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Post by cartman123 on Aug 12, 2013 16:20:01 GMT
I think it'll be .......................................Bego................................. GCam................Huth.................Ryan...........Pieters ...................NZonzi.......................Whelan................ .......................................Adam.................................. .............Walters.............Crouch.............Jerome........ If we could get Diouf in by Saturday I'd love us to go with a far more mobile .........................................Bego..................................... GCam.................Huth...................Ryan.............Pieters ....................Adam...........NZonzi...........Palacios.......... ........................................Walters................................... ................................KJ...................Diouf........................ Walters as a playmaker.
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Post by buddha74 on Aug 12, 2013 16:30:27 GMT
I think it'll be .......................................Bego................................. GCam................Huth.................Ryan...........Pieters ...................NZonzi.......................Whelan................ .......................................Adam.................................. .............Walters.............Crouch.............Jerome........ If we could get Diouf in by Saturday I'd love us to go with a far more mobile .........................................Bego..................................... GCam.................Huth...................Ryan.............Pieters ....................Adam...........NZonzi...........Palacios.......... ........................................Walters................................... ................................KJ...................Diouf........................ Walters as a playmaker. I think your right mate, muniesa on for pieters at some point no doubt
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Post by kitkatkev on Aug 12, 2013 16:46:19 GMT
----------------Beggo------------- Cam------Ryan-----Wilson-------Pieters
Ethers---Glen-----Nzonzi----Adam------Walters
-----------------Crouch--------------------
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2013 17:15:10 GMT
Bego Cam- ShawX - Huth - Pieters Whelan Noz Adam Jerome Crouch Walters
Then Walters and Jerome dropping off into midfield when we don't have the ball.
Although i have a feeling we may not see Huth start. He's looked extremely uncomfortable on the ball for me.
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Post by RAF on Aug 12, 2013 17:27:50 GMT
Bego Cam- ShawX - Huth - Pieters Whelan Noz Adam Jerome Crouch Walters Then Walters and Jerome dropping off into midfield when we don't have the ball. Although i have a feeling we may not see Huth start. He's looked extremely uncomfortable on the ball for me. Put that team out at Anfield and we can expect a fucking tonking! H
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Post by ohbottom on Aug 12, 2013 17:27:52 GMT
Begovic
Cameron Shawcross Huth Pieters
Nzonzi 2 from Adam / Palacios / Whelan
Etherington Crouch Walters
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Aug 13, 2013 0:05:47 GMT
Hey up naaaarrr..
Don't wish to be a naysayer because I want SCFC to go to Anfield and make a fist of it... but really... why has everyone {almost without exception} got Pieters at left back? is this based on the fact that Cartwright likes him, he's Dutch, or he's left pegged? Because he ain't ever played Prem football, and indeed hasn't played much football since he broke a ligament and then punched his own reflection. From what I've seen {and that's as much as any of us have seen I'd wager} He's defensively niamph, and when going forward he can't cross for toffee. I wish him well, but I'd put him way below Wilson, Wilko, Cameron, Shotton or even Kightly as a left back {wing, full, defensive, attacking or whatnot} at this moment.
It's all still gessums at this stage but I'm intrigued by the Pieters love in. Why first choice LB?
