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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 24, 2013 20:59:35 GMT
Will he be signed by a top six side before the window closes? Will he go to the World Cup? Was his first half performance poor? Any response? I'd be quite rightly banned if I could be honest with my response!
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Post by westpoint on Aug 24, 2013 21:01:51 GMT
I'd be quite rightly banned if I could be honest with my response! .... off you go
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Post by LDE76 on Aug 24, 2013 21:02:24 GMT
I'd be quite rightly banned if I could be honest with my response! You could just point out that not one single combination of answers to the questions posed would mean that Ryan is shit, or even overrated.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 24, 2013 21:06:01 GMT
I'd be quite rightly banned if I could be honest with my response! You could just point out that not one single combination of answers to the questions posed would mean that Ryan is shit, or even overrated. Some people don't deserve that respect.
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Post by westpoint on Aug 24, 2013 21:12:41 GMT
Would anybody like to answer the questions!?
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Post by swampmongrel on Aug 24, 2013 21:15:13 GMT
Yeah, lets forget about six straight seasons of consistent performances, and concentrate on the ropey 45 minutes he had today and in answer to your question, yes he is better than Cahill, and so am I Jagielka is a bit closer, but still not as good. Fucking amazes how desperate people are to write our players off at times. I wouldn't say written off just a mere observation of shawcross having a shocker of a first half, also it was quite an important 45 minutes as we were playing our first home game binder Hughes and under a totally different style and it shawcross showed that he hasn't quite adapted to it yetWell this is a load of shit. Shawcross made a couple of mistakes in the first half today. But those mistakes had nothing to do with his failure to 'adapt' to a different style. They were just bog standard mistakes that all centre halves will make from time to time. If we hadn't conceded that goal (e.g. if Shawcross hadn't have had a brain freeze and let it bounce, if Huth hadn't have slipped or if Bego had read it better) this thread wouldn't even exist. What a load of old shit.
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 24, 2013 21:15:36 GMT
Would anybody like to answer the questions!? You really think you're on to something don't you?
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Post by lastoftheldk on Aug 24, 2013 21:16:33 GMT
Will he be signed by a top six side before the window closes? Will he go to the World Cup? Was his first half performance poor? Any response? No, Maybe, Poor its was shite
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 24, 2013 21:21:40 GMT
Lets not beat around the bush, Ryan had probably the worst 20 minutes I've ever seen him have but to somehow allow that to detract from the rest of his time at Stoke is quite simply fucking moronic.
We'll get Leon Cort or Matthew Upson back eh?
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Aug 24, 2013 21:21:45 GMT
Hughes said that in the first half Shawcross was struggling with a slight injury he picked up during the warm-up.
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Post by westpoint on Aug 24, 2013 21:23:10 GMT
No, Maybe, Poor its was shite Cheers mate!
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Shawcross
Aug 24, 2013 21:36:19 GMT
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Post by fortressbritannia on Aug 24, 2013 21:36:19 GMT
So I make that 4 mistakes in in about 170 PL starts for us?
I still think despite a dodgey 15 mins he still outshoon Huth and got things going second half. There was always going to be a a bit of rustiness that needed to be ironed out a bit, over the course of the season he'll be a strong contender for Brazil.
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Post by bignickhowes on Aug 24, 2013 21:40:41 GMT
Nightmare, against a side who will finish in the bottom five, but he is better than Cahill, Jagielka etc.... ps he is a goalscorer though no way is shawcross better than jagielka
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Aug 24, 2013 22:08:32 GMT
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Post by fortressbritannia on Aug 24, 2013 22:08:32 GMT
Nightmare, against a side who will finish in the bottom five, but he is better than Cahill, Jagielka etc.... ps he is a goalscorer though no way is shawcross better than jagielka As a Villa fan and a non-Stoke fan how do you rate Shawcross without the red and white specs one? I'm always curious as to how non-stoke fans rate our players.
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Post by kingstokie on Aug 24, 2013 22:15:39 GMT
Would anybody like to answer the questions!? Translate: PLEASE GIVE ME ATTENTION
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Post by bignickhowes on Aug 24, 2013 22:15:49 GMT
no way is shawcross better than jagielka As a Villa fan and a non-Stoke fan how do you rate Shawcross without the red and white specs one? I'm always curious as to how non-stoke fans rate our players. I think he is a good centre back, not progressed like he should of though. That's probably to do with the way stoke played but should improve as a player under hughes
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Post by cartman123 on Aug 24, 2013 22:17:07 GMT
Nightmare, against a side who will finish in the bottom five, but he is better than Cahill, Jagielka etc.... ps he is a goalscorer though no way is shawcross better than jagielka Is this the same Jagielka who got torn apart by Scotland?
