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Post by redsaturday on Aug 14, 2013 8:01:36 GMT
Monty Panesar is facing the sack from Sussex following his drunken incident in Brighton last week , he is currently on a final warning after several other disciplinary misdemeanours this season including some on field occurrences ...this would affect his selection for the forthcoming Ashes tour to Australia as England do not select players who are not affiliated to a first class County ....GET IT SORTED MONTY ! He sounds like a bit of a character. Missed nearly all the last test. Stupid honeymoon selfish woman.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 9:01:51 GMT
Monty Panesar is facing the sack from Sussex following his drunken incident in Brighton last week , he is currently on a final warning after several other disciplinary misdemeanours this season including some on field occurrences ...this would affect his selection for the forthcoming Ashes tour to Australia as England do not select players who are not affiliated to a first class County ....GET IT SORTED MONTY ! He sounds like a bit of a character. Missed nearly all the last test. Stupid honeymoon selfish woman. Careful mate ! Be sure to start off on the right foot .....sport has priority over everything else ....make it clear to her !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 9:40:41 GMT
What's Panesar playing at? Would never have guessed for one second he was capable of this kind of idiotic behaviour always struck me as a quiet unassuming bloke, maybe it's the frustration of not getting a regular gig for England that's sent him off the rails. You do have to feel sorry for him as if he was bowling in another era he'd have triple the amount of England appearances by now.
Looks like it could be Tredwell as 2nd spinner instead, in fairness he's an underrated cricketer and probably deserves to go on a high profile tour such as The Ashes he's been a model pro............
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Post by harrysburrow on Aug 14, 2013 10:09:21 GMT
You have to be an athlete to play Test cricket these days. Monty is a class bowler, but when it comes to batting and fielding, you may as well give me mum a go instead?
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 14, 2013 10:20:10 GMT
What's Panesar playing at? Would never have guessed for one second he was capable of this kind of idiotic behaviour always struck me as a quiet unassuming bloke, maybe it's the frustration of not getting a regular gig for England that's sent him off the rails. You do have to feel sorry for him as if he was bowling in another era he'd have triple the amount of England appearances by now. Looks like it could be Tredwell as 2nd spinner instead, in fairness he's an underrated cricketer and probably deserves to go on a high profile tour such as The Ashes he's been a model pro............ Tredwell is marked down as a one day player for England it will be Kerrigan or Briggs if Monty doesn't get picked although I think he will be, they'll have an A team / lions squad out there anyway so not the big deal it once was.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 10:39:22 GMT
What's Panesar playing at? Would never have guessed for one second he was capable of this kind of idiotic behaviour always struck me as a quiet unassuming bloke, maybe it's the frustration of not getting a regular gig for England that's sent him off the rails. You do have to feel sorry for him as if he was bowling in another era he'd have triple the amount of England appearances by now. Looks like it could be Tredwell as 2nd spinner instead, in fairness he's an underrated cricketer and probably deserves to go on a high profile tour such as The Ashes he's been a model pro............ Tredwell is marked down as a one day player for England it will be Kerrigan or Briggs if Monty doesn't get picked although I think he will be, they'll have an A team / lions squad out there anyway so not the big deal it once was. I'd like to see Adil Rashid given a chance as well even if it's a lower profile series against the Windies or Bangladesh. His bowling hasn't come on as much as it should have but he's a cracking bat and could potentially be a no. 6 and 2nd spinner.............
