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Post by Dave the Rave on Jun 5, 2013 12:09:20 GMT
Stoke.
Oh really Peter?
Only rational fans will agree with your decision will they?
Patronising old git!
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Post by kingstokie on Jun 5, 2013 12:13:12 GMT
What do you want him to say?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 12:14:23 GMT
Stoke. Oh really Peter? Only rational fans will agree with your decision will they? Patronising old git! I don't recall you having a problem with Tone's "sensible fans" talk... |
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Post by Gods on Jun 5, 2013 12:14:41 GMT
Hughes (and Coates) will desperately want a Prem win "early doors".
If we don't get that the media and some fans will start adding to this his 13 match run without a win at QPR stretching back 18 months as it will be come August to Cisse's 88th minute strike against us the season before last and some pretty horrendous stats will start to emerge.
The temperature on Hughes' jacksy will get very high, very fast so we need a decent start like never before.
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Jun 5, 2013 12:16:09 GMT
he could certainly do without the absolute cunt of a set of opening fixtures we've had the last few years.
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Post by jbstokie on Jun 5, 2013 12:16:15 GMT
He's right, someone like Martinez could have taken us down by trying to play like Barcelona when we don't have the players for it. Hughes is as close to the middle ground as we could get.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 12:16:33 GMT
peter coats of old im afraid .i remember been a nipper at the vic in the boothern end with the crowed screaming coats out every game and who remmber the coats out written on the d -road wall in big red letters
i personally dont think he can afford run a prem club and is trying do it on the cheep .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 12:18:46 GMT
peter coats of old im afraid .i remember been a nipper at the vic in the boothern end with the crowed screaming coats out every game and who remmber the coats out written on the d -road wall in big red letters i personally dont think he can afford run a prem club and is trying do it on the cheep . He's spent £100m! |
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Post by ruts66 on Jun 5, 2013 12:20:47 GMT
peter coats of old im afraid .i remember been a nipper at the vic in the boothern end with the crowed screaming coats out every game and who remmber the coats out written on the d -road wall in big red letters i personally dont think he can afford run a prem club and is trying do it on the cheep . No mate, that's Blackburn's owners...  |
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 5, 2013 12:21:37 GMT
peter coats of old im afraid .i remember been a nipper at the vic in the boothern end with the crowed screaming coats out every game and who remmber the coats out written on the d -road wall in big red letters i personally dont think he can afford run a prem club and is trying do it on the cheep . As a billionaire it must be really hard for him.  Coates Out. |
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Post by ihaveadream on Jun 5, 2013 12:26:38 GMT
peter coats of old im afraid .i remember been a nipper at the vic in the boothern end with the crowed screaming coats out every game and who remmber the coats out written on the d -road wall in big red letters i personally dont think he can afford run a prem club and is trying do it on the cheep . We have to get our coats out and put them on for most games, the Brit can be rather chilly Coat (s out) being fetched |
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Post by thebet365 on Jun 5, 2013 12:27:18 GMT
I can't believe I've been in a discussion with that twonk over the last 24 hours. What a retarded post. "doing it on the cheap" Unbelievable Jeff!!!!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 5, 2013 12:27:41 GMT
It does seem peculiar timing if he did say it. A lot of the negative feeling around the appointment has long since died down.
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Post by spiderpuss on Jun 5, 2013 12:28:28 GMT
Hughes (and Coates) will desperately want a Prem win "early doors". If we don't get that the media and some fans will start adding to this his 13 match run without a win at QPR stretching back 18 months as it will be come August to Cisse's 88th minute strike against us the season before last and some pretty horrendous stats will start to emerge. The temperature on Hughes' jacksy will get very high, very fast so we need a decent start like never before. Very much so, I'm sure many hacks have already knocked the story up in the close season to save them the hassle when they are busy. Is it too much pressure it would seem Hughes has little or no honeymoon period, that would have been afforded to - say - Gus Poyet. Interesting times! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 12:30:22 GMT
hes spent 85m in which in the last 5 years the club had brought in 60m a year and he payed 15m for a club thats worth about 120 -150m its only now his investments would be at the point in which they couldn't return .hence hes trying not to put anymore into it claiming we need be sustainable.
