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Post by stokeramblers on May 18, 2013 12:50:25 GMT
There are some touchy tarts on this thread. You should get together with KJ and form a group. The Big Girls Blouse society should cover it. Amen to that WD! ![](http://www.visualphotos.com/photo/2x6562391/a_pigs_head_on_a_butchers_counter_for_the_market_cusco_peru_1937111.jpg) ![](http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/fainting1_3759.jpg)
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Post by Jamo on the wing on May 18, 2013 12:50:53 GMT
It's enough to say that these things happen in this environment and indeed people have got away with far worse than what Whelan, Ethers and indeed KJ have done. The circumstances are irrelevant to that imo. None of them should be sacked or any of that bollocks, fine the four of them and move on. Oh absolutely mate, as I said yesterday, the worst thing to come of this so far in my opinion, is that crap from Walters' missus on twitter. I don't think any of them come out of this very well, Paul. I'm not that fussed over who has done what, to who or why but I do think its indicative of the position we find ourselves in. We're stale, too comfortable and the squad is past it's sell by date. If I could wave a magic wand, I'd fuck most of them off along with the manager and start all over again.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 18, 2013 12:51:50 GMT
Oh absolutely mate, as I said yesterday, the worst thing to come of this so far in my opinion, is that crap from Walters' missus on twitter. I'd like to throw KJ's missus in there too as I've previously said. I don't think the pair of them have covered themselves in glory and this sort of episode (the Twitter bitching) has been a long time coming. It's why I hate Twitter. It really goes against everything I believe in but if I was a football manager, I think I'd find it very hard not ban the lot of 'em off social networking sites, indeed when I was sitting down with a player I was trying to sign, I'd tell them from the off that at this club it was a no, no.
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Post by serpico on May 18, 2013 12:58:50 GMT
In the grand scheme of things this really is just trivial bullshit, why are people spending so much time getting upset about something that doesn't even effect them in any way shape or form ? "it's bad for the image of the club" so what! who ACTUALLY gives a shit about stuff like that ? it'll be forgotten about in a few days.
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Post by serpico on May 18, 2013 12:59:54 GMT
There are some touchy tarts on this thread. You should get together with KJ and form a group. The Big Girls Blouse society should cover it.
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Post by Beardy200 on May 18, 2013 13:00:16 GMT
Putting a dead animal in someone's locker isn't funny or a harmless joke in any work environment, you can't use the excuse "because they're on loads of money" either. Lets all Go in work on Monday and try the same "joke" see how many of us have a job at the end of week. I think i've already said it's not the same. You're comparing apples with pears. You aren't worth millions of pounds and they can replace you for next to nothing. Football dressing rooms are also renowned for over the top practical jokes. For argument's sake, let's say you saw the photograph and an article about how KJ laughed it off, would you be on here saying how disgusting it is and they should be sacked? I very much doubt it.
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Post by Beardy200 on May 18, 2013 13:05:15 GMT
Beardy has covered this! Football is different. Ashley Cole shot someone and kept his job. It's a completely different environment. Thing is Bayern we don't what happened do we, so none of us are in a place to judge?Let's say ... that players sat down at the awards dinner on Monday and they were all served Pork Loin and KJ pushed his plate away saying "I'm not eating this". He was then asked why not as he always ate pork before, he then tells them he's become a full-on rasta since the start of the year and he doesn't eat Pork anymore. They all think he's a bit of a moody twat anyway and this is just another example of him being self-centered. So they come up with a cracking idea to 'wind him up'. Furthermore, KJ aware that it is prank season, tells the 'lads' that he'd rather be kept out of it and if any fooker messes with him then he'll put their car windscreen through. They did, so he did. Now of course this is just an EXAMPLE of what could have happened in the lead up to yesterday, there might not be any mitigating circumstances whatsoever but we don't know what the current dynamic is like in the dressing room and I just find it very hard to judge anybody based on the little that we do know.Football being 'different' isn't really enough to base an opinion on here imho. Duly noted for future reference ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif)
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Post by blurtonboy on May 18, 2013 13:20:35 GMT
Watching Babe with the grandkids, will never be the same again.