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 13, 2013 0:23:50 GMT
Think it will be Beggo Cam Ryan Huth Pieters Nzonzi Adam Whelan Walters Crouch Ethers
Which is a fucking wank forward line
a better balanced lineup would be
Beggo Shotton Ryan Huth Pieters Nzonzi Adam Muniesta Kightly KJ Jerome
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 13, 2013 0:26:06 GMT
The personnel isn't as important as the approach
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 13, 2013 0:31:45 GMT
Hey up naaaarrr.. Don't wish to be a naysayer because I want SCFC to go to Anfield and make a fist of it... but really... why has everyone {almost without exception} got Pieters at left back? is this based on the fact that Cartwright likes him, he's Dutch, or he's left pegged? Because he ain't ever played Prem football, and indeed hasn't played much football since he broke a ligament and then punched his own reflection. From what I've seen {and that's as much as any of us have seen I'd wager} He's defensively niamph, and when going forward he can't cross for toffee. I wish him well, but I'd put him way below Wilson, Wilko, Cameron, Shotton or even Kightly as a left back {wing, full, defensive, attacking or whatnot} at this moment. It's all still gessums at this stage but I'm intrigued by the Pieters love in. Why first choice LB? He clearly looks like first choice, hes been played there a lot in the friendlies where as Wilson hasn't, I suppose it could be a toss up between him and Muniesta but I think Hughes will go for experience over youth (not that Pieters is old), his crossing was a bit hit and miss but that's not his total contribution to the team so I don't see that as a massive problem.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Aug 13, 2013 0:48:15 GMT
Hey up naaaarrr.. Don't wish to be a naysayer because I want SCFC to go to Anfield and make a fist of it... but really... why has everyone {almost without exception} got Pieters at left back? is this based on the fact that Cartwright likes him, he's Dutch, or he's left pegged? Because he ain't ever played Prem football, and indeed hasn't played much football since he broke a ligament and then punched his own reflection. From what I've seen {and that's as much as any of us have seen I'd wager} He's defensively niamph, and when going forward he can't cross for toffee. I wish him well, but I'd put him way below Wilson, Wilko, Cameron, Shotton or even Kightly as a left back {wing, full, defensive, attacking or whatnot} at this moment. It's all still gessums at this stage but I'm intrigued by the Pieters love in. Why first choice LB? He clearly looks like first choice, hes been played there a lot in the friendlies where as Wilson hasn't, I suppose it could be a toss up between him and Muniesta but I think Hughes will go for experience over youth (not that Pieters is old), his crossing was a bit hit and miss but that's not his total contribution to the team so I don't see that as a massive problem. Oh yes, I'd forgot about whatshisname? the Barca kiddie. Not convinced by Pieters, nor your justification for his inclusion in the starting XI. Him and Ethers on the left and the Scousers could drive a stolen Beamer down our sinister channel. Just seems to me like everyone has breathed a collective 'we've bought a Left Back' sigh of relief. Unjustified so far. I'd be happier bringing him on rather than starting him to fail.
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Post by musik on Aug 13, 2013 1:03:52 GMT
----------------- Begovic ----------------- Cameron - Shawcross - Huth - Pieters
Pennant - N'Zonzi - Adam - Etherington
----------- Crouch - Diouf -------------
Subs: Sörensen, Muniesa, Whelan, Wilson, Walters, Defoe, Jones
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Aug 13, 2013 1:37:13 GMT
In my misty eyed romantic version of noggerball...
Begovic was touted as Reina's replacement, Marc Wilson had Downing and Gerrard in his pocket, Adam, Crouch and Pennant may have something to prove. {Isn't Ethers or Jonny an Everton fan too? no mind}
my team would be, as a 433.... and 451 or 55 when under attack:
------------Begovic-----------
---Shotton - Huth - Shawcross - Wilson---
-------Cameron---------N'Zonzi----------- ----------------Adam---------------------- ----Pennant - Crouch - Kightly----------
Bench from: Pieters Jones Jerome Walters Whelan Ethers Wilko Muniesa Cuvelier Sorro I'm afraid Palacios doesn't feature in my plans.
... but I reckon the Sparkster will play Pieters and Ethers instead of Wilson and Kightly, and perhaps Whelan instead of Cameron... and he may not favour Shotton... Don't ask me, I don't know why?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 10:45:41 GMT
Getting excited now despite the usual transfer shenanigans. Be interesting to see how we approcah the game, do we try and catch Liverpool cold by going at them or do we play conservatively and hope for a draw? My team would be as follows:
Begovic
Cameron Shawcross Huth Pieters
N'Zonzi Adam Whelan
Walters Crouch Etherington
4-3-3 but in reality a game such as this more like 4-5-1 with Walters and Etherington working the channels. Be nice to see a Premier League goal at Anfield and I've got a feeling we might sneak one but I have to be realistic with my prediction and say 2-1 Liverpool with Huth bagging a consolation from a set piece.
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Post by stokemark on Aug 14, 2013 11:15:26 GMT
Getting excited now despite the usual transfer shenanigans. Be interesting to see how we approcah the game, do we try and catch Liverpool cold by going at them or do we play conservatively and hope for a draw? My team would be as follows: Begovic Cameron Shawcross Huth Pieters N'Zonzi Adam Whelan Walters Crouch Etherington 4-3-3 but in reality a game such as this more like 4-5-1 with Walters and Etherington working the channels. Be nice to see a Premier League goal at Anfield and I've got a feeling we might sneak one but I have to be realistic with my prediction and say 2-1 Liverpool with Huth bagging a consolation from a set piece. I simply fail to see the valuee of Walters in any formation other than 'in the hole' and despair that we are starting a new season with him playing 'wide'. With Etheringtons complete lack of pace and Crouch being slower than a snail we will not score a goal for the forseeable future.
