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Post by Robo10 on Aug 14, 2013 12:45:37 GMT
Agree mate, I'm not the one who has played him all preseason!
Whether MH would play Kightly and Walters out wide though I dont know, its not really the answer
Until Shea is fit we dont know if Hughsey sees him as the answer either, but given his rate of breaking down we will need backup from somewhere.
Adam/Muniesa are both left footers, no pace though
Jerome always has to cut inside as very one footed
If you must drop Ethers too, then this:
------------------BEGO--------------------- (nailed on :-) )
CAMERON --- HUTH --- SHAWCROSS --- PIETERS Think thats the nailed on back 4 also
----------NZONZI --- PALACIOS-------------
-WALTERS------------------------KIGHTLY----- ----------------ADAM-----------------------
-------------CROUCH------------------------
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Aug 14, 2013 12:52:04 GMT
Walters out wide and Adam behind the striker is a waste of time though. Adam needs to play deeper and try and get on the ball in order to pick out a pass. Walters is only of any use at all playing alongside a centre forward. Given our dearth of decent and available wingers I'd look at given one winger a half each. Thus we could start with Etherington for 45 on the left and swap it once he tires and give Pennant or Kightly a run on the right.
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 14, 2013 12:54:07 GMT
Agree mate, I'm not the one who has played him all preseason! Whether MH would play Kightly and Walters out wide though I dont know, its not really the answer Until Shea is fit we dont know if Hughsey sees him as the answer either, but given his rate of breaking down we will need backup from somewhere. Adam/Muniesa are both left footers, no pace though Jerome always has to cut inside as very one footed If you must drop Ethers too, then this: ------------------BEGO--------------------- (nailed on :-) ) CAMERON --- HUTH --- SHAWCROSS --- PIETERS Think thats the nailed on back 4 also ----------NZONZI --- PALACIOS------------- -WALTERS------------------------KIGHTLY----- ----------------ADAM----------------------- -------------CROUCH------------------------ Unfortunately for us we have an extremely slow squad, no matter who or how we set up it will be a thorn in our side. Jerome has the pace.......little else.......but alas an ingredient that is crucial to open up PL defences without that we will struggle as we have for over 2 years. Needs to be fixed and quickly.
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Post by LGH87 on Aug 14, 2013 12:57:26 GMT
Bego
Cameron Ryan Huth Pieters
Wilson Nzonzi Adam
Walters Crouch Jerome
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Post by Robo10 on Aug 14, 2013 12:58:23 GMT
Walters out wide and Adam behind the striker is a waste of time though. Adam needs to play deeper and try and get on the ball in order to pick out a pass. Walters is only of any use at all playing alongside a centre forward. Given our dearth of decent and available wingers I'd look at given one winger a half each. Thus we could start with Etherington for 45 on the left and swap it once he tires and give Pennant or Kightly a run on the right. Does it work this way round for you Mike? ------------------BEGO--------------------- (nailed on :-) ) CAMERON --- HUTH --- SHAWCROSS --- PIETERS Think thats the nailed on back 4 also ----------NZONZI --- PALACIOS------------- ----------------ADAM----------------------- -WALTERS------------------------KIGHTLY----- -------------------CROUCH------------------- Less of a 4-4-1-1 and more of a genuine 4-3-3? Personnel up top changeable obv as much of a muchness.
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Post by fentonstokie1 on Aug 14, 2013 12:59:07 GMT
-------------------- Begovic
Wilson ----- Shawcross - ---- Huth ----- Pieters
Pennant ---- Palacios ---- Adam ---- Nzonzi ----- Kightley
------------------- Jerome
Bench - Sorensen, Whelan, Etherington, Jones, Wilkinson, Muniesa
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Aug 14, 2013 13:00:54 GMT
I guess so Robo, but the whole thing is a flipping fudge at the moment, whichever way you look at it. If Pulis was still manager it would be interesting to see if Whelan and Walters started given they're playing for Ireland!