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Post by Squeekster on May 18, 2013 13:32:04 GMT
Putting a dead animal in someone's locker isn't funny or a harmless joke in any work environment, you can't use the excuse "because they're on loads of money" either. Lets all Go in work on Monday and try the same "joke" see how many of us have a job at the end of week. I think i've already said it's not the same. You're comparing apples with pears. You aren't worth millions of pounds and they can replace you for next to nothing. Football dressing rooms are also renowned for over the top practical jokes. For argument's sake, let's say you saw the photograph and an article about how KJ laughed it off, would you be on here saying how disgusting it is and they should be sacked? I very much doubt it. Exactly! Owen's top of the range Merc(i think) was covered with eggs and flour and he tweets he is gonna miss all this when he retires. You do this to my 07 Mitsubishi and I'm not gonna be very happy at all. Like you say different world.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2013 13:43:59 GMT
The pig was put in KJ's locker and the story is fabricated to say it was an error. If anyone thinks it was done hoping KJ would open his locker, jump in the air in shock, turn around and see his 'work mates' and say "aaaaah, you guys kill me man you really do!" at which point everyone bumps chests and fists, have big Hetero bonding hugs leading the eventual closer team spirit, winning more games etc... Bollocks. It was bullying. That's how I see it as well. What did Whelan, or whoever put the head KJ's locker, really expect to happen? TBH I think a smashed windscreen was quite a mild reaction. I'd have put the culprit in hospital
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Post by stokeramblers on May 18, 2013 13:49:56 GMT
The pig was put in KJ's locker and the story is fabricated to say it was an error. If anyone thinks it was done hoping KJ would open his locker, jump in the air in shock, turn around and see his 'work mates' and say "aaaaah, you guys kill me man you really do!" at which point everyone bumps chests and fists, have big Hetero bonding hugs leading the eventual closer team spirit, winning more games etc... Bollocks. It was bullying. That's how I see it as well. What did Whelan, or whoever put the head KJ's locker, really expect to happen? TBH I think a smashed windscreen was quite a mild reaction. I'd have put the culprit in hospital You should be sectioned, you're a danger to society. You'll probably stab some hapless street magician through the neck with your keys. Nutter.
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Post by Squeekster on May 18, 2013 13:55:35 GMT
The pig was put in KJ's locker and the story is fabricated to say it was an error. If anyone thinks it was done hoping KJ would open his locker, jump in the air in shock, turn around and see his 'work mates' and say "aaaaah, you guys kill me man you really do!" at which point everyone bumps chests and fists, have big Hetero bonding hugs leading the eventual closer team spirit, winning more games etc... Bollocks. It was bullying. That's how I see it as well. What did Whelan, or whoever put the head KJ's locker, really expect to happen? TBH I think a smashed windscreen was quite a mild reaction. I'd have put the culprit in hospital I wish that was the kind of bullying i had growing up in the late 70's early 80's at a run down comprehensive school!
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Post by stantheman on May 18, 2013 13:58:21 GMT
In all seriousness, isn't Matthew Etherington from a family of butchers? I'm sure I've seen photos on here of butchers vans with the family name on it.
Get ready for the rest of the carcass to appear soon!
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Post by chr15 on May 18, 2013 14:02:15 GMT
There are some touchy tarts on this thread. You should get together with KJ and form a group. The Big Girls Blouse society should cover it. The irony! If anyone understands the concept of "Big Girl's Blouse", it's you! Didn't you fu*k off a few months ago and close your account threatening never to return? You then, if I recall correctly, went on to Twitter to complain about all the "daft cu*ts" on here.... Apologies if it was actually another "Whydelilah"!
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2013 14:10:37 GMT
I'd like to throw KJ's missus in there too as I've previously said. I don't think the pair of them have covered themselves in glory and this sort of episode (the Twitter bitching) has been a long time coming. It's why I hate Twitter. It really goes against everything I believe in but if I was a football manager, I think I'd find it very hard not ban the lot of 'em off social networking sites, indeed when I was sitting down with a player I was trying to sign, I'd tell them from the off that at this club it was a no, no. I'd do exactly the same. It's just a pain in the arse.
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Post by skip on May 18, 2013 14:31:37 GMT
Just when I thought it wasn't possible to dislike him any more. And to think his public image is one of being in control of a gang of likely lads. The man is an utter dick and a bully. How the fuck do you draw that conclusion from that quote!!! Pulis delusion syndrome at it's most severe. It isn't delusional at all. He has a reputation for managing with a rod of iron and then goes on record as saying he 'leaves them to it'? I can't think of another sport let alone another walk of life where the person in charge lets any old shit go on and says he lets his staff 'get on with it'. It's a joke.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2013 14:32:39 GMT
To be honest I do not know what to make of this pig gate episode. It certainly is a weird choice of practical joke, but I think thats what it was.Nothing malicious intended, however I or We can't prove this. One thing I am sure of though is that at this moment in time I've just about had enough of the lot of them and I can't wait for this season to end. That may seem like an over reaction to this latest snippet thats come from behind the scenes but I believe it is just another example of things that are wrong with our squad at the moment. Yes I know these things happen at other clubs but looking at the whole picture I would agree with Jamo above, we are too comfortable, too stale and in a perfect world i'd get rid of the lot of them. I certainly don't feel the affinity with this current bunch like I did with the squad a couple of seasons ago. I don't care who is too blame, its happened and is purely bad publicity for the club again.
