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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 13:40:49 GMT
Crap....Like watching time lapse football.
Adam in midfield ....Not Whelan.
Coatesy needs to splash the cash....about £30 million should do eet.
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Post by kingstokie on Aug 17, 2013 13:50:53 GMT
Adam is 1000000000000000x the player he was last season when not being forced to stick behind Crouch. Whelan was orate in a midfield 3. Adam did much more in his time. All three need to go for me. Keep Jerome for his pace late in the game and get some new strikers!
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Post by goatbulgaria on Aug 17, 2013 13:57:02 GMT
Walters crouch ethrington not good enough, kightys got to be better on the wing. Hes got to get a striker in or we are fucked
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Post by southendstokie64 on Aug 17, 2013 14:00:42 GMT
Agree Walters,Crouch and Etherington all way past their sell by date,GET RID OF THEM NOW
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Post by stokeymad on Aug 17, 2013 14:03:08 GMT
What exactly did kenwyne do wrong?
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 17, 2013 14:18:09 GMT
Walters out, yes.
Crouch out,yes.
Jones out,no
Hethers out,yes.
Whelan out, yes.
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 17, 2013 14:20:14 GMT
Crouch and ethers out for me this season we need pace and talented youth like aspas for liverpool and ffs bench donkey and rotate Adam as a starter and glen as cover IMO. Muniesa for Wilson and sort palacios or move him to Scotland!
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 17, 2013 14:22:26 GMT
Jones out? He was only on for 10 minutes and his movement left a lot of space for our more creative players.
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Post by kevkj on Aug 17, 2013 14:23:48 GMT
I actually think with two quicker wide forwards and Jones we would be decent.If we play 4-3-3 then Adam must be at the pinnacle of the midfield 3.Dissapointed with result but we created a few chances away.
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Post by stokefaninde on Aug 17, 2013 14:25:47 GMT
I just bought the new couch... Haven't even worn it in yet;)
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 17, 2013 14:42:07 GMT
Jones out? He was only on for 10 minutes and his movement left a lot of space for our more creative players. Thought his attitude was poor, even Glen Johnson beat him in the air. I was hoping Jerome was going to come on. I actually thought Crouch battled well and held the ball up despite being isolated. |
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Post by stokeymad on Aug 17, 2013 14:46:44 GMT
Jones out? He was only on for 10 minutes and his movement left a lot of space for our more creative players. Thought his attitude was poor, even Glen Johnson beat him in the air. I was hoping Jerome was going to come on. I actually thought Crouch battled well and held the ball up despite being isolated. Couldn't disagree more. I respect your posts and opinion but I thought when Jones came on we looked a lot better and that we might go on to get something out of the game. All I saw of crouch was him falling over a lot and giving the ball away. |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 17, 2013 14:48:38 GMT
Thought his attitude was poor, even Glen Johnson beat him in the air. I was hoping Jerome was going to come on. I actually thought Crouch battled well and held the ball up despite being isolated. Couldn't disagree more. I respect your posts and opinion but I thought when Jones came on we looked a lot better and that we might go on to get something out of the game. All I saw of crouch was him falling over a lot and giving the ball away. Kenwyne always divides opinion, my issue with him is that I wanted him to come on, bust a gut and beast their centre halves. He has the attributes but doesn't use them. I just think he could always do more than he does. |
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Post by jeycov on Aug 17, 2013 14:51:33 GMT
Depends on who comes in imo.
All of them would benefit from more support - the next week quite important regarding the transfer market and then our game v Palace
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Post by Northy on Aug 17, 2013 14:53:01 GMT
Jerome on for Walters would have been a good shout, every time Walters had the ball he had to check and come back as he has no pace, and then invariably lost it.