and he tried that before with stoke and we went down remember and his lack of funds last year with not buying the players the club needed nearly sent us down it was only luck our fixtures ment we played the crap teams to get 6 points.
why is he not filling the corners? because he knows he couldn't get his investment back and spending 85m on a team for 5years in the prem isnt that impressive a 1 good player today could cost u 20m .
and to own a football club u need be a multibillion air who dont give a shit if u loose 200m building a good squad and ground none of this i spent 85m be grateful you peasants and hes worth 750m 1 of the lowest premiership club owners in wealth hence trying do it on the cheap
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Post by ruts66 on Jun 5, 2013 12:33:39 GMT
"u need be a multibillion air who dont give a shit if u loose"
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is enough to convince me...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 12:35:01 GMT
But we haven't got one of those multibillionaire owners have we? Most clubs don't have one of those. Stoke aren't ever going to be a Champions League club. Far more sensible to reign things in and look at becoming more sustainable through buying younger players/cheaper foreign players and investing in the academy than just spunking big money and wages on 'names' every year. The likes of Bradford, Pompey and Leeds are cautionary tales.
Swansea's owner doesn't exactly splash the cash. Nor does West Brom's.
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Post by thebet365 on Jun 5, 2013 12:36:14 GMT
we didn't bring in 60Mill net profit a year, we've made a loss almost every year so that 60 Mill means nothing.
When he was here before he had no money (well not on the level he has now) so ran us strictly as a business only spending any profits which did end in disaster but it's fuck all like the situation we're in now.
He's not filling in the corners because we didn't fill the ground last year, it's called supply and demand, and the demand just isn't there.
Please sod off up Leeds so you can watch your 80 Million pound players, we're Stoke City, we want a well run steady club, not a Leeds United thanks
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Post by jbstokie on Jun 5, 2013 12:37:40 GMT
hes spent 85m in which in the last 5 years the club had brought in 60m a year and he payed 15m for a club thats worth about 120 -150m its only now his investments would be at the point in which they couldn't return .hence hes trying not to put anymore into it claiming we need be sustainable. and he tried that before with stoke and we went down remember and his lack of funds last year with not buying the players the club needed nearly sent us down it was only luck our fixtures ment we played the crap teams to get 6 points. why is he not filling the corners? because he knows he couldn't get his investment back and spending 85m on a team for 5years in the prem isnt that impressive a 1 good player today could cost u 20m . and to own a football club u need be a multibillion air who dont give a shit if u loose 200m building a good squad and ground none of this i spent 85m be grateful you peasants and hes worth 750m 1 of the lowest premiership club owners in wealth hence trying do it on the cheap Stoke have the 12th richest owners in the Prem you illiterate moron. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 5, 2013 12:40:23 GMT
hes spent 85m in which in the last 5 years the club had brought in 60m a year and he payed 15m for a club thats worth about 120 -150m its only now his investments would be at the point in which they couldn't return .hence hes trying not to put anymore into it claiming we need be sustainable. and he tried that before with stoke and we went down remember and his lack of funds last year with not buying the players the club needed nearly sent us down it was only luck our fixtures ment we played the crap teams to get 6 points. why is he not filling the corners? because he knows he couldn't get his investment back and spending 85m on a team for 5years in the prem isnt that impressive a 1 good player today could cost u 20m . and to own a football club u need be a multibillion air who dont give a shit if u loose 200m building a good squad and ground none of this i spent 85m be grateful you peasants and hes worth 750m 1 of the lowest premiership club owners in wealth hence trying do it on the cheap Elvis, I suspected yesterday that you were a wind up merchant - this thread has confirmed my suspicions. Just three questions from me: 1) Why bother with the spelling and grammatical errors? Now you have been found out there is no point in keeping up the pretence of being a numpty. 2) Before you adopted the name banjoelvis, what name did you use? 3) Why do it? |
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Post by PolPotter on Jun 5, 2013 12:42:37 GMT
He's losing it. Silly old sod. To only meet one manager is wrong for a start but to employ Hughes on the grounds that he is thought to be outstanding is pretty shocking and insulting. What the f**k is so outstanding about Mark Hughes during his time as manager for any of his previous clubs. Pulis did more during his Premiership stint than Mark Hughes has done during his time in this league and he's managed far more games. I wouldn't mind if he had potential.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 5, 2013 12:43:33 GMT
