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Post by thesandbankskid on Jun 5, 2013 19:30:26 GMT
We all know he's a good keeper but just how good? Are we saying he is as good as Joe Hart or what? With Man Utd & Liverpool interested he has to be a bit special.
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Post by slother on Jun 5, 2013 19:57:26 GMT
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7pm. Begovic worth £15m.
9pm. Begovic worth £20m.
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Post by redsaturday on Jun 5, 2013 20:17:50 GMT
We all know he's a good keeper but just how good? Are we saying he is as good as Joe Hart or what? With Man Utd & Liverpool interested he has to be a bit special. He's sound is bego |
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Jun 5, 2013 20:49:04 GMT
I'll put it this way. Even though he is raved about, he is still underrated. The way he has improved this year alone is phenomenal.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 23:05:17 GMT
As good as Joe Hart, Hart is a bottler and a flapper. I wouldn't swap them.
He's saved us quite a few points this season and should be a priority to keep above everyone.
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Post by metalhead on Jun 5, 2013 23:25:31 GMT
Begovic is an outstanding keeper, even for Premiership standards. To put it into context, two goalkeepers kept more clean sheets, Joe Hart and David De Gea. Two keepers with very strong defences in front of them, that were pretty consistent throughout the season. Our defence started strong but turned into melted butter by the end of the season. If it wasn't for Bego, I genuinely believe we'd have gone down.
Hart is probably the best keeper in the Prem... but I'll happily say Begovic is probably second best. De Gea is miles behind and Cech isn't what he used to be (Although his performances at the end of this season were stunning)
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Post by stokemanusa on Jun 5, 2013 23:38:34 GMT
Begovic is an outstanding keeper, even for Premiership standards. To put it into context, two goalkeepers kept more clean sheets, Joe Hart and David De Gea. Two keepers with very strong defences in front of them, that were pretty consistent throughout the season. Our defence started strong but turned into melted butter by the end of the season. If it wasn't for Bego, I genuinely believe we'd have gone down. Hart is probably the best keeper in the Prem... but I'll happily say Begovic is probably second best. De Gea is miles behind and Cech isn't what he used to be (Although his performances at the end of this season were stunning) I think your spot on but for me Bego will surpass hart he's improving so much... So fast its scarry. |
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Post by howedy on Jun 6, 2013 0:01:26 GMT
He made literally 1 or 2 mistakes this whole season and put in some bacon saving saves. I honestly dont know what more you can ask from a keeper? Hes by far the best keeper in the prem when it comes to set pieces, he ALWAYS plucks the ball out of the air
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jun 6, 2013 0:25:03 GMT
I never doubted the awesomeness of Bego's shot-stopping, but always lamented his distribution. I'm not backing this up with stats. The last few games of this past season I was mightily impressed with his confidence in the 'out'... Less of the massive diagonal bang. {May be because N'Zonzi had upped his game a bit, maybe Shotton was sub-Delap in the chuck, Ryan took that job off him, and whatnot}. Nevertheless, those last few matches he looked like the complete keeper... the finest in this league..
I was impressed by Brad Guzon at the Brit, he commanded the penalty area and allowed Villa the opportunity to counter counter attack.
De Gea is a sheep in wolf's clothing and Hart is always capable of a bambi moment. I'd trust Bego over them.
I havn't seen the Butland gaff yet.
two questions:
1} Does Bego do enough shouting?
2} The goalkeeping coaching/scouting side of things havn't been dismantled have they?
Bego is a product of whatever set up we have... door slammed in his face at Spurs... now on QofS.
Whatever criticisms of whatever aspect of SCFC people have. We have had, and have a mint heritage regarding the noble art of keeping goal.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2013 7:03:29 GMT
The only weak point is his kicking which at times is poor but only now and then. He is without doubt an outstanding keeper.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2013 7:16:31 GMT
We all know he's a good keeper but just how good? Are we saying he is as good as Joe Hart or what? With Man Utd & Liverpool interested he has to be a bit special. He is better than joe hart without doubt |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 6, 2013 7:42:25 GMT
Best goalkeeper in the Premiership last season by some distance and worth a fortune with further improvement still to come as well. He could end up being the best in the world.
We have the best pair of goalkeepers in the Premier League currently. No club has a pair better than Begovic/Sorenson!
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Post by apb1 on Jun 6, 2013 7:50:46 GMT
He is excellent - when a shot comes in I am always confident he'll hold on, and usually he does.
I wouldn't swap him for any keeper in the world, except maybe the Bayern guy
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Post by longtimestokie on Jun 6, 2013 8:19:18 GMT
my honest oppinion,, we would have gone down without him
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Post by bertiestan on Jun 6, 2013 8:29:04 GMT
along with courtois he's the best young keeper in europe, better than hart imo.
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Post by scfc1983 on Jun 6, 2013 8:39:42 GMT
Brilliant. Still only young and has the potential to be the best. Keepers tend to peak later than other players so his potential is frightening.
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Post by vahl on Jun 6, 2013 8:41:34 GMT
I think we have one of the best goalies in the world, no rose tinted specs involved.
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Post by finchy on Jun 6, 2013 8:44:31 GMT
Bego and Mignolet are the two best goalkeepers in the league for me.
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Post by redwhite on Jun 6, 2013 8:48:21 GMT
I honestly believe he will be considered the best in the World when he's playing for a top club in couple of years. He made at least one spectacular save per game last season and apart from his kicking I can't think of anything he's weak at.