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 14:28:22 GMT
You have to be an athlete to play Test cricket these days. Monty is a class bowler, but when it comes to batting and fielding, you may as well give me mum a go instead? I agree mate and its harder to hide people in the field these days .....it's such a shame as he's a very good bowler ....perhaps you just have to accept his shortcomings and pick him anyway....I would and accept that the wickets he will take will outweigh the odd drop catch and four through his Legs ....forget his batting although there have been worse
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 14:32:09 GMT
Tredwell is marked down as a one day player for England it will be Kerrigan or Briggs if Monty doesn't get picked although I think he will be, they'll have an A team / lions squad out there anyway so not the big deal it once was. I'd like to see Adil Rashid given a chance as well even if it's a lower profile series against the Windies or Bangladesh. His bowling hasn't come on as much as it should have but he's a cracking bat and could potentially be a no. 6 and 2nd spinner............. A good call mate , a good bat , but as you say his bowling hasn't developed in the way that was hoped for .....we just don't do leggies over here do we ? Ian Salisbury never really cut the corn....and the last before him as I remember was Robin Hobbs ......that was a long time ago !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 14:34:29 GMT
What's Panesar playing at? Would never have guessed for one second he was capable of this kind of idiotic behaviour always struck me as a quiet unassuming bloke, maybe it's the frustration of not getting a regular gig for England that's sent him off the rails. You do have to feel sorry for him as if he was bowling in another era he'd have triple the amount of England appearances by now. Looks like it could be Tredwell as 2nd spinner instead, in fairness he's an underrated cricketer and probably deserves to go on a high profile tour such as The Ashes he's been a model pro............ Tredwell is marked down as a one day player for England it will be Kerrigan or Briggs if Monty doesn't get picked although I think he will be, they'll have an A team / lions squad out there anyway so not the big deal it once was. I'm sure that if England want to select Monty , they will ensure that he gets fixed up,in some way with a county ....they did it for Pietersen with Surrey
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 14, 2013 16:50:42 GMT
Tredwell is marked down as a one day player for England it will be Kerrigan or Briggs if Monty doesn't get picked although I think he will be, they'll have an A team / lions squad out there anyway so not the big deal it once was. I'd like to see Adil Rashid given a chance as well even if it's a lower profile series against the Windies or Bangladesh. His bowling hasn't come on as much as it should have but he's a cracking bat and could potentially be a no. 6 and 2nd spinner............. He looked to have real potential but doesn't seem to have come on and for some reason doesn't seem to be one the powers that be fancy. I think they have already earmarked Stokes from Durham as one to try and get into the team over the next couple of years to give an extra bowling option , bowls quick and a decent enough batsman to play at 6 eventually.
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 14, 2013 16:53:10 GMT
Tredwell is marked down as a one day player for England it will be Kerrigan or Briggs if Monty doesn't get picked although I think he will be, they'll have an A team / lions squad out there anyway so not the big deal it once was. I'm sure that if England want to select Monty , they will ensure that he gets fixed up,in some way with a county ....they did it for Pietersen with Surrey Plenty of counties would sign him anyway as he will be available most of the time and doesn't carry the fall out with yourself in an empty room ability that KP does, I read somewhere he wanted to go back to Northants to be close to his family but there was a doubt as to whether they could afford his wages.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 16:56:24 GMT
I'd like to see Adil Rashid given a chance as well even if it's a lower profile series against the Windies or Bangladesh. His bowling hasn't come on as much as it should have but he's a cracking bat and could potentially be a no. 6 and 2nd spinner............. He looked to have real potential but doesn't seem to have come on and for some reason doesn't seem to be one the powers that be fancy. I think they have already earmarked Stokes from Durham as one to try and get into the team over the next couple of years to give an extra bowling option , bowls quick and a decent enough batsman to play at 6 eventually. Before this series I would have been happy to see Prior at 6 to bring in another bowling option but not sure he's capable of playing a less gung ho innings where it might be necessary. Stokes looks promising but not sure if he'll turn out to be a bits and pieces cricketer instead of a genuine all rounder. I've seen him bowl 85 mph though against Lancashire so he's definitely got the pace.......
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 17:00:17 GMT
I'd like to see Adil Rashid given a chance as well even if it's a lower profile series against the Windies or Bangladesh. His bowling hasn't come on as much as it should have but he's a cracking bat and could potentially be a no. 6 and 2nd spinner............. A good call mate , a good bat , but as you say his bowling hasn't developed in the way that was hoped for .....we just don't do leggies over here do we ? Ian Salisbury never really cut the corn....and the last before him as I remember was Robin Hobbs ......that was a long time ago ! Ian Salisbury there's a name. Remember the Sri Lankans smashing him all round the park in the late 90's, not sure whether he was spinning it or not as they weren't even bouncing! I think his batting was better than his bowling at test level.............
