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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 17:47:11 GMT
Crap....Like watching time lapse football. Adam in midfield ....Not Whelan. Coatesy needs to splash the cash....about £30 million should do eet. You going to invest the 30 mill tell you what why dont we invest 300 mill try win the prem Not quite sure what point you're try to make there my friend.? I'm not suggesting selling the family silver , but merely saying that it seems quite unfair if Mark Hughes isn't allowed a similar budget to that of Pulis has had in the past. Infact , it could be argued that more is needed this season to replace some of the older players....ie a more pressing need. £30 MILLION is not a fantastic amount of money these days , but if we just spent half of that on younger players from abroad then this in itself might suffice. There are some fantastic bargains out there if you're prepared to look hard enough. I think Mark Hughes will have a really tough job on his hands this season. The legacy of what Tony Pulis has left him wasn't as good as some would have you believe. We will do well just to stay up....I would put our chances at no higher than 50/50. mumf
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Post by oatcakesteve on Aug 18, 2013 17:59:41 GMT
Crap....Like watching time lapse football. Adam in midfield ....Not Whelan. Coatesy needs to splash the cash....about £30 million should do eet. Get rid of these three without bringing players in would be guaranteed relegation. These players just need to be better utilized, and Walters should never take a penalty again.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 18, 2013 18:00:53 GMT
Michael Owen summed Kenwynne up perfectly yesterday for me when he said "When he wants to be" he's up there with the best,just a pity its not "a want to be day" very often. And that in a nutshell is what really grinds my gears about him. He's a very lucky lad who has the attributes to be an excellent player but 90% of the time it appears he really doesn't give a shit (even if he actually does).
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 18, 2013 18:08:58 GMT
Michael Owen summed Kenwynne up perfectly yesterday for me when he said "When he wants to be" he's up there with the best,just a pity its not "a want to be day" very often. And that in a nutshell is what really grinds my gears about him. He's a very lucky lad who has the attributes to be an excellent player but 90% of the time it appears he really doesn't give a shit (even if he actually does). Same here mate and I always remember Hansen saying exactly the same about him when he absolutely terrorised John Terry in his early years.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 18:09:49 GMT
Crap....Like watching time lapse football. Adam in midfield ....Not Whelan. Coatesy needs to splash the cash....about £30 million should do eet. Get rid of these three without bringing players in would be guaranteed relegation. These players just need to be better utilized, and Walters should never take a penalty again. We know...even David Blunketts dog knows... As for being 'utilized' ...only for as long as it takes to replace all three. I would imagine Mark Hughes has already made the same conclusion which was why he immediately went on a scouting mission to Europe immediately after the Liverpool game. It's frightening when you see what good fit and agile players all the newly promoted teams have. Unless we get a couple of prolific strikers in , and manage to keep hold of Begovic then we are staring relegation in the face.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 18:17:00 GMT
Jerome on for Walters would have been a good shout, every time Walters had the ball he had to check and come back as he has no pace, and then invariably lost it. Totally agree ....I think Jerome is far better ....I'd also ship Whelan off.....Adam should start as should pennant ..IMO Spot on my lovely... Jerome is the only striker I'd keep to be quite honest. His pace alone justification enough. You've got to be 'in it...to win it' as they say , so that rules Walters and Peter Crouch out straight away. Mark Hughes has made a slow but steady start and we should not expect improvements to happen overnight. This guy needs time to get the right players in without being rushed. No doubt he doesn't want to be accused of panic buying giving his experience at QPR which I believe he has learned from greatly.
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Post by oatcakesteve on Aug 18, 2013 18:17:25 GMT
Get rid of these three without bringing players in would be guaranteed relegation. These players just need to be better utilized, and Walters should never take a penalty again. We know...even David Blunketts dog knows... As for being 'utilized' ...only for as long as it takes to replace all three. I would imagine Mark Hughes has already made the same conclusion which was why he immediately went on a scouting mission to Europe immediately after the Liverpool game. It's frightening when you see what good fit and agile players all the newly promoted teams have. Unless we get a couple of prolific strikers in , and manage to keep hold of Begovic then we are staring relegation in the face. I agree with you mumf, but prolific strikers and Stoke probably don't go together in reality. As for Begovic, we really need to hang on to him, make him the teams highest paid player if necessary, he's that good.
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Post by scfcrmagic on Aug 18, 2013 22:56:47 GMT
Totally agree ....I think Jerome is far better ....I'd also ship Whelan off.....Adam should start as should pennant ..IMO Spot on my lovely... Jerome is the only striker I'd keep to be quite honest. His pace alone justification enough. You've got to be 'in it...to win it' as they say , so that rules Walters and Peter Crouch out straight away. Mark Hughes has made a slow but steady start and we should not expect improvements to happen overnight. This guy needs time to get the right players in without being rushed. No doubt he doesn't want to be accused of panic buying giving his experience at QPR which I believe he has learned from greatly. Agree totally Mumfy ....I think Hughes deserves time and our support ...Change isn't always easy but we needed to change ...and the lads need to know the fans Are with em .....they're going to make mistakes ...but if they're giving 100% so should we ..
