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Post by spitthedog on Oct 28, 2015 23:53:04 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 29, 2015 10:34:42 GMT
Would the other bidders have a good case for legal action??
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 29, 2015 11:07:13 GMT
Would the other bidders have a good case for legal action?? Yes. if countries were invited to bid (and inevitably incur costs in bidding) for a tournament which had already been awarded (behind closed doors) to one particular country, then the countries incurring costs would be entitled to sue for recompense. An other side to the argument is that the staff in the organising body who allowed/encouraged the situation to arise must surely be fraudulent and corrupt and should be liable to prosecution individually on that basis. I presume that, as FIFA is based in Switzerland, the obvious place for any court cases against FIFA and its staff would be in Switzerland as I am sure offences would have been committed under Swiss law. You'd think the costs to FIFA could amount to £100 million ish if the cases went ahead and were proven. Some of the candidates for the FIFA top job might be less keen to take over the reins if the court cases proceed - maybe that is part of Blatter's agenda? |
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 29, 2015 11:13:27 GMT
It actually makes Qatar seem slightly more legitimate. They decided USA but it was Qatar because of a democratic process. The issue of what led people to vote for what in the aforementioned democratic process is the issue.
The point has to be made, by any rational judgement, observing from any perspective, the USA bid was clearly the best for 2022.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 29, 2015 11:39:53 GMT
Would the other bidders have a good case for legal action??
The Football Association was consulting its lawyers on Wednesday night following Sepp Blatter’s stunning disclosure that Fifa had decided to give the 2018 World Cup finals tournament to Russia before the vote even took place.
Dyke was sceptical about the prospect of successfully suing Fifa but refused to rule out legal action if its suspended president stood by comments made in an extraordinary interview with the Russian news agency Tass. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 29, 2015 13:18:26 GMT
What happens next?
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Post by Northy on Oct 29, 2015 14:25:43 GMT
The lawyers rack up a load of fees, possibly hundreds of thousands of pounds and bill the FA, the FA will send a strongly worded letter to FIFA saying 'don't do it again' |
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 29, 2015 14:28:05 GMT
Would the other bidders have a good case for legal action??
The Football Association was consulting its lawyers on Wednesday night following Sepp Blatter’s stunning disclosure that Fifa had decided to give the 2018 World Cup finals tournament to Russia before the vote even took place.
Dyke was sceptical about the prospect of successfully suing Fifa but refused to rule out legal action if its suspended president stood by comments made in an extraordinary interview with the Russian news agency Tass.Blatter has offered £ 15 mil for cash |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 29, 2015 15:33:16 GMT
We want our £21 million back over Russia 2018 World Cup fix, says FA chief Greg Dyke
The Football Association was consulting its lawyers on Wednesday night following Sepp Blatter’s stunning disclosure that Fifa had decided to give the 2018 World Cup finals tournament to Russia before the vote even took place.
Dyke was sceptical about the prospect of successfully suing Fifa but refused to rule out legal action if its suspended president stood by comments made in an extraordinary interview with the Russian news agency Tass. Blatter has offered £ 15 mil for cash in a gentleman's agreement with no paperwork to get in the way? |
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Post by premiershipteamfor10years on Nov 1, 2015 18:53:05 GMT
How Russia and Qatar can be awarded the World Cup after all this is bizarre. I have heard nothing in the media about this viewpoint in recent days but surely we should make a stand. Who wants the World Cup in Russia and Qatar anyway?
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Post by enuntio on Nov 1, 2015 20:48:11 GMT
So what had the USA done to be supposedly awarded a World Cup before a vote took place?
