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Post by kevkj on Mar 30, 2011 10:45:06 GMT
I cant believe the loophole between the two systems has not been closed.
Ive seen the threats from the club but i bet loads have done it.
Havent heard of anyone being in any sort of trouble for it.
Sorry state of affairs in a otherwise good ticket selling process.
STOKE CITY either get the loophole stopped or do something those abusing it.
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Post by KyleLightbulb on Mar 30, 2011 10:47:01 GMT
They'll just cancel the tickets. You have to scan the barcode to enter Wembley, not just hand over a stub like we do. They'll cancel the ticket number and reprint more.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2011 10:50:29 GMT
I cant believe the loophole between the two systems has not been closed. Ive seen the threats from the club but i bet loads have done it. Havent heard of anyone being in any sort of trouble for it. Sorry state of affairs in a otherwise good ticket selling process. STOKE CITY either get the loophole stopped or do something those abusing it. Blame the ones abusing it. |
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Post by thebet365 on Mar 30, 2011 10:53:41 GMT
Why does this society always blame it on the preventors and not the perpetrators ???
Obviously there's been a problem with the 2 sellers not being able to cross reference.
The only simple solution if they cant fix that right now is to stop selling online. How many people would that bring on here complaining then ?
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Mar 30, 2011 10:55:30 GMT
The fact that the SeeTickets database is incomplete should have set alarms ringing. Data integrity is vital in this sort of exercise, but if some Client records are missing it makes it very difficult to maintain.
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Post by kevkj on Mar 30, 2011 10:56:03 GMT
kyle
No they wont its probably the clubs responsibility for letting it happen with no comebacks.
i wouldnt imagine they are even checking just put a note out to try and stop people and put them off.
Thats not good enough,anyone caught should have their tickets cancelled NOW.
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Post by jen on Mar 30, 2011 11:00:23 GMT
kyle No they wont its probably the clubs responsibility for letting it happen with no comebacks. i wouldnt imagine they are even checking just put a note out to try and stop people and put them off. Thats not good enough,anyone caught should have their tickets cancelled NOW. The club have made it clear that sanctions will be taken against those who have booked more than one ticket per ST. There will be an audit after the sales are complete which will identify those that have done this. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 30, 2011 11:03:18 GMT
Still, after the audit has been done and the offending tickets cancelled, there should be some extra tickets available for general sale - which is nice! Every cloud has a silver lining for someone.  |
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Post by bossthemidfield on Mar 30, 2011 11:04:00 GMT
Sorry to sound a bit thick but .... what loophole?
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Post by KyleLightbulb on Mar 30, 2011 11:04:49 GMT
kyle No they wont its probably the clubs responsibility for letting it happen with no comebacks. i wouldnt imagine they are even checking just put a note out to try and stop people and put them off. Yeah, that's definitely right but please, don't let something as trivial as facts get in the way of a good moan! Thats not good enough,anyone caught should have their tickets cancelled NOW. Alot of people have booked multiple tickets on single reference numbers because some people do actually have the same reference number! The club need to full investigate who has actually conned the system and who bought tickets legitimately but with one reference number across multiple tickets, then I imagine people who did cheat the system will suffer the consequences. |
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Post by sihanouk on Mar 30, 2011 11:07:05 GMT
kyle No they wont its probably the clubs responsibility for letting it happen with no comebacks. i wouldnt imagine they are even checking just put a note out to try and stop people and put them off. Yeah, that's definitely right Thats not good enough,anyone caught should have their tickets cancelled NOW. Alot of people have booked multiple tickets on single reference numbers because some people do actually have the same reference number! The club need to full investigate who has actually conned the system and who bought tickets legitimately but with one reference number across multiple tickets, then I imagine people who did cheat the system will suffer the consequences. I have five tickets on one ref number but was unable to buy them on-line at more than one at a time so went to the ground instead to get them in person. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 30, 2011 11:09:25 GMT
The fact that tickets bought by phone and online will have had to be sent to a named address will help "prove" abuse in some cases I should think.
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Post by Inverness Stokie on Mar 30, 2011 11:10:30 GMT
Sorry to sound a bit thick but .... what loophole? If you buy tickets from the ticket office, you can then use the same membership number to buy tickets on seetickets.com, that is the loophole although i'm not sure it is a loophole, it'll be on the system if you've bought more than allowed so you will be punished. |
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Post by kevkj on Mar 30, 2011 11:14:37 GMT
Where does it state there will be a audit ?
To late then for those without a ticket Lakeland.
Bet you a pound to a penny nothing happens.
Its the clubs responsibility not the buyers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2011 11:15:55 GMT
Bet the club will ignore it and hope it goes away.
Can only see it kicking off if the ticket sales don't reach General Sale due to fuck ups (which I can't see happening - even Stoke can't get it that wrong!!)
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 30, 2011 11:16:53 GMT
Where does it state there will be a audit ? To late then for those without a ticket Lakeland. Bet you a pound to a penny nothing happens. Its the clubs responsibility not the buyers. It says there will be an audit on the official site. Of course it won't be too late for those without a ticket. I would imagine they will do an audit once the Season Ticket sale period ends - in fact they have probably started an audit already. |
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Post by jen on Mar 30, 2011 11:17:33 GMT
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Post by kevkj on Mar 30, 2011 11:17:49 GMT
They knew from Monday this was happening,done nothing.
The silver thing was a balls up but this latest scam is discraceful.