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Post by prem4stoke on Aug 18, 2013 23:24:37 GMT
Crouch was signed for his pedigree. Jones was signed for his aerial abilities from crosses. Walters for an all rounder.
Crouch IMO is past it Jones has no aerial supply Walters is still doing a job.
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Post by cartman123 on Aug 18, 2013 23:42:11 GMT
Walters still doing a job. Costing us points ah.
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Post by Old School Stokie on Aug 19, 2013 8:19:47 GMT
Yeh what's 30 million! Jerome should definitely go, chicken with no head.
Midfield should have included Adam and left Wilson at left back.
We nearly got dicked on Saturday, but then nearly and should have ended up with a point.
Lets face it did we expect any points before the game started.
No
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2013 8:27:48 GMT
Yeh what's 30 million! Jerome should definitely go, chicken with no head. Midfield should have included Adam and left Wilson at left back. We nearly got dicked on Saturday, but then nearly and should have ended up with a point. Lets face it did we expect any points before the game started. No Point 1...Jerome is by far our best striker .(Goals scored v minutes on the pitch) Point 2. Never expected Walters to score ....I never do. Point 3...Never expected to win at Liverpool but there's always a slim chance.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 19, 2013 11:09:42 GMT
You are joking right? What did he do different than any one else, not saying he was shit but he nothing noticeable. As for Jones, he had nothing to do so I don't know why you want him out. Oh come on boskamp. You're seriously suggesting Adam wasn't a cut above the rest when he came on? Off the top of my head he did about 4 noticeable things. He played 2 absolutely fantastic forward balls one which he pinged diagonally 25 yards straight into Pennant's path resulting in us getting into a good position. He played our pass of the match straight into Walters path which he (as usual) fucked up horrifically by deciding to run backwards. He also nearly scored with an outrageous 50 yard strike. Finally he also took the freekick that resulted in the penalty and had it not been for the quite hopeless and hapless Walters we would have got something from the game. Not bad for a 25 minute cameo. And that's simply off the top of my head. To suggest Adam "didnt do anything different to anyone else" is a quite ridiculous comment and one which displays a clear agenda. Come on mate you're better than that. I'm happy to say that he can play a good ball now and then and the one across field was spot on, but there is no way on gods green earth that I will ever give him credit for shooting from the half way line, he does it way to often and to me smacks of someone with a lack of intelligence to see a ball forward or retain possession, its a complete waste, and to credit him with the getting the pen seems a stretch too, the free kick was going straight to the keeper, if the defender had not been so stupid as to raise his arm it would have been a comfortable catch for the keeper. As I said, I don't think he was shit, but I don't think he stood out either.
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Post by philb on Aug 19, 2013 11:19:33 GMT
Oh come on boskamp. You're seriously suggesting Adam wasn't a cut above the rest when he came on? Off the top of my head he did about 4 noticeable things. He played 2 absolutely fantastic forward balls one which he pinged diagonally 25 yards straight into Pennant's path resulting in us getting into a good position. He played our pass of the match straight into Walters path which he (as usual) fucked up horrifically by deciding to run backwards. He also nearly scored with an outrageous 50 yard strike. Finally he also took the freekick that resulted in the penalty and had it not been for the quite hopeless and hapless Walters we would have got something from the game. Not bad for a 25 minute cameo. And that's simply off the top of my head. To suggest Adam "didnt do anything different to anyone else" is a quite ridiculous comment and one which displays a clear agenda. Come on mate you're better than that. I'm happy to say that he can play a good ball now and then and the one across field was spot on, but there is no way on gods green earth that I will ever give him credit for shooting from the half way line, he does it way to often and to me smacks of someone with a lack of intelligence to see a ball forward or retain possession, its a complete waste, and to credit him with the getting the pen seems a stretch too, the free kick was going straight to the keeper, if the defender had not been so stupid as to raise his arm it would have been a comfortable catch for the keeper. As I said, I don't think he was shit, but I don't think he stood out either. Adam HAS to start Saturday or we'll struggle to create anything just like the first 60 mins at Anfield.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Aug 19, 2013 11:23:25 GMT
Crouch was signed for his pedigree. Jones was signed for his aerial abilities from crosses. Walters for an all rounder. Crouch IMO is past it Jones has no aerial supply Walters is still doing a job. Walters still doing a job? Does that job entail creating fuck all, scoring fuck all and missing penalties on a regular basis?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 19, 2013 12:04:42 GMT
I'm happy to say that he can play a good ball now and then and the one across field was spot on, but there is no way on gods green earth that I will ever give him credit for shooting from the half way line, he does it way to often and to me smacks of someone with a lack of intelligence to see a ball forward or retain possession, its a complete waste, and to credit him with the getting the pen seems a stretch too, the free kick was going straight to the keeper, if the defender had not been so stupid as to raise his arm it would have been a comfortable catch for the keeper. As I said, I don't think he was shit, but I don't think he stood out either. Adam HAS to start Saturday or we'll struggle to create anything just like the first 60 mins at Anfield. With Adam in the team we'll effectively be playing with 10 men when we don't have the ball, personally I think N'Zonzi is more capable of creating chances than Adam.
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