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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2013 15:24:50 GMT
DRAW WRITTEN ALL OVER IT. SELL YOUR GRANDMOTHER,AND BET ON THE DRAW. Unless there is an earthquake in the vicinity of Trent Bridge .....no way !
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 11, 2013 15:29:14 GMT
The whole DRS is brought into disrepute with that decision. You have to have actual evidence to overrule an on-field call surely?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 11, 2013 15:30:31 GMT
The draw is currently trading at 22/1 if you fancy it. I wouldn't back it with nicked money myself.
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Post by digger on Jul 11, 2013 15:33:16 GMT
:-[OOPS. SORRY A JOKE
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Post by BigKahunaBurger on Jul 11, 2013 15:39:32 GMT
This is depressing. With Trott out i'm genuinely terrified about what's to come after tea Not sure that he was out ...there does look like a deflection when you see it straight on ... I'm 100% certain there was some bat involved mate. Inconsistent from Erasmus
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2013 15:46:06 GMT
The whole DRS is brought into disrepute with that decision. You have to have actual evidence to overrule an on-field call surely? Agreed....and there was none that showed that The umpire made a poor decision ....and that's the reason that DRS was introduced in the first place
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2013 15:48:52 GMT
Not sure that he was out ...there does look like a deflection when you see it straight on ... I'm 100% certain there was some bat involved mate. Inconsistent from Erasmus Yes when it was quite evident that the stumping was out ......not a costly decision was it ? Not that I'm using that to,excuse the poor bowling at their last pair
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Post by slozenger on Jul 11, 2013 16:11:52 GMT
I had to pop out to do some work so i was away from the cricket for a while, i have the radio on now i'm back and can someone please clarify whether or not Hot Spot used in the review for Trott's dismissal?
Because from what Aggers is saying on TMS now, apparantly it wasn't because the TV company were holding the hot spot picture from Roots dismisal to show as a replay so it wasn't working for Trotts first ball and then came the LBW decision. So the hot spot was unavailable. Was that actually the case? Did they not use hot spot for that review? He didn't clarify exactly whether hot spot was used or not but he said the reason why it wasn't. Which obviously suggests it wasn't. Haha i've confused myself there.
Then snicko shows there was an edge and the umpire reviewed it sympathetically because he also knew there was an edge?
If all this about the hot spot not being available for the review is actually true then that's farcical in my opinion. Was it used?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 11, 2013 16:13:26 GMT
Finally we have some test cricket, 2 runs an over and literally nothing happening.
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Post by BigKahunaBurger on Jul 11, 2013 16:16:46 GMT
I had to pop out to do some work so i was away from the cricket for a while, i have the radio on now i'm back and can someone please clarify whether or not Hot Spot used in the review for Trott's dismissal? Because from what Aggers is saying on TMS now, apparantly it wasn't because the TV company were holding the hot spot picture from Roots dismisal to show as a replay so it wasn't working for Trotts first ball and then came the LBW decision. So the hot spot was unavailable. Was that actually the case? Did they not use hot spot for that review? He didn't clarify exactly whether hot spot was used or not but he said the reason why it wasn't. Which obviously suggests it wasn't. Haha i've confused myself there. Then snicko shows there was an edge and the umpire reviewed it sympathetically because he also knew there was an edge? If all this about the hot spot not being available for the review is actually true then that's farcical in my opinion. Was it used? The front on angle of hotspot was used, but not the side on hotspot, for the reason you've said. Snicko was used and didn't appear so show anything, but to the naked eye it is quite clear that the ball deviates before hitting the pad. Trott and the on field umpire both knew that he had hit it, but somehow the clown of a 3rd umpire decided there was enough evidence to overrule the on field decision
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Post by slozenger on Jul 11, 2013 16:18:22 GMT
Watching the replays now, seems neither Rott nor Trott should have been out. Pft! Agar was also stumped and given not out, what a lovely day!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2013 16:53:15 GMT
Finally we have some test cricket, 2 runs an over and literally nothing happening. It's good to be back to normal isnt it ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2013 16:55:58 GMT
Watching the replays now, seems neither Rott nor Trott should have been out. Pft! Agar was also stumped and given not out, what a lovely day! The stumping was clearly out .....it was close but clearly out ...
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 11, 2013 17:41:27 GMT
Finally we have some test cricket, 2 runs an over and literally nothing happening. It's good to be back to normal isnt it ? Only 6 sessions in out of 15 and it seems like we've watched 3 different test matches already! Great stuff and a poke in the eye for those that say 20/20 will kill test cricket!