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 17:11:07 GMT
I'm sure that if England want to select Monty , they will ensure that he gets fixed up,in some way with a county ....they did it for Pietersen with Surrey Plenty of counties would sign him anyway as he will be available most of the time and doesn't carry the fall out with yourself in an empty room ability that KP does, I read somewhere he wanted to go back to Northants to be close to his family but there was a doubt as to whether they could afford his wages. Yes his wages was the reason he left Northants in the first place
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2013 17:11:51 GMT
A good call mate , a good bat , but as you say his bowling hasn't developed in the way that was hoped for .....we just don't do leggies over here do we ? Ian Salisbury never really cut the corn....and the last before him as I remember was Robin Hobbs ......that was a long time ago ! Ian Salisbury there's a name. Remember the Sri Lankans smashing him all round the park in the late 90's, not sure whether he was spinning it or not as they weren't even bouncing! I think his batting was better than his bowling at test level............. Yes he bowled a good full toss
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Post by salopstick on Aug 15, 2013 18:40:26 GMT
Bresnan out
Will see a change next week
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 15, 2013 21:16:49 GMT
I'd like to see Taylor playing instead of KP for two reasons. Rest KP for the one dayers and we need to blood some younger batsmen and we've already won the series and he's in top form. Keep the rest as they are because they need to find some form from somewhere.
Re Bresnan, You'd expect Tremlett or Finn to play if the pitch is a bit bouncy. Probably Tremlett.
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Post by salopstick on Aug 15, 2013 21:19:23 GMT
The oval test is always special
I love those guys that have flats over looking and can watch the cricket from their own balcony
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Post by seasidestokie on Aug 15, 2013 21:55:04 GMT
The oval test is always special I love those guys that have flats over looking and can watch the cricket from their own balcony Yeh, know wot you mean... the bastards!...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2013 22:27:27 GMT
Bresnan out Will see a change next week Tremlett in ....good chance to see him bowl at the Aussies
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2013 22:30:13 GMT
I'd like to see Taylor playing instead of KP for two reasons. Rest KP for the one dayers and we need to blood some younger batsmen and we've already won the series and he's in top form. Keep the rest as they are because they need to find some form from somewhere. Re Bresnan, You'd expect Tremlett or Finn to play if the pitch is a bit bouncy. Probably Tremlett. I don't expect Finn to play ...it will be Tremlett ....not Onions as he has broken a finger playing for Durham....
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 15, 2013 22:32:39 GMT
I'd like to see Taylor playing instead of KP for two reasons. Rest KP for the one dayers and we need to blood some younger batsmen and we've already won the series and he's in top form. Keep the rest as they are because they need to find some form from somewhere. Re Bresnan, You'd expect Tremlett or Finn to play if the pitch is a bit bouncy. Probably Tremlett. I don't expect Finn to play ...it will be Tremlett ....not Onions as he has broken a finger playing for Durham.... Yeah and even if he was fit I think if the Oval is a tad bit bouncy, the other two are more suited to that. If Bresnan hadn't got injured I'd have been tempted to rest Anderson, he just doesn't look right but hopefully the longer rest between Tests will have done him good.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2013 22:38:59 GMT
I don't expect Finn to play ...it will be Tremlett ....not Onions as he has broken a finger playing for Durham.... Yeah and even if he was fit I think if the Oval is a tad bit bouncy, the other two are more suited to that. If Bresnan hadn't got injured I'd have been tempted to rest Anderson, he just doesn't look right but hopefully the longer rest between Tests will have done him good. The Oval will suit Tremlett .....I would not have rested Anderson ...although I agree he looks of the mark ...he should not be that tired ...other than the Tests they do not bowl,that much ...he should be fit enough to cope with a relatively easy workload ....three months rest to follow this series any way ...give him the one dayers off and he ought to be fine for Australia
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 15, 2013 22:41:10 GMT
Yeah and even if he was fit I think if the Oval is a tad bit bouncy, the other two are more suited to that. If Bresnan hadn't got injured I'd have been tempted to rest Anderson, he just doesn't look right but hopefully the longer rest between Tests will have done him good. The Oval will suit Tremlett .....I would not have rested Anderson ...although I agree he looks of the mark ...he should not be that tired ...other than the Tests they do not bowl,that much ...he should be fit enough to cope with a relatively easy workload ....three months rest to follow this series any way ...give him the one dayers off and he ought to be fine for Australia I think he's carrying a niggle and just playing through personally but do agree that he shouldn't be tired. It's Tremlett's home pitch too isn't it? It's a no brainer.
