then, and hopefully FIFA would have changed for the better and Platini will have no support The remaining problem being all the infrastructure put in place by Blatter is still there , the delegates who still support him are still there . The ludicrous voting system that gives equal voting status to a tiny developing nation as it does to Brazil or Germany is alive and well . The leading football nations need to take control of Fifa or start an alternative governing body |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jan 7, 2016 18:53:19 GMT
Platini withdraws from FIFA presidential race Platini told The Associated Press on Thursday that he remains determined to overturn the eight-year ban he was handed by FIFA's ethics committee last month, but that the deadline for the Feb. 26 election is too short and renders his candidacy impossible.
So how about he quits Uefa now as well
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 8, 2016 0:01:23 GMT
Crazy that he even felt the need to announce it.
Can he now be interrogated about Qatar?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 8, 2016 12:10:43 GMT
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Post by bringmesunshine on Jan 8, 2016 12:17:52 GMT
"Klaus Stoehlker, he may be too upset to watch on television."
Let the heeling begin.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 8, 2016 23:01:10 GMT
He can't play subbuteo either. |
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Post by lordb on Jan 8, 2016 23:09:02 GMT
Are we are all agreed that both Russia 2018 and Qatar 2022 were bought.
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Despite that can't see either tournament being moved even if Blatter goes down.
Russia is only two years away now
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 9, 2016 0:31:43 GMT
Are we are all agreed that both Russia 2018 and Qatar 2022 were bought. ? Despite that can't see either tournament being moved even if Blatter goes down. Russia is only two years away now Russia won't be. Qatar still could be. UEFA nations need to act collectively and boycott. Initially Dyke supported Platini.Is he going explain himself? |
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Post by Northy on Jan 9, 2016 7:03:47 GMT
Are we are all agreed that both Russia 2018 and Qatar 2022 were bought. ? Despite that can't see either tournament being moved even if Blatter goes down. Russia is only two years away now Everyone since the 1994 one has been bought, Morocco have been shafted twice. I cant see any being changed now, so much money involved, only way Qatar will change is on human rights, but if the Prince from Jordan gets in, how pally are they with Qatar? |
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Post by lordb on Jan 9, 2016 8:43:08 GMT
Are we are all agreed that both Russia 2018 and Qatar 2022 were bought. ? Despite that can't see either tournament being moved even if Blatter goes down. Russia is only two years away now Everyone since the 1994 one has been bought, Morocco have been shafted twice. I cant see any being changed now, so much money involved, only way Qatar will change is on human rights, but if the Prince from Jordan gets in, how pally are they with Qatar? There has been a strong suggestion that since Havelange - so 1974 - they were all bought. Depressing stuff. If FIFA implodes maybe the (now) pretty much not corrupt IOC could run the World Cup? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2016 8:53:59 GMT
We now have to show some balls and withdraw from particpating in the next couple of world cups. I'm sure we could hold our own mini tournaments.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 9, 2016 9:55:27 GMT
We now have to show some balls and withdraw from particpating in the next couple of world cups. I'm sure we could hold our own mini tournaments. Too late to withdraw from 2018. Qatar should be boycotted but by a whole federation. Or two. |
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Post by enuntio on Jan 9, 2016 12:24:50 GMT
We now have to show some balls and withdraw from particpating in the next couple of world cups. I'm sure we could hold our own mini tournaments. Too late to withdraw from 2018. Qatar should be boycotted but by a whole federation. Or two. No it isn't |
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Post by enuntio on Jan 9, 2016 12:27:03 GMT
Are we are all agreed that both Russia 2018 and Qatar 2022 were bought. ? Despite that can't see either tournament being moved even if Blatter goes down. Russia is only two years away now Russia won't be. Qatar still could be. UEFA nations need to act collectively and boycott. Initially Dyke supported Platini.Is he going explain himself? Supporting a crook doesn't mean you knew they were crooked |
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Post by JoeinOz on Jan 9, 2016 12:27:31 GMT
Too late to withdraw from 2018. Qatar should be boycotted but by a whole federation. Or two. No it isn't The draw has been made and the wheels are turning. Getting a whole federation to agree to boycott at this stage just wouldn't happen. It certainly wouldn't be UEFA for obvious reasons. 2022 is a different matter. |
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Post by enuntio on Jan 9, 2016 12:29:38 GMT
Platini withdraws from FIFA presidential race Platini told The Associated Press on Thursday that he remains determined to overturn the eight-year ban he was handed by FIFA's ethics committee last month, but that the deadline for the Feb. 26 election is too short and renders his candidacy impossible.
So how about he quits Uefa now as well Sat here should be no need for him to quit He should be sacked |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 9, 2016 17:37:31 GMT
Platini withdraws from FIFA presidential race Platini told The Associated Press on Thursday that he remains determined to overturn the eight-year ban he was handed by FIFA's ethics committee last month, but that the deadline for the Feb. 26 election is too short and renders his candidacy impossible.
So how about he quits Uefa now as well Sat here should be no need for him to quit He should be sacked I think it's inevitable that he WILL be sacked if he loses his appeal. But UEFA are (quite rightly) allowing him his right of appeal before doing so. |
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Post by basingstokie on Jan 9, 2016 17:55:57 GMT
Are we are all agreed that both Russia 2018 and Qatar 2022 were bought. ? Despite that can't see either tournament being moved even if Blatter goes down. Russia is only two years away now Probably was, and indeed their has almost certainly been some form of 'you scratch my back' etc for many years. The difference is what was once small scale, hidden and less blatant brown envelopes full of $'s became a full blown industry lately. It was also far easier to accept when there was a reasonable football based rationale for the winner - eg Germany, Brazil and even Russia. For Qatar there was no such rationale which inevitably lead to questions about how they'd won and so the wheels came off the gravy train |
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jan 9, 2016 23:10:04 GMT
Russia won't be. Qatar still could be. UEFA nations need to act collectively and boycott. Initially Dyke supported Platini.Is he going explain himself? Supporting a crook doesn't mean you knew they were crooked Platini has not just become crooked, I doubt the FA are anyway near as bad as FIFA, in terms of corruption, but there must be reasons why they openly supported him. I see degrees of corruption going on here, turning a blind eye, or supporting the least bad option available, only condones the malpractice that's been going on, and there's no sign that it's about to be dealt with by those inside football. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 12, 2016 12:51:47 GMT
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Post by bringmesunshine on Jan 12, 2016 13:12:40 GMT
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Post by djduncanjames on Jan 13, 2016 4:07:52 GMT
This guy is as delusional as the rest of them! Painting the Blatter grandchildren as the victims in this, heard it all now.  |
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