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Post by bignickhowes on Aug 24, 2013 22:21:03 GMT
no way is shawcross better than jagielka Is this the same Jagielka who got torn apart by Scotland? cahill got torn apart not jagielka and you can't judge a player off one bad game anyway
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Post by cartman123 on Aug 24, 2013 22:22:57 GMT
Is this the same Jagielka who got torn apart by Scotland? cahill got torn apart not jagielka and you can't judge a player off one bad game anywayBut that's exactly what happened to Shawcross when he made his England debut.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 24, 2013 22:23:10 GMT
Is this the same Jagielka who got torn apart by Scotland? cahill got torn apart not jagielka and you can't judge a player off one bad game anyway Try telling that to some of our fans.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 24, 2013 22:33:10 GMT
Is this the same Jagielka who got torn apart by Scotland? cahill got torn apart not jagielka and you can't judge a player off one bad game anyway I really dislike Cahill as a player but Jagielka out of the two was by far the worst in that game imo. I was shocked by how bad he was tbh because I think he's a decent defender.
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Aug 24, 2013 22:38:33 GMT
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Post by lee1982 on Aug 24, 2013 22:38:33 GMT
He had a bad game, he doesnt have many and he made up for his error, move on and stop the knicker wetting.
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Post by retired1 on Aug 24, 2013 22:44:34 GMT
Hughes said that in the first half Shawcross was struggling with a slight injury he picked up during the warm-up. I misread your statement cos I thought you said "sight injury" which would be accurate cos he never read that bounce properly.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Aug 24, 2013 23:23:26 GMT
No, Maybe, Poor its was shite Cheers mate!
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Post by swampySCFC on Aug 24, 2013 23:54:57 GMT
Shit first half and gave that piece of shit a goal but good second half capped with a goal
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 24, 2013 23:57:13 GMT
Having watched the goal again...
Some may remember that a few years back, Ryan played himself into trouble and TP went mental with him. Since then, in every situation like that Ryan has just kicked the ball out for a throw. Maybe not what people want at international standard, but safe and no fuss. Last year, he would have just knocked that out of play without even thinking. I think Hughes has told him that he doesn't want him to do that, the focus is on retaining possession in some way instead. Now he can't just automatically knock it out and it'll take a while to fix that.
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Shawcross
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Post by fortressbritannia on Aug 25, 2013 0:02:19 GMT
Having watched the goal again... Some may remember that a few years back, Ryan played himself into trouble and TP went mental with him. Since then, in every situation like that Ryan has just kicked the ball out for a throw. Maybe not what people want at international standard, but safe and no fuss. Last year, he would have just knocked that out of play without even thinking. I think Hughes has told him that he doesn't want him to do that, the focus is on retaining possession in some way instead. Now he can't just automatically knock it out and it'll take a while to fix that. Spot on MD. He should have hit row z with his clearance, he was pretty much the last man he should have played it safe as the saying goes it's better to be safe than sorry.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Aug 25, 2013 0:03:09 GMT
Dont think he can do it and he should go back to basic in those situations
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 25, 2013 0:09:25 GMT
Having watched the goal again... Some may remember that a few years back, Ryan played himself into trouble and TP went mental with him. Since then, in every situation like that Ryan has just kicked the ball out for a throw. Maybe not what people want at international standard, but safe and no fuss. Last year, he would have just knocked that out of play without even thinking. I think Hughes has told him that he doesn't want him to do that, the focus is on retaining possession in some way instead. Now he can't just automatically knock it out and it'll take a while to fix that. Spot on MD. He should have hit row z with his clearance, he was pretty much the last man he should have played it safe as the saying goes it's better to be safe than sorry. Maybe given time it'll click. It's difficult to say. There's a lot of things in the team at the minute that require patience.
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 25, 2013 0:13:54 GMT
A terrible twenty minutes.
Followed by a solid, at times inspiring performance.
Sums him up. He just keeps getting better. This season will see Ryan hit new heights. He's learning all the time and he has everything he needs to be a genuine top player.
And he's ours.
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