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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 5, 2013 11:45:38 GMT
Without rain we will lose. Where the fook is it? Forever the optimist aren't you ? Not when it comes to our batsmen!
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Post by slozenger on Aug 5, 2013 11:47:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 11:48:42 GMT
Looks like another shocker of a decision
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 11:49:17 GMT
KP a goner. Step forward Ian Bell need a solid innings from him or we're fooked...........
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 11:49:59 GMT
Forever the optimist aren't you ? Not when it comes to our batsmen! And now the run machine is at the crease
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 11:53:37 GMT
Whatever the outcome of this game we've got a real contest on our hands for the rest of the series. Harris and Siddle are bowling beautifully and our pace attack looks pretty toothless when Anderson isn't at the races. The likes of Bresnan as steady as he his will never rip through an attack and despite his batting he has to make way for Onions in my opinion...............
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Post by slozenger on Aug 5, 2013 11:58:13 GMT
Trying to take my obviously biased England lion tinted spectacles off here.... One thing is certain, these umpires namely Tony Hill, Kumar Dharmasena and Marais Erasmus have been absolutely abysmal in these three Test matches. Back in the day, prior to all this technology you would get dodgy and bad decisions for sure. Especially with non neutral umpires down under and on the sub-continent. Hey, that's sport, that's life. Now with the added ingredient of DRS and Reviewing decisions in this series it seems that a ridiculous amount of umpiring decisions have been incorrect and/or unclear. Whether the original decision by the on-field umpire or by the third umpire afterwards. Mostly this has been in Englands favour, with the exception of the staggering Agar stumping and Trotts decision. However the worm has turned in this test and most are going against England, however in this innings Tony Hill i feel should have given Trott out LBW. Which again goes to this grey area of, if he had then he would be been "proved" correct saying Out had the decision been reviewed. However he was also "proved" correct saying Not Out with the decision reviewed. Crackers. With KP, that incident was exactly the same as the Steve Smith incident. On that occasion Smith was given Not Out, and even though there was audio and no hot spot, the decision stayed not out. Pietersens, given Out, there was audio and no hot spot, the decision stayed out. No wonder we're all lost and confused and frustrated. That's my opinion anyhow, when all is said and done Australia deserve to win this test but how i hope they don't. Typical, it rains for fun in Manchester 350 days a bastard year and the day it's supposed to, the rain gets stuck in traffic!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 5, 2013 11:58:45 GMT
Not when it comes to our batsmen! And now the run machine is at the crease That useless twat better be on form!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 12:05:04 GMT
Trying to take my obviously biased England lion tinted spectacles off here.... One thing is certain, these umpires namely Tony Hill, Kumar Dharmasena and Marais Erasmus have been absolutely abysmal in these three Test matches. Back in the day, prior to all this technology you would get dodgy and bad decisions for sure. Especially with non neutral umpires down under and on the sub-continent. Hey, that's sport, that's life. Now with the added ingredient of DRS and Reviewing decisions in this series it seems that a ridiculous amount of umpiring decisions have been incorrect and/or unclear. Whether the original decision by the on-field umpire or by the third umpire afterwards. Mostly this has been in Englands favour, with the exception of the staggering Agar stumping and Trotts decision. However the worm has turned in this test and most are going against England, however in this innings Tony Hill i feel should have given Trott out LBW. Which again goes to this grey area of, if he had then he would be been "proved" correct saying Out had the decision been reviewed. However he was also "proved" correct saying Not Out with the decision reviewed. Crackers. With KP, that incident was exactly the same as the Steve Smith incident. On that occasion Smith was given Not Out, and even though there was audio and no hot spot, the decision stayed not out. Pietersens, given Out, there was audio and no hot spot, the decision stayed out. No wonder we're all lost and confused and frustrated. That's my opinion anyhow, when all is said and done Australia deserve to win this test but how i hope they don't. Typical, it rains for fun in Manchester 350 days a bastard year and the day it's supposed to, the rain gets stuck in traffic! A team definitely shouldn't lose a referal when it's deemed to be umpires call. The Trott LBW this morning and the Clarke (?) one yesterday we're hitting a fair chunk of the stump. Harsh to punish a team for that.......
