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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 12:55:35 GMT
Did Coates himself actually ever say that though?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 12:56:44 GMT
But we haven't got one of those multibillionaire owners have we? Most clubs don't have one of those. Stoke aren't ever going to be a Champions League club. Far more sensible to reign things in and look at becoming more sustainable through buying younger players/cheaper foreign players and investing in the academy than just spunking big money and wages on 'names' every year. The likes of Bradford, Pompey and Leeds are cautionary tales. Swansea's owner doesn't exactly splash the cash. Nor does West Brom's. i wouldn't bother Rob, looking at the other thread he's obviously googled some figures and suddenly become a fully qualified, professional accountant...i'm simply amazed that he hasn't been hired by the club as yet after all he can use google and everything whilst poor old Peter is having to sit there and be instructed by him how to run one a Premier league club and presumably also one of the largest online betting companies in the world!! it's a piece of piss really 1) how much do you make from the Barclay's Premier league? 2) subtract how much you spend on players and that's your figure, done and dusted (money made form corporate sponsorship, advertising, events, media etc. etc. etc. doesn't even come into play at any point whatsoever, anywhere ever, ever, ever in any financial accounting obviously according to him) banjoelvis IS the new Duncan Bannantyne don't you know!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 12:57:54 GMT
How can you honestly give PC grief? Jesus Christ we would not be in this good position without him.
Coates and Hughes in!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 12:59:14 GMT
hughes has a bigger net of contacts then pulis so wont be hard for him to deal in the transfer market the reason coats employed him and sacked pulis under pulis coats would of had to spend spend spend he thinks hughes can find better talent for good reasonable money who could make a profit when sold
i quote from peter coats in the press conference football is about buying and selling players..( in which hes wrong its about buying players getting the best out of them and selling them when they no longer can compete at a good level not when there in there prime )
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 12:59:31 GMT
He's losing it. Silly old sod. To only meet one manager is wrong for a start but to employ Hughes on the grounds that he is thought to be outstanding is pretty shocking and insulting. What the f**k is so outstanding about Mark Hughes during his time as manager for any of his previous clubs. Pulis did more during his Premiership stint than Mark Hughes has done during his time in this league and he's managed far more games. I wouldn't mind if he had potential. Potential to do what? Finish in the top ten three times with blackburn? get them to three consecutive cup semi finals? get them into europe twice? get fulham into the top ten and into europe? yeah i recall Pulis doing all of that to paraphrase you Pol, to slag off a chairman for appointing a manager when you obviously have no grasp on reality of what the facts are is pretty shocking and insulting |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 5, 2013 13:00:37 GMT
Did Coates himself actually ever say that though? Pulis said that, that's what Coates said to him at 'that' meeting. Depends what you want to believe I guess. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 13:03:07 GMT
peter coats of old im afraid .i remember been a nipper at the vic in the boothern end with the crowed screaming coats out every game and who remmber the coats out written on the d -road wall in big red letters i personally dont think he can afford run a prem club and is trying do it on the cheep . This is possibly the worst post I have ever read on this board |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 13:03:50 GMT
so it's started already....someone connected to the club says basically the right thing and someone on here finds some reason to bloody moan about it..it's almost as if the irrational criticism that surrounded everything Pulis and Coates did at the end of the manager's tenure has never gone away..... he's obviously commenting on some idiots who have already started appealing for "Hughes out" etc. (the man with the van,bloody stafford and his pathetic signature for instance) before a ball has even been kicked and can anyone really disagree that wanting rid of a manager who hasn't even taken a training session yet is irrational? fair comments by Peter i say I'm just surprised he felt the need to mick. The Press Conference seemed to win a lot of people over and any lingering resentment seems to be from a tiny number of nutters! agreed momo, the only thing i can think of is that he's aware how quickly those few nutters can turn into a larger, ever growing mob of nutters if we don't get instant results. the people on here who despised Pulis and wanted to turn his name and legacy into mud and wipe all the good he did from all public records started out as only a small group that seemed to grow very quickly on here once the results took a downturn |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 13:12:12 GMT
hughes has a bigger net of contacts then pulis so wont be hard for him to deal in the transfer market the reason coats employed him and sacked pulis under pulis coats would of had to spend spend spend he thinks hughes can find better talent for good reasonable money who could make a profit when sold i quote from peter coats in the press conference football is about buying and selling players..( in which hes wrong its about buying players getting the best out of them and selling them when they no longer can compete at a good level not when there in there prime ) jesus hates christ!!!! have you ever watched football mate????? for a club our size it IS about buying cheap, young players then selling them on when they get to their prime. it's selling them begrudgingly but it HAS to be done for a club our size..do you honestly think that any really quality player would WANT to stay at a club our size when the big names come calling and offer £20 mill for them???? the difference between good businessmen and, well...you is that businessmen realise and are fully aware of their potential and where their ceiling is and use that to their full advantage!! all coates said was that we wouldn't be buying in £10 million players who are old (therefore have little "Potential") and have no resale value; he would rather bring in a young player with bags of potential who bigger clubs spot and pay top dollar for...that's called good business!!! buy a player for £2-5 mill and end up selling them for 5 times that!! that's ALL we can aspire to or hope to achieve due to our size.even Man Utd. did it with Ronaldo because it was damn good business!!! you really are seriously deluded about how the game works matem, do you honestly, genuinely think that we could buy a Gareth Bale for £7 million then when Real come calling and offer £85 million say "Sorry but you'll have to wait 6 or 7 years until he's past his prime i'm afraid...by the way we've checked with Gareth and he's more than happy to stay here and turn down your offer as well"....what planet do you live on????? |