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Post by stokeymad on Aug 17, 2013 14:54:57 GMT
Couldn't disagree more. I respect your posts and opinion but I thought when Jones came on we looked a lot better and that we might go on to get something out of the game. All I saw of crouch was him falling over a lot and giving the ball away. Kenwyne always divides opinion, my issue with him is that I wanted him to come on, bust a gut and beast their centre halves. He has the attributes but doesn't use them. I just think he could always do more than he does. I agree with you there he does look like he only plays at 50%, but he looked better than crouch who was playing at 100% to me. I think we can expect more from Jones this season. I don't think mark Hughes will settle for his lazyness and he may also need to put himself in the shop window. |
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Post by boothenpotter on Aug 17, 2013 14:58:52 GMT
whelan was shocking. as was etherington. neither are good enough for us now...and that showed even in the pre-season games. Crouch can go too for me. Was a positive performance though.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 17, 2013 14:59:22 GMT
Adam is 1000000000000000x the player he was last season when not being forced to stick behind Crouch. Whelan was orate in a midfield 3. Adam did much more in his time. All three need to go for me. Keep Jerome for his pace late in the game and get some new strikers! You are joking right? What did he do different than any one else, not saying he was shit but he nothing noticeable. As for Jones, he had nothing to do so I don't know why you want him out. |
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 18, 2013 10:23:59 GMT
Jones out? He was only on for 10 minutes and his movement left a lot of space for our more creative players. Thought his attitude was poor, even Glen Johnson beat him in the air. I was hoping Jerome was going to come on. I actually thought Crouch battled well and held the ball up despite being isolated. Crouch hasn't got that excuse anymore though Jamo. The players are free to support him when we're attacking now. No one's locked in the cage. I think Crouch's poor positioning is the reason no one gets near him. Jones never seems to have that problem. On a few occasions Jones got into good positions and headed the ball down to players in and around him.. most were wayward and poorly executed but we still looked a lot more dangerous when Jones was on the pitch. Crouch is gone I'm afraid. He looks frail, slow and immobile and has done for months. |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Aug 18, 2013 10:30:24 GMT
Adam is 1000000000000000x the player he was last season when not being forced to stick behind Crouch. Whelan was orate in a midfield 3. Adam did much more in his time. All three need to go for me. Keep Jerome for his pace late in the game and get some new strikers! You are joking right? What did he do different than any one else, not saying he was shit but he nothing noticeable. As for Jones, he had nothing to do so I don't know why you want him out. Oh come on boskamp. You're seriously suggesting Adam wasn't a cut above the rest when he came on? Off the top of my head he did about 4 noticeable things. He played 2 absolutely fantastic forward balls one which he pinged diagonally 25 yards straight into Pennant's path resulting in us getting into a good position. He played our pass of the match straight into Walters path which he (as usual) fucked up horrifically by deciding to run backwards. He also nearly scored with an outrageous 50 yard strike. Finally he also took the freekick that resulted in the penalty and had it not been for the quite hopeless and hapless Walters we would have got something from the game. Not bad for a 25 minute cameo. And that's simply off the top of my head. To suggest Adam "didnt do anything different to anyone else" is a quite ridiculous comment and one which displays a clear agenda. Come on mate you're better than that. |
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Post by stokemark on Aug 18, 2013 10:31:21 GMT
Moving from a 4-4-2 to a 4-3-3 is a huge challenge for any club and requires major surgery to do properly (liverpool wrote off £25m getting rid of Downing and Carroll alone)
We seem to be trying to do it on buttons and its THAT which is cause to worry more than anything else
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Post by simon1989 on Aug 18, 2013 10:52:05 GMT
What exactly did kenwyne do wrong? missed from 6 yards out on the rebound of the peno. let me guess...it was a great save?? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 10:56:22 GMT
I'd keep Walters although not the most technically gifted I think he his underated, can you imagine a top 3 all as lazy as KJ just because they can turn it on now & again?
Fuck that
Walters in & as somebody has said on another thread, we could do worse than play him where Crouch is until we sign Diouf (Hopefully, Walters mobility and Graft will create him his own chances instead of a static Crouch relying on Quality service on a six pence.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Aug 18, 2013 10:57:11 GMT
I'd keep Walters although not the most technically gifted I think he his underated, can you imagine a top 3 all as lazy as KJ just because they can turn it on now & again? Fuck that Walters in & as somebody has said on another thread, we could do worse than play him where Crouch is until we sign Diouf (Hopefully, Walters mobility and Graft will create him his own chances instead of a static Crouch. No one is suggesting Jones is good enough either are they? Both need replacing asap. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 10:59:30 GMT
I'd keep Walters although not the most technically gifted I think he his underated, can you imagine a top 3 all as lazy as KJ just because they can turn it on now & again? Fuck that Walters in & as somebody has said on another thread, we could do worse than play him where Crouch is until we sign Diouf (Hopefully, Walters mobility and Graft will create him his own chances instead of a static Crouch. No one is suggesting Jones is good enough either are they? Both need replacing asap. Depending on how mobile and willing movers the next two inside forwards are that are purchased Id keep Jones |
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Post by sjohank on Aug 18, 2013 13:26:57 GMT
Walters crouch ethrington not good enough, kightys got to be better on the wing. Hes got to get a striker in or we are fucked Kightly better? Based on what? Last season? Point: We also need a pacy LW to replace Matty (Shea is NOT the man). Hoilett in would be perfect. Combined with Diouf, and we'll (finally) score plenty of goals. |
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Post by kevkj on Aug 18, 2013 13:33:28 GMT
Get rid of all the Ws,Wilson,Whitehead,Walters all not good enough,bunch of plodders.Then we can move forward.
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Post by scfcrmagic on Aug 18, 2013 13:35:39 GMT
Jerome on for Walters would have been a good shout, every time Walters had the ball he had to check and come back as he has no pace, and then invariably lost it. Totally agree ....I think Jerome is far better ....I'd also ship Whelan off.....Adam should start as should pennant ..IMO  |
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Post by kitkatkev on Aug 18, 2013 13:36:44 GMT
Crap....Like watching time lapse football. Adam in midfield ....Not Whelan. Coatesy needs to splash the cash....about £30 million should do eet. You going to invest the 30 mill tell you what why dont we invest 300 mill try win the prem  |
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 18, 2013 13:44:07 GMT
Michael Owen summed Kenwynne up perfectly yesterday for me when he said "When he wants to be" he's up there with the best,just a pity its not "a want to be day" very often.
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