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Post by oggyoggy on Jul 11, 2013 18:00:14 GMT
I have tickets for tomorrow - if it's half as exciting as the 1st two days then it'll be fan-bloody-tastic! The Ashes (and Wimbledon) are about a million times better than world cups or euro champs or champs league. Football is a gutter sport compared to the Ashes. Loving it!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 11, 2013 19:01:25 GMT
I have tickets for tomorrow - if it's half as exciting as the 1st two days then it'll be fan-bloody-tastic! The Ashes (and Wimbledon) are about a million times better than world cups or euro champs or champs league. Football is a gutter sport compared to the Ashes. Loving it! We don't want an exciting today tomorrow!! We need to scored 220 runs and lose about 4 wickets! Enjoy it you lucky bugger!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2013 20:12:38 GMT
It's good to be back to normal isnt it ? Only 6 sessions in out of 15 and it seems like we've watched 3 different test matches already! Great stuff and a poke in the eye for those that say 20/20 will kill test cricket! Yes it's been an unusual one to say the least , but none less enjoyable for it , to be fair it was enjoyable to watch Agar today even though he gave us the run around . Momo 20/20 is ok for what it is two or three hours entertainment not to be taken overly seriously ( although the Indians take the opposite view for purely financial reasons )it is not for the purist... test cricket is the pinnacle of the game it will never be killed off by flash,bang,wallop instant cricket
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2013 20:16:38 GMT
I have tickets for tomorrow - if it's half as exciting as the 1st two days then it'll be fan-bloody-tastic! The Ashes (and Wimbledon) are about a million times better than world cups or euro champs or champs league. Football is a gutter sport compared to the Ashes. Loving it! We don't want an exciting today tomorrow!! We need to scored 220 runs and lose about 4 wickets! Enjoy it you lucky bugger!! Exactly ! An old fashioned day please .....lets grind them down a bit ! And let them sweat contemplating facing Swann in the last innings when its turning sharply
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Post by harrysburrow on Jul 11, 2013 20:42:20 GMT
Just got round to watching the replays. I've watched the stumping a dozen times, none of the back of the heel is over the line. Close, but a ridiculous decision. With the Trott lbw, there's a marked deflection from front one. Trott knew he'd hit it, Aleem Dar knew he'd hit it and when he had to reverse his decision, held up his hands to Trott as if to say "sorry mate?"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2013 20:49:38 GMT
Just got round to watching the replays. I've watched the stumping a dozen times, none of the back of the heel is over the line. Close, but a ridiculous decision. With the Trott lbw, there's a marked deflection from front one. Trott knew he'd hit it, Aleem Dar knew he'd hit it and when he had to reverse his decision, held up his hands to Trott as if to say "sorry mate?" Exactly so Harry ....it's taking the Mickey out of the referral system he got it wrong on both occasions .....how can that be when he is watching the same pictures that we and the commentators see....everybody but Erasmus got them right ! ....Specsavers are sponsoring the game with their blimp . They need to drop in on him with a few special offers and an eye test !
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Post by harrysburrow on Jul 11, 2013 21:03:09 GMT
Aye up Bispham. A weird day when you're sat at a computer trying to follow things on a scorecard that's updated every 2 minutes! It seems to be the Trott business that's pissed off England, not much mention of the stumping? There did seem a lot of restrained resolve about the way Cook and Pietersen went about their business, let's hope for more of the same tomorrow as you say. I just hope the Agar innings doesn't turn out to be one of those pivotal, momentum swinging scenarios that set the tone for the rest of the series like the Warne ball to Gatting or Harmison's delivery to fourth slip?
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Post by redsaturday on Jul 11, 2013 21:08:45 GMT
Tomorrow we need to bat Bat bat and Bay some more. Forget run rates 2 an over would give a 200 lead with 2 days to go
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Post by harrysburrow on Jul 11, 2013 21:13:10 GMT
Absolutely Red. Aren't you going tomorrow mate?
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Post by redsaturday on Jul 11, 2013 21:39:15 GMT
Absolutely Red. Aren't you going tomorrow mate? Saturday and Sunday I've got tickets for. But I think it's our best chance of winning, can't throw wickets away like Wednesday got to make them work for them. Red Hot long day in the field tomorrow. The pitch will be falling apart come Saturday tea time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2013 23:04:58 GMT
Aye up Bispham. A weird day when you're sat at a computer trying to follow things on a scorecard that's updated every 2 minutes! It seems to be the Trott business that's pissed off England, not much mention of the stumping? There did seem a lot of restrained resolve about the way Cook and Pietersen went about their business, let's hope for more of the same tomorrow as you say. I just hope the Agar innings doesn't turn out to be one of those pivotal, momentum swinging scenarios that set the tone for the rest of the series like the Warne ball to Gatting or Harmison's delivery to fourth slip? I don't think it will be pivotal mate .....it changed the completion of the game no doubt , it hasn't taken the game away from us but its kept Australia in it , if they had been a hundred behind on first innings they would have been out of it I feel ....there is no Warne or McGrath in this series like there was in the instances you mention ..anything around 250 on here will be hard against Swann the way it's turning
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Post by oggyoggy on Jul 12, 2013 5:20:01 GMT
I have tickets for tomorrow - if it's half as exciting as the 1st two days then it'll be fan-bloody-tastic! The Ashes (and Wimbledon) are about a million times better than world cups or euro champs or champs league. Football is a gutter sport compared to the Ashes. Loving it! We don't want an exciting today tomorrow!! We need to scored 220 runs and lose about 4 wickets! Enjoy it you lucky bugger!! Sadly you're right. KP and Cook to bat until tea hitting big tons each, then to come out swinging like it's 20/20 for the final session. In the meantime I shall be preparing a beer snake that even Gazza would be proud of!
