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Post by dazza_stoke on Jan 29, 2004 16:46:10 GMT
To help settle an argument with a southerner is Stoke on Trent in the midlands or the North?
Stoke is in the midlands.
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Post by domstoke on Jan 29, 2004 17:04:22 GMT
I always find it depends who you're trying to wind up at the time...If it's a soft southern shandy then we're definitely part of the glorious North, if it's a thick norvern monkey then we're right in the heart of the midlands.  |
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Jan 29, 2004 17:11:46 GMT
No question - Stoke is in the North everytime. I regard myself as a Northerner. "Midlander" has connotations of sounding like a Brummie.  If you want to be picky say it's "North Midlands".  I'm told the official north/south divide is somewhere around Coventry - putting us well and truly in the North. Curiously, this also marks the point at which you can or can't get Chips with Gravy in this country. |
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Post by staffsstokie on Jan 29, 2004 17:27:45 GMT
ast thou nout moist?
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Post by RobPa on Jan 29, 2004 18:14:33 GMT
NORTH!
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Post by Pricey on Jan 29, 2004 18:23:52 GMT
This girl at uni insists I'm not from the north (shes from London so maybe she should buy a map and compass), but I'd rather be classed as living in the north than the midlands.
So, errr, both Daz.
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Post by Linx on Jan 29, 2004 18:44:42 GMT
Midlands. The north starts in North Cheshire as far as I'm concerned. I live near Lincoln now - it's further north than Stoke but still regarded as East Midlands.
The north starts at Warrington - the south starts at Watford.
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Post by GlennA on Jan 29, 2004 18:55:04 GMT
Manchester, despite its endless and arguably spurious claims to be the capital of the north, is exactly halfway up a map of England. Not Britain, England.
I like Manchester very much, incidentally, I'm not having a pop here, but surely if there's a capital of the (real) north, then it's Newcastle.
All this would leave SOT very much in the midlands. Personally, I don't give a shit, but the concept of a 'north' that encompasses everything from Watford to John O'Groats is very much a London thing. My old man, bless him, was a Londoner and he used to tell me how surprised he was to find trees and things in 'the north' having assumed it was all dark satanic mills.
I would say, in terms of spirit and character, Stoke is very much a northern town: i.e. it's post-industrial, dirty, and has outlived its original purpose, but the people are pretty sound. Apart from the stinking BNP cretins of course.
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Post by wigginbird on Jan 29, 2004 20:01:17 GMT
To wind Dave up, I ALWAYS say Stoke is in the Midlands ;D
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Post by dexter on Jan 29, 2004 20:27:31 GMT
Not really a right or wrong answer to this one is there? I tend to agree with Glenn when he refers to the spirit and character. I've spent a fair bit of time in both Manchester / NW and the "Wist Miglunds", and I always found more in common with our Northern Monkey friends . They're a dour bunch down in the Brum area; Anyone who thinks that Stokies moan a lot should try working for a day in Dudlaay! As far as geography is concerned, I don't think I've ever heard two people agree on the latitude of the "North-South" divide, but my Grandad, who was a driver for WHSmith, reckoned that the northern editions of the newspapers were distributed north of Stafford, and the southern editions in South Staffs (That was a long time ago though). Weren't we nearly always in the Northern half of the Autoglass Trophy too? ;D It's a close thing, but I'm a Northerner. |
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Post by ChrisEvans on Jan 29, 2004 20:32:40 GMT
Well, I'm from Dudlaaaaaay.....and I'm not say anything! Just going to sit in the corner and sulk following that last statement!  |
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Post by dexter on Jan 29, 2004 20:42:26 GMT
How do you put up with it? ??? Earned my respect anyway. ;D No offence, mate. I'm sure there are some lovely people in Dudley. It's just that I never met any of them! |
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Post by johnnymarr on Jan 30, 2004 11:36:53 GMT
Ive always been called a Northerner by people from below and above Stoke in the country-its true we are supposed to have alot in common with the big northern cities anyway. Supposedly we sound like scousers crossed with Mancs anyway???? compared to the rest of the midlands who sound like Brummies
Ill say North
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Post by homerj on Jan 30, 2004 12:57:22 GMT
North-West imo
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Post by smeegsSCFC on Jan 30, 2004 13:12:02 GMT
Im Northen....