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Post by bossthemidfield on Mar 30, 2011 11:21:04 GMT
Sorry to sound a bit thick but .... what loophole? If you buy tickets from the ticket office, you can then use the same membership number to buy tickets on seetickets.com, that is the loophole although i'm not sure it is a loophole, it'll be on the system if you've bought more than allowed so you will be punished. Thanks for that. OBVIOUSLY the club will have a record of how many tickets are sold to each ST number so... if anyone has done this then be prepared to have all tickets relating to these ST numbers VOID I would say. |
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Post by KyleLightbulb on Mar 30, 2011 11:27:55 GMT
They knew from Monday this was happening,done nothing. The silver thing was a balls up but this latest scam is discraceful. The club have promised a full and proper look into the tickets bought to root out those that abused the loophole caused by the club outsourcing the online sales to a company that could actually handle the traffic rather than letting the club servers crash (which would of course have led to people on here moaning about how the club was ill prepared and how they were dreadful etc. etc. etc.) The problem with doing this of course is that whilst they can ensure that they don't double sell any seats by selling separate blocks of tickets online and at the club they don't have a full sharing of the clubs database. However, once the sale period has finished they will rightly strip those who abused the system of AT LEAST their second tickets and possibly ban them from the game, and the final. Also, what's a disc race? |
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Post by Sir Glen Whelan on Mar 30, 2011 11:30:11 GMT
Cancel all tickets to reference numbers with more than 1 ticket!
And do it sharpish!
& rightly so wankers.
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Post by LH_SCFC on Mar 30, 2011 11:35:17 GMT
I could walk into my local shop and walk out with a chocolate bar in my pocket without paying for it. Should the shop be sanctioned for allowing me to do it?
Mens Rea + Actus Reus = a crime - the whole of the criminal law is built on this principle.
The two systems could feasibly be linked up in real time (i.e. the ticket office and seetickets), which would be a nice situation for all concerned and would prevent this "loophole". The fact of the matter is that they aren't and to do so would cost a lot - the cost would be passed onto the customers purchasing the tickets. There's already a booking fee as always with such sites, but this would just increase for the above to be implemented for what it a short term service.
So if you're thinking of doing it, don't. If you've done it, you'll get your punishment.
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Post by AlanHansen on Mar 30, 2011 11:43:22 GMT
They won't cancel tickets already issued, that may lead to trouble at the turnstiles.
The club should have done something to close the loophole, but haven't. No surprise there, Premiership on the pitch, Vauxhall Conference off it.
Tickets have been collected at the ground so are gone effectively, tickets online or by phone can in theory at least be cancelled, by that I mean by not posting them out.
When purchasing by any route people should be asked/warned about this double dipping.
If spotted soon enough the club could ring the people doing it and ask them to return tickets. If they don't then ban them.
One option would be an amnesty, where tickets could be returned, or face the consequences.
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Mar 30, 2011 11:48:05 GMT
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Post by gemmajackandy on Mar 30, 2011 11:54:49 GMT
I called the club about this last night, and they have got someone checking the duplications, apparently after the tickets have all gone they will merge the seetickets and the scfc direct sales together. This will then throw up all of those who brought 2 tickets. Anyone who has more than one season tickets under the same client ref (i.e companies) have not been able to buy online anyway so the duplication will only be ST holders buying their tickets twice.
When you buy tickets off the see tickets website the terms and conditions at the bottom that you agree to are that you are not abusing the ticket system and if found to do so they will take action. Why anyone would risk losing their wembley tickets, or 11/12 season tickets is beyond me, after all they are only buying tickets for non ST holders, and their won't be many left for the rest of the ST holders who actually GO every game
People should be shot
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Post by Abdoulaye on Mar 30, 2011 13:51:25 GMT
People need to realise that they will not ban people from buying future tickets & season tickets, why would the club turn away revenue? I also very much doubt that the club will be able to cancel any Wembley tickets issued, if the investigation takes place once all tickets are sold then I doubt there will be the time to do this. Bear in mind the tickets have all been pre-printed & sent out by the FA/Wembley. There is always a way round these sort of restrictions when buying online, fair play for people having the initiative to try in my opinion. The Warnings currently being put out by the club are to prevent further instances happening, you will notice in the wordings that the threats are all 'possible' or 'could be' action taken.....If the tickets make general sale, which I still believe they will, there will not be a problem. People need to stop panicking. There is always a way to get tickets!! All this 'people should be shot' What a load of Sh*t!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2011 13:58:45 GMT
People need to realise that they will not ban people from buying future tickets & season tickets, why would the club turn away revenue? I also very much doubt that the club will be able to cancel any Wembley tickets issued, if the investigation takes place once all tickets are sold then I doubt there will be the time to do this. Bear in mind the tickets have all been pre-printed & sent out by the FA/Wembley. There is always a way round these sort of restrictions when buying online, fair play for people having the initiative to try in my opinion. The Warnings currently being put out by the club are to prevent further instances happening, you will notice in the wordings that the threats are all 'possible' or 'could be' action taken.....If the tickets make general sale, which I still believe they will, there will not be a problem. People need to stop panicking. There is always a way to get tickets!! All this 'people should be shot' What a load of Sh*t!! Typical BC. |
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Post by Abdoulaye on Mar 30, 2011 14:03:07 GMT
Haha, i'm like Benitez, I only deal in 'Facts'
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Post by wrighter on Mar 30, 2011 14:10:02 GMT
getting totally brassed off with this. seriously thinking about sitting at home and watch on the telly. cant buy mine till Monday [foundation] but guess there will be bugger all left by then. greedy bastards, f*ck you, ive got mine w*nkers  |
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Post by Abdoulaye on Mar 30, 2011 14:44:34 GMT
Like I said pal, don't panic. Stop shitt*ng your pants! If people can't get a ticket for this there is a serious issue, There is no reason for them not to make general sale.
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