Goal Keepers aren't as easy to judge when you compare them to others but I really do think that Bego is something special. Pulis' best buy by a mile in terms of talent.
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Post by paulinespens on Jun 6, 2013 9:02:44 GMT
Now Bego isnt playing in a Dulis team his distrubution will match his saving abillity,he'll be allowed to play it out to the FB/CB instead of twating it to Crouchy all the time.
He will then become the best young keeper in any league anywhere.
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Post by Stoke711 on Jun 6, 2013 11:57:40 GMT
I always remember someone posting on here, about Begovic before he'd even played a game for us. One of our fans had gone to Austria for pre-season and a local had asked him who's that (Begovic), the local said we'd got an amazing talent.
Begovic for me is easily in top 4 keepers in the prem. i've never felt so confident with him in goal, be sad to see him go if he does, imo he's easily worth £20m.
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Jun 6, 2013 12:04:02 GMT
His best save ever would be the 94th minute against Besiktas I think it was? At the Brit, anyone got a link?
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Post by The Stubborn Optimist on Jun 6, 2013 12:06:38 GMT
If Gordon Banks reckons Bego's a good keeper, which he does, that's good enough for me.
He knows a thing or two about being a good keeper does our Banksy.
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Jun 6, 2013 12:14:39 GMT
His best save ever would be the 94th minute against Besiktas I think it was? At the Brit, anyone got a link? Wasn't t |
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Jun 6, 2013 12:17:44 GMT
His best save ever would be the 94th minute against Besiktas I think it was? At the Brit, anyone got a link? Wasnt that against kyiv? I liked the one against Swansea at home from the header, and the one away to liverpool. Can't link because I'm on my phone, but those three are all on one compilation video on YouTube |
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Post by snapper23 on Jun 6, 2013 12:18:25 GMT
He is the best we have had since Shilts
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2013 12:21:41 GMT
I always remember someone posting on here, about Begovic before he'd even played a game for us. One of our fans had gone to Austria for pre-season and a local had asked him who's that (Begovic), the local said we'd got an amazing talent. Begovic for me is easily in top 4 keepers in the prem. i've never felt so confident with him in goal, be sad to see him go if he does, imo he's easily worth £20m. we're NOT going to get £20 million!!!! sod what Man Utd. paid for De Gea...that's only of any relevance if it's Man Utd. that we sell him to and then fair enough we can use that as a yardstick otherwise it's completely irrelevant to any other team! it'd be like sticking a £50 mill pricetag on the head of Walters because he's scored more than Carroll this season who cost Liverpool £35 mill. £20 million would put him as the second highest transfer fee for any goalkeeper in the world ever....even Neuer was only £19 million and he's far better and more experienced than Begs. reality check needed methinks! yes, he's under contract so technically we can demand what we want but if someone bids £12 million plus for a player we bought for £3.5 mill then it's bloody brilliant business and SCFC will snap their hands off! |
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Post by obhstokie on Jun 6, 2013 12:25:08 GMT
Absolutely insane
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2013 12:32:56 GMT
right, now i'll probably get some stick for this but....... if that vid was ANY other keeper then most on here would admit that most (not all) of those AREN'T amazing saves at all. they're actually mostly saves that would be bloody awful if the keeper DIDN'T stop them...even the penalty at the start was bloody awful (no power, nowhere near the corner, basically straight at the keeper) and the majority of Prem keepers would be expected to keep it out. for me, if the keeper would have been criticised heavily if he HADN'T stopped it then it's not an amazing save and most of the saves in that vid fall into that category....i know youtube can make anyone look good or bad but this vid is someone trying to make Begs look amazing (and i agree he is a fantastic keeper) and picking some really really bad examples of mostly bog standard saves to show it. no criticism of Begs at all, more a criticism of whoever put the vid together |
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Post by lordb on Jun 6, 2013 12:39:17 GMT
I never doubted the awesomeness of Bego's shot-stopping, but always lamented his distribution. I'm not backing this up with stats. The last few games of this past season I was mightily impressed with his confidence in the 'out'... Less of the massive diagonal bang. {May be because N'Zonzi had upped his game a bit, maybe Shotton was sub-Delap in the chuck, Ryan took that job off him, and whatnot}. Nevertheless, those last few matches he looked like the complete keeper... the finest in this league.. I was impressed by Brad Guzon at the Brit, he commanded the penalty area and allowed Villa the opportunity to counter counter attack. De Gea is a sheep in wolf's clothing and Hart is always capable of a bambi moment. I'd trust Bego over them. I havn't seen the Butland gaff yet. two questions: 1} Does Bego do enough shouting? 2} The goalkeeping coaching/scouting side of things havn't been dismantled have they? Bego is a product of whatever set up we have... door slammed in his face at Spurs... now on QofS. Whatever criticisms of whatever aspect of SCFC people have. We have had, and have a mint heritage regarding the noble art of keeping goal. I noticed his communication with his defenders improved tremendously over the last season. He is utterley in comand of his area now,he's cut out the gaffes from 2 years ago,he still make top saves. & he's got 10 years minimum ahead of him & of course he could still get better He's stubburn enough to not just go & sit on someones bench. We already have his replacement & he is under contract. & we don't need the money. Our position couldnt be any stronger £15m? tbh bollocks to that,make it £25m. TP had his failing but when it came to keepers he signed bloody good ones for Stoke at good value too. |
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