But we haven't got one of those multibillionaire owners have we? Most clubs don't have one of those. Stoke aren't ever going to be a Champions League club. Far more sensible to reign things in and look at becoming more sustainable through buying younger players/cheaper foreign players and investing in the academy than just spunking big money and wages on 'names' every year. The likes of Bradford, Pompey and Leeds are cautionary tales. Swansea's owner doesn't exactly splash the cash. Nor does West Brom's. The problem I have about it all is timing. The taps appear to be being turned down at a time of record revenues when other clubs might be thinking of turning the taps up a bit. It might be eminently sensible but it does come with some risk. Hopefully the taps haven't been turned down as much as is being made out and as long as more rational judgements are put forward for buying players the funds will still be made available. We're forever told that Coates is a football man and he must know that we need half a dozen players this Summer. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 12:44:29 GMT
we lost 14m last year with 75% of our income going on players wages and gate receipts bring in 8m ..and u just agreed with what i said hes not doing the corners because we didnt fill the ground even tho every home game was nearly a sell out ..point been he wouldn't get his investment back
and i look at it this way buy quality players/ play good football /compete for cups and press up the league and he would of filled them corners with extra fans'
but to play quality football you need quality players that cost money / a quality manager ( unlike hughes )and u dont sell you best players you have to improve as a club and team .
and what year are u living in leeds with 80m pound players?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 12:44:52 GMT
Spot on Mr Coates
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 12:48:26 GMT
so it's started already....someone connected to the club says basically the right thing and someone on here finds some reason to bloody moan about it..it's almost as if the irrational criticism that surrounded everything Pulis and Coates did at the end of the manager's tenure has never gone away.....
he's obviously commenting on some idiots who have already started appealing for "Hughes out" etc. (the man with the van,bloody stafford and his pathetic signature for instance) before a ball has even been kicked and can anyone really disagree that wanting rid of a manager who hasn't even taken a training session yet is irrational?
fair comments by Peter i say
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 12:49:08 GMT
we lost 14m last year with 75% of our income going on players wages and gate receipts bring in 8m ..and u just agreed with what i said hes not doing the corners because we didnt fill the ground even tho every home game was nearly a sell out ..point been he wouldn't get his investment back and i look at it this way buy quality players/ play good football /compete for cups and press up the league and he would of filled them corners with extra fans' but to play quality football you need quality players that cost money / a quality manager ( unlike hughes )and u dont sell you best players you have to improve as a club and team . and what year are u living in leeds with 80m pound players? Leeds lived beyond their means, which is what you seem to be advocating by calling for us to keep spending willy nilly. We HAVE spent money - if the quality isn't what it should be that isn't Coates' fault is it? He's backed the manager all the way. If it was as easy as you're suggesting why do we see the same old clubs at the top every year? Why has nobody else cracked this cunning formula to compete with the big boys? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 12:50:19 GMT
Pulis did more during his Premiership stint than Mark Hughes has done during his time in this league No he didn't. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 5, 2013 12:52:01 GMT
so it's started already....someone connected to the club says basically the right thing and someone on here finds some reason to bloody moan about it..it's almost as if the irrational criticism that surrounded everything Pulis and Coates did at the end of the manager's tenure has never gone away..... he's obviously commenting on some idiots who have already started appealing for "Hughes out" etc. (the man with the van,bloody stafford and his pathetic signature for instance) before a ball has even been kicked and can anyone really disagree that wanting rid of a manager who hasn't even taken a training session yet is irrational? fair comments by Peter i say I'm just surprised he felt the need to mick. The Press Conference seemed to win a lot of people over and any lingering resentment seems to be from a tiny number of nutters! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 12:54:14 GMT
coats out!!
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Post by Squeekster on Jun 5, 2013 12:54:49 GMT
It's not so much that people are against Hughes and many are warming to him and will support him now he's here,it was just how Coates said they'd sacked Pulis as they wanted to go in a completely different direction and see's youth as a big part of the new direction.
Although i think Hughes is an upgrade on pulis he doesn't strike me as the kind of manager Coates had in mind when he made that statement!
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