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 2, 2015 4:09:09 GMT
So what had the USA done to be supposedly awarded a World Cup before a vote took place? When they got it in 1994 they were told it was on condition they formed a substantial ongoing national competition. They 1994 World Cup was used to launch the MLS. Part of that involved a promise to give them hosting rights to another World Cup when their national comp was up running and feasible. The 2022 suggestion might well have been to uphold that promise. |
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Post by enuntio on Nov 2, 2015 11:30:47 GMT
So what had the USA done to be supposedly awarded a World Cup before a vote took place? When they got it in 1994 they were told it was on condition they formed a substantial ongoing national competition. They 1994 World Cup was used to launch the MLS. Part of that involved a promise to give them hosting rights to another World Cup when their national comp was up running and feasible. The 2022 suggestion might well have been to uphold that promise. So, if this is the case, then the only purpose of having a bidding process must be to maximise the bribes and pay-offs. There is most definitely a need for a whole new system required for awarding sporting events. Transparency and should be paramount and spending ridiculous amounts of money on presentation should be halted. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 2, 2015 11:44:18 GMT
When they got it in 1994 they were told it was on condition they formed a substantial ongoing national competition. They 1994 World Cup was used to launch the MLS. Part of that involved a promise to give them hosting rights to another World Cup when their national comp was up running and feasible. The 2022 suggestion might well have been to uphold that promise. So, if this is the case, then the only purpose of having a bidding process must be to maximise the bribes and pay-offs. There is most definitely a need for a whole new system required for awarding sporting events. Transparency and should be paramount and spending ridiculous amounts of money on presentation should be halted. For 1994 USA was more or less appointed as Brazil pretty much were for 2014. The official line is they 'encourage' nations to bid. |
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Nov 3, 2015 10:23:32 GMT
German Police raid the German FA... Beeb |
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 8, 2015 14:28:02 GMT
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Post by Clayton Wood on Nov 9, 2015 18:10:22 GMT
Head Of German FA Resigns Over FIFA Payment The head of Germany's football federation has resigned following over a payment made to FIFA.
Wolfgang Niersbach's departure follows controversy over €6.7m transferred to world football's governing body in 2005 - a year before the World Cup was held in Germany.
It has been alleged that the money was used to bribe officials to vote for the country's World Cup bid.
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 9, 2015 18:29:25 GMT
We won't get fooled again. Aye - right! |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Nov 11, 2015 13:29:39 GMT
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Post by bringmesunshine on Nov 11, 2015 13:53:43 GMT
Anyone else think this is the beginning of his “I’m too ill to stand trial” defence.
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Post by thestatusquo on Nov 11, 2015 15:24:32 GMT
Anyone else think this is the beginning of his “I’m too ill to stand trial” defence. He should stick to the insanity plea. It's more believable  |
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 12, 2015 5:56:14 GMT
Anyone else think this is the beginning of his “I’m too ill to stand trial” defence. Yes. first thing I thought. So if he can't stand trial he should just be jailed. |
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Post by harryburrows on Nov 12, 2015 6:18:18 GMT
Anyone else think this is the beginning of his “I’m too ill to stand trial” defence. Yes. first thing I thought. So if he can't stand trial he should just be jailed. he will go and live in Russia long before this happens |
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Post by bringmesunshine on Nov 12, 2015 8:30:13 GMT
Yes. first thing I thought. So if he can't stand trial he should just be jailed. he will go and live in Russia long before this happens Or Qatar |
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 18, 2015 11:49:19 GMT
BREAKING: FIFA Appeal Committee rejects appeals lodged by Sepp Blatter and Michel Platini against provisional bans
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Post by bringmesunshine on Nov 18, 2015 11:55:01 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 18, 2015 13:17:22 GMT
BREAKING: FIFA Appeal Committee rejects appeals lodged by Sepp Blatter and Michel Platini against provisional bans
As they are six month bans and the presidential election for Blatter's replacement is on February 26th, does this now mean that Platini cannot actually stand as a candidate?
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 18, 2015 13:18:15 GMT
BREAKING: FIFA Appeal Committee rejects appeals lodged by Sepp Blatter and Michel Platini against provisional bans
As they are six month bans and the presidential election for Blatter's replacement is on February 26th, does this now mean that Platini cannot actually stand as a candidate?
Heaven knows Paul. It's daft of them not to delay it three months. But when you consider the organisation we are discussing no shock. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2015 13:27:08 GMT
As they are six month bans and the presidential election for Blatter's replacement is on February 26th, does this now mean that Platini cannot actually stand as a candidate?
Heaven knows Paul. It's daft of them not to delay it three months. But when you consider the organisation we are discussing no shock. it depends. the hearings are before christmas and if he's cleared then they will carry out his "integrity check" and could still stand. all depends on how long the hearings take really |
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 18, 2015 13:27:55 GMT
Heaven knows Paul. It's daft of them not to delay it three months. But when you consider the organisation we are discussing no shock. it depends. the hearings are before christmas and if he's cleared then they will carry out his "integrity check" and could still stand. all depends on how long the hearings take really Integrity check. Ferfuxache....  |
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