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 12:08:41 GMT
Whatever the outcome of this game we've got a real contest on our hands for the rest of the series. Harris and Siddle are bowling beautifully and our pace attack looks pretty toothless when Anderson isn't at the races. The likes of Bresnan as steady as he his will never rip through an attack and despite his batting he has to make way for Onions in my opinion............... I been saying the same about Bresnan for ages , not Onions for me although he is a very good bowler , we need a different type of seamer with some variation , Tremlett would be my choice ,bounce and lift are what we are lacking in our attack with Finn being out of sorts
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 12:12:39 GMT
Trying to take my obviously biased England lion tinted spectacles off here.... One thing is certain, these umpires namely Tony Hill, Kumar Dharmasena and Marais Erasmus have been absolutely abysmal in these three Test matches. Back in the day, prior to all this technology you would get dodgy and bad decisions for sure. Especially with non neutral umpires down under and on the sub-continent. Hey, that's sport, that's life. Now with the added ingredient of DRS and Reviewing decisions in this series it seems that a ridiculous amount of umpiring decisions have been incorrect and/or unclear. Whether the original decision by the on-field umpire or by the third umpire afterwards. Mostly this has been in Englands favour, with the exception of the staggering Agar stumping and Trotts decision. However the worm has turned in this test and most are going against England, however in this innings Tony Hill i feel should have given Trott out LBW. Which again goes to this grey area of, if he had then he would be been "proved" correct saying Out had the decision been reviewed. However he was also "proved" correct saying Not Out with the decision reviewed. Crackers. With KP, that incident was exactly the same as the Steve Smith incident. On that occasion Smith was given Not Out, and even though there was audio and no hot spot, the decision stayed not out. Pietersens, given Out, there was audio and no hot spot, the decision stayed out. No wonder we're all lost and confused and frustrated. That's my opinion anyhow, when all is said and done Australia deserve to win this test but how i hope they don't. Typical, it rains for fun in Manchester 350 days a bastard year and the day it's supposed to, the rain gets stuck in traffic! A team definitely shouldn't lose a referal when it's deemed to be umpires call. The Trott LBW this morning and the Clarke (?) one yesterday we're hitting a fair chunk of the stump. Harsh to punish a team for that....... Yes the DRS system needs a radical re think where this is concerned . Don't weaken mate ....Australia don't deserve anything !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 12:13:57 GMT
And now the run machine is at the crease That useless twat better be on form! Better than the top class form he has been in already you mean ?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 5, 2013 12:24:11 GMT
That useless twat better be on form! Better than the top class form he has been in already you mean ? Reverse psychology bisp! As for Bresnan, Stevie Wonder can see he's not better than average but he's spurred on by the masses of Yorkshire and is picked by the selectors because of his batting. Absolutely tragic. I blame Bairstow on the Yorkshire factor too.
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Post by slozenger on Aug 5, 2013 12:35:57 GMT
I'm not weakening Bispham', just desperately trying to be unbiased....and failing It's raining now!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 12:49:58 GMT
Better than the top class form he has been in already you mean ? Reverse psychology bisp! As for Bresnan, Stevie Wonder can see he's not better than average but he's spurred on by the masses of Yorkshire and is picked by the selectors because of his batting. Absolutely tragic. I blame Bairstow on the Yorkshire factor too. Now I understand .... Bairstow is looking a little out of his depth , but its early days for him yet
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 12:51:49 GMT
I'm not weakening Bispham', just desperately trying to be unbiased....and failing It's raining now! Thank goodness ! If it rains in Manchester like its been raining here , its game over
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 12:59:23 GMT
I'm not weakening Bispham', just desperately trying to be unbiased....and failing It's raining now! Thank goodness ! If it rains in Manchester like its been raining here , its game over What's unbiased mean ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 13:51:13 GMT
Whatever the outcome of this game we've got a real contest on our hands for the rest of the series. Harris and Siddle are bowling beautifully and our pace attack looks pretty toothless when Anderson isn't at the races. The likes of Bresnan as steady as he his will never rip through an attack and despite his batting he has to make way for Onions in my opinion............... I been saying the same about Bresnan for ages , not Onions for me although he is a very good bowler , we need a different type of seamer with some variation , Tremlett would be my choice ,bounce and lift are what we are lacking in our attack with Finn being out of sorts Would agree with Tremlett for when we go down under and for the Oval test where there's more pace and bounce. I think with the weather Chester-le-Street might be a low scoring seamer friendly wicket and Onions tight line and length and ability to swing the ball would edge it for me. Also Bairstow looking a little bit iffy, if we retain the Ashes is it worth giving Stokes his debut at no.6 on his home ground? Decent bat and a genuine 85mph bowler when he finds his rythym, this would even allow us to go with an extra spinner if conditions dictate..........
