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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 13:21:01 GMT
A nice steady morning ......proper test cricket You clearly know your stuff as far as Cricket is concerned, so, do you think we should have forced the follow on and made em bat again, or have we got it right setting an unreachable target. Well the modern trend is to bat teams out of it by not enforcing the follow on and England have achieved plenty of success from that policy in recent years , and it will prove successful again in this game . I am from a different generation I suppose , when you have just bowled the opposition out for 120 and have a lead of 230 and you know you are bowling at a poor batting side who only have one really top class player....yes I would have enforced the follow on . It is psychological to be facing 500 plus I agree and to be beat by a large margin of runs does have an effect on their morale .....but I believe bowling a side out very cheaply twice and possibly winning by an innings is much more demoralising .....the game could have been won in three days or less and the Australians totally blown away .....series would be over and they would be shell shocked ..still as long as we get the right result its ok with me how we do it
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 13:26:19 GMT
That's not just sledging mate .....it's almost intimidation
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Post by salopstick on Jul 20, 2013 13:28:03 GMT
But Bisp just the same as these dry pitches the Ecb need 4/5 day tests for revenue
I'm a bit cynical that this has some bearing on the descision
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Post by salopstick on Jul 20, 2013 13:31:00 GMT
That's not just sledging mate .....it's almost intimidation Funny all the same though
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 13:32:12 GMT
That's not just sledging mate .....it's almost intimidation Funny all the same though Oh yes!
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 20, 2013 13:34:53 GMT
I think the decision was based on the time left in the game. It was only the evening session on day 2 when Australia were bowled out. It's unlikely given their current form, but that is enough time to have got a big score with which to put us under pressure in the final innings. Australia's bowling attack is reasonable, and our top order look shaky, so I can understand the decision to bat again.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 20, 2013 13:37:49 GMT
I miss Mitchell Johnson
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 20, 2013 13:39:08 GMT
That pitch is a disgrace no grass at all and holes as well , can't they sort it out Bish ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 13:44:44 GMT
I think the decision was based on the time left in the game. It was only the evening session on day 2 when Australia were bowled out. It's unlikely given their current form, but that is enough time to have got a big score with which to put us under pressure in the final innings. Australia's bowling attack is reasonable, and our top order look shaky, so I can understand the decision to bat again. No matter how much time had been left in the game , we would not have enforced the follow on .....we don't play the game in that manner any more ....we take the slightly negative safety first route to win games and if we don't win we get the draw.....you can't argue with it as it gets results for the most .....as I have said if we get the desired result . That's all that counts ,there are pros and cons in both ways of doing it , I am certainly not offering any criticism of England
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 13:50:34 GMT
But Bisp just the same as these dry pitches the Ecb need 4/5 day tests for revenue I'm a bit cynical that this has some bearing on the descision If you remember I have mentioned this before .....the ECB would prefer us to win them all half way through the Fifth Day !
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Post by salopstick on Jul 20, 2013 13:52:44 GMT
I miss Mitchell Johnson That is brilliant
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 13:54:30 GMT
That pitch is a disgrace no grass at all and holes as well , can't they sort it out Bish ? Well there is grass on it ....it just dead .....hard and dry pitches always look like battlefields Harry , but they normally play perfectly well enough they just look worse than they are .....modern pitches , gone far into the past are the old soft Green tops !
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 13:57:09 GMT
I miss Mitchell Johnson I remember that ! He is not a bad bowler though .....when he gets it right .....which admittedly isn't very often
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Post by slozenger on Jul 20, 2013 13:58:02 GMT
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 20, 2013 14:02:25 GMT
I miss Mitchell Johnson I remember that ! He is not a bad bowler though .....when he gets it right .....which admittedly isn't very often He has the capability to destroy, the late swing he got at Headingley in 2009 and Perth in 2010 completely knocked us over. He just loses any sense of line and length too easily as the famous song testifies!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 14:04:24 GMT
I remember that ! He is not a bad bowler though .....when he gets it right .....which admittedly isn't very often He has the capability to destroy, the late swing he got at Headingley in 2009 and Perth in 2010 completely knocked us over. He just loses any sense of line and length too easily as the famous song testifies! I think it's to do with his action mate ....he does fall away badly for a left armer...that does affect his line
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Post by westaussiestokie on Jul 20, 2013 14:08:11 GMT
nice catch steve smith
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 14:10:09 GMT
It looked out to me
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 20, 2013 14:11:10 GMT
Once that goes upstairs it's never going to be given out. It's been like that for years.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 20, 2013 14:12:07 GMT
Not much in it, but I agree.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 14:13:11 GMT
Once that goes upstairs it's never going to be given out. It's been like that for years. It has
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Post by westaussiestokie on Jul 20, 2013 14:15:53 GMT
i hate Shane Warne as a commentator. the decision was made, yes it was probably the wrong one but get over it
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 20, 2013 14:18:15 GMT
Although with behaviour like this, who can blame them for referring everything?
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 20, 2013 14:20:41 GMT
i hate Shane Warne as a commentator. the decision was made, yes it was probably the wrong one but get over it He does have a tendency to go on
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 14:22:12 GMT
Although with behaviour like this, who can blame them for referring everything? I remember that as well ....Now for me that IS CHEATING ....no two ways about it
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 14:23:13 GMT
i hate Shane Warne as a commentator. the decision was made, yes it was probably the wrong one but get over it He does have a tendency to go on And on !
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Post by salopstick on Jul 20, 2013 14:24:15 GMT
I don't think that catch was cheating and it probably carried
Given the state of the game England and bell could have gained much goodwill and the moral high ground if he had walked
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 20, 2013 14:26:07 GMT
The decision to bat again was 100% correct I think, in fact I thought it was no-brainer. My favourite Mitchell Johnson moment!
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 20, 2013 14:28:34 GMT
Although with behaviour like this, who can blame them for referring everything? I remember that as well ....Now for me that IS CHEATING ....no two ways about it Agreed, no way he could even try and claim that it carried.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 14:32:11 GMT
I don't think that catch was cheating and it probably carried Given the state of the game England and bell could have gained much goodwill and the moral high ground if he had walked He was not cheating mate ,he caught it cleanly it carried .....If Bell was in doubt he was within his rights to stand his ground , they are difficult ones to be certain of ....He shouldn't walk if he is not certain
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