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Post by sydneypotter on Aug 21, 2013 20:52:49 GMT
Unfortunately Katich and the skipper don't get along too well together, David Hussey is seen as yesterday's man and White a one day player. Personally I think that Clarke should not be precious and agree that White has always had the skills to match it at Test level. David Hussey is perhaps unfortunate to have a brother that shaded his every career move.
The English wickets seem (no pun intended) to find weaknesses in the current Aus team, and then we witness a performance, like Watson's, and it temporarily provides direction. False hope is not the platform for the team.
Boof will need to get to grips with both technique and attitude before the Aus series. I've seen what he can do with Shield sides and his record is impressive. He now needs to transfer that approach to the test side. So little time and a shallow talent pool will challenge his skills and his patience.
On to the second day with renewed hope. (Even if Davey let down the side, I'm still optimistic about landing a good result)
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 21, 2013 21:09:50 GMT
I don't get the dropping of Bairstow either. I don't for one second thing he's good enough but I don't think he's been helped by the selectors who have give him no cricket in preparation for it. He deserved one more chance imo. And then to see his place go to someone who has been nothing but shit in an England shirt is just bizarre. The selectors have got things completely wrong in this Test ......I don't much rate Bresnan , but even he looks more dangerous and liable to take wickets than Woakes , he looks nothing more than a fourth seamer....Kerrigan could turn out to be a one test wonder in my opinion Two left field selection from England who are normally very consistent on selection, I can only think they wanted a look at Kerrigan in a test in case they drop Monty from the return and as someone said on the radio maybe Bresnan's injury is worse than thought and he is a doubt for the return series. Of course it could just be a ploy to make sure LBWatson keeps his place, either way had a cheeky punt on England at 11/2 now, Australia's 307-4 could easily become 350 all out and I see nothing to fear in the pitch or aussie bowling
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2013 21:59:03 GMT
The selectors have got things completely wrong in this Test ......I don't much rate Bresnan , but even he looks more dangerous and liable to take wickets than Woakes , he looks nothing more than a fourth seamer....Kerrigan could turn out to be a one test wonder in my opinion Two left field selection from England who are normally very consistent on selection, I can only think they wanted a look at Kerrigan in a test in case they drop Monty from the return and as someone said on the radio maybe Bresnan's injury is worse than thought and he is a doubt for the return series. Of course it could just be a ploy to make sure LBWatson keeps his place, either way had a cheeky punt on England at 11/2 now, Australia's 307-4 could easily become 350 all out and I see nothing to fear in the pitch or aussie bowling There is a rumour that Bresnan has suffered stress fractures of the lower vertabrae's ......if that is the case he almost certainly will not be fit for Australia . They are unlikely to play two spinners out there , if Monty isn't picked , they could probably go with Treadwell as back up for Swann, I don't think Kerrigan will be considered
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 21, 2013 22:23:41 GMT
Two left field selection from England who are normally very consistent on selection, I can only think they wanted a look at Kerrigan in a test in case they drop Monty from the return and as someone said on the radio maybe Bresnan's injury is worse than thought and he is a doubt for the return series. Of course it could just be a ploy to make sure LBWatson keeps his place, either way had a cheeky punt on England at 11/2 now, Australia's 307-4 could easily become 350 all out and I see nothing to fear in the pitch or aussie bowling There is a rumour that Bresnan has suffered stress fractures of the lower vertabrae's ......if that is the case he almost certainly will not be fit for Australia . They are unlikely to play two spinners out there , if Monty isn't picked , they could probably go with Treadwell as back up for Swann, I don't think Kerrigan will be considered They'll take two spinners out in the main party and another couple with the Lions, I agree very unlikely to play two spinners although they always say it's a possibility at the SCG. They probably decided it's better to look at Kerrigan now in case Swann's injury flares up again and Montys head isn't sorted. Just don't see Tredwell as a test cricketer as well as he has done in ODI's so if it's not Kerrigan maybe Dockrell from Somerset if he is qualified for England yet.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2013 22:36:32 GMT
There is a rumour that Bresnan has suffered stress fractures of the lower vertabrae's ......if that is the case he almost certainly will not be fit for Australia . They are unlikely to play two spinners out there , if Monty isn't picked , they could probably go with Treadwell as back up for Swann, I don't think Kerrigan will be considered They'll take two spinners out in the main party and another couple with the Lions, I agree very unlikely to play two spinners although they always say it's a possibility at the SCG. They probably decided it's better to look at Kerrigan now in case Swann's injury flares up again and Montys head isn't sorted. Just don't see Tredwell as a test cricketer as well as he has done in ODI's so if it's not Kerrigan maybe Dockrell from Somerset if he is qualified for England yet. I agree with your view about Treadwell ....he just doesn't spin it enough for me , he is happy to just put it on the spot ....Monty needs to sort himself out .
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Post by sydneypotter on Aug 21, 2013 22:59:26 GMT
Did I hear correctly that Monty has been signed by Essex after getting the sack from Sussex?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2013 23:46:13 GMT
Did I hear correctly that Monty has been signed by Essex after getting the sack from Sussex? On loan until the end of the season ....Sussex allowed him to sign for a second division county for the remainder of this season ...hopefully a permanent deal somewhere will be arranged before then ...he needs to go to Australia wiith England , he can't do that unless he is affiliated to a county
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Post by sydneypotter on Aug 22, 2013 10:12:51 GMT
A gentle use of language and the use of semantics doesn't change the position. Monty has been asked to leave the club.