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Aug 14, 2013 13:02:52 GMT
-------------------- Begovic Wilson ----- Shawcross - ---- Huth ----- Pieters ----------------------- Adam Kightley ---- Palacios ---- Nzonzi ----- Walters --------------------- Jerome Bench - Sorensen, Whelan, Pennant, Etherington, Jones, Wilkinson, Muniesa See what you did there mate. Just need to tuck Walters in closer to Jerome so the former doesn't get isolated. Can' see us starting without Crouch or Jones though.
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 14, 2013 13:04:38 GMT
-------------------- Begovic Wilson ----- Shawcross - ---- Huth ----- Pieters ----------------------- Adam Kightley ---- Palacios ---- Nzonzi ----- Walters --------------------- Jerome Bench - Sorensen, Whelan, Pennant, Etherington, Jones, Wilkinson, Muniesa See what you did there mate. Just need to tuck Walters in closer to Jerome so the former doesn't get isolated. Can' see us starting without Crouch or Jones though. You CAN or CAN'T
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Post by hollybush on Aug 14, 2013 13:33:50 GMT
Getting excited now despite the usual transfer shenanigans. Be interesting to see how we approcah the game, do we try and catch Liverpool cold by going at them or do we play conservatively and hope for a draw? My team would be as follows: Begovic Cameron Shawcross Huth Pieters N'Zonzi Adam Whelan Walters Crouch Etherington 4-3-3 but in reality a game such as this more like 4-5-1 with Walters and Etherington working the channels. Be nice to see a Premier League goal at Anfield and I've got a feeling we might sneak one but I have to be realistic with my prediction and say 2-1 Liverpool with Huth bagging a consolation from a set piece. I would go with this. There's no way we're going to attacking 4-3-3 away at Liverpool, but both Walters and Etherington can be relied on to support their fullback and we can have Pennant on the bench to come on in place of Walters later on if we want to give it a bit of a go at the death.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 13:52:01 GMT
I think...
Bego
Geoff Huth Shawcross Pieters
NZonzi Adam Whelan
Kightly Crouch Walters
I'd prefer KJ though
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Post by stokemark on Aug 14, 2013 13:55:19 GMT
I think... Bego Geoff Huth Shawcross Pieters NZonzi Adam Whelan Kightly Crouch Walters I'd prefer KJ though A white dog turd is more use than Walters on the left
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Aug 14, 2013 13:57:24 GMT
See what you did there mate. Just need to tuck Walters in closer to Jerome so the former doesn't get isolated. Can' see us starting without Crouch or Jones though. You CAN or CAN'T The apostrophe would suggest I was about to add a 't'
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Post by Batfink on Aug 14, 2013 14:00:43 GMT
I think... Bego Geoff Huth Shawcross Pieters NZonzi Adam Whelan Kightly Crouch Walters I'd prefer KJ though A white dog turd is more use than Walters on the left Racist
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Post by nott1 on Aug 14, 2013 14:26:11 GMT
I think... Bego Geoff Huth Shawcross Pieters NZonzi Adam Whelan Kightly Crouch Walters I'd prefer KJ though I thought KJ had been given his marching orders!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 14:39:44 GMT
I think... Bego Geoff Huth Shawcross Pieters NZonzi Adam Whelan Kightly Crouch Walters I'd prefer KJ though A white dog turd is more use than Walters on the left Until Shea is fit, he is our best option there. Especially in a game where Liverpool will be coming at us. And I've seen him cutting in enough times to say he will be ok there. In a 4-3-3 the wide men support the striker. In a 4-4-2 he is a poor option but in a 4-3-3 he's better than Etherington. Unless you'd have Kightly there and Walters on the right?
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Post by Gods on Aug 14, 2013 14:45:53 GMT
While Tone managed 3 0-0 draws at Anfield in the last 5 seasons our overall record there is not the best:
Wins: Played 62 Won 3 Last Stoke Goal: 1983, 30 years in the 5-1 defeat Since a Stoke win: 1959, 54 years in a 4-3 win in the old 2nd division Top flight wins: Zero
One of those records you hope can only get better but fear is about to get a little bit worse were that possible.