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Post by abharsair on Jan 30, 2004 13:12:23 GMT
South North |
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Post by crowey on Jan 31, 2004 13:46:21 GMT
I was always taught that the north started at Crwho? but I think that's wrong, I think it's nearer Cannock
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Post by Hooky on Feb 1, 2004 12:31:41 GMT
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Post by ucheterstokie on Feb 1, 2004 13:16:13 GMT
Definitley the North , you don't have accents and slang like we have and call us Midlanders ,for me Brum is North Midlands ,so once you past it your entering the North.
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Post by BigDick on Feb 1, 2004 19:17:31 GMT
When I Lived in Stone (well Yarnfield) our Sunday paper was always a London edition, no match reports of the Potters  Now I live in Leicester but tune my telly to Birmingham so that we get at least a little bit of Stoke info. People I work with reckon Stoke is in the 'North' but it is no further north than say, Nottingham, the heart of the East Midlands. Apparently Granada (used) feature Stoke quite a bit so perhaps they feel it is more north than midlands ??? Who cares, it's home  |
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Post by Admin on Feb 2, 2004 14:40:55 GMT
Looks like I'm gonna buck the trend here, but I most definitely consider myself to be a Midlander!
Our City is part of the old Saxon Kingdom of Mercia and our unique accent and many of the words we take for granted as being local slang date back to those times!
Midlander all the way!
Smudge
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Post by GlennA on Feb 2, 2004 14:51:56 GMT
Midlander...there can only be one I dare say you're right Smudge. Geographically there's no doubt about it. An interesting aside on the dialect question, however, is that a large number of workers from Liverpool came to man the pottery factories as they expanded at the turn of the 18th/19th centuries, and that supposedly had quite an impact on the Potteries dialect. But obviously this would be mingled with much older influences (just as the 'scouse' accent is itself a hybrid of the North Wales and Irish accents.) |
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Post by Pricey on Feb 2, 2004 16:03:24 GMT
Fascinating you two, anything else to share with the class? ;D
Anyway, whats happened with this, has Daz lost some money or what?!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2004 16:24:17 GMT
Being right on the North Staffordshire / Cheshire border (before Digital channels) we used to pick Central up in one room and Granada in the other  |
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Feb 2, 2004 16:51:41 GMT
GC - wherabouts on "the border" are you?
My parent's place in Biddulph (where I wuz brung up) on teh way towards Congleton got Granada - but my Uncle in Knypersley got Central.
And Big D' - Granda still feature Stoke in their goal round-ups (as well as The Fail). Don't know how many people in the Pott's can get Granada, but I was sure glad they started to - I'd have never seen any Stoke games on TV if it was Central only!
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Post by Ejay on Feb 2, 2004 18:24:13 GMT
Sorry! I know the link below has nowt to do with the North / Midlands discussion but I found it interesting after what Smudge said!!! Who'd have thought we live in what used to be a "HUGE" swamp  No wonder we were voted the worst place to live!! Ejay www.caer.connectfree.co.uk/stokehist.html |
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Post by RAF on Feb 2, 2004 19:09:56 GMT
I don't give a Tinkers Toss what anyone else thinks I'm from the North West, I'm fucked if I'm a Midlander!! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2004 19:35:06 GMT
GC - wherabouts on "the border" are you? My parent's place in Biddulph (where I wuz brung up) on teh way towards Congleton got Granada - but my Uncle in Knypersley got Central. And Big D' - Granda still feature Stoke in their goal round-ups (as well as The Fail). Don't know how many people in the Pott's can get Granada, but I was sure glad they started to - I'd have never seen any Stoke games on TV if it was Central only! Nick, Knypersley / Brownlees way... Parts of Brownlees Road, Lynside Road, Lanchester Close all seems to pick up Granada too even though it's further towards Stoke than on the north side of Biddulph and Gillow Heath / Congleton. My mate lived up by the old swimming baths (now the Leisure Centre) and he can only get Granada. ??? |
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Post by dazza_stoke on Feb 2, 2004 19:57:03 GMT
Im surprised there is such a mixed opinion.
Im convinced Stoke is in the midlands, so i wont be showing him this thread yet.
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Post by slangking on Feb 2, 2004 20:00:12 GMT
North West? Stoke is in the midlands. I find it amazing the sad fucks who come out of the woodwork to vent their anti-Birmingham prejudice whenever this topic comes up, like as if anyone from Birmingham gives a toss about Stoke.
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