I'm not aware of the divisional nature of the current county cricket model so please forgive the question. If Essex are playing the game as part of a second tier does that mean that none of their players are qualified to play for the National side?
For the sake of the series I for one do hope that he makes the squad. He is admired greatly at the SCG.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 10:53:38 GMT
A gentle use of language and the use of semantics doesn't change the position. Monty has been asked to leave the club. I'm not aware of the divisional nature of the current county cricket model so please forgive the question. If Essex are playing the game as part of a second tier does that mean that none of their players are qualified to play for the National side? For the sake of the series I for one do hope that he makes the squad. He is admired greatly at the SCG. Oh he has definately been sacked , yes second division players can play for England , its just that Sussex stipulated that he had to go to a second division county , presumably so as not to have any influence on games that affected Sussex in the first division , I hope he gets selected he is still a fine spin bowler who if it hadn't been for Swann reappearing would be close to 300 Test wickets by now
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Post by sydneypotter on Aug 22, 2013 11:28:45 GMT
Thanks for clearing up the question.
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Post by salopstick on Aug 22, 2013 12:32:11 GMT
Now there is rain and they have lost a morning maybe brave captaincy is needed to force a result
Declare straight away and have confidence in the bowlers
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 22, 2013 13:26:02 GMT
Now there is rain and they have lost a morning maybe brave captaincy is needed to force a result Declare straight away and have confidence in the bowlers Faith in the Aussie bowlers - there's brave and then there's suicidal !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 13:47:25 GMT
Now there is rain and they have lost a morning maybe brave captaincy is needed to force a result Declare straight away and have confidence in the bowlers They will be able to make much of the lost time up mate , provided it doesn't rain on the the following days
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 17:40:20 GMT
Where have all the cricket supporters gone to during this Test ?
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Post by salopstick on Aug 22, 2013 18:10:15 GMT
Busy only just sat down
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 18:18:49 GMT
Where have all the cricket supporters gone to during this Test ? Missed it all today Bispham,I'm in India with work,and as you probably know they onna much for cricket over here
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 21:17:07 GMT
Where have all the cricket supporters gone to during this Test ? Missed it all today Bispham,I'm in India with work,and as you probably know they onna much for cricket over here Really ? Hope its not all work and no play mate ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 0:04:44 GMT
Where have all the cricket supporters gone to during this Test ? Another busy fan here with work I had tms on though, we need to bat well now...I have a feeling we may have a big innings from root
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 0:46:13 GMT
Missed it all today Bispham,I'm in India with work,and as you probably know they onna much for cricket over here Really ? Hope its not all work and no play mate ? It was mostly work with a bit of play thrown in,until I found out what Delhi belly was all about Never been so violently ill for 24 hours with stuff that I can't describe coming out of both ends On my way home in the early hours of Saturday morning and barring any delays should be back for a jet lagged visit to the Brit and then a catch up on the cricket!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 10:12:02 GMT
Where have all the cricket supporters gone to during this Test ? Another busy fan here with work I had tms on though, we need to bat well now...I have a feeling we may have a big innings from root Big innings from two batsmen are needed .....No reason why it shouldn't happen , it's a good pitch to bat on , good weather for today
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 10:16:06 GMT
Really ? Hope its not all work and no play mate ? It was mostly work with a bit of play thrown in,until I found out what Delhi belly was all about Never been so violently ill for 24 hours with stuff that I can't describe coming out of both ends On my way home in the early hours of Saturday morning and barring any delays should be back for a jet lagged visit to the Brit and then a catch up on the cricket! I believe that Delhi Belly is dreadful .....in years past some touring cricket teams used to take their own tinned food with them as a precaution ,but usually some of the players succumb to it at some point .....hope you feel better for for your flight home mate , nothing worse than flying when you are ill
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Post by fortressbritannia on Aug 23, 2013 10:21:08 GMT
I still find annoying as to why Tremlett wasn't picked and to rub salt into the wounds he took a five-for yesterday at Durham.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 10:24:51 GMT
I still find annoying as to why Tremlett wasn't picked and to rub salt into the wounds he took a five-for yesterday at Durham. I think you can guarantee that the selectors know they have dropped a brick here .....at least you would think so
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Post by fortressbritannia on Aug 23, 2013 10:36:22 GMT
I still find annoying as to why Tremlett wasn't picked and to rub salt into the wounds he took a five-for yesterday at Durham. I think you can guarantee that the selectors know they have dropped a brick here .....at least you would think so You would hope so wouldn't you. I still can't see the thought process that went on to leave him out though.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 23, 2013 11:54:07 GMT
First Test I've not seen at least the opening 2 days of, bloody work!
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 23, 2013 11:57:32 GMT
Solid stuff, Joe Root 50.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 23, 2013 12:03:40 GMT
In all honesty, I think Root's been unlucky in this series, he's been on the receiving end of some absolute snorters. He's clearly a fantastic batsman just gets stuck in a rut for the opening 75 deliveries
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 12:49:13 GMT
Solid stuff, Joe Root 50. He's playing well
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 12:51:06 GMT
In all honesty, I think Root's been unlucky in this series, he's been on the receiving end of some absolute snorters. He's clearly a fantastic batsman just gets stuck in a rut for the opening 75 deliveries It's still easy to be inclined to expect too much from him yet.....he is learning his trade still .....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 12:51:49 GMT
I think you can guarantee that the selectors know they have dropped a brick here .....at least you would think so You would hope so wouldn't you. I still can't see the thought process that went on to leave him out though. Neither can I mate
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