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 14:11:45 GMT
I been saying the same about Bresnan for ages , not Onions for me although he is a very good bowler , we need a different type of seamer with some variation , Tremlett would be my choice ,bounce and lift are what we are lacking in our attack with Finn being out of sorts Would agree with Tremlett for when we go down under and for the Oval test where there's more pace and bounce. I think with the weather Chester-le-Street might be a low scoring seamer friendly wicket and Onions tight line and length and ability to swing the ball would edge it for me. Also Bairstow looking a little bit iffy, if we retain the Ashes is it worth giving Stokes his debut at no.6 on his home ground? Decent bat and a genuine 85mph bowler when he finds his rythym, this would even allow us to go with an extra spinner if conditions dictate.......... I haven't really seen that much of Stokes so it wouldn't be fair to comment on whether he is good enough or not ......is his bowling up to the mark ? I wouldn't criticise the selection of Onions at all ,as I've said he is a good bowler and a definate improvement over Bresnan who lacks the necessary bite for me
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Post by salopstick on Aug 5, 2013 15:00:51 GMT
cant see any play now, thats it ashes retained
they better give KP man of the match, he has almost single handedly prevented england from losing
if they give it to clarke its a disgrace, he should have been more brave yesterday, he knew it would rain today and should have tried to have 25 overs at england last night well before the bad light and rain
a 220 lead should have been enough to have done it or at least given both sides a realistic chance of winning. the ball was in his court as he had to win the test
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 5, 2013 15:41:05 GMT
Well played boys! (First two tests at least! )
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Post by slozenger on Aug 5, 2013 15:41:40 GMT
Ashes Retained!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 5, 2013 16:03:24 GMT
That'll do!
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Aug 5, 2013 16:10:41 GMT
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Post by slozenger on Aug 5, 2013 16:20:01 GMT
Blimey they're rowdy at the moment, listening to the radio interview with Michael Clarke at the moment and there are fans still there who are proper giving him loads. Firstly giving him the "WHO ARE YA WHO ARE YA WHO ARE YA!" then "IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIVE, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIIIIIVE, YOU LUCKY BASTARD IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIVE!" That's just not cricket!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 16:24:12 GMT
Blimey they're rowdy at the moment, listening to the radio interview with Michael Clarke at the moment and there are fans still there who are proper giving him loads. Firstly giving him the "WHO ARE YA WHO ARE YA WHO ARE YA!" then "IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIVE, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIIIIIVE, YOU LUCKY BASTARD IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIVE!" That's just not cricket! That's what happens when there's nowt to do but drink!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 16:25:20 GMT
Let's all raise a bourbon to this superb day Sod it if the rain secured the ashes.....up yours Aussies
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Aug 5, 2013 16:26:20 GMT
And who said this could not be achieved without. COMPTON.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 5, 2013 16:31:57 GMT
Michael Clarke what a top bloke who always comes across brilliantly in his interviews imo.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 16:40:22 GMT
And who said this could not be achieved without. COMPTON.Nobody said that as I can remember ?
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