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Post by Robo10 on Aug 14, 2013 12:24:06 GMT
Now in the past few years, God bless him, you could probably pick TPs team and formation ahead of any game home and away
Be a bit more interesting this year - what do you think?
Mine below based on what I have seen
------------------BEGO--------------------- (nailed on :-) )
CAMERON --- HUTH --- SHAWCROSS --- PIETERS Think thats the nailed on back 4 also
----------NZONZI --- PALACIOS-------------
-KIGHTLY------------------------ETHERS----- ----------------ADAM-----------------------
-------------CROUCH------------------------
Kightly over Walters, although wouldnt be a major surprise if Walters started but MH must have been alarmed by his shit finish and all round play on Sat - we might only get one good chance and you can miss from 5 yards.
Ethers will keep on starting until replaced or Shea is fit
The midfield 3 (with Adam attacking behind the striker) seems to be the plan, looked OK on Sat if a bit slow in build up, then again it was a pedestrian game against slow Italians
Thnk he will stick with Crouch over Jones
Subs:
Jerome Walters Jones Sorro Shotton/Wilko Muniesa Whelan
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Post by Robo10 on Aug 14, 2013 12:25:21 GMT
Yes I've dropped Pennant, didnt look up to much on Sat and prob why he didnt even get a game in the end for Wolves. Had his better days.
If you must pick him, sub at best, poss for one of the forwards?
Kightly will come good this year!
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Aug 14, 2013 12:27:59 GMT
Now in the past few years, God bless him, you could probably pick TPs team and formation ahead of any game home and away Be a bit more interesting this year - what do you think? Mine below based on what I have seen ------------------BEGO--------------------- (nailed on :-) ) CAMERON --- HUTH --- SHAWCROSS --- PIETERS Think thats the nailed on back 4 also ----------NZONZI --- PALACIOS------------- -KIGHTLY------------------------ETHERS----- ----------------ADAM----------------------- -------------CROUCH------------------------ Kightly over Walters, although wouldnt be a major surprise if Walters started but MH must have been alarmed by his shit finish and all round play on Sat - we might only get one good chance and you can miss from 5 yards. Ethers will keep on starting until replaced or Shea is fit The midfield 3 (with Adam attacking behind the striker) seems to be the plan, looked OK on Sat if a bit slow in build up, then again it was a pedestrian game against slow Italians Thnk he will stick with Crouch over Jones Subs: Jerome Walters Jones Sorro Shotton/Wilko Muniesa Whelan Etherington? Lets just get this straight. Etherington is fucking woeful these days and has been for a good 2 years. He shouldn't be anywhere near a premier league squad let alone a starting xi and the very fact some fans want him to start is telling of the hapless situation we find ourselves in. What makes your line up worse is the fact you've left one of our only creative players out the squad in Pennant.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Aug 14, 2013 12:28:33 GMT
Yes I've dropped Pennant, didnt look up to much on Sat and prob why he didnt even get a game in the end for Wolves. Had his better days. If you must pick him, sub at best, poss for one of the forwards? Kightly will come good this year! As opposed to Etherington who has been nothing short of shocking for 2 years?
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 14, 2013 12:29:53 GMT
Beggo
Shotton Ryan Huth Pieters
Nzonzi Muniesta Adam
Kightly Walters Jerome
Would be mine
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Post by riponstokie on Aug 14, 2013 12:30:16 GMT
My team would be: Bego Gcam Ryan huth pieters Whelan n'zonzi Walters Adam ethers Crouch
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Post by Han Solo on Aug 14, 2013 12:31:04 GMT
With no new additions I'd go back to 442. I'd love 433 I just don't think currently we have the attacking players for it to work
So
...........................................Bego........................................
Wilson................Huth........................Ryan..............Pieters
Pennant..............NZonzi..................Whelan..............Matty
.................................KJ...................Walters.......................
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Aug 14, 2013 12:31:12 GMT
Beggo Shotton Ryan Huth Pieters Nzonzi Muniesta Adam Kightly Walters Jerome Would be mine Change Walters for Pennant and stick Jerome up top and i'd go with that too.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Aug 14, 2013 12:32:31 GMT
With no new additions I'd go back to 442. I'd love 433 I just don't think currently we have the attacking players for it to work So ...........................................Bego........................................ Wilson................Huth........................Ryan..............Pieters Pennant..............NZonzi..................Whelan..............Matty .................................KJ...................Walters....................... Crikey I thought Robo's line up was depressing. This one is even worse! Whelan? Really?