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Aug 15, 2013 22:43:55 GMT
Bish, haven't we got a Fawad Ahmed to call on in short notice just to rub there noses in it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2013 22:53:15 GMT
The Oval will suit Tremlett .....I would not have rested Anderson ...although I agree he looks of the mark ...he should not be that tired ...other than the Tests they do not bowl,that much ...he should be fit enough to cope with a relatively easy workload ....three months rest to follow this series any way ...give him the one dayers off and he ought to be fine for Australia I think he's carrying a niggle and just playing through personally but do agree that he shouldn't be tired. It's Tremlett's home pitch too isn't it? It's a no brainer. Yes I think so to ....it is indeed Tremlett's home ground ...Should be interesting ....I don't wish Bresnan to be injured in the least , but it will save the selectors hand being pushed ...it saves them making a choice they wouldn't have made ...it could be in the best interests of the team that this has occured ...we need to know how Tremlett is coming along ...this is the ideal opportunity to find out
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 15, 2013 23:00:27 GMT
I think he's carrying a niggle and just playing through personally but do agree that he shouldn't be tired. It's Tremlett's home pitch too isn't it? It's a no brainer. Yes I think so to ....it is indeed Tremlett's home ground ...Should be interesting ....I don't wish Bresnan to be injured in the least , but it will save the selectors hand being pushed ...it saves them making a choice they wouldn't have made ...it could be in the best interests of the team that this has occured ...we need to know how Tremlett is coming along ...this is the ideal opportunity to find out Totally agree. It's bad that he's injured but I don't think they would have dropped him, just like they didn't in Durham when they should've done for Onions. I know his 45 in the end was part of the difference but all that does is hide deficiencies in the batting and his bowling.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2013 23:07:04 GMT
Yes I think so to ....it is indeed Tremlett's home ground ...Should be interesting ....I don't wish Bresnan to be injured in the least , but it will save the selectors hand being pushed ...it saves them making a choice they wouldn't have made ...it could be in the best interests of the team that this has occured ...we need to know how Tremlett is coming along ...this is the ideal opportunity to find out Totally agree. It's bad that he's injured but I don't think they would have dropped him, just like they didn't in Durham when they should've done for Onions. I know his 45 in the end was part of the difference but all that does is hide deficiencies in the batting and his bowling. Yes , he is a good honest lad , no question about it , he will put in all the effort that is asked of him ...but there really is a problem with him taking wickets at this level...his batting will always be an added extra ..no question that he is a useful cricketer ....you just nee that bit extra as a front line bowler that he lacks ...a pity really
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 17, 2013 17:49:34 GMT
The Lions have been playing the Aussies over the last two days. We made 269-7 and they were 227-6. Only Clarke and Haddin were missing from the Test team batting line up!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 21:27:00 GMT
The Lions have been playing the Aussies over the last two days. We made 269-7 and they were 227-6. Only Clarke and Haddin were missing from the Test team batting line up! No Australian made 50 against a thin looking Lions attack ......very surprised to see Liam Plunkett in there
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