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Post by BigKahunaBurger on Jul 12, 2013 8:28:33 GMT
I'll be watching at work today, and the next two days for that matter...
300/4 at stumps will do nicely today
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2013 9:44:47 GMT
We don't want an exciting today tomorrow!! We need to scored 220 runs and lose about 4 wickets! Enjoy it you lucky bugger!! Sadly you're right. KP and Cook to bat until tea hitting big tons each, then to come out swinging like it's 20/20 for the final session. In the meantime I shall be preparing a beer snake that even Gazza would be proud of! No need to come out swinging like its 20/20 ....there will still be two days to go ....proper cricket is the order of the day from now on
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Jul 12, 2013 10:02:14 GMT
Exactly. Sensible batting, if two players can go on to make tons and a few little contributions from middle/lower order and 250-300 lead a possibility. Always a competative target in 4th innnings...
Highest ever successful 4th innings run chases - only 10 300+ chases and relatively few 250+:-
West Indies v Australia 09/05/2003 West Indies win by 3 wickets 418 Australia v South Africa 17/12/2008 South Africa won by 6 wickets 414 New Zealand v West Indies 27/02/1969 West Indies win by 5 wickets 348 England v West Indies 28/06/1984 West Indies win by 9 wickets 344 South Africa v Australia 15/03/2002 South Africa win by 5 wickets 340 Australia v England 29/12/1928 England win by 3 wickets 332 West Indies v Pakistan 13/03/1958 West Indies win by 8 wickets 317 England v Australia 16/08/2001 England win by 6 wickets 315 West Indies v Australia 26/03/1999 West Indies win by 1 wickets 311 New Zealand v England 13/02/1997 England win by 4 wickets 307 Australia v England 01/01/1970 England win by 6 wickets 298 England v Pakistan 17/08/2006 England win by 1 runs 298 Australia v South Africa 06/02/1953 South Africa win by 6 wickets 297 England v New Zealand 23/05/2008 England won by 6 wickets 294 South Africa v England 02/01/1906 South Africa win by 1 wickets 287 England v New Zealand 10/06/2004 England win by 4 wickets 284 England v South Africa 30/07/2008 South Africa won by 5 wickets 283 Australia v England 01/01/1908 England win by 1 wickets 282 England v New Zealand 24/05/2004 England win by 7 wickets 282 West Indies v England 05/02/1998 West Indies win by 3 wickets 282 India v West Indies 25/11/1987 West Indies win by 5 wickets 276 West Indies v Pakistan 22/04/1988 West Indies win by 2 wickets 268 England v Australia 11/08/1902 England win by 1 wickets 263 England v West Indies 22/08/1963 West Indies win by 8 wickets 255 South Africa v England 14/01/2000 England win by 2 wickets 251
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2013 10:08:20 GMT
Exactly. Sensible batting, if two players can go on to make tons and a few little contributions from middle/lower order and 250-300 lead a possibility. Always a competative target in 4th innnings... Highest ever successful 4th innings run chases - only 10 300+ chases and relatively few 250+:- West Indies v Australia 09/05/2003 West Indies win by 3 wickets 418 Australia v South Africa 17/12/2008 South Africa won by 6 wickets 414 New Zealand v West Indies 27/02/1969 West Indies win by 5 wickets 348 England v West Indies 28/06/1984 West Indies win by 9 wickets 344 South Africa v Australia 15/03/2002 South Africa win by 5 wickets 340 Australia v England 29/12/1928 England win by 3 wickets 332 West Indies v Pakistan 13/03/1958 West Indies win by 8 wickets 317 England v Australia 16/08/2001 England win by 6 wickets 315 West Indies v Australia 26/03/1999 West Indies win by 1 wickets 311 New Zealand v England 13/02/1997 England win by 4 wickets 307 Australia v England 01/01/1970 England win by 6 wickets 298 England v Pakistan 17/08/2006 England win by 1 runs 298 Australia v South Africa 06/02/1953 South Africa win by 6 wickets 297 England v New Zealand 23/05/2008 England won by 6 wickets 294 South Africa v England 02/01/1906 South Africa win by 1 wickets 287 England v New Zealand 10/06/2004 England win by 4 wickets 284 England v South Africa 30/07/2008 South Africa won by 5 wickets 283 Australia v England 01/01/1908 England win by 1 wickets 282 England v New Zealand 24/05/2004 England win by 7 wickets 282 West Indies v England 05/02/1998 West Indies win by 3 wickets 282 India v West Indies 25/11/1987 West Indies win by 5 wickets 276 West Indies v Pakistan 22/04/1988 West Indies win by 2 wickets 268 England v Australia 11/08/1902 England win by 1 wickets 263 England v West Indies 22/08/1963 West Indies win by 8 wickets 255 South Africa v England 14/01/2000 England win by 2 wickets 251 That says all that needs to be said
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