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Post by stokefaninde on Aug 14, 2013 17:29:54 GMT
Bego Ryan Huth Cameron Pieters
Nzonzi Palacios Whelan
Walters Crouch Jerome
Subs: Jones, Muniesa, Etherington, Butland, Shotton, Adam, Wilson
Adam on for Palacios Muniesa on for someone Jones on for Crouch
1 1 draw
Walters scores in the 25th minute. We concede right before the half.
Not sure if I have the sides right.
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Post by stokefaninde on Aug 14, 2013 17:32:42 GMT
Posession 53-47 Liverpool
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Post by Gods on Aug 14, 2013 17:33:57 GMT
Bego Ryan Huth Cameron Pieters Nzonzi Palacios Whelan Walters Crouch Jerome Subs: Jones, Muniesa, Etherington, Butland, Shotton, Adam, Wilson Adam on for Palacios Muniesa on for someone Jones on for Crouch 1 1 draw Walters scores in the 25th minute. We concede right before the half. Not sure if I have the sides right. I think you have more chance with the sides than you do with the score mate
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Aug 14, 2013 17:46:00 GMT
I think it will be........
Begovic Cameron Shawcross Huth Pieters
N'Zonzi Whelan Adam
Walters Etherington Crouch
I would pick.........
Begovic
Shotton Shawcross Huth Pieters
N'Zonzi Whelan
Pennant Adam Etherington
Jones
Subs: Butland, Wilson, Cameron, Kightly, Walters, Jerome, Crouch. Or, Begovic Shotton Shawcross Huth Pieters N'Zonzi Muniesa Pennant Fabian Hoilett DioufSubs: Butland, Wilson, Cameron, Adam, Shea, Jerome, Agudelo
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 14, 2013 18:22:22 GMT
I think... Bego Geoff Huth Shawcross Pieters NZonzi Adam Whelan Kightly Crouch Walters I'd prefer KJ though Watched the Cup game against Palace,earlier. Jones scored, linked up the play and threaded a great through ball to Jerome for his goal. I really despair when I think of another season with Crouch up top. Jones fits us better and brings out the best in Walters. Can't do the link thingy, but that match highlights these points.
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Post by sjohank on Aug 14, 2013 19:08:43 GMT
Begovic
Cameron ShawX Huth Pieters
N'Zonzi Wilson Adam
Pennant Crouch Etherington
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 22:12:41 GMT
I think we will win one nil
and we will play a 4 -5 - 1 with Crouch up top
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Post by mailman44 on Aug 14, 2013 23:33:53 GMT
Wilson, who can't play midfield, should be right back. Cameron, while good at tackling, is a woeful footballer. I've said before it's major concern that we are signing players from a league no better than the SPL/Div1. We are 2 maybe 3 QUALITY footballers from a good side. You obviously have not watched much MLS.
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Post by musik on Aug 14, 2013 23:48:14 GMT
GO ARNE! GO STOKE!
And score
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Post by stockportstokie on Aug 15, 2013 1:55:48 GMT
What I would go with Begovic Wilson Shawcross Huth Muniesa Palacios N'Zonzi Whelan Pennant Walters Jerome Cameron Pieters Shotton Adam Ethers Jones Crouch
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 15, 2013 9:07:13 GMT
What I would go with Begovic Wilson Shawcross Huth Muniesa Palacios N'Zonzi Whelan Pennant Walters Jerome Cameron Pieters Shotton Adam Ethers Jones Crouch Quite like that, Swans. At least there's some pace up front with Jerome. Not sure about him being the main man, but it's a pretty solid side, kidder!
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Post by mattythestokie on Aug 15, 2013 11:09:42 GMT
Why do people put Muniesa in midfield? He has never played there in his life, so why play him there now? Lets just put Shawcross in midfield aswell eh....
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Post by Linx on Aug 15, 2013 15:07:37 GMT
I have a slight niggle about Pieters. Stayed in Amsterdam a couple of weeks ago, and my Dutch host, who is a diehard Ajax fan and knows his football, doesn't rate him at all and reckons we've been sold a pup by PSV. Hope he's blinded by a partisan view about a rival club's player. BTW he confirmed that his name is pronounced Payters, not Peters.
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