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Post by stokey1989 on Feb 19, 2008 10:57:49 GMT
non football related i know ....but i just thought id mention it. these people are pretty close to our city ...bham absolutly disgraceful people!!
Parviz Khan was jailed for life today for his involvement in the plot. He also boasted to friends that he was waging financial war on the West while “bleeding” a monthly total of £1,669 in benefits from the British taxpayer. It also emerged last week, in proceedings which could not be reported until today, that Khan wanted to burn the soldier’s body and parade his head on a stick.
“This is what they call you will terrorise them, they will go crazy,” he says in the recording. “They will start searching… London, Birmingham, Newcastle, where are these people?”
Khan was convicted last month of plotting to snatch a British Muslim soldier from the streets and film him being beheaded “like a pig” in a lock-up garage. Basiru Gassama, 30, of Radstock Avenue, Hodge Hill, Birmingham, pleaded guilty at a previous hearing to a failure to disclose information about the plot. He was jailed today for two years and will be deported immediately. Mohammed Irfan, 31, of Asquith Road, Ward End, Birmingham, and Hamid Elasmar, 44, of Bristol Road, Edgbaston, Birmingham, both pleaded guilty to engaging in conduct with the intention of assisting in the commission of acts of terrorism - namely helping Khan to supply the equipment
Irfan was today jailed for four years while Elasmar was jailed for three years and four months. Zahoor Iqbal, 30, of Elmbridge Road, Perry Barr, Birmingham, was found guilty by the jury at Leicester of the same charge. He was today jailed for seven years.
time for change?????? .........views???
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Post by tazi on Feb 19, 2008 11:13:08 GMT
Fuck e'm off to the remotest island going with a tickin timebomb up their fuckin arses.
Fuckin scumbags.
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Post by PONTAFCE on Feb 19, 2008 11:14:10 GMT
Dirty fuckin scumbags they all want puttin on a lead and kicked fuck out of before you go work.
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Post by salopstick on Feb 19, 2008 11:58:47 GMT
that c*** is recieving more in benefits than the takehome pay of the average british serviceman
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Feb 19, 2008 12:00:43 GMT
The cunt WAS recieving more in benfits.
Now he's on a good stretch and on his way home afterwards.
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Post by stokey1989 on Feb 19, 2008 12:02:25 GMT
exactly ....... isnt this country just fkd up??? but whats the answer ??? shouldnt planning to behead a squaddie be capital punishment?? not life (14 years) imprisonment??? also with this happening in bham ...how long before this comes to light in and around stoke on trent???
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Post by Cabby_Shunt on Feb 19, 2008 12:03:31 GMT
We've already had terrorists in Stoke on Trent.
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Post by stokey1989 on Feb 19, 2008 12:15:47 GMT
He was also recorded asking his son Abrar: "Who do you love?" The child answered: "Sheik Osama Bin Laden. Sheik Abu Hamza" - a reference to the jailed hook-handed Finsbury Park Mosque cleric.
Khan - who was paid £20,000 a year in benefits - also boasted of making non-Muslims "bleed financially" and said Muslims had a duty to "take from the Kuffar" (non-believers).
Khan and three other members of his Birmingham-based cell pleaded guilty ahead of their trial last month.
But full details of his fanaticism could not be reported until the trial of two other alleged members of the group concluded yesterday.
One of those - British-born school attendance monitor Zahoor Iqbal - was Khan's right-hand-man. He grew up in the same street as the family home of Lance Corporal Jabron Hashmi, 24, the first British Muslim soldier to be killed on active duty in the war on terror.
The cell also included Moroccan Hamid Elasmar, 44, who married an English legal secretary in the early Nineties and then secretly showed sickening videos of the 9/11 atrocity to their children when they split.
Khan wanted Basiru Gassama, a Gambian national, to find a Muslim soldier who would then be lured to his death with cocaine during a night out in central Birmingham.
He would be driven to a lock-up garage and beheaded. Footage of the "ghastly" atrocity would be released to Arab TV station Al Jazeera, making "young (Tony) Blair go crazy", Khan told Gassama.
The court heard Khan's terror cell was primarily committed to supplying equipment to Mujahideen insurgents fighting UK forces on the Afghan border with Pakistan.
Under cover of earthquake relief and aid, the gang sent £20,000 in cash and equipment such as laser range-finders, clothing and, ironically, anti-bugging devices to their terror bosses in Pakistan.
But Khan craved a physical role in the killing himself and so hatched the soldier plot.
He was recorded by a listening device at his home as he taught his five-year-old son how to carry out a beheading, and had boasted of meeting Al Qaeda's "number three" on the Afghan-Pakistani border, who had 450 locals ready to commit "martyrdom operations" - some against the UK.
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Post by Top Stopper on Feb 19, 2008 12:32:30 GMT
We've already had terrorists in Stoke on Trent. When?
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Post by robdog on Feb 19, 2008 12:47:46 GMT
sad to say but hes a small fish in a large terrorist pond.
there are more terrorist cells that dont get discovered than those that do.
id hate to think what its going to be like for my kids in 20 - 30 years time in this country
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Post by serpico on Feb 19, 2008 12:57:17 GMT
sad to say but hes a small fish in a large terrorist pond. there are more terrorist cells that dont get discovered than those that do. id hate to think what its going to be like for my kids in 20 - 30 years time in this country Al Qeada is around 5k strong worldwide, there not about to invade and convert us all to Islam anytime soon (in fact thats not even there goal), but you're right it will only get worse unless we change our foreign policy, which is the main motivating factor for these terror organizations.