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Post by riponstokie on Aug 14, 2013 12:33:41 GMT
----------------Beggo------------- Cam------Ryan-----Wilson-------Pieters Ethers---Glen-----Nzonzi----Adam------Walters -----------------Crouch--------------------
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Post by riponstokie on Aug 14, 2013 12:34:10 GMT
----------------Beggo------------- Cam------Ryan-----Wilson-------Pieters Ethers---Glen-----Nzonzi----Adam------Walters -----------------Crouch-------------------- Why no huth?
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Post by Han Solo on Aug 14, 2013 12:35:18 GMT
With no new additions I'd go back to 442. I'd love 433 I just don't think currently we have the attacking players for it to work So ...........................................Bego........................................ Wilson................Huth........................Ryan..............Pieters Pennant..............NZonzi..................Whelan..............Matty .................................KJ...................Walters....................... Crikey I thought Robo's line up was depressing. This one is even worse! Whelan? Really? I prefer Palacios and Adam but I can't see them working in a 2 man midfield only a 3
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Post by Robo10 on Aug 14, 2013 12:36:38 GMT
Yes I've dropped Pennant, didnt look up to much on Sat and prob why he didnt even get a game in the end for Wolves. Had his better days. If you must pick him, sub at best, poss for one of the forwards? Kightly will come good this year! As opposed to Etherington who has been nothing short of shocking for 2 years? Did it alarm you so much you had to post it twice?? :-) I agree Ethers has been terrible for a long time, but he is our only left footed winger available and has played pretty much all preseason, so is pretty much a deffo to start?? The last creative thing Pennant did probably involved his girlfriends marvelous tits and some whipped cream (what an image!), as he hasnt done anything of note in the past 18 months for Stoke or Wolves to warrant the jizzfest over him - another who's time has been and gone alas. Both JP and Ethers were brilliant in the golden run we had in 2010/11 when it all came together, neither now is really good enough to yield such worship. JP did nothing on Saturday bar run in circles - no decent crosses, couldnt beat an average Italian reserve fullback, I must have missed all the creativity.
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 14, 2013 12:41:00 GMT
As opposed to Etherington who has been nothing short of shocking for 2 years? Did it alarm you so much you had to post it twice?? :-) I agree Ethers has been terrible for a long time, but he is our only left footed winger available and has played pretty much all preseason, so is pretty much a deffo to start?? The last creative thing Pennant did probably involved his girlfriends marvelous tits and some whipped cream (what an image!), as he hasnt done anything of note in the past 18 months for Stoke or Wolves to warrant the jizzfest over him - another who's time has been and gone alas. Both JP and Ethers were brilliant in the golden run we had in 2010/11 when it all came together, neither now is really good enough to yield such worship. JP did nothing on Saturday bar run in circles - no decent crosses, couldnt beat an average Italian reserve fullback, I must have missed all the creativity. But you can't keep playing a woefully gutless player (Ethers) simply coz he is left footed its like playing with ten men........2011 is a distant memory.......a nice one but not to be used for a selection criteria.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Aug 14, 2013 12:43:50 GMT
Did it alarm you so much you had to post it twice?? :-) I agree Ethers has been terrible for a long time, but he is our only left footed winger available and has played pretty much all preseason, so is pretty much a deffo to start?? The last creative thing Pennant did probably involved his girlfriends marvelous tits and some whipped cream (what an image!), as he hasnt done anything of note in the past 18 months for Stoke or Wolves to warrant the jizzfest over him - another who's time has been and gone alas. Both JP and Ethers were brilliant in the golden run we had in 2010/11 when it all came together, neither now is really good enough to yield such worship. JP did nothing on Saturday bar run in circles - no decent crosses, couldnt beat an average Italian reserve fullback, I must have missed all the creativity. But you can't keep playing a woefully gutless player (Ethers) simply coz he is left footed its like playing with ten men........2011 is a distant memory.......a nice one but not to be used for a selection criteria. This. At least Pennant gets involved and his quality on set pieces is as good as anyone's in the league. He's comfortable with the ball at his feet. Etherington is terrified of the thing these days.
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