Honestly can't wait for this season to end and I watch the summer with anticipation because changes most certainly need to be made.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2013 14:32:47 GMT
There are some touchy tarts on this thread. You should get together with KJ and form a group. The Big Girls Blouse society should cover it. The irony! If anyone understands the concept of "Big Girl's Blouse", it's you! Didn't you fu*k off a few months ago and close your account threatening never to return? You then, if I recall correctly, went on to Twitter to complain about all the "daft cu*ts" on here.... Apologies if it was actually another "Whydelilah"! Apology accepted flower. I was banned. I didn't delete. I didn't "threaten to never return" either. Don't let the facts get in the way of anything though. Good effort kid. Keep up the fine work. WD
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2013 14:45:43 GMT
How the fuck do you draw that conclusion from that quote!!! Pulis delusion syndrome at it's most severe. It isn't delusional at all. He has a reputation for managing with a rod of iron and then goes on record as saying he 'leaves them to it'? I can't think of another sport let alone another walk of life where the person in charge lets any old shit go on and says he lets his staff 'get on with it'. It's a joke. To be fair to Pulis, in this instance, reports seem to suggest that he is furious about this. I would imagine it's one of the last things he wants days before the meeting about his future. I heard the interview and he said that he didn't know what had happened but would find out (today) and deal with it. The "letting them get on with it" line purely referred to how he didn't go near the dressing room on training days so didn't witness the incident. I agree with your general sentiments about this though, skip. Perhaps the kiddies do need babysitting, and require micro management through a game of football, after all. ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/4tzqvp1fxEemag_TAXLJ.gif)
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Post by chr15 on May 18, 2013 14:47:00 GMT
The irony! If anyone understands the concept of "Big Girl's Blouse", it's you! Didn't you fu*k off a few months ago and close your account threatening never to return? You then, if I recall correctly, went on to Twitter to complain about all the "daft cu*ts" on here.... Apologies if it was actually another "Whydelilah"! Apology accepted flower. I was banned. I didn't delete. I didn't "threaten to never return" either. Don't let the facts get in the way of anything though. Good effort kid. Keep up the fine work. WD So you weren't on twitter bitching like the little woman you are? Apologies again!
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Post by Bombus on May 18, 2013 15:05:15 GMT
People's agenda against jones is well and truely alive on this thread, it's not like he had a dead animal put in his locker is it? Oh wait a minute ... ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif)
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Post by Bombus on May 18, 2013 15:18:35 GMT
Apology accepted flower. I was banned. I didn't delete. I didn't "threaten to never return" either. Don't let the facts get in the way of anything though. Good effort kid. Keep up the fine work. WD So you weren't on twitter bitching like the little woman you are? Apologies again! Calm down a bit will you? What's your problem?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2013 15:19:39 GMT
In all seriousness, isn't Matthew Etherington from a family of butchers? I'm sure I've seen photos on here of butchers vans with the family name on it. Get ready for the rest of the carcass to appear soon! Now you mention it, yes. Etherington's family are butchers from Cornwall. Whelan puts a pigs head into the locker of a butcher's son, who mistakenly puts it into KJ's. A bit of a stretch, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is the spin the club puts on the story, given what we've heard so far.
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Post by blackpoolstokie on May 18, 2013 16:02:41 GMT
Old mcdonald getting sung tomorrow??
with an oink oink here and an oink oink there! old mcdonald had a pig e i e i oh!...
;D
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Post by Batfink on May 18, 2013 16:13:22 GMT
Old mcdonald getting sung tomorrow?? with an oink oink here and an oink oink there! old mcdonald had a pig e i e i oh!... ;D Kenwyne Jones had a locker...
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 18, 2013 16:18:23 GMT
Please let Adam be involved if this ends up being the outcome. Yeah fuck it. Who needs that creative bollocks anyway? We do need creativity but not at the expense of other things, hes on a par with Whelan for me, decentish pass, 1 or 2 a games he pulls off a great pass, but he can't last a game and can't see that improving, no defensive side, can't tackle, rash in the challenge etc, we need better.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on May 18, 2013 16:34:54 GMT
Yeah fuck it. Who needs that creative bollocks anyway? We do need creativity but not at the expense of other things, hes on a par with Whelan for me, decentish pass, 1 or 2 a games he pulls off a great pass, but he can't last a game and can't see that improving, no defensive side, can't tackle, rash in the challenge etc, we need better. Well I prefer to look at it in terms of without his goals alone we'd be going into tomorrow's game level on points with Wigan. Nobody is saying he's a world beater but we look way better when he plays than when he doesn't.
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Post by buiskatthebrit on May 18, 2013 16:42:31 GMT
Must admit the sight of big Ken the deeply religious happy, smiley fella opening his locker and seeing this massive decapitated pigs head staring at him then screaming in absolute terror and havin a full blown meltdown must have been an an all time classic pisser. Must have thought Satan himself had come for him.
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Post by cartman123 on May 18, 2013 16:44:52 GMT
Where are people getting that he's a Christian from? Are we basing that on what some journalist has said with no quotes whatsoever? This is the problem with many people. They read things and believe what they are reading without ever questioning. Talk about being stupid.
FYI, he's a rastafarian, and therefore does not eat pork. I'm assuming Whelan must have known this? Couldn't have been a coincidence.
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Post by cartman123 on May 18, 2013 16:46:09 GMT
Oh, and Walters mrs should keep her mouth shut. What has this even got to do with her? Does she know her husband is punching well above his weight? Hopefully they'll both be gone for next season.
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