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Post by TheDee51 on Feb 19, 2008 12:58:49 GMT
we should change the foreign policy to say 'NO FUCKING FOREIGNERS'
End of.
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Post by SegaMegaDave on Feb 19, 2008 12:59:23 GMT
sad to say but hes a small fish in a large terrorist pond. there are more terrorist cells that dont get discovered than those that do. id hate to think what its going to be like for my kids in 20 - 30 years time in this country Al Qeada is around 5k strong worldwide, there not about to invade and convert us all to Islam anytime soon (in fact thats not even there goal), but you're right it will only get worse unless we change our foreign policy, which is the main motivating factor for these terror organizations. what changes would you like to see serpico?
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Post by serpico on Feb 19, 2008 13:05:24 GMT
Al Qeada is around 5k strong worldwide, there not about to invade and convert us all to Islam anytime soon (in fact thats not even there goal), but you're right it will only get worse unless we change our foreign policy, which is the main motivating factor for these terror organizations. what changes would you like to see serpico? No preemptive wars on countries which have not attacked us and do not pose a threat to us, remove all our troops from Iraq and Afghanistan, stop intervening around the world, stop supporting dictators in the middle east, stop being bias towards Israel etc.
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Post by RAF on Feb 19, 2008 16:23:21 GMT
How very naive.
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Post by serpico on Feb 19, 2008 16:30:57 GMT
explain ?, Im not saying it would immediately make us safer from terrorism but our foreign policy particularly our occupation of middle eastern countries is the overwhelming motivation for suicide bombings, thats just a fact, as Ive said before, Bin Laden loves our foreign policy, he's used it as an excellent recruitment tool, also our own security services told Tony Blair before the Iraq invasion that doing so would make us more vulnerable to attack and less safe.
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Post by RAF on Feb 20, 2008 11:39:35 GMT
It wouldn't matter if we pulled out of everywhere and never said boo to a goose again. The Muslems as a whole want to take over the world by pushing their religion on to everyone, if people won't listen they will do it by force. Listen to the fanatics , that is what they are saying. You may think some of the UK's actions maybe be wrong, but not as despicable as using people with downs syndrome as suicide bombers as they are doing in Iraq. That is not the work of peaceful people.
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Post by serpico on Feb 20, 2008 12:27:11 GMT
It wouldn't matter if we pulled out of everywhere and never said boo to a goose again. The Muslems as a whole want to take over the world by pushing their religion on to everyone, if people won't listen they will do it by force. Listen to the fanatics , that is what they are saying. You may think some of the UK's actions maybe be wrong, but not as despicable as using people with downs syndrome as suicide bombers as they are doing in Iraq. That is not the work of peaceful people. H I have listened and read what Bin Laden is saying, and he says NOTHING about hating our way of life and values and forcing Islam on us, he couldn't care less about that, what they do say is that they want to drive us off muslim holy land, US bases in Saudi Arabia was one of the main reasons for the 9/11 attacks, along with other things such as the US led sanctions against Iraq in the 90's which killed and estimated 1 million people (500 thousand of which were children under the age of 5), you're listening to the wrong people, you listen to the hot heads who get there picture on the front page of the sun who go around talking about forcing us all to convert to Islam, they do not represent what Bin Laden is about. But don't listen to me, listen to the ex head of the cia Bin laden unit- video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=7232288015090458568&q=michael+scheuer&total=70&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2008 12:38:50 GMT
Serpico, do you still think Bush & co masterminded 9/11?
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Post by TheDee51 on Feb 20, 2008 12:40:26 GMT
WD - of course they did - do you think it was actually terrorists?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2008 12:42:15 GMT
dee ;D If you listen to serpico they did!!!
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Post by serpico on Feb 20, 2008 12:44:28 GMT
Serpico, do you still think Bush & co masterminded 9/11? No.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2008 12:45:11 GMT
You've woken up and smelt the coffee then?
Or are you blaming scientologists now?
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Post by serpico on Feb 20, 2008 12:46:40 GMT
Or are you blaming scientologists now? no.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2008 12:48:32 GMT
Good good.
That conspiracy jargon was quite annoying!!
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Post by soicowboy on Feb 20, 2008 12:50:23 GMT
'we should change the foreign policy to say 'NO FUCKING FOREIGNERS''
I take it your comments on 'shitty' Dubai and it's strict policies were tongue in cheek on another thread then?
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Post by serpico on Feb 20, 2008 12:51:04 GMT
Good good. That conspiracy jargon was quite annoying!! I think the most absurd and patronizing conspiracy out there is the "they attack us for our freedoms", thats a whopping conspiracy that most people have bought into, sadly.
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Post by TheDee51 on Feb 20, 2008 12:52:50 GMT
not at all Soi. If dubai's policy was 'no fucking foreigners' grooverider would be a free man. (and get rid of those wanky big pictures that take up 7 messages and are just not witty or funny and any 12 year old could do)
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Post by serpico on Feb 20, 2008 12:54:18 GMT
Team America is an great film
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2008 12:54:35 GMT
They attack us because they are fanatical lunatics who want to kill anyone who doesn’t have the same beliefs as them.
EDIT: agreed on Team America!! “A flying limousine. WOW, now I really have seen everything” “Really, have you ever seen a man eat his own head!!” ;D
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