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Post by Menorca Stokie on Jun 5, 2013 13:20:13 GMT
peter coats of old im afraid .i remember been a nipper at the vic in the boothern end with the crowed screaming coats out every game and who remmber the coats out written on the d -road wall in big red letters i personally dont think he can afford run a prem club and is trying do it on the cheep . Are you taking the piss? |
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Post by Menorca Stokie on Jun 5, 2013 13:25:51 GMT
hughes has a bigger net of contacts then pulis so wont be hard for him to deal in the transfer market the reason coats employed him and sacked pulis under pulis coats would of had to spend spend spend he thinks hughes can find better talent for good reasonable money who could make a profit when sold i quote from peter coats in the press conference football is about buying and selling players..( in which hes wrong its about buying players getting the best out of them and selling them when they no longer can compete at a good level not when there in there prime ) jesus hates christ!!!! have you ever watched football mate????? for a club our size it IS about buying cheap, young players then selling them on when they get to their prime. it's selling them begrudgingly but it HAS to be done for a club our size..do you honestly think that any really quality player would WANT to stay at a club our size when the big names come calling and offer £20 mill for them???? the difference between good businessmen and, well...you is that businessmen realise and are fully aware of their potential and where their ceiling is and use that to their full advantage!! all coates said was that we wouldn't be buying in £10 million players who are old (therefore have little "Potential") and have no resale value; he would rather bring in a young player with bags of potential who bigger clubs spot and pay top dollar for...that's called good business!!! buy a player for £2-5 mill and end up selling them for 5 times that!! that's ALL we can aspire to or hope to achieve due to our size.even Man Utd. did it with Ronaldo because it was damn good business!!! you really are seriously deluded about how the game works matem, do you honestly, genuinely think that we could buy a Gareth Bale for £7 million then when Real come calling and offer £85 million say "Sorry but you'll have to wait 6 or 7 years until he's past his prime i'm afraid...by the way we've checked with Gareth and he's more than happy to stay here and turn down your offer as well"....what planet do you live on????? MIckmills, please don't bite, clearly no one can be this thick in posting these two pieces in this thread, banjoelvis has to be someone on a wind up! |
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Post by Davef on Jun 5, 2013 13:25:57 GMT
"Boothern End"? "Coats"?
Bore off.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 13:28:37 GMT
the game is all about money owning a club thinking what u spend will make u money because thats what hes saying is a fantasy players dont always go up in value ..no club in the history of the game has been self sufficient on just wheeling and dealing in players and never has a premiership club ever made a profite that has subsidized the following years running of the club ..but i did here theres a 13yr old garth bale playing up hanley part..and lets not forget even pulis thought that idea was a fantasy
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 13:32:23 GMT
I take it that English is not your first language. |
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Post by jonnybravo on Jun 5, 2013 13:34:42 GMT
He's right, someone like Martinez could have taken us down by trying to play like Barcelona when we don't have the players for it. Hughes is as close to the middle ground as we could get. Spot on |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 13:37:45 GMT
jesus hates christ!!!! have you ever watched football mate????? for a club our size it IS about buying cheap, young players then selling them on when they get to their prime. it's selling them begrudgingly but it HAS to be done for a club our size..do you honestly think that any really quality player would WANT to stay at a club our size when the big names come calling and offer £20 mill for them???? the difference between good businessmen and, well...you is that businessmen realise and are fully aware of their potential and where their ceiling is and use that to their full advantage!! all coates said was that we wouldn't be buying in £10 million players who are old (therefore have little "Potential") and have no resale value; he would rather bring in a young player with bags of potential who bigger clubs spot and pay top dollar for...that's called good business!!! buy a player for £2-5 mill and end up selling them for 5 times that!! that's ALL we can aspire to or hope to achieve due to our size.even Man Utd. did it with Ronaldo because it was damn good business!!! you really are seriously deluded about how the game works matem, do you honestly, genuinely think that we could buy a Gareth Bale for £7 million then when Real come calling and offer £85 million say "Sorry but you'll have to wait 6 or 7 years until he's past his prime i'm afraid...by the way we've checked with Gareth and he's more than happy to stay here and turn down your offer as well"....what planet do you live on????? MIckmills, please don't bite, clearly no one can be this thick in posting these two pieces in this thread, banjoelvis has to be someone on a wind up! yeah mate will calm down now, you're right......and relax!!  |
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Post by stokiejoe on Jun 5, 2013 13:42:30 GMT
In Peter I trust.
As said above we needed coats in the boothen end and a balaclava. Just wish people would calm down and see how we are doing in December. There is nothing else we can do.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 13:44:17 GMT
Seems an odd comment from Coates. I mean i don't really see too many people moaning anymore, in fact within a few days majority just got on with it and looked forward to a new era.
Sometimes it's best not saying anything.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 13:47:24 GMT
as long as he puts his hands in his pocket and spends the cash
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Post by mt on Jun 5, 2013 13:53:56 GMT
The words "Rational" and "Fans" are antonyms and shouldn`t be used in the same sentence...  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 13:57:37 GMT
shocking !!
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Post by Will_75 on Jun 5, 2013 14:05:51 GMT
Pulis did more during his Premiership stint than Mark Hughes has done during his time in this league No he didn't. Have you read this article Pol Potter? It might cheer you up a bit i40.tinypic.com/16qbuf.png |
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Post by droz on Jun 5, 2013 14:06:46 GMT
He's losing it. Silly old sod. To only meet one manager is wrong for a start but to employ Hughes on the grounds that he is thought to be outstanding is pretty shocking and insulting. What the f**k is so outstanding about Mark Hughes during his time as manager for any of his previous clubs. Pulis did more during his Premiership stint than Mark Hughes has done during his time in this league and he's managed far more games. I wouldn't mind if he had potential. You are a card. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 14:09:23 GMT
he was our only choice
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Post by santy on Jun 5, 2013 14:21:35 GMT
It's worth remembering that Coates was regularly telling everyone we needed to sell before we bought last season and still spent a bit in August last year. Also the year before when saying we weren't looking to spend much and were only going to do deals that made sense, before racking up £20+m of business for Crouch, Palacios & Jerome.
Coates is never going to say "Well we sat down and had a talk and realised that bet365 is making money for fun, so fuck it we're going on a massive spending spree and we really liked what QPR did with overpaying for shit so our first piece of business is to instantly double the start point for wages in negotiations"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 14:30:36 GMT
either way hes always going have put his hand in his pocket ..he didnt last transfer window and we nearly paid the price just lucky in our last 6 games we had 3 crap sides
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Post by Davef on Jun 5, 2013 14:42:02 GMT
either way hes always going have put his hand in his pocket ..he didnt last transfer window and we nearly paid the price just lucky in our last 6 games we had 3 crap sides He didn't need to, nor should he have been expected to have done either. We were on 29 points when the transfer window opened. Why on earth did he need to splash out another £15 or £20M to get another 15 or 18 points? The fact that we came perilously close to the relegation places had little to do with our January transfer business. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 14:43:14 GMT
peter coats of old im afraid .i remember been a nipper at the vic in the boothern end with the crowed screaming coats out every game and who remmber the coats out written on the d -road wall in big red letters i personally dont think he can afford run a prem club and is trying do it on the cheep . jesus hates christ ! |
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Post by DodgyDino on Jun 5, 2013 14:47:42 GMT
It's not so much that people are against Hughes and many are warming to him and will support him now he's here,it was just how Coates said they'd sacked Pulis as they wanted to go in a completely different direction and see's youth as a big part of the new direction. Although i think Hughes is an upgrade on pulis he doesn't strike me as the kind of manager Coates had in mind when he made that statement! If I remember right Coates mentioned this "New Direction" quote in the press conference and said the club never mentioned a new direction but just to tweak what we already have and to use the academy..... |
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Post by thestatusquo on Jun 5, 2013 14:59:22 GMT
Just put "rational fans" into Google images and a picture of Chick Bates comes up !!
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